RE: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:____/

2001-06-27 Thread Alfonso Armenta

That didn't seem to do, apparently, I checked the correct functionality of our DNS and 
so on.

Although in my log quote I used fake addresses those were just slightly changed. The 
usual protect the innocent (not from the
regulars from this list, of course).

Actually I do remember obtaining one of those messages and log entries when I tried to 
subscribe to this list. Which would mean that
q-mail smtp daemons do give this Remote_host_said: response.

Anyone has any pointers?

The weirdest thing is that we have another qmail installation in here that does not 
receive any of those messages at all. Although I
could re-route all outgoing e-mail to it, I rather not as it is a customer system.

I am trying to figure out what is the reason for _our_ server to fail, rather than 
just patch it using another one that works...

Yet again, thanks for your time.

-Original Message-
From: Ahmad Ridha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:/


Alfonso Armenta writes:

 new msg 2703468
 info msg 2703468: bytes 4430 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 28506 uid 502
 starting delivery 106109: msg 2703468 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 status: local 0/100 remote 1/100
 delivery 106109: failure: 
Connected_to_195.98.97.5_but_sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:/
 status: local 0/100 remote 0/100
 bounce msg 2703468 qp 28512
 end msg 2703468

 Apparently this is 'random' error.

 The user then gets a bounce like this:

 Connected to 195.98.97.5 but sender was rejected.
 Remote host said: 

 --- Below this line is a copy of the message.

 Any clues/hints?


Is your fqdn valid (known to the Internet)? I experienced the error when
experimenting with my first qmail installation using unknown fqdn and the
destination host did domain checking. I noticed usa.net and stupid.com were
some of such ones.

Regards,

Ahmad Ridha




Re: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:____/

2001-06-27 Thread Charles Cazabon

Alfonso Armenta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Although in my log quote I used fake addresses those were just slightly
 changed. The usual protect the innocent (not from the regulars from this
 list, of course).
 
 Actually I do remember obtaining one of those messages and log entries when
 I tried to subscribe to this list. Which would mean that q-mail smtp daemons
 do give this Remote_host_said: response.

sender was rejected usually means that the remote SMTP server issued a 5xx
or 4xx code after the MAIL FROM: command.  This can be due to DNS problems
when remote sites use bogus anti-spam measures.

You'll also see this with some sites that reject empty envelope senders (i.e.,
you can't send a bounce to them).

In general, sites that use either of these strategies aren't worth sending
mail to.

Charles
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GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
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Re: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:____/

2001-06-27 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 10:33:32AM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:
 Alfonso Armenta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Although in my log quote I used fake addresses those were just slightly
  changed. The usual protect the innocent (not from the regulars from this
  list, of course).
  
  Actually I do remember obtaining one of those messages and log entries when
  I tried to subscribe to this list. Which would mean that q-mail smtp daemons
  do give this Remote_host_said: response.
 
 sender was rejected usually means that the remote SMTP server issued a 5xx
 or 4xx code after the MAIL FROM: command.  This can be due to DNS problems
 when remote sites use bogus anti-spam measures.

(or) badmailfrom. (you could consider that bogus too :)

 You'll also see this with some sites that reject empty envelope senders (i.e.,
 you can't send a bounce to them).

http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/

Greetz, Peter
-- 
Against Free Sex!   http://www.dataloss.nl/Megahard_en.html



sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:____/

2001-06-21 Thread Alfonso Armenta

Hi!

I've been searching through the list without any luck in finding what this error 
actually means. See some slightly tweaked extract
from our qmail logs:

 new msg 2703468
 info msg 2703468: bytes 4430 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 28506 uid 502
 starting delivery 106109: msg 2703468 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 status: local 0/100 remote 1/100
 delivery 106109: failure: 
Connected_to_195.98.97.5_but_sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:/
 status: local 0/100 remote 0/100
 bounce msg 2703468 qp 28512
 end msg 2703468

Apparently this is 'random' error.

The user then gets a bounce like this:

Connected to 195.98.97.5 but sender was rejected.
Remote host said: 

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Any clues/hints?

Thanks in advance,

Alfonso Armenta.




Re: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:____/

2001-06-21 Thread Ahmad Ridha

Alfonso Armenta writes: 

 new msg 2703468
 info msg 2703468: bytes 4430 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 28506 uid 502
 starting delivery 106109: msg 2703468 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 status: local 0/100 remote 1/100
 delivery 106109: failure: 
Connected_to_195.98.97.5_but_sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:/
 status: local 0/100 remote 0/100
 bounce msg 2703468 qp 28512
 end msg 2703468
 
 Apparently this is 'random' error. 
 
 The user then gets a bounce like this: 
 
 Connected to 195.98.97.5 but sender was rejected.
 Remote host said:  
 
 --- Below this line is a copy of the message. 
 
 Any clues/hints? 
 

Is your fqdn valid (known to the Internet)? I experienced the error when 
experimenting with my first qmail installation using unknown fqdn and the 
destination host did domain checking. I noticed usa.net and stupid.com were 
some of such ones. 

Regards, 

Ahmad Ridha