Linux Mandrake qmail packages available

2000-08-18 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Aug 14, 2000 at 07:55:46PM +0200, Gerrit Pape wrote:

There are now Linux Mandrake qmail RPMs available for testing.  They
are not part of the Linux Mandrake distribution, which I hope will
change (once I get DJB's blessing I hope!).  The following packages are
part of the package:

qmail-1.03-7mdk.i386.rpm
daemontools-0.70-3mdk.i386.rpm
dot-forward-0.51-2mdk.i386.rpm
fastforward-0.51-2mdk.i386.rpm
ucspi-tcp-0.88-3mdk.i386.rpm

I have tested these packages on my own system and they work very well
out of the box.  No patches are applied, the installed system is a
pristine system identical to a regular qmail compilation/installation
with the following exceptions:

- manpages are bzipped
- symlink from /var/qmail/man/* to /usr/share/man/*
- manpages are added to daemontools and ucspi-tcp
- uid/gid info for qmail is hardcoded in the spec file (this helps to
  preserve permissions across re-installs instead of having different
  uid/gid info on various installs)

All of these packages together will setup qmail on a Linux Mandrake
system (and, most likely, any other RPM-based distribution although I
can't guarantee this).  They were built on a Linux Mandrake 7.1 system.

Any Linux Mandrake users: please test/try these packages (if you wish)
and help to get them approvied by D. J. Bernstein so we can include
them in the main Linux Mandrake distribution, or at the very least, as
part of the RPM contributions.

Please, when testing, make sure they comply with
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html and
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/var-qmail.html.  This is the only way they will
be approved by DJB, so if there are any discrepencies, please let me
know.

You can download the RPMs from:

ftp://ftp.freezer-burn.org/pub/custom/{qmail,daemontools,ucspi-tcp,...}

or

www.freezer-burn.org/rpm.php3

Thanks.

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Re: Linux Mandrake qmail packages available

2000-08-19 Thread Russell Nelson

Vincent Danen writes:
 > Please, when testing, make sure they comply with
 > http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html and
 > http://cr.yp.to/qmail/var-qmail.html.  This is the only way they will
 > be approved by DJB, so if there are any discrepencies, please let me
 > know.

As far as I know, Dan is giving you permission, not conditions for his
approval.  You *already* have his permission to distribute the binary
releases, as long as you abide by the restrictions he imposes.

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Re: Linux Mandrake qmail packages available

2000-08-20 Thread Vincent Danen

On Sun Aug 20, 2000 at 12:20:51AM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote:

>  > Please, when testing, make sure they comply with
>  > http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html and
>  > http://cr.yp.to/qmail/var-qmail.html.  This is the only way they will
>  > be approved by DJB, so if there are any discrepencies, please let me
>  > know.
> 
> As far as I know, Dan is giving you permission, not conditions for his
> approval.  You *already* have his permission to distribute the binary
> releases, as long as you abide by the restrictions he imposes.

Well, if that's the case, that's awesome news!  I thought it was
necessary to get his direct "yes you can distribute it" permission
prior to doing so...  for myself, I'm not too concerned because I've
tested and re-tested so that it installs good, removes clean, and works
out of the box.  My concern was putting it on the Mandrake distro
itself as I don't want them to get into any legal issues...

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Re: Linux Mandrake qmail packages available

2000-08-21 Thread Gerrit Pape

On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 10:21:53AM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote:
> change (once I get DJB's blessing I hope!).  The following packages are
> part of the package:
> 
> qmail-1.03-7mdk.i386.rpm
> daemontools-0.70-3mdk.i386.rpm
> dot-forward-0.51-2mdk.i386.rpm
> fastforward-0.51-2mdk.i386.rpm
> ucspi-tcp-0.88-3mdk.i386.rpm
>
Hello Vincent,

I did not look at Your packages yet, but three things:

o http://cr.yp.to/qmail/var-qmail.html says:
  > A var-qmail package does not set up qmail to receive and deliver mail. A
  > user has to follow the instructions in
  > /var/qmail/doc/fastforward/ALIASES and in /var/qmail/doc/INSTALL starting at
  > step 9:
  I do not see a qmail-run rpm, it seems, the qmail-packages sets up qmail
  as MTA.
o You included man-pages in daemontools and ucspi-tcp packages. Put them in
  extra packages.
o there allready are qmail rpms?

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Re: Linux Mandrake qmail packages available

2000-08-23 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Aug 21, 2000 at 10:00:37AM +0200, Gerrit Pape wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 10:21:53AM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote:
> > change (once I get DJB's blessing I hope!).  The following packages are
> > part of the package:
> > 
> > qmail-1.03-7mdk.i386.rpm
> > daemontools-0.70-3mdk.i386.rpm
> > dot-forward-0.51-2mdk.i386.rpm
> > fastforward-0.51-2mdk.i386.rpm
> > ucspi-tcp-0.88-3mdk.i386.rpm
> >
> Hello Vincent,
> 
> I did not look at Your packages yet, but three things:
> 
> o http://cr.yp.to/qmail/var-qmail.html says:
>   > A var-qmail package does not set up qmail to receive and deliver mail. A
>   > user has to follow the instructions in
>   > /var/qmail/doc/fastforward/ALIASES and in /var/qmail/doc/INSTALL starting at
>   > step 9:
>   I do not see a qmail-run rpm, it seems, the qmail-packages sets up qmail
>   as MTA.

I'll have to look at this again...  Maybe I misunderstood something. 
Changing the name of the RPM is no big deal.  And yes, it does set it
up as MTA.


> o You included man-pages in daemontools and ucspi-tcp packages. Put them in
>   extra packages.

Why?  Are there licensing issues with daemontools and ucspi-tcp that
prevent me from distributing manpages with it?  If there are, I'll
definately do it, but if there aren't, then I don't see why I should
make someone install two extra RPMs just for manpages (seems kinda
silly to me).

> o there allready are qmail rpms?

Not for Mandrake and not in binary form.  I've used Bruce's RPM package
before and although it works great, it's not something that can be
installed without interaction like during a fresh system install off of
a CD-ROM (which is ultimately the aim here).

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