Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Security
Phil Leinhauser wrote: I think you might be talking about vmware in general? This was mainly talking about doing snapshots in VM. Yes, I was. That's what you get from a thread-hijacker! ;) - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Virtual QMT
So let's change the thread and explore yours a bit... I'd be interested in where virtual QMTs choke. Is it IO, proc, mem? Maybe too many other guests? While I only have about 1/2 of your 500 user choke point, I get very good performance from my VM server based QMT. I did have issues before I found some of the tuning points that I'm documenting in the wiki. I've been running some sort of VM in my small business since the days of GSX and in work I have a very large install of ESX / vSphere. I do know things like heavily used databases and the like don't run too well virtualized. I'd be interested to see if the QMT limit is something that can be overcome? I saw your discussion a few days ago with Eric about slow virtual performance but you said that was with something other than VM? Phil Phil Leinhauser wrote: I think you might be talking about vmware in general? This was mainly talking about doing snapshots in VM. Yes, I was. That's what you get from a thread-hijacker! ;)
[qmailtoaster] question about simscan, clamd and qmail
Hi, Today I received a suspicious report.zip file with a report.exe attachement. At first I thought that clamav is not up to date: checked it: works and is up to date: [r...@pcintelw01 clamd]# freshclam ClamAV update process started at Tue Feb 9 15:09:10 2010 main.cvd is up to date (version: 51, sigs: 545035, f-level: 42, builder: sven) daily.cld is up to date (version: 10371, sigs: 163572, f-level: 44, builder: ccordes) When I scan the report.zip with Xclamav (clamav gui for os x) it finds a nasty trojan: Starting scan… --- SCAN SUMMARY --- Known viruses: 707886 Engine version: 0.95.3 Scanned directories: 0 Scanned files: 1 Infected files: 1 Data scanned: 0.02 MB Data read: 0.01 MB (ratio 3.00:1) Time: 2.640 sec (0 m 2 s) One or more infected files were found, but were left where they are. You can either deal with them yourself, or scan again with the preferences set to move them into a different folder. Trojan.Bredolab-573 But the same open source clamav on my mailserver does not find it when I send the message with the report.zip ? Then I tried to send the zipped eicar test message: found by my mailserver.. Does anyone know why the report.zip is found by my CLamXav on OSX using the same engine as the clamd version I use by qmail-toaster and my mailserver isn't? Simscan/clamd is seeing it as ok: @40004b716917146d7ff4 /var/qmail/simscan/1265723661.274561.31634/eicarcom2.zip: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND @40004b71693e2c0f617c /var/qmail/simscan/1265723700.530689.31662/report.zip: OK Any help is much appreciated as I don't want any virusses slipping through :) Kind regards, Michiel - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] question about simscan, clamd and qmail
Dnia 2010-02-09, o godz. 15:13:29 Michiel van Es m...@pcintelligence.nl napisał(a): @40004b71693e2c0f617c /var/qmail/simscan/1265723700.530689.31662/report.zip: OK Any help is much appreciated as I don't want any virusses slipping through :) Maybe zip archive is not scanned. Check config option ScanArchive,should be set yes. -- Pozdrawiam / Regards, Aleksander Podsiadły mail: a...@westside.kielce.pl jid: a...@jabber.westside.kielce.pl ICQ: 201121279 gg: 9150578 N:50.88409 S:20.58425 - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Security
Jake Vickers wrote: Phil Leinhauser wrote: I think you might be talking about vmware in general? This was mainly talking about doing snapshots in VM. Yes, I was. That's what you get from a thread-hijacker! ;) - Hehehe. Yeah, I wasn't very clear on that. My bad. I wasn't sold on snapshots, but Phil has clarified things for me. They are very nice, but you want to leave them off during normal operations. I do not have a problem with running VMs in production. They do require a bit of tuning however. Running them on older cpus that do not contain specific virtualization features can result in additional overhead that will affect performance. Jake, I'm guessing here, but virtual guests can/will run with near bare-iron performance as long as the workload is primarily in user space. When privileged (system) instructions are required, either Binary Translation or hardware paravirtualization is required to perform these operations for the guest. This would include creating new processes in the guest, which I'm guessing is where QMT is taking a performance hit. In order to get over that apparent 500 user threshold, I would be sure that the host system has a cpu which supports paravirtualization (VT-x or AMD-V), that's it's turned on in the bios (not on by default in many systems), and that the QMT guest is actually using it (check the guest vmware log). -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] question about simscan, clamd and qmail
Hi Is set to scan Archive. Regards Michiel van Es Op 9 feb 2010 om 16:17 heeft Aleksander Podsiadły a...@westside.kielce.p l het volgende geschreven:\ Dnia 2010-02-09, o godz. 15:13:29 Michiel van Es m...@pcintelligence.nl napisał(a): @40004b71693e2c0f617c /var/qmail/simscan/1265723700.530689.31662/report.zip: OK Any help is much appreciated as I don't want any virusses slipping through :) Maybe zip archive is not scanned. Check config option ScanArchive,should be set yes. -- Pozdrawiam / Regards, Aleksander Podsiadły mail: a...@westside.kielce.pl jid: a...@jabber.westside.kielce.pl ICQ: 201121279 gg: 9150578 N:50.88409 S:20.58425 --- --- --- --- - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com ) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! --- --- --- --- - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Virtual QMT
Sorry, Phil. I posted reply to Jake before I read this. BTW, when you change a thread, please create a new message (copy/paste content as appropriate) instead of replying and changing the subject. When you look at messages in threaded view (nice feature btw), this isn't a new thread, only a changed subject. :( Common mistake. Phil Leinhauser wrote: So let's change the thread and explore yours a bit... I'd be interested in where virtual QMTs choke. Is it IO, proc, mem? Maybe too many other guests? While I only have about 1/2 of your 500 user choke point, I get very good performance from my VM server based QMT. I did have issues before I found some of the tuning points that I'm documenting in the wiki. I've been running some sort of VM in my small business since the days of GSX and in work I have a very large install of ESX / vSphere. I do know things like heavily used databases and the like don't run too well virtualized. I'd be interested to see if the QMT limit is something that can be overcome? Me too. I think/feel/hope there's a way to improve on that. FWIW, I talked with a company a year or so ago that was running Oracle in virtual guests, and they had managed to obtain satisfactory performance. They didn't go into specifics, so I don't know how they did it. Can be done though I believe. I saw your discussion a few days ago with Eric about slow virtual performance but you said that was with something other than VM? That was one Xen server. I don't know about the others he was working on though. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: question about simscan, clamd and qmail
Good guess Aleksander. I think I'd ask the clamav community about this. Please keep us apprised of what you find. Michiel van Es wrote: Hi, Today I received a suspicious report.zip file with a report.exe attachement. At first I thought that clamav is not up to date: checked it: works and is up to date: [r...@pcintelw01 clamd]# freshclam ClamAV update process started at Tue Feb 9 15:09:10 2010 main.cvd is up to date (version: 51, sigs: 545035, f-level: 42, builder: sven) daily.cld is up to date (version: 10371, sigs: 163572, f-level: 44, builder: ccordes) When I scan the report.zip with Xclamav (clamav gui for os x) it finds a nasty trojan: Starting scan… --- SCAN SUMMARY --- Known viruses: 707886 Engine version: 0.95.3 Scanned directories: 0 Scanned files: 1 Infected files: 1 Data scanned: 0.02 MB Data read: 0.01 MB (ratio 3.00:1) Time: 2.640 sec (0 m 2 s) One or more infected files were found, but were left where they are. You can either deal with them yourself, or scan again with the preferences set to move them into a different folder. Trojan.Bredolab-573 But the same open source clamav on my mailserver does not find it when I send the message with the report.zip ? Then I tried to send the zipped eicar test message: found by my mailserver.. Does anyone know why the report.zip is found by my CLamXav on OSX using the same engine as the clamd version I use by qmail-toaster and my mailserver isn't? Simscan/clamd is seeing it as ok: @40004b716917146d7ff4 /var/qmail/simscan/1265723661.274561.31634/eicarcom2.zip: Eicar-Test-Signature FOUND @40004b71693e2c0f617c /var/qmail/simscan/1265723700.530689.31662/report.zip: OK Any help is much appreciated as I don't want any virusses slipping through :) Kind regards, Michiel - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Virtual QMT
Sorry 'bout that. Never used threaded view... So, I restarted this one and added below... Sorry, Phil. I posted reply to Jake before I read this. BTW, when you change a thread, please create a new message (copy/paste content as appropriate) instead of replying and changing the subject. When you look at messages in threaded view (nice feature btw), this isn't a new thread, only a changed subject. :( Common mistake. Phil Leinhauser wrote: So let's change the thread and explore yours a bit... I'd be interested in where virtual QMTs choke. Is it IO, proc, mem? Maybe too many other guests? While I only have about 1/2 of your 500 user choke point, I get very good performance from my VM server based QMT. I did have issues before I found some of the tuning points that I'm documenting in the wiki. I've been running some sort of VM in my small business since the days of GSX and in work I have a very large install of ESX / vSphere. I do know things like heavily used databases and the like don't run too well virtualized. I'd be interested to see if the QMT limit is something that can be overcome? Me too. I think/feel/hope there's a way to improve on that. FWIW, I talked with a company a year or so ago that was running Oracle in virtual guests, and they had managed to obtain satisfactory performance. They didn't go into specifics, so I don't know how they did it. Can be done though I believe. I saw your discussion a few days ago with Eric about slow virtual performance but you said that was with something other than VM? That was one Xen server. I don't know about the others he was working on though. We did have a couple Oracle databases on our ESX 3.5 but they seemed to choke. I was in the middle of building the infrastructure so I couldn't help him (Not that I would have been much help with Oracle). Is there anything like a load tester for QMT to mimic the 500 user limit?
[qmailtoaster] Re: Virtual QMT
Phil Leinhauser wrote: Is there anything like a load tester for QMT to mimic the 500 user limit? I don't know of one. (Doesn't mean there isn't one) It'd be nice to have a testing harness of some sort for QMT. Anyone up for writing one? -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Logs
hola lista,, necesito algun script para la consola o via web, donde pueda de forma simple ver los log de qmail, ya que veo que hay un monton de archivos en la carpeta de log, la idea es que me lea todos los archivos juntos hello list, I need some script to the console or via web, where you can see it simply log of qmail, and I see that there are lots of files in the log, the idea is that I read all the files together - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Logs
Ariel wrote: hola lista,, necesito algun script para la consola o via web, donde pueda de forma simple ver los log de qmail, ya que veo que hay un monton de archivos en la carpeta de log, la idea es que me lea todos los archivos juntos hello list, I need some script to the console or via web, where you can see it simply log of qmail, and I see that there are lots of files in the log, the idea is that I read all the files together - Look at qmlog and qtp-install-watchall, at of http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Virtual QMT
Eric Shubert wrote: Phil Leinhauser wrote: Is there anything like a load tester for QMT to mimic the 500 user limit? I don't know of one. (Doesn't mean there isn't one) It'd be nice to have a testing harness of some sort for QMT. Anyone up for writing one? One of the setups I was working on was Xen, but there is one running ESX. They have 500 users, all using IMAP, and some users experience 8-10 minute lags in accessing their imap stores (or webmail). IMAP processes have been increased, and the softlimit has also been increased. I do agree we could use some testing tools (this should be on the devel list, and can easily be added to the tools section of the subversion repo). I used to have a script around here somewhere that dumped 10K emails to load test, but haven't used it in a long time and would have to really dig to find it. I just wonder if the imap load isn't hitting a limitation in the VMware storage structure. The system has enough horse power and lots of RAM. 'sar' shows the cpu is not working very hard. When running a 'du -sh *' on the /home/vpopmail/domains takes as long as 7 minutes on a couple domains, which is what points me towards a VMware filesystem suspicion, since that test is not even using imap but straight file access. As a side thought - anyone ever looked at freshmeat on some pop/imap testing tools? - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Virtual QMT
Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Phil Leinhauser wrote: Is there anything like a load tester for QMT to mimic the 500 user limit? I don't know of one. (Doesn't mean there isn't one) It'd be nice to have a testing harness of some sort for QMT. Anyone up for writing one? One of the setups I was working on was Xen, but there is one running ESX. They have 500 users, all using IMAP, and some users experience 8-10 minute lags in accessing their imap stores (or webmail). IMAP processes have been increased, and the softlimit has also been increased. I do agree we could use some testing tools (this should be on the devel list, and can easily be added to the tools section of the subversion repo). I used to have a script around here somewhere that dumped 10K emails to load test, but haven't used it in a long time and would have to really dig to find it. I just wonder if the imap load isn't hitting a limitation in the VMware storage structure. The system has enough horse power and lots of RAM. 'sar' shows the cpu is not working very hard. When running a 'du -sh *' on the /home/vpopmail/domains takes as long as 7 minutes on a couple domains, which is what points me towards a VMware filesystem suspicion, since that test is not even using imap but straight file access. That's a good guess. I'll think about it a bit. Courier or Dovecot? (Not that it matters a whole lot if filesystem access is slow) Which elevator type is running on the guest? (noop appears to be best) Any idea which elevator ESX is configured to use? Which ESX version? As a side thought - anyone ever looked at freshmeat on some pop/imap testing tools? - -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Memory dan Email stats
Eric Shubert wrote: Have you applied Jake's change for the simscan working directory? No I haven't. But will look into You don't need more ram. Your swap file is virtually unused, and there is 1.2G cached i/o. As your processes require more ram, linux will reduce the i/o cache to accommodate it. You have plenty of ram IMO. As a side note, 4G of swap is overkill as you can see. Making swap 2x the amount of ram used to be the rule of thumb, but that's not as applicable these days with so much ram. In your system, I think I would use 1G of swap. If your system actually uses that much, performance will be suffering, and at that point you'll be wanting to add more ram. OMG, I am an outdated sysadmin :( So back to your performance issue. Your Cpu is not strained (96.4% idle), and not waiting a lot either (2.6%). That's good. Your load is fairly high though, 1.0+ over the previous 15 minutes and trending upwards. This is puzzling to me. I've seen this sort of thing before, but only in a VM environment. This isn't a VM guest is it? So CPU is not an issue here. Great. the QMT is on Dedicated Server Do you have zombie processes running? Your cpu load is low, yet there are 3 spamd processes running. I thought spamd has 2 standby child-processes and the other one is the master process Anyone else have any thoughts about this (slightly) high load? Thanks Eric for your detailed review regarding my system. The reason why I am asking this question because some users complaining sometimes they had double emails which sent to their email address not from milist. From reading the archive and previous question I ask to this milist, it was lack of memory problem. that's why I submit my memory usage along with qmt statistic. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Security
Eric Shubert wrote: As you're aware, there is some tuning involved with VMs. Please visit the wiki vmware page (http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/VMware) and let us know what you think. It's presently under construction, but I think Phil and I have a good start on it. it's great, I'll look at it. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Logs
Ariel wrote: hola lista,, necesito algun script para la consola o via web, donde pueda de forma simple ver los log de qmail, ya que veo que hay un monton de archivos en la carpeta de log, la idea es que me lea todos los archivos juntos hello list, I need some script to the console or via web, where you can see it simply log of qmail, and I see that there are lots of files in the log, the idea is that I read all the files together ... I think you can use webmin, add custom menu to do what it take (like: tail -n 100 /var/log/qmail/smtp/current) sorry oneliner - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: question about simscan, clamd and qmail
Dnia 2010-02-09, o godz. 09:06:06 Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net napisał(a): Good guess Aleksander. I think I'd ask the clamav community about this. Please keep us apprised of what you find. The answer is simpler, this virus was added to clamav database 2010-02-09 14:34 +0100 http://lurker.clamav.net/message/20100209.133435.ffd1e240.en.html The letter was scanned: 2010-02-09 14:55:00.739205500 /var/qmail/simscan/1265723700.530689.31662/report.zip: OK probably before freshclam updated the virus database. :) -- Pozdrawiam / Regards, Aleksander Podsiadły mail: a...@westside.kielce.pl jid: a...@jabber.westside.kielce.pl ICQ: 201121279 gg: 9150578 N:50.88409 S:20.58425 - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Virtual QMT
On 2/10/2010 7:50 AM, Jake Vickers wrote: One of the setups I was working on was Xen, but there is one running ESX. They have 500 users, all using IMAP, and some users experience 8-10 minute lags in accessing their imap stores (or webmail). This isn't directly related to the topic on hand, but I found that without VMWare tools installed and using kernel options, there are serious clock drifts especially in CentOS/RHEL using the 2.6 kernel. http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_UScmd=displayKCexternalId=1006427 Bharath - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com