[qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

2008-11-07 Thread Kent Busbee
Ok, this has been bugging me a bit...

I keep getting duplicate emails from the list.  I seem to recall others
complaining of this recently, so it that tells me it may not be my qmail
box.  However, I did update last week and then updated spamdyke from 3 to
4.  I had a prob before with dups, which was fixed by increasing the
idle-timeout in spamdyke.comf.  And again after updating spamdyke I had to
up the idle-timeout from 60 to 660 because of dups to everyone.  Since
then only occasional dups from this list, just enough to annoy me.

Is is me or the list, or perhaps even those sending to it?  Maybe the list
server needs to up its idle timeout?

I thought spamdyke 4 fixed the idle problem, was I wrong to up the time to
660?


Kent Busbee
Director of Technology
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RE: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation - centos5.2

2008-11-07 Thread Marco Cordeiro
All , can I use qtp-newmodel to did a fresh installation ??

Regards, Marco.

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Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation - centos5.2

Marco Cordeiro wrote:
  
 
 Guys , I'm start a fresh installation qmailtoaster (centos5.2)
 
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/CentOS_5_QmailToaster_Install
 
  
 
 And I have two doubts :
 
  
 
 The script for deps at 
 http://www.qmailtoaster.com/centos/cnt50/cnt50-deps.sh
 
  
 
 Have packages not found
 
  
 
 No package compat-libf2c available.
 
 No package compat-libgcc available.
 
 No package compat-libsdc++-33 available.
 
  
 
 And the other one http://www.qmailtoaster.com/centos/cnt50/cnt50-perl.sh
 
  
 
 Still use CPAN instead rpmforge !
 
 if I remember we need use yum to install perl packages.
 
  
 
 Is there any other new scripts to do a fresh install ???
 
  
 
 Regards,
 
  
 
 []
 
 Marco Cordeiro
 

I really don't know the status of the install scripts.
Here's what I have on a current COS5 toaster:

$ rpm -qa | grep ^compat
compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-138
compat-glibc-headers-2.3.4-2.26
compat-gcc-34-3.4.6-4
compat-gcc-34-c++-3.4.6-4
compat-glibc-2.3.4-2.26

I do have rpmforge repo enabled on that toaster.

I wouldn't use CPAN, but if you do, be sure not to update CPAN itself. 
Doing so will give you a MakeMaker version (v6.44 IIRC) that doesn't 
work with the present spamassassin-toaster spec file.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation - centos5.2

2008-11-07 Thread Eric Shubert
Good question. I don't know why not, although I'm not sure anyone has 
tried it. Please give it a go if you can, and I'll try to fix anything 
that doesn't work quite right.


Note, qtp-newmodel does not handle *all* dependencies, just the more 
recent ones. I suppose that rpm will tell you if you're missing any though.


Marco Cordeiro wrote:

All , can I use qtp-newmodel to did a fresh installation ??

Regards, Marco.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:49 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation - centos5.2

Marco Cordeiro wrote:
 


Guys , I'm start a fresh installation qmailtoaster (centos5.2)

http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/CentOS_5_QmailToaster_Install

 


And I have two doubts :

 

The script for deps at 
http://www.qmailtoaster.com/centos/cnt50/cnt50-deps.sh


 


Have packages not found

 


No package compat-libf2c available.

No package compat-libgcc available.

No package compat-libsdc++-33 available.

 


And the other one http://www.qmailtoaster.com/centos/cnt50/cnt50-perl.sh

 


Still use CPAN instead rpmforge !

if I remember we need use yum to install perl packages.

 


Is there any other new scripts to do a fresh install ???

 


Regards,

 


[]

Marco Cordeiro



I really don't know the status of the install scripts.
Here's what I have on a current COS5 toaster:

$ rpm -qa | grep ^compat
compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-138
compat-glibc-headers-2.3.4-2.26
compat-gcc-34-3.4.6-4
compat-gcc-34-c++-3.4.6-4
compat-glibc-2.3.4-2.26

I do have rpmforge repo enabled on that toaster.

I wouldn't use CPAN, but if you do, be sure not to update CPAN itself. 
Doing so will give you a MakeMaker version (v6.44 IIRC) that doesn't 
work with the present spamassassin-toaster spec file.





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RE: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

2008-11-07 Thread Phil Leinhauser
Lol  the problem is not on your side.  We're all getting dupes or triples even. 
 The listserve is having a problem.

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From: Kent Busbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:55 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

Ok, this has been bugging me a bit...

I keep getting duplicate emails from the list.  I seem to recall others
complaining of this recently, so it that tells me it may not be my qmail
box.  However, I did update last week and then updated spamdyke from 3 to
4.  I had a prob before with dups, which was fixed by increasing the
idle-timeout in spamdyke.comf.  And again after updating spamdyke I had to
up the idle-timeout from 60 to 660 because of dups to everyone.  Since
then only occasional dups from this list, just enough to annoy me.

Is is me or the list, or perhaps even those sending to it?  Maybe the list
server needs to up its idle timeout?

I thought spamdyke 4 fixed the idle problem, was I wrong to up the time to
660?


Kent Busbee
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Northlake Christian School


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

2008-11-07 Thread Phil Leinhauser
Lol  the problem is not on your side.  We're all getting dupes or triples even. 
 The listserve is having a problem.

-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:55 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

Ok, this has been bugging me a bit...

I keep getting duplicate emails from the list.  I seem to recall others
complaining of this recently, so it that tells me it may not be my qmail
box.  However, I did update last week and then updated spamdyke from 3 to
4.  I had a prob before with dups, which was fixed by increasing the
idle-timeout in spamdyke.comf.  And again after updating spamdyke I had to
up the idle-timeout from 60 to 660 because of dups to everyone.  Since
then only occasional dups from this list, just enough to annoy me.

Is is me or the list, or perhaps even those sending to it?  Maybe the list
server needs to up its idle timeout?

I thought spamdyke 4 fixed the idle problem, was I wrong to up the time to
660?


Kent Busbee
Director of Technology
Northlake Christian School


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

2008-11-07 Thread Jake Vickers

Kent Busbee wrote:

Ok, this has been bugging me a bit...

I keep getting duplicate emails from the list.  I seem to recall others
complaining of this recently, so it that tells me it may not be my qmail
box.  However, I did update last week and then updated spamdyke from 3 to
4.  I had a prob before with dups, which was fixed by increasing the
idle-timeout in spamdyke.comf.  And again after updating spamdyke I had to
up the idle-timeout from 60 to 660 because of dups to everyone.  Since
then only occasional dups from this list, just enough to annoy me.

Is is me or the list, or perhaps even those sending to it?  Maybe the list
server needs to up its idle timeout?
  


It's just this list. Rather the server running it.  I've made Erik 
Espinoza aware, since he's the only one with access to the mail server 
that this list runs on.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

2008-11-07 Thread Eric Shubert

Kent Busbee wrote:

Ok, this has been bugging me a bit...

I keep getting duplicate emails from the list.  I seem to recall others
complaining of this recently, so it that tells me it may not be my qmail
box.  However, I did update last week and then updated spamdyke from 3 to
4.  I had a prob before with dups, which was fixed by increasing the
idle-timeout in spamdyke.comf.  And again after updating spamdyke I had to
up the idle-timeout from 60 to 660 because of dups to everyone.  Since
then only occasional dups from this list, just enough to annoy me.

Is is me or the list, or perhaps even those sending to it?  Maybe the list
server needs to up its idle timeout?

I thought spamdyke 4 fixed the idle problem, was I wrong to up the time to
660?


Kent Busbee
Director of Technology
Northlake Christian School



Are you using bayes-auto-expire? (/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf) That 
might be causing timeouts when it kicks in. Upping spamdyke's 
idle-timeout might fix that.


AFA the list server is concerned, it appears to have issues.
Erik Espinoza needs to look into that.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

2008-11-07 Thread PakOgah

I dont have spamdyke installed on my server, yet I rcvd doubles.
and I thought the sender was sending couple of times to make sure the 
list read his email :D


Kent Busbee wrote:

Ok, this has been bugging me a bit...

I keep getting duplicate emails from the list.  I seem to recall others
complaining of this recently, so it that tells me it may not be my qmail
box.  However, I did update last week and then updated spamdyke from 3 to
4.  I had a prob before with dups, which was fixed by increasing the
idle-timeout in spamdyke.comf.  And again after updating spamdyke I had to
up the idle-timeout from 60 to 660 because of dups to everyone.  Since
then only occasional dups from this list, just enough to annoy me.

Is is me or the list, or perhaps even those sending to it?  Maybe the list
server needs to up its idle timeout?

I thought spamdyke 4 fixed the idle problem, was I wrong to up the time to
660?


  



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RE: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

2008-11-07 Thread Phil Leinhauser
Lol  the problem is not on your side.  We're all getting dupes or triples even. 
 The listserve is having a problem.

-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:55 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

Ok, this has been bugging me a bit...

I keep getting duplicate emails from the list.  I seem to recall others
complaining of this recently, so it that tells me it may not be my qmail
box.  However, I did update last week and then updated spamdyke from 3 to
4.  I had a prob before with dups, which was fixed by increasing the
idle-timeout in spamdyke.comf.  And again after updating spamdyke I had to
up the idle-timeout from 60 to 660 because of dups to everyone.  Since
then only occasional dups from this list, just enough to annoy me.

Is is me or the list, or perhaps even those sending to it?  Maybe the list
server needs to up its idle timeout?

I thought spamdyke 4 fixed the idle problem, was I wrong to up the time to
660?


Kent Busbee
Director of Technology
Northlake Christian School


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

2008-11-07 Thread Phil Leinhauser
Lol  the problem is not on your side.  We're all getting dupes or triples even. 
 The listserve is having a problem.

-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:55 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

Ok, this has been bugging me a bit...

I keep getting duplicate emails from the list.  I seem to recall others
complaining of this recently, so it that tells me it may not be my qmail
box.  However, I did update last week and then updated spamdyke from 3 to
4.  I had a prob before with dups, which was fixed by increasing the
idle-timeout in spamdyke.comf.  And again after updating spamdyke I had to
up the idle-timeout from 60 to 660 because of dups to everyone.  Since
then only occasional dups from this list, just enough to annoy me.

Is is me or the list, or perhaps even those sending to it?  Maybe the list
server needs to up its idle timeout?

I thought spamdyke 4 fixed the idle problem, was I wrong to up the time to
660?


Kent Busbee
Director of Technology
Northlake Christian School


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

2008-11-07 Thread Phil Leinhauser
Lol  the problem is not on your side.  We're all getting dupes or triples even. 
 The listserve is having a problem.

-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:55 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

Ok, this has been bugging me a bit...

I keep getting duplicate emails from the list.  I seem to recall others
complaining of this recently, so it that tells me it may not be my qmail
box.  However, I did update last week and then updated spamdyke from 3 to
4.  I had a prob before with dups, which was fixed by increasing the
idle-timeout in spamdyke.comf.  And again after updating spamdyke I had to
up the idle-timeout from 60 to 660 because of dups to everyone.  Since
then only occasional dups from this list, just enough to annoy me.

Is is me or the list, or perhaps even those sending to it?  Maybe the list
server needs to up its idle timeout?

I thought spamdyke 4 fixed the idle problem, was I wrong to up the time to
660?


Kent Busbee
Director of Technology
Northlake Christian School


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

2008-11-07 Thread Michael Handiboe

Phil Leinhauser wrote:

Lol  the problem is not on your side.  We're all getting dupes or triples even. 
 The listserve is having a problem.


.lol. yeah a mail server with an 'echo' ...
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

2008-11-07 Thread Eric Shubert

Just to be clear, if you get duplicates from this list, just ignore them.

If you get duplicates from somewhere else, you probably have a problem. 
 Spamassassin's bayes auto-expire function can cause timeouts on slower 
hosts. Spamdyke might be used to remedy this situation (spamdyke is not 
the cause), but the best solution is to turn off spamassassin's 
auto-expire funtion, and run an auto-expire script with cron.


HTH.

PakOgah wrote:

I dont have spamdyke installed on my server, yet I rcvd doubles.
and I thought the sender was sending couple of times to make sure the 
list read his email :D


Kent Busbee wrote:

Ok, this has been bugging me a bit...

I keep getting duplicate emails from the list.  I seem to recall others
complaining of this recently, so it that tells me it may not be my qmail
box.  However, I did update last week and then updated spamdyke from 3 to
4.  I had a prob before with dups, which was fixed by increasing the
idle-timeout in spamdyke.comf.  And again after updating spamdyke I 
had to

up the idle-timeout from 60 to 660 because of dups to everyone.  Since
then only occasional dups from this list, just enough to annoy me.

Is is me or the list, or perhaps even those sending to it?  Maybe the 
list

server needs to up its idle timeout?

I thought spamdyke 4 fixed the idle problem, was I wrong to up the 
time to

660?





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RE: [qmailtoaster] SpamAssassin whitelist_from is bypassed sometime

2008-11-07 Thread Kaven Gagnon
Thanks everyone for your answers.  I did not modify anything and it seems
to be working now... weird!


Regards,
Kaven G.


 They have changed the formatting on the whitelist variable.  It is was
 whitelist_from now it is def_whitelist_from_rcvd or def_whitelist_from.
 Once I changed mine it worked just fine.

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 From: Kent Busbee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:21 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] SpamAssassin whitelist_from is bypassed
 sometime


 See response below; Kaven Gagnon wrote:
 Hi Eric,

 @4000490aec170a635ed4 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:: remote
 tomts31-srv.bellnexxia.net:unknown:209.226.175.105 rcpt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] : found existing recipient
 @4000490aec172428011c simscan:[24762]:SPAM REJECT
 (6.10/3.95):0.4125s:***SPAM***
 :209.226.175.105:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 @4000490aec17242814a4 qmail-smtpd: qq hard reject (Your email is
 considered spam (6.10 spam-hits)): MAILFROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 RCPTTO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I do not use SpamDyke.

 Thanks,
 Kaven G.

 Kaven Gagnon wrote:
 Hi,

 I got email addresses listed in whitelist_from still rejected as
 spam.
 This is like a intermittent problem...

 The spam reject do not come from blocking lists.

 Any idea?

 Thanks,
 Kaven G.

 Need a few more details, Kaven.
 What sort of rejection message are you seeing?
 What's the full path of whitelist_from (spamassassin or spamdyke)?

 SA could still reject anything in a SD whitelist. They're totally
 separate.

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 Take a look at qmlog spamd, this should give more info as to why it was
 rejected, and tell if it hit the whitelist.  I also would check the
 format
 or your whitelist command in your .cf file.  Which file do you use and
 where is it?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

2008-11-07 Thread Kent Busbee
Thanks for the 6 responses and the 9 duplicates (LOL) to my question.  I
see that the problem is not on my end.  I am not using auto-expire. 
Must/should I have the cron job?  I do not have it either.

See response above; Eric Shubert wrote:
 Just to be clear, if you get duplicates from this list, just ignore
them.

 If you get duplicates from somewhere else, you probably have a problem.
   Spamassassin's bayes auto-expire function can cause timeouts on slower
 hosts. Spamdyke might be used to remedy this situation (spamdyke is not
the cause), but the best solution is to turn off spamassassin's
 auto-expire funtion, and run an auto-expire script with cron.

 HTH.

 PakOgah wrote:
 I dont have spamdyke installed on my server, yet I rcvd doubles. and I
thought the sender was sending couple of times to make sure the list
read his email :D
 Kent Busbee wrote:
 Ok, this has been bugging me a bit...
 I keep getting duplicate emails from the list.  I seem to recall
others
 complaining of this recently, so it that tells me it may not be my qmail
 box.  However, I did update last week and then updated spamdyke from 3 to
 4.  I had a prob before with dups, which was fixed by increasing the
idle-timeout in spamdyke.comf.  And again after updating spamdyke I
had to
 up the idle-timeout from 60 to 660 because of dups to everyone.  Since
then only occasional dups from this list, just enough to annoy me. Is
is me or the list, or perhaps even those sending to it?  Maybe the
list
 server needs to up its idle timeout?
 I thought spamdyke 4 fixed the idle problem, was I wrong to up the
time to
 660?


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Dups from the list

2008-11-07 Thread Eric Shubert

Must, no. Should, yes. Here is the cron job:

# cat /etc/cron.daily/sa-bayes-expire
#!/bin/sh
# written 11/17/06 by Eric 'shubes' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# force journal sync and expiration of spamassassin bayes database
#
sa-learn -u vpopmail --force-expire
chown vpopmail:vchkpw /home/vpopmail/.spamassassin/bayes_toks
#

Kent Busbee wrote:

Thanks for the 6 responses and the 9 duplicates (LOL) to my question.  I
see that the problem is not on my end.  I am not using auto-expire. 
Must/should I have the cron job?  I do not have it either.


See response above; Eric Shubert wrote:

Just to be clear, if you get duplicates from this list, just ignore

them.

If you get duplicates from somewhere else, you probably have a problem.
  Spamassassin's bayes auto-expire function can cause timeouts on slower
hosts. Spamdyke might be used to remedy this situation (spamdyke is not

the cause), but the best solution is to turn off spamassassin's

auto-expire funtion, and run an auto-expire script with cron.

HTH.

PakOgah wrote:

I dont have spamdyke installed on my server, yet I rcvd doubles. and I

thought the sender was sending couple of times to make sure the list
read his email :D

Kent Busbee wrote:

Ok, this has been bugging me a bit...
I keep getting duplicate emails from the list.  I seem to recall

others

complaining of this recently, so it that tells me it may not be my qmail
box.  However, I did update last week and then updated spamdyke from 3 to
4.  I had a prob before with dups, which was fixed by increasing the

idle-timeout in spamdyke.comf.  And again after updating spamdyke I
had to

up the idle-timeout from 60 to 660 because of dups to everyone.  Since

then only occasional dups from this list, just enough to annoy me. Is
is me or the list, or perhaps even those sending to it?  Maybe the
list

server needs to up its idle timeout?
I thought spamdyke 4 fixed the idle problem, was I wrong to up the

time to

660?


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