Re: what can be done about 'in order to have your advice...'

2001-07-25 Thread Paulo Jan

 Can anyone help me figure out a way to handle this recent virus?
 
 It typically tags email in body:
'...in order to have your advice...'
 
 and sends random attachments .2 to 2Mb in size.
 
 We're getting a lot of these already, and I'm worried
 that a flood will jam us up, amounting to a DOS.  At the very
 least, this is going to cost us a lot of bandwidth $$$.
 
 Seems to me the only way to stop it is to scan the body before
 the mail is accepted.  Yeech.  And as soon as we get variations on
 '...in order to have your advice...' it will be just about
 indistinguishable from normal email with attachments.
 

Seems to me that the main feature of this virus isn't the text, but
the fact that the attachments that it sends always have two extensions:
.xls.bat, .doc.lnk and so on. This way, it tricks Windows lusers who
have the hide extensions option turned on into clicking on them. So
you could write a script to look at the name of the attachments and look
for the ones that follow that pattern.
(Aside, of course, of checking out the patches that antivirus vendors
must be putting out...)



Paulo Jan.
DDnet.



Re: what can be done about 'in order to have your advice...'

2001-07-25 Thread Magnus Bodin

On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 10:58:10AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Can anyone help me figure out a way to handle this recent virus?
 
 It typically tags email in body:
'...in order to have your advice...'
 
 and sends random attachments .2 to 2Mb in size.

Deliver with procmail.
And use these measures:

http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html

You can't block it inwards however so the incoming SMTP load
won't be helped by this. But you won't spread it. 

/magnus

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Re: what can be done about 'in order to have your advice...'

2001-07-25 Thread Robin S. Socha

On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 09:33:35AM +0200, Paulo Jan wrote:

 Seems to me that the main feature of this virus isn't the text, but
 the fact that the attachments that it sends always have two extensions:
 .xls.bat, .doc.lnk and so on. This way, it tricks Windows lusers who
 have the hide extensions option turned on into clicking on them. 

You got something backwards there. The problem isn't the users. The
problem is the operating system and its vendor who stubbornly refuses
to distribute a systems that offers even minimum security. In short:
if you use Windows, you are an idiot - but you wouldn't have to be an
idiot with data loss or an idiot being part of a DDoS attack (anyone
seen any in the wild, really? cf. http://www.fefe.de/ddos.html) if it
weren't for that marketing department turned software giant.

N.B., anyone tried MS's solution to the problem (i.e. the Office
patch)? It basically renders Outlook useless. Eh. Wait. Make that
even more useless. Good work.

 So you could write a script to look at the name of the attachments
 and look for the ones that follow that pattern.

Boring. I see no reason why virus authors, once identified, should be
allowed to live.:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20010724/tc/death_to_virus_writers__1.html

 (Aside, of course, of checking out the patches that antivirus vendors
 must be putting out...)

Ah yes, our friends and saviours from the other end of the gutter.
Interesting to let the last 10 or so years pass by and wonder - and I
mean *really* wonder - how anyone could be so unbelievably stupid to
run software that has never worked *and* pay additional money to a
bunch of hippies investing their time and (limited) programming skills
into ways to make money by selling hacks and workarounds for a B.A.D.
OS instead of improving this OS. Ooops. Closed source. Embrace and
anally rape.  Pity. Anyway, if I were a virus vendor, I'd sacrifice
virgins by the dozen hoping that Microsoft never, ever hires competent
programmers.

Reply-to set. WTF has this virus crap got to do on this list?
qmail-scanner lists exists and your problem has nothing to do with
Unix.



Re: what can be done about 'in order to have your advice...'

2001-07-25 Thread Jost Krieger

On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 10:58:10AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Can anyone help me figure out a way to handle this recent virus?
 
 It typically tags email in body:
'...in order to have your advice...'
 
 and sends random attachments .2 to 2Mb in size.
 
 We're getting a lot of these already, and I'm worried
 that a flood will jam us up, amounting to a DOS.  At the very
 least, this is going to cost us a lot of bandwidth $$$.
 
 Seems to me the only way to stop it is to scan the body before 
 the mail is accepted.  Yeech.  And as soon as we get variations on
 '...in order to have your advice...' it will be just about
 indistinguishable from normal email with attachments.

If it helps, I process the header with

^Content-Type:.*_Outlook_Express_message_boundary   virus   W32/Sircam-A-Virus

Now just find a place to put that (my implementation is not site-portable).

And no, it won't block real Outlook Express mails.

Jost
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what can be done about 'in order to have your advice...'

2001-07-24 Thread cfm


Can anyone help me figure out a way to handle this recent virus?

It typically tags email in body:
   '...in order to have your advice...'

and sends random attachments .2 to 2Mb in size.

We're getting a lot of these already, and I'm worried
that a flood will jam us up, amounting to a DOS.  At the very
least, this is going to cost us a lot of bandwidth $$$.

Seems to me the only way to stop it is to scan the body before 
the mail is accepted.  Yeech.  And as soon as we get variations on
'...in order to have your advice...' it will be just about
indistinguishable from normal email with attachments.

All I can think of is setting up a colocated MX where bandwidth
is cheap and filtering all mail there, then accepting only from
that IP.  Hmmm, is there a mailscrubber.com ASP that provides that 
service reliably?

cfm

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