Re: html based email

2001-05-09 Thread Charles Cazabon

Meuse, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Is there a way anyone knows of to send one email in both html and plain text
> format?

Yes, a multipart/alternative MIME message.  But this has nothing to do with
qmail.  See the documentation for your MUA or webmail provider; any decent MUA
has this ability built in.

Note, however, that using this format may make you fairly unpopular with the
people you send mail to.

Charles
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Re: html based email

2001-05-09 Thread John Hogan

i was, in a former life, a sysadmin for a major-league list-hosting outfit...

no way, no how - don't believe them... it's not possible to float two 
'copies' of the message, with reception being dependent on the user's MUA 
(very difficult to detect on MTA 'send') - also, a lot depends on the 
end-user's reader -- that's possible to detect (difficult) and absolutely 
impossible to predict

set up two lists: html-listname and text-listname - have your users state 
their preference when they subscribe

- hogan

At 08:49 AM 5/9/2001, Meuse, Andy wrote:

>Hey All,
>
> Is there a way anyone knows of to send one email in both html and 
> plain text format? This is so the recipient will get the html version if 
> their mua supports it, and the plain text version if it doesn't.
>
> I know of a service that does this, www.roving.com, but don't 
> know of a way to do it myself. Except scripting my mailing list to send 
> only plain text to like AOl and other domains I know don't support html.
>
>Thanks,
>Andy


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Re: html based email

2001-05-09 Thread Kris Kelley


Andy Meuse wrote:

> Is there a way anyone knows of to send one email in both html and
> plain text format?

This is up to your email client.  If I remember correctly, Outlook and
Outlook Express send messages in both formats, and I'm sure other clients
do as well.  Check the documentation of your favorite client.

By the way, sending HTML and other "rich text" messages is heavily frowned
upon in technical communities, such as the qmail mailing list.  So, it
would be to your advantage to also use a client that can send plain text
only, and to make sure your intended recipient won't mind getting HTML,
before you send it.

---Kris Kelley




Re: html based email

2001-05-09 Thread Mark Delany

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 09:33:56AM -0500, John Hogan wrote:
> i was, in a former life, a sysadmin for a major-league list-hosting outfit...
> 
> no way, no how - don't believe them... it's not possible to float two 
> 'copies' of the message, with reception being dependent on the user's MUA 

Well, that is, apart from multipart/alternative. Not supported on all
MUAs, but it's one way to do it.

As an aside, I believe that AOL mail does support HTML, but the idea
of doing content on a domain is pretty flawed.

Regards.


> (very difficult to detect on MTA 'send') - also, a lot depends on the 
> end-user's reader -- that's possible to detect (difficult) and absolutely 
> impossible to predict
> 
> set up two lists: html-listname and text-listname - have your users state 
> their preference when they subscribe
> 
> - hogan
> 
> At 08:49 AM 5/9/2001, Meuse, Andy wrote:
> 
> >Hey All,
> >
> > Is there a way anyone knows of to send one email in both html and 
> > plain text format? This is so the recipient will get the html version if 
> > their mua supports it, and the plain text version if it doesn't.
> >
> > I know of a service that does this, www.roving.com, but don't 
> > know of a way to do it myself. Except scripting my mailing list to send 
> > only plain text to like AOl and other domains I know don't support html.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Andy
> 
> 
> _
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> 



Re: html based email

2001-05-09 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer

Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> any decent MUA
> has this ability built in.

And turned off by default :)

Regards, Frank



RE: html based email

2001-05-09 Thread Michael Boyiazis

We have a subsidiary that sends out this type of mail.
It has 3 parts:
plain text
html for normals
html for aol
don't know how they do it, but they do it.

-- 
Michael Boyiazis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc.

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 8:29 AM
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Re: html based email

2001-05-09 Thread Caspar Bothmer

You already did use an mua that sends both.

caspar

> "Meuse, Andy" wrote:
> 
> Hey All,
> 
> Is there a way anyone knows of to send one email in both html
> and plain text format? This is so the recipient will get the html
> version if their mua supports it, and the plain text version if it
> doesn't.



RE: html based email

2001-05-09 Thread Meuse, Andy
Title: RE: html based email





Thanks for the input/opinions everybody.
-Andy



> It has 3 parts:
> plain text
> html for normals
> html for aol


So I guess aol is abnormal? Who woulda thought.





Re: html based email

2001-05-09 Thread Andy Bradford

On Wed, 09 May 2001 09:40:22 PDT, "Michael Boyiazis" wrote:

> It has 3 parts:
> plain text
> html for normals
> html for aol

Shouldn't that be:
text/plain for normals
bloat/html for lusers
bloat/html for aol users

:-)

Andy




RE: html based email

2001-05-09 Thread Michael McNicholas


another alternative is to have a plain text version
of the email in an html comment at the top of the email.
eg