Doh! does qmail still have my messages?

2001-04-19 Thread Jerry Lynde

Howdy folks,

Here's the deal

I installed vpopmail about halfway yesterday, just enough to break mail 
delivery.
vpopmail took over diligence.com as a virtual domain with no users, and 
started bouncing
messages... Does anyone know a way to get those bounced messages back here?

I've got local delivery working again, which is half a blessing, but my 
concern is the
email sent to us between the time I broke it and now.

Are they floating in a local queue somewhere? Are they sitting on the 
various sender's
mail servers waiting to come in? Are they simply gone, in which case I 
should probably email
everyone I can think of and ask them to send anything they sent from 
yesterday afternoon onward?

Advice, counseling, flames, notes in the form of "Jer, you're an idiot"
are welcome...

I hope they will just automagically find their way back here...but I have a 
suspicion that
this hope is in vain.

Jer
The Humble Sysdamin




Re: Doh! does qmail still have my messages?

2001-04-19 Thread Charles Cazabon

Jerry Lynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I installed vpopmail about halfway yesterday, just enough to break mail 
 delivery.

Oops.

 vpopmail took over diligence.com as a virtual domain with no users, and 
 started bouncing
 messages... Does anyone know a way to get those bounced messages back here?

If vpopmail (which I understand is called in the manner of qmail-command)
actually bounced them, they're gone.  The only way to get them back is phone
the people who sent them originally and get them to send it again.

 Are they floating in a local queue somewhere? Are they sitting on the
 various sender's mail servers waiting to come in?

No, they would still exist if they had been deferred, but not if they were
bounced.

 Are they simply gone, in which case I should probably email everyone I can
 think of and ask them to send anything they sent from yesterday afternoon
 onward?

Yes.

Charles
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Re: Doh! does qmail still have my messages?

2001-04-19 Thread Greg White

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:57:52AM -0600, Jerry Lynde wrote:
 Howdy folks,
 
 Here's the deal
 
 I installed vpopmail about halfway yesterday, just enough to break mail 
 delivery.
 vpopmail took over diligence.com as a virtual domain with no users, and 
 started bouncing
 messages... Does anyone know a way to get those bounced messages back here?

Nope. They bounced. The original senders are (or should be[1]) aware that
their messages did not get through, and will resend them (or call the
person they emailed, and complain, ;)  ). 
 I hope they will just automagically find their way back here...but I have a 
 suspicion that
 this hope is in vain.
[SNIP]
See above -- this hope is in vain, but perhaps not as bad as you think.
 
 Jer
 The Humble Sysdamin
 
[1] That is, if their sending SMTP server is not a broken piece of junk
that refuses bounces, or some other such silliness.
-- 
Greg White
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable.
-- John F. Kennedy



Doh! does qmail still have my messages?

2001-04-19 Thread Jerry Lynde

Howdy folks,

Here's the deal

I installed vpopmail about halfway yesterday, just enough to break mail 
delivery.
vpopmail took over diligence.com as a virtual domain with no users, and 
started bouncing
messages... Does anyone know a way to get those bounced messages back here?

I've got local delivery working again, which is half a blessing, but my 
concern is the
email sent to us between the time I broke it and now.

Are they floating in a local queue somewhere? Are they sitting on the 
various sender's
mail servers waiting to come in? Are they simply gone, in which case I 
should probably email
everyone I can think of and ask them to send anything they sent from 
yesterday afternoon onward?

Advice, counseling, flames, notes in the form of "Jer, you're an idiot"
are welcome...

I hope they will just automagically find their way back here...but I have a 
suspicion that
this hope is in vain.

Jer
The Humble Sysdamin