Re: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail

2001-03-28 Thread James R Grinter

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> IIRC, HP OpenMail on Linux has been discontinued. Another option is to
> look at TradeServer from Bynari - http://www.bynari.com

The Horde project (http://www.horde.org/) is also trying to put
together an appointments/calendar system called Kronolith.

I'm not sure how far they are, though. (IMP, a web-based email client
and another part of the Horde project, works nicely.)

(HP OpenMail has been around a long time - so to say that they
realised it would be an Exchange killer is quite funny!)

James.



Re: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail

2001-03-27 Thread Al Lipscomb

On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 10:36:50PM +0200, Tuchyna, Roman wrote:
> Hello,
> does anybody have any experience with migrating from MS-Exchange to q-mail
> on Linux ?
> 
> Thank you in advance!
> Best regards,
> 
Never done it but I could offer some simple suggestions:

1) Exchange can handle mail using POP3 and/or IMAP4. 

Pick how you want your clients to access mail in the future and get them
running on that software with the current Exchange server and POP3 or
IMAP4 access.


2) Exchange can forward an accounts email to another box.

So that you do not have to convert everything at once move a few boxes
to the qmail system. Have Exchange forward their mail. Once things
are solid on the qmail system let it handle the inbound SMTP traffic
and forward non-local mail to the Exchange server.

3) If the server will run Exchange it should run Linux. Please recycle.

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Re: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail

2001-03-27 Thread Medi Montaseri

In theory, you could use an Outlook express as such a gateway.
Outlook express speaks IMAP and MS Exchange. MS Exchange can
export a .PST file containing every thing in the user's inbox, outbox, etc.

Outlook express can import such .pst files. One  can (in theory) simply
read from a PST file and then push it up to a local folder on the IMAP
server.

This has not been proven to work...its an idea...

"Tuchyna, Roman" wrote:

> O.K., but how can that tool help it the mailboxes are on the MS-Exchange
> server and users are using just JAVA GUI of MS-Exchange ?
>
> Thank you again!
> Roman
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mike Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 27. marec 2001 23:34
> > To: Tuchyna, Roman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail
> >
> >
> > "Tuchyna, Roman" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > does anybody have any experience with migrating from
> > MS-Exchange to q-mail
> > > on Linux ?
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance!
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Roman Tuchyna
> > >
> > >   _
> > >   Roman Tuchyna   S&T Slovakia, s.r.o.
> > >   phone: +421769258111, +421769258109 Polianky 5
> > >   fax: +421769258212  844 04 Bratislava
> > >   E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Slovakia
> > >   http://www.snt.sk
> > >   _
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject:
> >Finally a tool to convert Outlook to mbox
> >Date:
> >Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:20:43 +0200
> >   From:
> >Mike Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Finally there is a tool to convert outlook mailstores to unix format
> > (mbox). One downside is that it only runs in windows (they
> > get ya comin'
> > and goin'). It could be modified to alternatively output to
> > maildir, or
> > the mbox2maildir script could just be ran afterwards as part
> > of the mail
> > server upgrade process.
> >
> > From the KDE Kmail pages at:  http://kmail.kde.org/download.html
> >
> > out2unix ---> http://www.active-com.de/out2unix/
> >
> > Have Fun!
> > Mike
> >

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Re: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail

2001-03-27 Thread Medi Montaseri


I don't think Appoinment have to anything to do with email. Its Microsoft's
way
of proving its worth.
From an IT management point of view keep your resouces seperate.
Or one day
you'll be paying for it. Just like  the idea of TV with VCR built
in it.
If you recall, there was something monolithic called Mainframe. We then
took to streets
to distribute themI think it was the push for open systems and
distributed system.
Vendors would use any chance they get to sucker users into yet another
monolithic
environment.
"Robin S. Socha" wrote:
* Tuchyna, Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> does anybody have any experience with migrating from MS-Exchange to
> q-mail on Linux ?
Will you take "yes" for an answer? You lose stuff like appointment
management, but you get an Operating System and an MTA that works.
If
you don't want to lose that groupware functionality, take a look at
HP's
OpenMail (which uses sendmail AFAICS).
--
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Note to experienced users: Please don't encourage anti-support behavior.
Don't try to answer questions from users who don't provide the necessary
information. Guessing what they did is an incredible waste of time.
(DJB)

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RE: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail

2001-03-27 Thread schoon

IIRC, HP OpenMail on Linux has been discontinued. Another option is to
look at TradeServer from Bynari - http://www.bynari.com

HTH

.mark

>--
>From:  Robin S. Socha[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent:  Tuesday, March 27, 2001 1:42 PM
>To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:   Re: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail
>
>* Tuchyna, Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> does anybody have any experience with migrating from MS-Exchange to
>> q-mail on Linux ?
>
>Will you take "yes" for an answer? You lose stuff like appointment
>management, but you get an Operating System and an MTA that works. If
>you don't want to lose that groupware functionality, take a look at HP's
>OpenMail (which uses sendmail AFAICS).
>-- 
>Robin S. Socha <http://socha.net/>
>Note to experienced users: Please don't encourage anti-support behavior.
>Don't try to answer questions from users who don't provide the necessary
>information. Guessing what they did is an incredible waste of time. (DJB)
>
>
>




Re: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail

2001-03-27 Thread Mike Jackson

"Tuchyna, Roman" wrote:
> 
> O.K., but how can that tool help it the mailboxes are on the MS-Exchange
> server and users are using just JAVA GUI of MS-Exchange ?
> 
> Thank you again!
> Roman
> 

That is left as an exercise for the motivated administrator.

Mike



RE: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail

2001-03-27 Thread Hubbard, David

Speaking of OpenMail, I've never used it but there
was a good editorial in InfoWorld two weeks ago
that talked about how great it was.  It didn't
go into detail on the product but it did say
that HP has decided to cancel future development
of it because it was obvious that OpenMail would be
an MS Exchange killer in every way and they don't
want to ruin their relationship with Microsoft.


Dave

> -Original Message-
> From: Robin S. Socha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 4:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail
> 
> 
> * Tuchyna, Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > does anybody have any experience with migrating from MS-Exchange to
> > q-mail on Linux ?
> 
> Will you take "yes" for an answer? You lose stuff like appointment
> management, but you get an Operating System and an MTA that works. If
> you don't want to lose that groupware functionality, take a 
> look at HP's
> OpenMail (which uses sendmail AFAICS).
> -- 
> Robin S. Socha <http://socha.net/>
> Note to experienced users: Please don't encourage 
> anti-support behavior.
> Don't try to answer questions from users who don't provide 
> the necessary
> information. Guessing what they did is an incredible waste of 
> time. (DJB)
> 



Re: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail

2001-03-27 Thread Robin S. Socha

* Tuchyna, Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> does anybody have any experience with migrating from MS-Exchange to
> q-mail on Linux ?

Will you take "yes" for an answer? You lose stuff like appointment
management, but you get an Operating System and an MTA that works. If
you don't want to lose that groupware functionality, take a look at HP's
OpenMail (which uses sendmail AFAICS).
-- 
Robin S. Socha <http://socha.net/>
Note to experienced users: Please don't encourage anti-support behavior.
Don't try to answer questions from users who don't provide the necessary
information. Guessing what they did is an incredible waste of time. (DJB)



RE: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail

2001-03-27 Thread Tuchyna, Roman

O.K., but how can that tool help it the mailboxes are on the MS-Exchange
server and users are using just JAVA GUI of MS-Exchange ?

Thank you again!
Roman

> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 27. marec 2001 23:34
> To: Tuchyna, Roman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail
> 
> 
> "Tuchyna, Roman" wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > does anybody have any experience with migrating from 
> MS-Exchange to q-mail
> > on Linux ?
> > 
> > Thank you in advance!
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Roman Tuchyna
> > 
> >   _
> >   Roman Tuchyna   S&T Slovakia, s.r.o.
> >   phone: +421769258111, +421769258109 Polianky 5
> >   fax: +421769258212  844 04 Bratislava
> >   E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Slovakia
> >   http://www.snt.sk
> >   _
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> Subject: 
>Finally a tool to convert Outlook to mbox
>Date: 
>Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:20:43 +0200
>   From: 
>Mike Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Finally there is a tool to convert outlook mailstores to unix format
> (mbox). One downside is that it only runs in windows (they 
> get ya comin'
> and goin'). It could be modified to alternatively output to 
> maildir, or
> the mbox2maildir script could just be ran afterwards as part 
> of the mail
> server upgrade process. 
> 
> From the KDE Kmail pages at:  http://kmail.kde.org/download.html
> 
> out2unix ---> http://www.active-com.de/out2unix/
> 
> Have Fun!
> Mike
> 



Re: migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail

2001-03-27 Thread Mike Jackson

"Tuchyna, Roman" wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> does anybody have any experience with migrating from MS-Exchange to q-mail
> on Linux ?
> 
> Thank you in advance!
> Best regards,
> 
> Roman Tuchyna
> 
>   _
>   Roman Tuchyna   S&T Slovakia, s.r.o.
>   phone: +421769258111, +421769258109 Polianky 5
>   fax: +421769258212  844 04 Bratislava
>   E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Slovakia
>   http://www.snt.sk
>   _
> 



Subject: 
   Finally a tool to convert Outlook to mbox
   Date: 
   Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:20:43 +0200
  From: 
   Mike Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Finally there is a tool to convert outlook mailstores to unix format
(mbox). One downside is that it only runs in windows (they get ya comin'
and goin'). It could be modified to alternatively output to maildir, or
the mbox2maildir script could just be ran afterwards as part of the mail
server upgrade process. 

>From the KDE Kmail pages at:  http://kmail.kde.org/download.html

out2unix ---> http://www.active-com.de/out2unix/

Have Fun!
Mike



migrating from MS Exchange to q-mail

2001-03-27 Thread Tuchyna, Roman

Hello,
does anybody have any experience with migrating from MS-Exchange to q-mail
on Linux ?

Thank you in advance!
Best regards,

Roman Tuchyna

  _
  Roman Tuchyna   S&T Slovakia, s.r.o.
  phone: +421769258111, +421769258109 Polianky 5
  fax: +421769258212  844 04 Bratislava
  E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Slovakia
  http://www.snt.sk
  _