Re: mail forwarding: alias
Zhiliang Hu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is one more instance: system alias for root works, ignoring the account ~root ... is there an exception? From INSTALL.alias: * root. Under qmail, root never receives mail. Your system may generate mail messages to root every night; if you don't have an alias for root, those messages will bounce. (They'll end up double-bouncing to the postmaster.) Set up an alias for root in ~alias/.qmail-root. /Jenny -- "I live in the heart of the machine. We are one."
mail forwarding: alias
I have following mail forwarding set up in /var/qmail/alias/: (1) postmaster - mail listmaster - mail - admin1, admin2, ... list-admin - mail (2) webmaster - web www-admin - web - admin1, admin2, ... www - web All the forwarding indicated by "-" is made in /var/qmail/alias/ (individual .qmail-*** files of course); "mail" and "web" are two regular user accounts, were setup almost identically. Now the problem is, while mails through "mail" could be distributed to "admin1, admin2, ...", mails through "web" were all deposited into its incoming mail box, as if "web - admin1, admin2,..." alias didn't exist. I have checked/compared everything I could think of without getting a clue what is happening. Could you give some suggestions? Zhiliang
Re: mail forwarding: alias
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 12:20:49PM -0500, Zhiliang Hu wrote: I have following mail forwarding set up in /var/qmail/alias/: (1) postmaster - mail listmaster - mail - admin1, admin2, ... list-admin - mail (2) webmaster - web www-admin - web - admin1, admin2, ... www - web All the forwarding indicated by "-" is made in /var/qmail/alias/ (individual .qmail-*** files of course); "mail" and "web" are two regular user accounts, were setup almost identically. Now the problem is, while mails through "mail" could be distributed to "admin1, admin2, ...", mails through "web" were all deposited into its incoming mail box, as if "web - admin1, admin2,..." alias didn't exist. Could you just post the actual contents of the various .qmail-* files? I, for one, don't know what " www-admin - web - admin1, admin2, ..." means. Chris
Re: mail forwarding: alias
Ok, here they are: File Content -- --- /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-postmaster mail /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-listmaster mail /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-list-admin mail /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-webmaster web /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-www-admin web /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-www web /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-mailuser1 /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-web user1 -- --- Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:31:30 -0400 From: Chris Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zhiliang Hu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mail forwarding: alias On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 12:20:49PM -0500, Zhiliang Hu wrote: I have following mail forwarding set up in /var/qmail/alias/: (1) postmaster - mail listmaster - mail - admin1, admin2, ... list-admin - mail (2) webmaster - web www-admin - web - admin1, admin2, ... www - web All the forwarding indicated by "-" is made in /var/qmail/alias/ (individual .qmail-*** files of course); "mail" and "web" are two regular user accounts, were setup almost identically. Now the problem is, while mails through "mail" could be distributed to "admin1, admin2, ...", mails through "web" were all deposited into its incoming mail box, as if "web - admin1, admin2,..." alias didn't exist. Could you just post the actual contents of the various .qmail-* files? I, for one, don't know what " www-admin - web - admin1, admin2, ..." means. Chris
Re: mail forwarding: alias
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 01:29:53PM -0500, Zhiliang Hu wrote: Ok, here they are: File Content -- --- /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-postmaster mail /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-listmaster mail /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-list-admin mail /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-webmaster web /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-www-admin web /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-www web /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-mailuser1 /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-web user1 -- --- You said that "mail" and "web" are regular user accounts. If that's the case, then ~alias/.qmail-mail and ~alias/.qmail-web will never be consulted. Chris Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:31:30 -0400 From: Chris Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zhiliang Hu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mail forwarding: alias On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 12:20:49PM -0500, Zhiliang Hu wrote: I have following mail forwarding set up in /var/qmail/alias/: (1) postmaster - mail listmaster - mail - admin1, admin2, ... list-admin - mail (2) webmaster - web www-admin - web - admin1, admin2, ... www - web All the forwarding indicated by "-" is made in /var/qmail/alias/ (individual .qmail-*** files of course); "mail" and "web" are two regular user accounts, were setup almost identically. Now the problem is, while mails through "mail" could be distributed to "admin1, admin2, ...", mails through "web" were all deposited into its incoming mail box, as if "web - admin1, admin2,..." alias didn't exist. Could you just post the actual contents of the various .qmail-* files? I, for one, don't know what " www-admin - web - admin1, admin2, ..." means. Chris
Re: mail forwarding: alias
You said that "mail" and "web" are regular user accounts. If that's the case, then ~alias/.qmail-mail and ~alias/.qmail-web will never be consulted. You mean in qmail the user account precedes system alias? (in sendmail it is opposite). But why one alias, ~alias/.qmail-mail, works fine? That was where I got confused and started to ask ... ;-) For your further information, none of the two accounts were setup for mails. i.e. no ~/.qmail whatsoever, no ~/Mail, no ~/Mailbox ..) Zhiliang
Re: mail forwarding: alias
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 03:18:32PM -0500, Zhiliang Hu wrote: You said that "mail" and "web" are regular user accounts. If that's the case, then ~alias/.qmail-mail and ~alias/.qmail-web will never be consulted. You mean in qmail the user account precedes system alias? (in sendmail it is opposite). Yep. See /var/qmail/doc/PIC.local2alias. alias will get control of mail only if a user account doesn't exist. But why one alias, ~alias/.qmail-mail, works fine? That was where I got confused and started to ask ... ;-) I don't know, and couldn't tell you without looking at your whole setup. But if there's an account called "mail" and there's nothing in users/assign that says otherwise, ~alias/.qmail-mail won't do anything. If it works in your case, then something isn't exactly as you described. Chris
Re: mail forwarding: alias
Thank Chris! There is one more instance: system alias for root works, ignoring the account ~root ... is there an exception? Zhiliang You mean in qmail the user account precedes system alias? (in sendmail it is opposite). Yep. See /var/qmail/doc/PIC.local2alias. alias will get control of mail only if a user account doesn't exist.
Re: mail forwarding: alias
Chris Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep. See /var/qmail/doc/PIC.local2alias. alias will get control of mail only if a user account doesn't exist. But why one alias, ~alias/.qmail-mail, works fine? That was where I got confused and started to ask ... ;-) I don't know, and couldn't tell you without looking at your whole setup. But if there's an account called "mail" and there's nothing in users/assign that says otherwise, ~alias/.qmail-mail won't do anything. If it works in your case, then something isn't exactly as you described. I could be wrong, but it might be because something about those "regular accounts" is funny, and qmail doesn't consider it a valid account. The rules qmail-getpw uses are (from the manpage): qmail-getpw considers an account in /etc/passwd to be a user if (1) the account has a nonzero uid, (2) the account's home directory exists (and is visible to qmail- getpw), and (3) the account owns its home directory. qmail-getpw ignores account names containing uppercase letters So if "mail" or "web" has a non-existent home directory, or one they don't own, the ~alias/.qmail- files might work for those accounts. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: mail forwarding: alias
Charles Cazabon: But why one alias, ~alias/.qmail-mail, works fine? That was where I got confused and started to ask ... ;-) I don't know, and couldn't tell you without looking at your whole setup. But excusee moi, je suis hercule poirot! je pens que les accounts `mail' et `user1' sont identical, et `user1' est =root=! oui! c'est le seulement way les deuz could work! hercule `clemens' poirot
