[OT] [useless thread] Re: ORBS, and RFC-ignorant blacklists

2001-06-05 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 01:29:59PM +0200, Piotr Kasztelowicz wrote:
 On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Peter van Dijk wrote:
 Now it is not possible, because the ORBS is closed
 The host is sun.lodz.ptkardio.pl [212.51.193.152]
 
  relays that stay open that long probably will never get fixed.
 
 Since September 2000 relay open has been fixed by me on
 Dane Bernstein software - qmail, tcpserver. A. Brown will
 not remove me from list. This is clear, that ORBS uses
 others, that objectives criteria.

You have shown us no proof. That you are unable to for external
reasons is too bad, but I suggest that you do not claim the above
until you can show us proof.

 NZ Court, as we have heard don't let him do to.
 I'm the Vicepresident of Polish Medical Internet Society
 and this same work at security and quality of Polish medical
 servers. I work as consultant. My statement

So people *pay* you to do silly things like block all of .nl?

[snip]
  The ORBS tester does not have a reverse that ends in .nl.
 
 Dec  4 23:39:09 sun smtp: tcpserver: deny 29386 :212.51.193.152:25
 relaytest.orbs.vuurwerk.nl:194.178.232.55::2991
 
 As you can see netblock is effective.

It indeed effectively blocks .nl hosts. The orbs-tester, however, is
not an .nl host. It was back in december, as you clearly demonstrate,
but it isn't now.

Greetz, Peter.



Re: [OT] [useless thread] Re: ORBS, and RFC-ignorant blacklists

2001-06-05 Thread Piotr Kasztelowicz

On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Peter van Dijk wrote:

 You have shown us no proof. That you are unable to for external
 reasons is too bad, but I suggest that you do not claim the above
 until you can show us proof.

I don't believe you. Why I should believe you, when A. Brown
has presented arrogant behavior to me?

 So people *pay* you to do silly things like block all of .nl?

Post from .nl can be received thus secondaries MX - this works,
test no.

 It indeed effectively blocks .nl hosts. The orbs-tester, however, is
 not an .nl host. It was back in december, as you clearly demonstrate,
 but it isn't now.

If I have it find - I make block and send protest to Netherlands Embassy
in Warsaw. I will say you again, the all activities, which you will
perform on my server on port 25, which are not provided to send a post
to any user on them is inappropriate using of this port and will be
not permitted be me as server administrator. This depends all
like ORBS systems, whose owners are participants of this list

Piotr
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Piotr Kasztelowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[http://www.am.torun.pl/~pekasz]




Re: [OT] [useless thread] Re: ORBS, and RFC-ignorant blacklists

2001-06-05 Thread Adam McKenna

Can you guys please stop feeding this troll?

--Adam




Re: [OT] [useless thread] Re: ORBS, and RFC-ignorant blacklists

2001-06-05 Thread Greg White

On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 05:10:32PM +0200, Piotr Kasztelowicz wrote:
 On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Peter van Dijk wrote:
 
  You have shown us no proof. That you are unable to for external
  reasons is too bad, but I suggest that you do not claim the above
  until you can show us proof.
 
 I don't believe you. Why I should believe you, when A. Brown
 has presented arrogant behavior to me?

Please, please, everyone, let's not let this guy waste another week of
the list members' time and energy! Doesn't anyone remember what happened
when people tried rational arguments on this guy last time? AFAICT, he's
simply a troll -- ignore him...


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Greg White
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