Re: Merits of using MySQL (Was: Looping tcprules issue solved)

2000-08-25 Thread Ken Jones


cdb will perform much faster than mysql on lookups. On additions or
modifications, it gets significantly slower as the number of users
go above 10,000. 

From what I can see, the benifits of mysql are:
1) Other programs who talk mysql can interact with the mail user tables
2) Inserts and modifications are significantly faster for large sites
3) Authentication services can be distributed across machines without
   the need for NFS. (Kind of a moot point tho, since the user
directories
   would need to be available via NFS)

If you read dan bernstiens page on cdb code, it gives stats on how
fast it can perform read operations. Very efficent ;]

Ken Jones

Ryan Hayle wrote:
 
 On that note--what is the real benefit of using MySQL?  I'm running it now,
 and things are working fine, but I'm afraid of the load problem you
 described before...  Does MySQL offer a significant performance gain?  I
 doubt we'll -ever- have over 1000 users (we don't even have 100 now), and so
 it's not that important.  I used to be running exim on a 486 with gnu-pop3d
 and it worked quite well, no performance issues whatsoever.
 
 Thoughts?  Ideas?  Suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
 Ryan Hayle
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Garvas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, 23 August, 2000 10:45
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Looping tcprules issue "solved"
 
 I converted my entire MySQL "small" system back to cdb format last night.
 
 I had to recompile vpopmail and qmailadmin, but my load average on my
 system is back to an amazing 0.00 and everything is working fine.
 
 Is anyone aware of a bug in the MySQL workings of either qmailadmin,
 vpopmail or something else which was causing this?
 
 I would at some time like to convert back to a MySQL based system if the
 problem is solved.
 
 -Jeff



Re: Merits of using MySQL (Was: Looping tcprules issue solved)

2000-08-23 Thread Ben Beuchler

On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 02:27:59PM -0500, Ryan Hayle wrote:

 On that note--what is the real benefit of using MySQL?  I'm running it
 now, and things are working fine, but I'm afraid of the load problem
 you described before...  Does MySQL offer a significant performance
 gain?  I doubt we'll -ever- have over 1000 users (we don't even have
 100 now), and so it's not that important.  I used to be running exim
 on a 486 with gnu-pop3d and it worked quite well, no performance
 issues whatsoever.

Because databases are cool.  Everything should be run off a database.

Ben

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Re: Merits of using MySQL (Was: Looping tcprules issue solved)

2000-08-23 Thread Chris Fankhauser

Database good, napster bad!

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Chris "$something_witty" Fankhauser
Bitstream Underground

On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Ben Beuchler wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 02:27:59PM -0500, Ryan Hayle wrote:
 
  On that note--what is the real benefit of using MySQL?  I'm running it
  now, and things are working fine, but I'm afraid of the load problem
  you described before...  Does MySQL offer a significant performance
  gain?  I doubt we'll -ever- have over 1000 users (we don't even have
  100 now), and so it's not that important.  I used to be running exim
  on a 486 with gnu-pop3d and it worked quite well, no performance
  issues whatsoever.
 
 Because databases are cool.  Everything should be run off a database.
 
 Ben
 
 -- 
 Ben Beuchler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MAILER-DAEMON (612) 321-9290 x101
 Bitstream Underground   www.bitstream.net
 




Re: Merits of using MySQL (Was: Looping tcprules issue solved)

2000-08-23 Thread Daniel E. Jackson

I don't see the need either.  I have several thousand users among 400 domains, running 
off a 1/2 GB PII, with no problems whatsoever.  I rarely see a load average higher 
than .7.

In addition, the server mirror's itself 3 times a day to another server that can be 
configured on the fly to take over, if necessary.  Qmail is way cool...

Dan

Ben Beuchler wrote:
 
 On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 02:27:59PM -0500, Ryan Hayle wrote:
 
  On that note--what is the real benefit of using MySQL?  I'm running it
  now, and things are working fine, but I'm afraid of the load problem
  you described before...  Does MySQL offer a significant performance
  gain?  I doubt we'll -ever- have over 1000 users (we don't even have
  100 now), and so it's not that important.  I used to be running exim
  on a 486 with gnu-pop3d and it worked quite well, no performance
  issues whatsoever.
 
 Because databases are cool.  Everything should be run off a database.
 
 Ben
 
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 MAILER-DAEMON (612) 321-9290 x101
 Bitstream Underground   www.bitstream.net

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