Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question
On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 03:07:38PM -0600, Keary Suska wrote: > Does anyone have comments, recommendations, or warnings over the various > SMTP Auth patches available? I can't seem to find any hard information to > compare them. There are several patches available, the best is, i think, the one listed at qmail.org that was produced by Eric M. Johnston. You can use any checkpassword you want, so its really easy to authenticate against a vmailmgr list or similar > > Keary Suska > Esoteritech, Inc. > "Leveraging Open Source for a better Internet" > -- --/-/-- Lukas Beeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---\-\-- \ \ My HomePage: http://www.projectdream.org> / /
Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question
can someone suggest me place where to look how to make qmail smtp auth? i was able to do it via vpopmail but i'm sure there is more "native" way:) - Original Message - From: "Keary Suska" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Qmail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:07 PM Subject: SMTP Auth Patch Question > Does anyone have comments, recommendations, or warnings over the various > SMTP Auth patches available? I can't seem to find any hard information to > compare them. > > Keary Suska > Esoteritech, Inc. > "Leveraging Open Source for a better Internet" > >
Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question
On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 05:28:16PM -0400, alexus wrote: > can someone suggest me place where to look how to make qmail smtp auth? look at http://www.qmail.org > > i was able to do it via vpopmail but i'm sure there is more "native" way:) what do you mean with that ? > > > > > Does anyone have comments, recommendations, or warnings over the various > > SMTP Auth patches available? I can't seem to find any hard information to > > compare them. > > > > Keary Suska > > Esoteritech, Inc. > > "Leveraging Open Source for a better Internet" > > > > > -- --/-/-- Lukas Beeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---\-\-- \ \ My HomePage: http://www.projectdream.org> / /
Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question
look for "roaming" unfortunately I didn't had quite pleasure experience with inter7 they doesn't really "enjoying" with support of their products.. I found at least 2 bugs and when I was pointing it out for them it took me quite a while to convince them that this is a bug.. they fixed one bug in new development version and refuse to accept that they have one more bug.. which I keep getting e-mails from other's people who looked at archive.. and inter7 wants to kick us out from their list 'cause supposedly I was making too much traffic while explain them and the whole list about those glitches in their software... so unless you know exactly what you doing I'd suggest you think twice before installing any of inter7's product.. other then that I think inter7 have a great products and very shitty support, my company called them to make commercial support for one of their products.. it seems to us that either they don't know nothing about those products themselves or else I don't know... - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "alexus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question > hello alexus > > Could u tell me how to do it via vpopmail?Are there some doc about it?I search inter7.com website but get nothing about it. > please tell me detail. > thanks a lot > > best regard > > > > > >can someone suggest me place where to look how to make qmail smtp auth? > > > >i was able to do it via vpopmail but i'm sure there is more "native" way:) > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Keary Suska" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Qmail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:07 PM > >Subject: SMTP Auth Patch Question > > > > > >> Does anyone have comments, recommendations, or warnings over the various > >> SMTP Auth patches available? I can't seem to find any hard information to > >> compare them. > >> > >> Keary Suska > >> Esoteritech, Inc. > >> "Leveraging Open Source for a better Internet" > >> > >> > > > tengteng > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question
a perfect example of the saying "A bad craftsman blames his tools"...its really painful to see people using open source products without knowing what the word "Open source" means. regards dushyanth > unfortunately I didn't had quite pleasure experience with inter7 > > they doesn't really "enjoying" with support of their products.. I found > at least 2 bugs and when I was pointing it out for them it took me > quite a while to convince them that this is a bug.. they fixed one bug > in new development version and refuse to accept that they have one more > bug.. which I keep getting e-mails from other's people who looked at > archive.. and inter7 wants to kick us out from their list 'cause > supposedly I was making too much traffic while explain them and the > whole list about those glitches in their software... > so unless you know exactly what you doing I'd suggest you think twice > before installing any of inter7's product.. other then that I think > inter7 have a great products and very shitty support, my company called > them to make commercial support for one of their products.. it seems to > us that either they don't know nothing about those products themselves > or else I don't know... > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "alexus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 10:00 PM > Subject: Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question > > >> hello alexus >> >> Could u tell me how to do it via vpopmail?Are there some doc about >> it?I > search inter7.com website but get nothing about it. >> please tell me detail. >> thanks a lot >> >> best regard >> >> >> >> >> >can someone suggest me place where to look how to make qmail smtp >> >auth? >> > >> >i was able to do it via vpopmail but i'm sure there is more "native" > way:) >> > >> >- Original Message - >> >From: "Keary Suska" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >To: "Qmail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:07 PM >> >Subject: SMTP Auth Patch Question >> > >> > >> >> Does anyone have comments, recommendations, or warnings over the > various >> >> SMTP Auth patches available? I can't seem to find any hard >> >> information > to >> >> compare them. >> >> >> >> Keary Suska >> >> Esoteritech, Inc. >> >> "Leveraging Open Source for a better Internet" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> tengteng >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dushyanth Harinath Archean Infotech Limited Ph No:091-040-3228666,6570704,3228674 http://www.archeanit.com - This email was sent using SquirrelMail. "Webmail for nuts!" http://squirrelmail.org/
Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question
its not even near like that i do know what open source means and inter7 also offering a commercial support.. which only showed me and my company that inter7 doesn't really handle it on professional level .. maybe i'm wrong.. its just my opinion and i can't say that their products is bad.. i really like their products and use most of them .. apparantly there is two different departments with different people who developed this software and who suppoorts it.. its just when i was keep telling them about their bugs they didn't seem to want to accept that .. and people keep e-mailing me with this specific issues that i've tryed to discuess with inter7 on their mailing lists.. and instead of fixing those problems not only inter7 refuses to acknowledge them they also basically asked me and other folks whoever was activly discussing this issue to take this matter some place else due to we were making a bit more traffic with their mailing lists then its usually is which is almost nothing .. if you'd sign up on their courier imapd or sqwebmail .. those lists are almost dead.. and when we start discussin them for uknown to me reasons inter7 wasn't very happy about all that... also some people (i'm not going say their names) at inter7 doesn't seem to know basics as well.. one of the bugs was related to mysql .. user permitions and such.. their suggests was to use root.. apparantly not everyone seems to like that idea.. so people wanted to create another user with right privilages and use this user instead.. inter7 had no clue how all privilages in mysql works.. anyway.. i'm sure its very boring for most of the people and its not really related to our subject... so i'll stop.. let me just end my lines with that even though looks like inter7 is bunch of i'm sure they are still a good people:) - Original Message - From: "Dushyanth Harinath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 3:34 AM Subject: Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question > a perfect example of the saying "A bad craftsman blames his tools"...its > really painful to see people using open source products without knowing > what the word "Open source" means. > > regards > dushyanth > > > unfortunately I didn't had quite pleasure experience with inter7 > > > > they doesn't really "enjoying" with support of their products.. I found > > at least 2 bugs and when I was pointing it out for them it took me > > quite a while to convince them that this is a bug.. they fixed one bug > > in new development version and refuse to accept that they have one more > > bug.. which I keep getting e-mails from other's people who looked at > > archive.. and inter7 wants to kick us out from their list 'cause > > supposedly I was making too much traffic while explain them and the > > whole list about those glitches in their software... > > > so unless you know exactly what you doing I'd suggest you think twice > > before installing any of inter7's product.. other then that I think > > inter7 have a great products and very shitty support, my company called > > them to make commercial support for one of their products.. it seems to > > us that either they don't know nothing about those products themselves > > or else I don't know... > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "alexus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 10:00 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question > > > > > >> hello alexus > >> > >> Could u tell me how to do it via vpopmail?Are there some doc about > >> it?I > > search inter7.com website but get nothing about it. > >> please tell me detail. > >> thanks a lot > >> > >> best regard > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >can someone suggest me place where to look how to make qmail smtp > >> >auth? > >> > > >> >i was able to do it via vpopmail but i'm sure there is more "native" > > way:) > >> > > >> >- Original Message - > >> >From: "Keary Suska" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >To: "Qmail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:07 PM > >> >Subject: SMTP Auth Patch Question > >> > > >> > > >> >> Does anyone have comments, recommendations, or warnings over the > > various > >> >> SMTP Auth patches available? I can't seem to find any hard > >> >> information > > to > >> >> compare them. > >> >> > >> >> Keary Suska > >> >> Esoteritech, Inc. > >> >> "Leveraging Open Source for a better Internet" > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> tengteng > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Dushyanth Harinath > Archean Infotech Limited > Ph No:091-040-3228666,6570704,3228674 > http://www.archeanit.com > > > > - > This email was sent using SquirrelMail. >"Webmail for nuts!" > http://squirrelmail.org/ > > >
Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 04:15:49AM -0400, alexus wrote: Dear alexus, > let me just end my lines with that even though looks like inter7 is > bunch of i'm sure they are still a good people:) Let me begin my assessment of your ad hominem attack with an exec summary: you suck. Having proven over an extended period of time that your are an incompetent luser with the technical expertise of an amoeba, you are now publicly attacking members of a company that offers a whole host of free software (very good software at that). Now, apart from the fact that you do not leave the impression of being able to assess inter7's technical expertise due to the fact that your technical understanding does not extend beyond clicking on setup.exe, I have also yet to see someone using their MUA in the way you do and yet be able to competently run a mail server. It may come as a surprise to you, but this is not the correct place to discuss your intellectual shortcomings, your very own non-qmail related technical problems (like, not wasting everyone's bandwidth (for which some people have to pay, you know?) with your luser software) or your personal problems with some help-desk staff somewhere on this planet. And while we're at it: 3rd party patches, MySQL and all of inter7's software do not belong here, either. "Not belong" as in "go read the instructions on cr.yp.to and then unsubscribe or - preferably - die". -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question
man.. I was asked question on this list.. I replay, I suggested something.. how did we get to all this? even though I didn't had very pleasant experience with inter7 I still get trying to help all of people who search their mailing list and who send me e-mails because of those bugs ( just trying to follow open source license) .. so robin so you can go and ... yourself and for future references.. if you have something to say tell it to me inperson and not on the list I don't think this is an appropriate place to discuss this kind of things - Original Message - From: "Robin S. Socha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 5:05 AM Subject: Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question > On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 04:15:49AM -0400, alexus wrote: > > Dear alexus, > > > let me just end my lines with that even though looks like inter7 is > > bunch of i'm sure they are still a good people:) > > Let me begin my assessment of your ad hominem attack with an exec > summary: you suck. > > Having proven over an extended period of time that your are an > incompetent luser with the technical expertise of an amoeba, you are > now publicly attacking members of a company that offers a whole host > of free software (very good software at that). > > Now, apart from the fact that you do not leave the impression of being > able to assess inter7's technical expertise due to the fact that your > technical understanding does not extend beyond clicking on setup.exe, > I have also yet to see someone using their MUA in the way you do and > yet be able to competently run a mail server. > > It may come as a surprise to you, but this is not the correct place to > discuss your intellectual shortcomings, your very own non-qmail > related technical problems (like, not wasting everyone's bandwidth > (for which some people have to pay, you know?) with your luser > software) or your personal problems with some help-desk staff > somewhere on this planet. > > And while we're at it: 3rd party patches, MySQL and all of inter7's > software do not belong here, either. "Not belong" as in "go read the > instructions on cr.yp.to and then unsubscribe or - preferably - die". > -- > Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). > `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They > prefer to be called "Sons Of The Third Reich".' (Kate: www.katewerk.com) >
Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question
> > even though I didn't had very pleasant experience with inter7 I still > get trying to help all of people who search their mailing list and who > send me e-mails because of those bugs ( just trying to follow open > source license) .. > > so robin so you can go and ... yourself Well now. I found the info and documentation from Inter7 to be straightforward. Installed. Tweaked. Worked. Works great. So seems to me that it is technical and logical thinking skills that are lacking on your part. MOST Sincerely, John Chapman
Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question
inter7 told me that 1000 of users not having this problem although it very same time there are was few users who said otherwise... so ... whatever... some people doesn't have problems .. probably who uses linux.. maybe inter7 was able to fully tested on linux only.. I don't know.. so like I said whatever.. should I forward all those e-mails that I'm getting to you so you can tell them that they are stupid and can't figure something out? and they having lack of logical thinking skills? huh? let's just drop this whole thing.. I don't really care like I said I'm not against of inter7.. their products is great..and I never said otherwise.. everyone have bugs.. its just some people acknowledge them and some people don't.. heh as everyone saying microsoft claims those bugs as a features:) heh.. - Original Message - From: "John Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "alexus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 1:24 PM Subject: Re: Re: SMTP Auth Patch Question > > > > > even though I didn't had very pleasant experience with inter7 I still > > get trying to help all of people who search their mailing list and who > > send me e-mails because of those bugs ( just trying to follow open > > source license) .. > > > > so robin so you can go and ... yourself > > > Well now. I found the info and documentation from Inter7 to be > straightforward. Installed. Tweaked. Worked. Works great. > > So seems to me that it is technical and logical thinking skills that > are lacking on your part. > > MOST Sincerely, > > John Chapman >
