Hopefully my last question. :-)

1999-09-23 Thread Glenn Crownover

Almost running smooth as silk here!  Just one last thing...

What is the recommended replacement in a qmail environment (using
Maildir now!) for /bin/mail?  I have cron jobs wanting to use it (among
many other apps).

Thanks a bunch!

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Re: Hopefully my last question. :-)

1999-09-23 Thread Patrick Berry

On 9/23/99 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luis Campos de Carvalho)
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had the thought:

 On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Glenn Crownover wrote:
 
  Almost running smooth as silk here!  Just one last thing...
  
  What is the recommended replacement in a qmail environment (using
  Maildir now!) for /bin/mail?  I have cron jobs wanting to use it (among
  many other apps).
 
   I don't remember for sure what's the real utility of /bin/mail.
   
   I'm guessing that you want to send mails.
   
   The program that you must use is /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject.
   There is a nice man page about it. 
 
   Please somebody confirm this for me.
   
   Thank you a lot.

I don't think you need to replace /bin/mail.  I have a RedHat 5.2 box with
sendmail removed and /bin/mail works just fine with qmail.  Did you remove
/bin/mail yourself?  Is it not working now?

Pat




Re: Hopefully my last question. :-)

1999-09-23 Thread Glenn Crownover

I had 'chmod'ed it to 0 per "REMOVE.binmail" (in qmail/doc) step 2, as part
of the INSTALL instructions.

Then I got this message from my cron job:


23 Sep 04:02:01 ntpdate[29031]: step time server 192.6.38.127 offset 1.067004
sec
/usr/lib/news/bin/news.daily: /bin/mail: Permission denied


Patrick Berry wrote:

 On 9/23/99 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luis Campos de Carvalho)
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had the thought:

  On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Glenn Crownover wrote:
 
   Almost running smooth as silk here!  Just one last thing...
  
   What is the recommended replacement in a qmail environment (using
   Maildir now!) for /bin/mail?  I have cron jobs wanting to use it (among
   many other apps).
 
I don't remember for sure what's the real utility of /bin/mail.
 
I'm guessing that you want to send mails.
 
The program that you must use is /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject.
There is a nice man page about it.
 
Please somebody confirm this for me.
 
Thank you a lot.

 I don't think you need to replace /bin/mail.  I have a RedHat 5.2 box with
 sendmail removed and /bin/mail works just fine with qmail.  Did you remove
 /bin/mail yourself?  Is it not working now?

 Pat

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Re: Hopefully my last question. :-)

1999-09-23 Thread Patrick Berry

On 9/23/99 at 2:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glenn Crownover) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
had the thought:

 I had 'chmod'ed it to 0 per "REMOVE.binmail" (in qmail/doc) step 2, as part
 of the INSTALL instructions.
 
 Then I got this message from my cron job:
 
 
 23 Sep 04:02:01 ntpdate[29031]: step time server 192.6.38.127 offset 1.067004
 sec
 /usr/lib/news/bin/news.daily: /bin/mail: Permission denied
 

In the REMOVE.binmail file it just says to link it to a usable mailer.  I looked
at the mail and mutt man page and they seemed to be command line compliant.  I
would guess that most mailers are compliant that way.  You could just symlink
/bin/mail to /usr/bin/mutt or whatever...

Another option is to leave sendmail on the system in conjunction with qmail, but
I doubt that is really necessary.

Pat




Re: Hopefully my last question. :-) SOLVED

1999-09-23 Thread Glenn Crownover

Oh really?  So the old 'mail' works as well eh?  (Yes, I had diverted sendmail and that
was working fine).

I wonder why the Install tells you to replace mail then...?

Frederik Lindberg wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 02:49:08PM -0700, Glenn Crownover wrote:
  Oh, yes you are right.  When I originally installed qmail, I didn't know which
  mailers were "usable".  REMOVE.binmail recommended mailx, but I couldn't find it on
  my system.  I had never heard of 'mutt', but alas, here it is and it seems
  compatible (I tested it).

 I use mail all the time. It invokes sendmail, but qmail has a sendmail
 wrapper. You need to:

 ln -sf /var/qmail/bin/sendmail /usr/bin/sendmail
 ln -sf /var/qmail/bin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail

 and sometimes also:
 ln -sf /var/qmail/bin/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail

 mail will now happily work with qmail instead and:

 mail -s 'about something' someone  message

 will work.

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 -Sincerely, Fred

 Fred Lindberg, Inf. Dis., WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA

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Re: Hopefully my last question. :-) SOLVED

1999-09-23 Thread Chris Garrigues

 From:  Glenn Crownover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:13:36 -0700

 I wonder why the Install tells you to replace mail then...?

Depends on the version of Unix you're using.  Basically, he punted and told 
you to always replace it even though many people won't need to.

Chris

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Re: Hopefully my last question. :-)

1999-09-23 Thread Juan Carlos Castro y Castro

Patrick Berry wrote:

 On 9/23/99 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luis Campos de Carvalho)
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had the thought:

  On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Glenn Crownover wrote:
 
   Almost running smooth as silk here!  Just one last thing...
  
   What is the recommended replacement in a qmail environment (using
   Maildir now!) for /bin/mail?  I have cron jobs wanting to use it (among
   many other apps).
 
I don't remember for sure what's the real utility of /bin/mail.
 
I'm guessing that you want to send mails.
 
The program that you must use is /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject.
There is a nice man page about it.
 
Please somebody confirm this for me.
 
Thank you a lot.

 I don't think you need to replace /bin/mail.  I have a RedHat 5.2 box with
 sendmail removed and /bin/mail works just fine with qmail.  Did you remove
 /bin/mail yourself?  Is it not working now?

/bin/mail requires sendmail, but it works with qmail's sendmail wrapper. Maybe
that's what Glenn didn't install (or installed wrongly).


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Re: Hopefully my last question. :-)

1999-09-23 Thread Glenn Crownover

Actually I never tried to use /bin/mail with qmail because I was under the
impression that it would not work.  I didn't know that it was a 'front-end' to
sendmail.  I now have it linked to 'mutt' and that seems to be working fine.
(unless somebody knows some 'gotchya's with that setup! :-)

Thanks again all!

Juan Carlos Castro y Castro wrote:

 /bin/mail requires sendmail, but it works with qmail's sendmail wrapper. Maybe
 that's what Glenn didn't install (or installed wrongly).

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Re: Hopefully my last question. :-)

1999-09-23 Thread Mirko Zeibig

On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 03:46:50PM -0700, Glenn Crownover wrote:
 Actually I never tried to use /bin/mail with qmail because I was under the
 impression that it would not work.  I didn't know that it was a 'front-end' to
 sendmail.  I now have it linked to 'mutt' and that seems to be working fine.
 (unless somebody knows some 'gotchya's with that setup! :-)
Hello Glenn,
I use mutt all the time in my scripts. A big advantage is that you may
easily attach files with option ``-a'', very handy.

Regards
Mirko