badmailfrom question

1999-02-23 Thread keyoz

are the messages from the addresses in /var/qmail/control/badmailfrom
automatically bounced or do they just go to /dev/null?

I'm not aware where all those spam go.

TIA
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Re: badmailfrom question

1999-02-23 Thread Chris Johnson

On Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 02:57:19AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 are the messages from the addresses in /var/qmail/control/badmailfrom
 automatically bounced or do they just go to /dev/null?

The sender is rejected at the SMTP level. The sender says:

   MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and qmail-smtpd responds:

   553 sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list (#5.7.1)

End of story.

Chris



Re: badmailfrom question

1999-02-23 Thread Richard Shetron

 On Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 02:57:19AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  are the messages from the addresses in /var/qmail/control/badmailfrom
  automatically bounced or do they just go to /dev/null?
 
 The sender is rejected at the SMTP level. The sender says:
 
MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 and qmail-smtpd responds:
 
553 sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list (#5.7.1)
 
 End of story.

Is there anyway to have qmail use badmailfrom on the from line in the
header?  The spammers are forging the envelopes so the envelopes are
pretty useless these days for filtering.

(I've always referred to the "From " line as the envelope sender and
called the "From:" line in the header the header from line.)

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Re: badmailfrom question

1999-02-23 Thread Chris Johnson

On Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 02:02:35PM -0500, Richard Shetron wrote:
  On Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 02:57:19AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   are the messages from the addresses in /var/qmail/control/badmailfrom
   automatically bounced or do they just go to /dev/null?
  
  The sender is rejected at the SMTP level. The sender says:
  
 MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  and qmail-smtpd responds:
  
 553 sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list (#5.7.1)
  
  End of story.
 
 Is there anyway to have qmail use badmailfrom on the from line in the
 header?  The spammers are forging the envelopes so the envelopes are
 pretty useless these days for filtering.

Nope. qmail-smtpd doesn't look at the address headers.

For this task you'll probably need a mail delivery agent with filtering like
maildrop or procmail.

Chris



Re: badmailfrom question

1999-02-23 Thread Mate Wierdl


   MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


   
   Is there anyway to have qmail use badmailfrom on the from line in the
   header?  The spammers are forging the envelopes so the envelopes are
   pretty useless these days for filtering.

The From line *is* the envelope sender, which is coming from the MAIL
FROM during the smtp conversation.  It is not the From: header.

Mate



Re: badmailfrom question

1999-02-23 Thread Mate Wierdl


Is there anyway to have qmail use badmailfrom on the from line in the
header?  The spammers are forging the envelopes so the envelopes are
pretty useless these days for filtering.
   
   Nope. qmail-smtpd doesn't look at the address headers.
   
   For this task you'll probably need a mail delivery agent with filtering like
   maildrop or procmail.

What the original post said does not make much sense: the From line
*is* the envelope sender's address.

Mate



Re: badmailfrom question

1999-02-23 Thread Adam D. McKenna

From: Mate Wierdl [EMAIL PROTECTED]


:What the original post said does not make much sense: the From line
:*is* the envelope sender's address.


No it's not.  If I put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in my badmailfrom, I
will still get messages that you send to the qmail list.  But those messages
will still say:
From: Mate Wierdl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The envelope sender will be:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

--Adam




Re: badmailfrom question

1999-02-23 Thread Adam D. McKenna

From: Mate Wierdl [EMAIL PROTECTED]


:I do not understand what you are talking about: I am talking about
:From line, not From: header.

The other guy wants badmailfrom to work on the From: line.  Not the From:
header (i.e. the From: line in the body of the message)  At least that's how
I understood his question.  Basically the answer is that qmail doesn't do
that.  I am pretty sure maildrop does though.

:Mate


--Adam