Where did this BOGUS file come from.

2000-10-24 Thread Duane L.

 
This is possibly a stupid question, but I don't know where to look for an
answer. If you feel you must flame me, please spare the list and email me
directly.


Running qmail 1.03 on SunOS 5.6   Had a user complaining that an important
email never arrived. Poking around in their home directory I found this  
file ...
-rw---   1 root users   12618 Oct 24 08:34 BOGUS.LtFK

looking at its contents... there are 3 emails in it. 2 addressed to the
user implicitly and another to a list he subscribed to.  

Questions:
Why weren't these messages piped to the users .mail file ?   

Is the BOGUS.* file a normal qmail operation ? and if so, what might help
to prevent this problem in the future.


Any insights greatly apreciated.

TIA
Duane L - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

  




Re: Where did this BOGUS file come from.

2000-10-24 Thread Alex Pennace

On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 01:00:58PM -0700, Duane L. wrote:
> [...] Had a user complaining that an important
> email never arrived. Poking around in their home directory I found this  
> file ...
> -rw---   1 root users   12618 Oct 24 08:34 BOGUS.LtFK
> 
> looking at its contents... there are 3 emails in it. 2 addressed to the
> user implicitly and another to a list he subscribed to.  
> 
> Questions:
> Why weren't these messages piped to the users .mail file ?   
> 
> Is the BOGUS.* file a normal qmail operation ? and if so, what might help
> to prevent this problem in the future.

No, qmail doesn't generate BOGUS files by itself. Something is causing
qmail to generate it. What do the logs say?

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Re: Where did this BOGUS file come from.

2000-10-24 Thread markd

On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 01:01:20PM -0700, Duane L. wrote:
>  
> This is possibly a stupid question, but I don't know where to look for an
> answer. If you feel you must flame me, please spare the list and email me
> directly.
> 
> 
> Running qmail 1.03 on SunOS 5.6   Had a user complaining that an important
> email never arrived. Poking around in their home directory I found this  
> file ...
> -rw---   1 root users   12618 Oct 24 08:34 BOGUS.LtFK
> 
> looking at its contents... there are 3 emails in it. 2 addressed to the
> user implicitly and another to a list he subscribed to.  
> 
> Questions:
> Why weren't these messages piped to the users .mail file ?   

How do you know they weren't? All you know is that a copy showed up
in the BOGUS.* file.

> Is the BOGUS.* file a normal qmail operation ? and if so, what might help
> to prevent this problem in the future.

No. It's entirely something specific to your site. Furthermore, it has
been created by root and, qmail does not run any user processes as
root - ever. Who has root on that system? Have you asked all those people?


> Any insights greatly apreciated.

Show us the logs of the delivery of those emails. You have the headers
of those mails so you can find the log framents.

Also, you need to tell us more about your qmail installation. Is it standard
or is it modified in some way? What delivery instructions are there for the
user in question?


Regards.



Re: Where did this BOGUS file come from.

2000-10-24 Thread Daniel Augusto Fernandes

Alex Pennace wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 01:00:58PM -0700, Duane L. wrote:
> > [...] Had a user complaining that an important
> > email never arrived. Poking around in their home directory I found this
> > file ...
> > -rw---   1 root users   12618 Oct 24 08:34 BOGUS.LtFK
> >
> > looking at its contents... there are 3 emails in it. 2 addressed to the
> > user implicitly and another to a list he subscribed to.
> >
> > Questions:
> > Why weren't these messages piped to the users .mail file ?
> >
> > Is the BOGUS.* file a normal qmail operation ? and if so, what might help
> > to prevent this problem in the future.
> 
> No, qmail doesn't generate BOGUS files by itself. Something is causing
> qmail to generate it. What do the logs say?

Well,

> > -rw---   1 root users   12618 Oct 24 08:34 BOGUS.LtFK

I don't think qmail would create a file owned by root!


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Re: Where did this BOGUS file come from.

2000-10-24 Thread Bruce Guenter

On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 01:01:20PM -0700, Duane L. wrote:
> Running qmail 1.03 on SunOS 5.6   Had a user complaining that an important
> email never arrived. Poking around in their home directory I found this  
> file ...
> -rw---   1 root users   12618 Oct 24 08:34 BOGUS.LtFK
> 
> looking at its contents... there are 3 emails in it. 2 addressed to the
> user implicitly and another to a list he subscribed to.  
> 
> Questions:
> Why weren't these messages piped to the users .mail file ?   
> 
> Is the BOGUS.* file a normal qmail operation ? and if so, what might help
> to prevent this problem in the future.

The BOGUS files almost certainly came from procmail, when it discovered
that something was odd (in its opinion) with directory permissions or
some such.
-- 
Bruce Guenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   http://em.ca/~bruceg/

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Re: Where did this BOGUS file come from.

2000-10-24 Thread cfm

On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 04:30:09PM -0400, Alex Pennace wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 01:00:58PM -0700, Duane L. wrote:
> > [...] Had a user complaining that an important
> > email never arrived. Poking around in their home directory I found this  
> > file ...
> > -rw---   1 root users   12618 Oct 24 08:34 BOGUS.LtFK
> > 

There is a mail client that creates BOGUS.* files.  I can't remember
which one.

> > looking at its contents... there are 3 emails in it. 2 addressed to the
> > user implicitly and another to a list he subscribed to.  
> > 
> > Questions:
> > Why weren't these messages piped to the users .mail file ?   
> > 
> > Is the BOGUS.* file a normal qmail operation ? and if so, what might help
> > to prevent this problem in the future.
> 
> No, qmail doesn't generate BOGUS files by itself. Something is causing
> qmail to generate it. What do the logs say?



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Re: Where did this BOGUS file come from.

2000-10-24 Thread Jamie Heilman

> Is the BOGUS.* file a normal qmail operation ? and if so, what might help
> to prevent this problem in the future.

Files that have 'BOGUS' in their name make me suspect procmail as the
culprit.  If you use procmail I'd start by looking there.

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