Disconnected Qmail??? 3rd Try!
Hello All! This is the third time I've posted, without response. Either it's not getting out, or no one knows the answer, or I should be reading a FAQ somewhere. Can anyone please point me to the right FAQ? Message Follows: I've got a mail server on a private network (192.168.x.x) which I want to periodically pick up mail from my server that's co-located elsewhere. Both servers are running qmail. The public server has MX records for my domain, pointing to it. Mail to/from there seems to be working just fine. Right now, I'm just using a pop client to pick up the mail when I'm connected, but that's not a good solution. I want the private server to periodically dialin, pick up the messages, send any that are queued (this is already working), and deliver via POP (also already working). SO, do I switch the public server from handling the mail as a standard domain to a virtual domain? How do I get the private server (which has a DYNAMIC IP address) to pickup the mail? I've looked at both fetchmail and serialmail. I think I understand how to do this with fetchmail, but I cannot make heads or tails of the serialmail "docs". I would LOVE to do this via ssh tunnelling if I can. It seems that serialmail will only work if the dialin server has a static IP address (ie, there's no way to tell it to send to my dialup dynamic address?) Any advice, suggestions, etc?
Re: Disconnected Qmail??? 3rd Try!
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Scott Sharkey wrote: I've got a mail server on a private network (192.168.x.x) which I want to periodically pick up mail from my server that's co-located elsewhere. Both servers are running qmail. The public server has MX records for my domain, pointing to it. Mail to/from there seems to be working just fine. Right now, I'm just using a pop client to pick up the mail when I'm connected, but that's not a good solution. I want the private server to periodically dialin, pick up the messages, send any that are queued (this is already working), and deliver via POP (also already working). SO, do I switch the public server from handling the mail as a standard domain to a virtual domain? How do I get the private server (which has a DYNAMIC IP address) to pickup the mail? I've looked at both fetchmail and serialmail. I think I understand how to do this with fetchmail, but I cannot make heads or tails of the serialmail "docs". I would LOVE to do this via ssh tunnelling if I can. It seems that serialmail will only work if the dialin server has a static IP address (ie, there's no way to tell it to send to my dialup dynamic address?) I've done pretty much the same thing before (a while ago, so my remembered details are a bit sketchy, unfortunately). As long as you know your dynamic IP address, you can use serialmail. From the dynamicIP'd box, I run a script periodically which runs the command ssh -C -c blowfish public server maildirsmtp path to/Maildir \ domain in delivered-to- dynamic IP `hostname` Where public server is the public server's hostname/IP path to/Maildir is the path to the Maildir which has the waiting mail domain in delivered-to is the domain part in the message's headers like: delivered-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have: onbenshaw- In the domain in delivered-to- place, (and it gets chopped off, so the mail is delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the dynamic IP box --Yes, its a virtual domain on the public server (in control/virtualdomains: on.benshaw.com:onbenshaw ) The dynamic IP is the current dynamic IP of the dynIP'd box. and `hostname` is simply the hostname of the dynIP'd box. The script ssh's to the public server, and runs maildirsmtp, which goes through the Maildir where all of the received mail is, and tells the public server to push all that mail to dynamic IP via SMTP. The public server then connects to dynamic IP:SMTP and delivers the mail. The traffic isn't encrypted by ssh, because it just goes through SMTP, but its transparent to the box with the dynamic IP--its just incoming SMTP traffic to it (after it triggers the send). Hope this description helps in your setting-up of it. .Shawn
Re: Disconnected Qmail??? 3rd Try!
You're talking about batch processing of mail via dial-up. I believe your only options are fetchmail, UUCP, ETRN or serialmail. All of which will move the mail in one form or another. Look at the different features of each package and figure out which one to install. Personally I use fetchmail and serialmail. fetchmail is an increadibly convoluted piece of software. very buggy in my opinion. but once you get it set up and stop touching it it will work well. serialmail works very well. No complaits. check out ETRN and UUCP Scott Sharkey escribió: Hello All! This is the third time I've posted, without response. Either it's not getting out, or no one knows the answer, or I should be reading a FAQ somewhere. Can anyone please point me to the right FAQ? Message Follows: I've got a mail server on a private network (192.168.x.x) which I want to periodically pick up mail from my server that's co-located elsewhere. Both servers are running qmail. The public server has MX records for my domain, pointing to it. Mail to/from there seems to be working just fine. Right now, I'm just using a pop client to pick up the mail when I'm connected, but that's not a good solution. I want the private server to periodically dialin, pick up the messages, send any that are queued (this is already working), and deliver via POP (also already working). SO, do I switch the public server from handling the mail as a standard domain to a virtual domain? How do I get the private server (which has a DYNAMIC IP address) to pickup the mail? I've looked at both fetchmail and serialmail. I think I understand how to do this with fetchmail, but I cannot make heads or tails of the serialmail "docs". I would LOVE to do this via ssh tunnelling if I can. It seems that serialmail will only work if the dialin server has a static IP address (ie, there's no way to tell it to send to my dialup dynamic address?) Any advice, suggestions, etc? -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: Disconnected Qmail??? 3rd Try!
qmail doesn't support ETRN though does it ? [root@linux qmail-1.03]# grep -i etrn * [root@linux qmail-1.03]# [root@linux qmail-1.03]# telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 fashion.dynip.com ESMTP etrn my.host.com 502 unimplemented (#5.5.1) Eric Dahnke wrote: You're talking about batch processing of mail via dial-up. I believe your only options are fetchmail, UUCP, ETRN or serialmail. All of which will move the mail in one form or another. Look at the different features of each package and figure out which one to install. Personally I use fetchmail and serialmail. fetchmail is an increadibly convoluted piece of software. very buggy in my opinion. but once you get it set up and stop touching it it will work well. serialmail works very well. No complaits. check out ETRN and UUCP Scott Sharkey escribió: Hello All! This is the third time I've posted, without response. Either it's not getting out, or no one knows the answer, or I should be reading a FAQ somewhere. Can anyone please point me to the right FAQ? Message Follows: I've got a mail server on a private network (192.168.x.x) which I want to periodically pick up mail from my server that's co-located elsewhere. Both servers are running qmail. The public server has MX records for my domain, pointing to it. Mail to/from there seems to be working just fine. Right now, I'm just using a pop client to pick up the mail when I'm connected, but that's not a good solution. I want the private server to periodically dialin, pick up the messages, send any that are queued (this is already working), and deliver via POP (also already working). SO, do I switch the public server from handling the mail as a standard domain to a virtual domain? How do I get the private server (which has a DYNAMIC IP address) to pickup the mail? I've looked at both fetchmail and serialmail. I think I understand how to do this with fetchmail, but I cannot make heads or tails of the serialmail "docs". I would LOVE to do this via ssh tunnelling if I can. It seems that serialmail will only work if the dialin server has a static IP address (ie, there's no way to tell it to send to my dialup dynamic address?) Any advice, suggestions, etc? -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Spark Sistemas - presentado por IWCC Argentina S.A. Tel: 4702-1958 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: Disconnected Qmail??? 3rd Try!
On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 09:41:14AM -0400, Scott Sharkey wrote: I've got a mail server on a private network (192.168.x.x) which I want to periodically pick up mail from my server that's co-located elsewhere. Both servers are running qmail. The public server has MX records for my domain, pointing to it. Mail to/from there seems to be working just fine. Right now, I'm just using a pop client to pick up the mail when I'm connected, but that's not a good solution. I want the private server to periodically dialin, pick up the messages, send any that are queued (this is already working), and deliver via POP (also already working). Your goals aren't to deliver the messages by a specific service, are they? Using serialmail to solve your problem: 1) on connected server, set up mail for the virtualdomain to be stored in a Maildir. 2) remotely trigger maildirsmtp on the server to your dialin's dynamic IP. I can think of two ways to do this: a) do a pop-style authentication to a dedicated tcpserver instance. tcpserver can capture your dynamic IP and trigger maildirsmtp using it. b) remote call via ssh. Much more secure (no passwords in the clear), though to be honest, I can't think of a way to capture the hosts dynamic IP off the top of my head. I'm sure someone else can help you there... -- John White johnjohn at triceratops.com PGP Public Key: http://www.triceratops.com/john/public-key.pgp
Re: Disconnected Qmail??? 3rd Try!
Chris McCarthy writes: qmail doesn't support ETRN though does it ? If you install the serialmail package, and set it up to do autoturn, then yes, qmail supports ETRN. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Re: Disconnected Qmail??? 3rd Try!
On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 09:41:14AM -0400, Scott Sharkey wrote: It seems that serialmail will only work if the dialin server has a static IP address (ie, there's no way to tell it to send to my dialup dynamic address?) Hello Scott, there is a script on the qmail-page (http://qmail.mirrors.space.net/turnmail), which will do the trick "abusing" the POP-protocol. Regards Mirko
Re: Disconnected Qmail??? 3rd Try!
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: b) remote call via ssh. Much more secure (no passwords in the clear), though to be honest, I can't think of a way to capture the hosts dynamic IP off the top of my head. I'm sure someone else can help you there... On my Linux box (Mandrake 6) which uses pppd to dial in: [root@fred /root]# /sbin/ifconfig --version net-tools 1.52 ifconfig 1.39 (1999-03-18) (I believe the ifconfig output is the same across any semi-current version, but just in case, that's what I'm using) This will work: echo `/sbin/ifconfig ppp0 | grep 'inet addr:' | cut -f 2 -d : | cut -f 1 -d ' '` Or, if you're a little less masochistic (shell scripting-wise), the /etc/ppp/ip-up script has the IP address given to it as $4, so you could just stick a: echo $4 /root/current_ip in /etc/ppp/ip-up and then just do a `cat /root/current_ip` to get at it. (the parameters passed to ip_up and ip_down are documented in pppd's man page. Hope this helps, .Shawn
