Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions

2000-07-21 Thread Julian Brown

Ok, here's my configuration.  If anyone can tell me why I have slow mail
delivery, I checked the Trigger permissions and they are supposedly fine.
Any insight would be so greatly appreciated.

Pentium III 550
256 Megs of Ram
FreeBSD 3.3
Rackspace.Com Network (Multiple OC3 - Peering on several backbones)

Top reports the system as being 97.3% Idle.
Qmail-Qstat reports :

Messages In Queue: 44
Message in Queue but notyet preprocessed: 0

And the number does not drop too quickly.  In fact, it takes several hours
for mail to clear out.

Regards,

Julian

- Original Message -
From: Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone know why mail delivery could be extremely slow?

 1) trigger probs
 2) server is busy doing other stuff
 3) network probs
 4) insufficient hardware (memory, CPU, disk bandwidth)
 5) poor connectivity

 My trigger file is setup correctly and I am looking for some really
 really helpful answers, soon *gulp*

 We'll need lots more data to be able to diagnose this. E.g.:

 1) hardware configuration
 2) software configuration (OS, other apps)
 3) network configuration
 4) output of qmail-showctl, qmail-qstat, vmstat, iostat, top
 5) tail of qmail-send log

 -Dave





Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions

2000-07-21 Thread Dave Sill

"Julian Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ok, here's my configuration.  If anyone can tell me why I have slow mail
delivery, I checked the Trigger permissions and they are supposedly fine.
Any insight would be so greatly appreciated.

Pentium III 550
256 Megs of Ram
FreeBSD 3.3
Rackspace.Com Network (Multiple OC3 - Peering on several backbones)

Top reports the system as being 97.3% Idle.
Qmail-Qstat reports :

Messages In Queue: 44
Message in Queue but notyet preprocessed: 0

And the number does not drop too quickly.  In fact, it takes several hours
for mail to clear out.

That's all good information, but I asked for:

 1) hardware configuration
 2) software configuration (OS, other apps)
 3) network configuration
 4) output of qmail-showctl, qmail-qstat, vmstat, iostat, top
 5) tail of qmail-send log

Why did you stop at #3?

-Dave



Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions

2000-07-21 Thread markd

On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 11:41:55AM -0400, Julian Brown wrote:
 Ok, here's my configuration.  If anyone can tell me why I have slow mail
 delivery, I checked the Trigger permissions and they are supposedly fine.
 Any insight would be so greatly appreciated.
 
 Pentium III 550
 256 Megs of Ram
 FreeBSD 3.3
 Rackspace.Com Network (Multiple OC3 - Peering on several backbones)
 
 Top reports the system as being 97.3% Idle.
 Qmail-Qstat reports :
 
 Messages In Queue: 44
 Message in Queue but notyet preprocessed: 0
 
 And the number does not drop too quickly.  In fact, it takes several hours
 for mail to clear out.

As Dave said. We'll need lots more data to diagnose this. Showing us the
logs would be a good start - unsanitized of course. Statements like "does
not drop too quickly" is hardly data - especially when you're talking to
a bunch of MTA techos.
 
Regards.

 
 Regards,
 
 Julian
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 9:36 AM
 Subject: Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Anyone know why mail delivery could be extremely slow?
 
  1) trigger probs
  2) server is busy doing other stuff
  3) network probs
  4) insufficient hardware (memory, CPU, disk bandwidth)
  5) poor connectivity
 
  My trigger file is setup correctly and I am looking for some really
  really helpful answers, soon *gulp*
 
  We'll need lots more data to be able to diagnose this. E.g.:
 
  1) hardware configuration
  2) software configuration (OS, other apps)
  3) network configuration
  4) output of qmail-showctl, qmail-qstat, vmstat, iostat, top
  5) tail of qmail-send log
 
  -Dave
 
 



Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions

2000-07-21 Thread Julian Brown

Just because showctl prints out all of my virtualdomains and rcpthosts and
qmail-send is logged under maillog on my system and it's full of tcpserver
stuff.  If you can give me something to yank out of the log that is of
interest to you I can grab it.  Same with showctl, I'm not sure what you
need from that but I can send whatever you want me to.

J

- Original Message -
From: Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions


 "Julian Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, here's my configuration.  If anyone can tell me why I have slow mail
 delivery, I checked the Trigger permissions and they are supposedly fine.
 Any insight would be so greatly appreciated.
 
 Pentium III 550
 256 Megs of Ram
 FreeBSD 3.3
 Rackspace.Com Network (Multiple OC3 - Peering on several backbones)
 
 Top reports the system as being 97.3% Idle.
 Qmail-Qstat reports :
 
 Messages In Queue: 44
 Message in Queue but notyet preprocessed: 0
 
 And the number does not drop too quickly.  In fact, it takes several
hours
 for mail to clear out.

 That's all good information, but I asked for:

  1) hardware configuration
  2) software configuration (OS, other apps)
  3) network configuration
  4) output of qmail-showctl, qmail-qstat, vmstat, iostat, top
  5) tail of qmail-send log

 Why did you stop at #3?

 -Dave





Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions

2000-07-21 Thread Julian Brown

Ok so you guys want me to attach my log or something? If you're sure that's
what you need I would be more than happy.  Let me know I'll send it to your
private boxes.

J

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions


 On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 11:41:55AM -0400, Julian Brown wrote:
  Ok, here's my configuration.  If anyone can tell me why I have slow mail
  delivery, I checked the Trigger permissions and they are supposedly
fine.
  Any insight would be so greatly appreciated.
 
  Pentium III 550
  256 Megs of Ram
  FreeBSD 3.3
  Rackspace.Com Network (Multiple OC3 - Peering on several backbones)
 
  Top reports the system as being 97.3% Idle.
  Qmail-Qstat reports :
 
  Messages In Queue: 44
  Message in Queue but notyet preprocessed: 0
 
  And the number does not drop too quickly.  In fact, it takes several
hours
  for mail to clear out.

 As Dave said. We'll need lots more data to diagnose this. Showing us the
 logs would be a good start - unsanitized of course. Statements like "does
 not drop too quickly" is hardly data - especially when you're talking to
 a bunch of MTA techos.

 Regards.

 
  Regards,
 
  Julian
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 9:36 AM
  Subject: Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions
 
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Anyone know why mail delivery could be extremely slow?
  
   1) trigger probs
   2) server is busy doing other stuff
   3) network probs
   4) insufficient hardware (memory, CPU, disk bandwidth)
   5) poor connectivity
  
   My trigger file is setup correctly and I am looking for some really
   really helpful answers, soon *gulp*
  
   We'll need lots more data to be able to diagnose this. E.g.:
  
   1) hardware configuration
   2) software configuration (OS, other apps)
   3) network configuration
   4) output of qmail-showctl, qmail-qstat, vmstat, iostat, top
   5) tail of qmail-send log
  
   -Dave
  
 





Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions

2000-07-21 Thread Robert Sander

On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 09:02:34AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Messages In Queue: 44
  Message in Queue but notyet preprocessed: 0

What does qmail-qread say? Maybe these are just messages that could not
be delivered.

Greetings
-- 
Robert Sander
Epigenomics AG   www.epigenomics.de   Kastanienallee 24
+493024345330  10435 Berlin




Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions

2000-07-21 Thread markd

On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 12:26:42PM -0400, Julian Brown wrote:
 Ok so you guys want me to attach my log or something? If you're sure that's
 what you need I would be more than happy.  Let me know I'll send it to your
 private boxes.

If you're concerned about their size or which parts are relevant,
the recommended practise is to dump them on a web page and just
email the URL to the list. It might be nice if they were split up
a little bit. The split command does nicely in that regard.


Regards.



Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions

2000-07-21 Thread Dave Sill

"Julian Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ok so you guys want me to attach my log or something? If you're sure that's
what you need I would be more than happy.  Let me know I'll send it to your
private boxes.

No, I don't want a copy of your entire mail log. If you can't post the 
last 30 lines or so to the list, I guess you'll have to investigate
other options like hiring a consultant, figuring it out yourself, or
switching to another MTA.

-Dave



Re: Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions

2000-07-21 Thread markd

On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 12:23:59PM -0400, Julian Brown wrote:
 Just because showctl prints out all of my virtualdomains and rcpthosts and
 qmail-send is logged under maillog on my system and it's full of tcpserver
 stuff.  If you can give me something to yank out of the log that is of
 interest to you I can grab it.  Same with showctl, I'm not sure what you
 need from that but I can send whatever you want me to.

That's part of the reason why Dave (and his FAQ) recommend providing
as much info as you can. No one yet knows what is relevant. It's
hard to provide too much information in such circumstances, as different
readers have probably formulated potential causes and each will
look at different info to start with. Almost certainly one of them
will be right. Do you want each reader to be able to test their theories
easily by maximizing what they are told or do you want to discourage them
by making them "work" the information out of you?


Regards.



Slow Slow Mail Delivery, Not Trigger Permissions

2000-07-20 Thread jca

Anyone know why mail delivery could be extremely slow? My trigger file is setup 
correctly and I am looking for some really really helpful answers, soon *gulp* 

REgards,

Julian