Re: remote/roaming pop/imap users - sending email?

2001-02-15 Thread Charles Cazabon

SNFettig Listserv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The issue for me, however, is that I need to allow relaying for mobile users
 dialing into the internet from national ISPs, thus usually ending up with
 different IPs each time they dial in.)

As someone else noted, the proper setup is for your roaming users to send 
their mail through the SMTP relay provided by the ISP they are using.

However, failing that, you can use a SMTP-after-POP solution.  Check
www.qmail.org for pointers to these, especially Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl.

As a secondary note, this is one of the top FAQs, is documented in Dan's FAQ,
mentioned at qmail.org, and shows up on the mailing list vritually every week
-- including at least twice this week.  A quick search of the qmail list
archives would have turned up this same advice.  Oh, and while I'm being
negative, please try to limit your line length -- it's a bit of a pain to quote
from your original email, because it contained 300+ character lines.

Charles
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remote/roaming pop/imap users - sending email?

2001-02-14 Thread SNFettig Listserv

Perhaps I misunderstand the description of blocking relaying as described in LWQ, so 
please bear with my question.

(I'm reading:
"Most single-user and small workgroup servers can disable relaying completely, but if 
you have to support a distributed user community, you'll need a way to allow your 
users, and only your users, to use your system as a relay. This is accomplished by 
using tcpserver to set the RELAYCLIENT environment variable, which tells qmail-smtpd 
to override the rcpthosts file.

If you follow the installation instructions in this document, selective relaying will 
be enabled by default. To give a client relay access, add an entry to /etc/tcp.smtp 
like:

IP address of client:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""

and if I understand this correctly, if I know the IP of my clients, then I can allow 
them to relay messages without a problem.  The issue for me, however, is that I need 
to allow relaying for mobile users dialing into the internet from national ISPs, thus 
usually ending up with different IPs each time they dial in.)

I am setting up my server (FreeBSD 4.0, qmail-1.03, etc) to host a number of domains 
of which all of the users will be accessing their accounts via pop3 remotely.  I want 
them to be able to authenticate, get mail or authenticate, send mail - i.e. as long as 
the person has authenticated, they can send mail to users other than on the host.  The 
server is set up with mail going to a Maildir and already works for receiving mail 
from external domains.  I already tried to deal with this with vmailmgr, but ran into 
roadblocks that go way beyond my ability to solve them - I couldn't get many of the 
necessary services for vmailmgr to work, and I was successful with simply using 
checkpassword.  So, while I am finishing up the work on the server, could anyone give 
me some tips or point me in the direction of documentation that could help me in 
setting up such a service?  I am specifically looking for information on pop access 
for remote/roaming users.


Thanks,
SF



Re: remote/roaming pop/imap users - sending email?

2001-02-14 Thread Peter Cavender

The issue for me, however, is that I need to allow relaying for mobile
users dialing into the internet from national ISPs, thus usually ending 
 up with different IPs each time they dial in.)

The solution is simple, and often overlooked, and often asked on this
list.  Maybe somebody should write a "Life with email" document ;-)

If they have dialin access through a "national ISP" then that ISP most
certainly has a relaying SMTP server that they can designate in their MUA
as their SMTP server.  There is no reason on earth that they should have
to relay back through the home office server, unless their ISP sucks.

You do _NOT_ have to send outgoing mail through the machine that is your
_INCOMING_ mail server!

OK, there may be some clues in the mail header that the email was not sent
from the home office, but who cares?  These people are on the road!  If
they know how to configure a MUA than the return address will look OK and
nobody will care or notice.

--Pete




Re: remote/roaming pop/imap users - sending email?

2001-02-14 Thread SNFettig Listserv

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 up with different IPs each time they dial in.)

The solution is simple, and often overlooked, and often asked on this
list.  Maybe somebody should write a "Life with email" document ;-)

If they have dialin access through a "national ISP" then that ISP most
certainly has a relaying SMTP server that they can designate in their MUA
as their SMTP server.  There is no reason on earth that they should have
to relay back through the home office server, unless their ISP sucks.

You do _NOT_ have to send outgoing mail through the machine that is your
_INCOMING_ mail server!


Pete, 
Although I agree with your comments with regards to most of the clients (ATT 
Worldnet, for example, won't let you send through an SMTP server other than 
theirs...), the clincher is the fact that (what I so apparently left out...) for two 
of the domains in question the server is providing "mailhosting" for clients of mine 
(and it will probably grow to more).  In other words, these clients will always be 
roaming/remote.  So, I still need some way to authenticate these people so they can 
use the server as a "relay" server.

SF



RE: remote/roaming pop/imap users - sending email?

2001-02-14 Thread Sharma, Vijay Hargian
Title: RE: remote/roaming pop/imap users - sending email?





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