Re: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister

2001-06-06 Thread Michael T. Babcock

How inefficient do you think PHP is?  What do you consider to be so much
faster, native code running as a CGI?  Have you benchmarked the two
programs?

- Original Message -
 Not everyone has a single box devoted to Apache with
 PHP modules.  In fact, many people run a large amount
 of time consuming processes.  Efficiency is always a
 factor, when it can be taken into account.  Web
 based products should always be concerned with efficiency.





Re: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister

2001-02-24 Thread Oden Eriksson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 vQregister is new web-based signup CGI that

Very neat!

What about to port qmailadmin to php?

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Re: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister

2001-02-24 Thread vol

Port qmailadmin to PHP? Why?

Oden Eriksson wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  vQregister is new web-based signup CGI that
 
 Very neat!
 
 What about to port qmailadmin to php?
 
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 Kindest regards // Oden Eriksson

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Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister

2001-02-23 Thread vol

vQregister is new web-based signup CGI that
more than replaces the old vQsignup program
we released early last year.  If you're running
vQsignup now, or you're considering allowing
users to signup for free accounts, it's worth
taking a look at.

We will be adding a new feature very soon
which will be used to collect demographic,
or any other information administrators might
want during the signup process.  This information
might include their cleartext password, a
challenge password (for retrieving the cleartext
password over the phone), and other demographic
information such as zip codes, cities, etc.
We intend to make this fully configurable, so
that whatever information you wish to collect,
is easy to setup.

Head over to http://www.inter7.com/vqregister to
take a look at it.

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Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc.
www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html



Re: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister

2001-02-23 Thread Dan Phoenix



Quite honestly this is a custom form that most of us code ourselves in php
to insert the info we need from users. What you really need to do is allow
us to pick our own fields...and integrate whatever html we want into it.



Regards,

Dan


On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:52:06 -0600
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister
 
 vQregister is new web-based signup CGI that
 more than replaces the old vQsignup program
 we released early last year.  If you're running
 vQsignup now, or you're considering allowing
 users to signup for free accounts, it's worth
 taking a look at.
 
 We will be adding a new feature very soon
 which will be used to collect demographic,
 or any other information administrators might
 want during the signup process.  This information
 might include their cleartext password, a
 challenge password (for retrieving the cleartext
 password over the phone), and other demographic
 information such as zip codes, cities, etc.
 We intend to make this fully configurable, so
 that whatever information you wish to collect,
 is easy to setup.
 
 Head over to http://www.inter7.com/vqregister to
 take a look at it.
 
 -- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc.
 www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
 New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html
 




Re: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister

2001-02-23 Thread vol

Maybe what I said wasn't as clear as it could
have been.  Exactly what you requested below,
is the feature we will be adding.

PHP is inefficient BTW. :)

Dan Phoenix wrote:
 
 Quite honestly this is a custom form that most of us code ourselves in php
 to insert the info we need from users. What you really need to do is allow
 us to pick our own fields...and integrate whatever html we want into it.
 
 Regards,
 
 Dan
 
 On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:52:06 -0600
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister
 
  vQregister is new web-based signup CGI that
  more than replaces the old vQsignup program
  we released early last year.  If you're running
  vQsignup now, or you're considering allowing
  users to signup for free accounts, it's worth
  taking a look at.
 
  We will be adding a new feature very soon
  which will be used to collect demographic,
  or any other information administrators might
  want during the signup process.  This information
  might include their cleartext password, a
  challenge password (for retrieving the cleartext
  password over the phone), and other demographic
  information such as zip codes, cities, etc.
  We intend to make this fully configurable, so
  that whatever information you wish to collect,
  is easy to setup.
 
  Head over to http://www.inter7.com/vqregister to
  take a look at it.
 
  --
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc.
  www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
  New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html
 

-- 
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www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html



Re: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister

2001-02-23 Thread Mark Delany

On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 11:30:53AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Maybe what I said wasn't as clear as it could
 have been.  Exactly what you requested below,
 is the feature we will be adding.
 
 PHP is inefficient BTW. :)

Totally OT, but one user registration per second adds up to 86,400 new
users per day.

Can a small web server running PHP handle one registration per second?
Answer: yes.  Does hotmail.com do more than 86K registrations per day?
Answer: no.

Conclusion: One small webserver running PHP can handle all the
registrations for arguable the largest webmail service on the planet.

Efficiency is not always the most relevant selection criteria.


Regards.

 
 Dan Phoenix wrote:
  
  Quite honestly this is a custom form that most of us code ourselves in php
  to insert the info we need from users. What you really need to do is allow
  us to pick our own fields...and integrate whatever html we want into it.
  
  Regards,
  
  Dan
  
  On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:52:06 -0600
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister
  
   vQregister is new web-based signup CGI that
   more than replaces the old vQsignup program
   we released early last year.  If you're running
   vQsignup now, or you're considering allowing
   users to signup for free accounts, it's worth
   taking a look at.
  
   We will be adding a new feature very soon
   which will be used to collect demographic,
   or any other information administrators might
   want during the signup process.  This information
   might include their cleartext password, a
   challenge password (for retrieving the cleartext
   password over the phone), and other demographic
   information such as zip codes, cities, etc.
   We intend to make this fully configurable, so
   that whatever information you wish to collect,
   is easy to setup.
  
   Head over to http://www.inter7.com/vqregister to
   take a look at it.
  
   --
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc.
   www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
   New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html
  
 
 -- 
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 Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc.
 www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
 New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html



Re: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister

2001-02-23 Thread Dan Phoenix


inefficent?
alot of speed and very easy to code.
Take me 10 lines of c code for one line in php.
+ it is built in apache as a module so it runs faster.

Of course c is faster and for any kind of real software it should be used.
But for a websitephp is generally the choice.


On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:30:53 -0600
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Dan Phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister
 
 Maybe what I said wasn't as clear as it could
 have been.  Exactly what you requested below,
 is the feature we will be adding.
 
 PHP is inefficient BTW. :)
 
 Dan Phoenix wrote:
  
  Quite honestly this is a custom form that most of us code ourselves in php
  to insert the info we need from users. What you really need to do is allow
  us to pick our own fields...and integrate whatever html we want into it.
  
  Regards,
  
  Dan
  
  On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:52:06 -0600
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister
  
   vQregister is new web-based signup CGI that
   more than replaces the old vQsignup program
   we released early last year.  If you're running
   vQsignup now, or you're considering allowing
   users to signup for free accounts, it's worth
   taking a look at.
  
   We will be adding a new feature very soon
   which will be used to collect demographic,
   or any other information administrators might
   want during the signup process.  This information
   might include their cleartext password, a
   challenge password (for retrieving the cleartext
   password over the phone), and other demographic
   information such as zip codes, cities, etc.
   We intend to make this fully configurable, so
   that whatever information you wish to collect,
   is easy to setup.
  
   Head over to http://www.inter7.com/vqregister to
   take a look at it.
  
   --
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc.
   www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
   New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html
  
 
 -- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc.
 www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
 New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html
 




Re: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister

2001-02-23 Thread Rod... Whitworth

On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:57:03 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not
and lots of other stuff requoting in full his promotion which, if it had 
anything to do with qmail, was only of peripheral interest to a few.

If I was ever likely to be interested in such a product this would cause me to 
look elsewhere.

Get off my bandwidth. It costs ME not you!






Re: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister

2001-02-23 Thread John Gonzalez/netMDC admin

Inter7 writes alot of qmail software that is very ontopic for much of this
list. I for one dont have a problem with them posting announcements

If your opinion differs from his, thats fine. If you dont like his
attitude, thats fine.

But please dont suggest that his post is off topic and wasting your
bandwidth.

Your whining is wasting mine. Lesson - delete it, or get off the list if
you dont appreciate the discussion.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Rod... Whitworth wrote:

| On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:57:03 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 
| Not
| and lots of other stuff requoting in full his promotion which, if it had 
| anything to do with qmail, was only of peripheral interest to a few.
| 
| If I was ever likely to be interested in such a product this would cause me to 
| look elsewhere.
| 
| Get off my bandwidth. It costs ME not you!

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Re: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister

2001-02-23 Thread vol

Not everyone has a single box devoted to Apache with
PHP modules.  In fact, many people run a large amount
of time consuming processes.  Efficiency is always a
factor, when it can be taken into account.  Web
based products should always be concerned with efficiency.

Mark Delany wrote:
 
 On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 11:30:53AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Maybe what I said wasn't as clear as it could
  have been.  Exactly what you requested below,
  is the feature we will be adding.
 
  PHP is inefficient BTW. :)
 
 Totally OT, but one user registration per second adds up to 86,400 new
 users per day.
 
 Can a small web server running PHP handle one registration per second?
 Answer: yes.  Does hotmail.com do more than 86K registrations per day?
 Answer: no.
 
 Conclusion: One small webserver running PHP can handle all the
 registrations for arguable the largest webmail service on the planet.
 
 Efficiency is not always the most relevant selection criteria.
 
 Regards.
 
 
  Dan Phoenix wrote:
  
   Quite honestly this is a custom form that most of us code ourselves in php
   to insert the info we need from users. What you really need to do is allow
   us to pick our own fields...and integrate whatever html we want into it.
  
   Regards,
  
   Dan
  
   On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:52:06 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister
   
vQregister is new web-based signup CGI that
more than replaces the old vQsignup program
we released early last year.  If you're running
vQsignup now, or you're considering allowing
users to signup for free accounts, it's worth
taking a look at.
   
We will be adding a new feature very soon
which will be used to collect demographic,
or any other information administrators might
want during the signup process.  This information
might include their cleartext password, a
challenge password (for retrieving the cleartext
password over the phone), and other demographic
information such as zip codes, cities, etc.
We intend to make this fully configurable, so
that whatever information you wish to collect,
is easy to setup.
   
Head over to http://www.inter7.com/vqregister to
take a look at it.
   
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc.
www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html
   
 
  --
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc.
  www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
  New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc.
www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html



Re: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister

2001-02-23 Thread vol

Apparently some companies devote more time than
others to their releases.

Dan Phoenix wrote:
 
 inefficent?
 alot of speed and very easy to code.
 Take me 10 lines of c code for one line in php.
 + it is built in apache as a module so it runs faster.
 
 Of course c is faster and for any kind of real software it should be used.
 But for a websitephp is generally the choice.
 
 On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:30:53 -0600
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Dan Phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister
 
  Maybe what I said wasn't as clear as it could
  have been.  Exactly what you requested below,
  is the feature we will be adding.
 
  PHP is inefficient BTW. :)
 
  Dan Phoenix wrote:
  
   Quite honestly this is a custom form that most of us code ourselves in php
   to insert the info we need from users. What you really need to do is allow
   us to pick our own fields...and integrate whatever html we want into it.
  
   Regards,
  
   Dan
  
   On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:52:06 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Inter7 introduces new software: vQregister
   
vQregister is new web-based signup CGI that
more than replaces the old vQsignup program
we released early last year.  If you're running
vQsignup now, or you're considering allowing
users to signup for free accounts, it's worth
taking a look at.
   
We will be adding a new feature very soon
which will be used to collect demographic,
or any other information administrators might
want during the signup process.  This information
might include their cleartext password, a
challenge password (for retrieving the cleartext
password over the phone), and other demographic
information such as zip codes, cities, etc.
We intend to make this fully configurable, so
that whatever information you wish to collect,
is easy to setup.
   
Head over to http://www.inter7.com/vqregister to
take a look at it.
   
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc.
www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html
   
 
  --
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  Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc.
  www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
  New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html
 

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc.
www.inter7.com - 847-492-0470
New prices!  http://www.inter7.com/prices.html