Re: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch

2001-07-11 Thread Adam McKenna

On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 08:27:22PM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
 Please don't suggest post-filtering instead. I want control
 at the SMTP level.
 Otherwise I may have a hard time trying to return an error
 message, and maybe the sender is unreachable or an innocent
 fake. I would never silently drop an email, at least not
 without having looked at it first, and I don't have time
 for that.

Why do you need to return an error message?  Just drop the mail into the bit
bucket.

--Adam



Re: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch

2001-07-11 Thread Henning Brauer

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:43:16AM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
 - Please don't suggest post-filtering-

Happy coding.

You are refusing the obvious, elegant and working solution. If you don't
want our advice, don't ask.

And don't whine here if your hacked qmail-smtpd doesn't work proper.

-- 
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Re: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch

2001-07-11 Thread torben fjerdingstad

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:18:53PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:43:16AM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
  - Please don't suggest post-filtering-
 
 Happy coding.
 
 You are refusing the obvious, elegant and working solution. If you don't
 want our advice, don't ask.

I did not ask for advise. I asked for a qmail-smtpd patch.

Me:  I want to do A.
You: Don't that, do B instead.

 And don't whine here if your hacked qmail-smtpd doesn't work proper.

At least allow me to get my patch reviewed for sanity, if I
have to hack it myself. Programming is not what I do.

Damn! This patch is all I need to get sendmail killed for good
on the last two mail relays.
Sendmail has that spamlovers feature, and a few people rely on it.
(sendmail read a file called spamfriend, which contains a list of
yes-I-want-my-mail-even-if-it-comes-from-a-blacklisted-IP
reciepients

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Re: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch

2001-07-11 Thread Adam McKenna

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:38:29PM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:18:53PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote:
  On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:43:16AM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
   - Please don't suggest post-filtering-
  
  Happy coding.
  
  You are refusing the obvious, elegant and working solution. If you don't
  want our advice, don't ask.
 
 I did not ask for advise. I asked for a qmail-smtpd patch.

So, go write one, or pay someone to do it for you.

--Adam



Re: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch

2001-07-11 Thread James Stevens

Pushy little prick isn't he???

Best Advice we can give you.. Learn C code and go write your own because you
are obviously not going to listen to us. Ofcourse then again if ya got money
then hey I'm all ears what ya want and how much cash ya got? Otherwise see
ya in cyberspace.

--JT

P.S. Anyone seen a guy who goes by 'Danoo' on this list???

--JT
- Original Message -
From: Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch


On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:38:29PM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:18:53PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote:
  On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:43:16AM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
   - Please don't suggest post-filtering-
 
  Happy coding.
 
  You are refusing the obvious, elegant and working solution. If you don't
  want our advice, don't ask.

 I did not ask for advise. I asked for a qmail-smtpd patch.

So, go write one, or pay someone to do it for you.

--Adam





Begging for a control/spamlovers patch

2001-07-10 Thread torben fjerdingstad

I want to convert one more sendmail MX to qmail with rblsmtpd.

But there is a show stopper: A handful of users demand to
receive all email, even when it comes from blacklisted IPs.
   
Well, qmail-smtpd read control/badmailfrom, so I suppose
it will be easy to modify it so it to also read a new file,
control/spamlovers, which contains a list of reciepient
adresses that want the mail, even when it comes from
a blacklisted IP.

As I am not a programmer, don't want to screw up qmail-smtpd,
and don't fully understand qmail-smtpd.c, I ask for help.

That patch would also make a nice addition to chapter VII
in Chris Hardies qmail Anti-spam HOWTO.

Please don't suggest post-filtering instead. I want control
at the SMTP level.
Otherwise I may have a hard time trying to return an error
message, and maybe the sender is unreachable or an innocent
fake. I would never silently drop an email, at least not
without having looked at it first, and I don't have time
for that.

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Netdriftgruppen / Network Management Group
UNI-C  

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RE: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch

2001-07-10 Thread Chris Bolt

Perhaps you could use http://www.qmail.org/qqrbl

Then users who don't want spam can filter based on the X-RBL: header.

 I want to convert one more sendmail MX to qmail with rblsmtpd.
 
 But there is a show stopper: A handful of users demand to
 receive all email, even when it comes from blacklisted IPs.




Re: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch

2001-07-10 Thread torben fjerdingstad


On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:47:00PM -0600, Chris Bolt wrote:
 Perhaps you could use http://www.qmail.org/qqrbl
 
 Then users who don't want spam can filter based on the X-RBL: header.

In my first letter I wrote:
- Please don't suggest post-filtering-
I also explained why.

  I want to convert one more sendmail MX to qmail with rblsmtpd.
  
  But there is a show stopper: A handful of users demand to
  receive all email, even when it comes from blacklisted IPs.

-- 
Med venlig hilsen / Regards 
Netdriftgruppen / Network Management Group
UNI-C  

Tlf./Phone   +45 35 87 89 41Mail:  UNI-C
Fax. +45 35 87 89 90   Bygning 304
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   DK-2800 Lyngby