Re: [qmailtoaster] Results differences between spamc and spamassasin command line
Le 30/05/2010 04:14, Jake Vickers a écrit : On 05/27/2010 05:56 AM, Pierre Gaxatte wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to get SURBL working so I followed the wiki and everything is configured as suggested but the example URL is not catched when sending the test mail from hotmail/gmail/anywhere. I tried to understand why this doesn't work by taking the mail and feeding it to the spamassassin executable. This works, the SURBL are used and the spam score is through the roof as expected. BUT, when I use spamc, nothing happens. Also when I run spamassassin and spamc with the vpopmail user, nothing happens. How can that be different? Is this a configuration problem? Here are some example of what I ran (sorry in advance, it's going to be big :-)): ### # 4th test with spamassassin (user *vpopmail*) ### # sudo -u vpopmail -H spamassassin my_email_with_test_URL Return-Path: x...@hotmail.fr X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.agiir.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=8.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE,RDNS_NONE, URIBL_AB_SURBL,URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_OB_SURBL,URIBL_PH_SURBL,URIBL_SC_SURBL, URIBL_WS_SURBL autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Report: * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML inclus dans le message * 2.0 URIBL_PH_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the PH SURBL blocklist * [URIs: surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com] * 1.6 URIBL_AB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the AB SURBL blocklist * [URIs: surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com] * 2.1 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist * [URIs: surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com] * 2.9 URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL blocklist * [URIs: surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com] * 2.1 URIBL_OB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the OB SURBL blocklist * [URIs: surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com] * 2.5 URIBL_SC_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the SC SURBL blocklist * [URIs: surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com] * 0.1 RDNS_NONE Delivered to trusted network by a host with no rDNS * -4.5 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list Delivered-To: x...@agiir.com Received: (qmail 29153 invoked by uid 89); 27 May 2010 09:04:31 - Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 29141, pid: 29144, t: 0.3683s scanners: attach: 1.4.0 clamav: 0.96/m:52/d:11086 spam: 3.2.5 Received: from unknown (HELO col0-omc3-s8.col0.hotmail.com) (65.55.34.146) by mail.agiir.net with SMTP; 27 May 2010 09:04:31 - Received-SPF: pass (mail.agiir.net: SPF record at spf-a.hotmail.com designates 65.55.34.146 as permitted sender) Received: from COL112-W22 ([65.55.34.136]) by col0-omc3-s8.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 27 May 2010 02:04:29 -0700 Message-ID: col112-w228f556e262976708bb79ed9...@phx.gbl Return-Path: x...@hotmail.fr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_7c2d7506-6daa-410a-b29d-4f53760c4aef_ X-Originating-IP: [85.14.144.10] From: Pierre Gaxatte x...@hotmail.fr To: x...@agiir.com Subject: ***SPAM*** Test RBL Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:04:29 +0200 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Prev-Subject: Test RBL --_7c2d7506-6daa-410a-b29d-4f53760c4aef_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com http://surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com http://surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com http://surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com I see the URL caught by 6 different rules. Those had given it a score of 13.2. AWL gave it a -4.5 since the address had sent several emails back and forth already. AWL will average the email's score to prevent spikes from senders that may occasionally send you a message that would normally get them flagged. What exactly is your issue? My issue is that the SURBL are working when I run spamassassin with the command-line but it doesn't where I run spamc and therefore it doesn't work with actual mail I receive. What bothers me is that spamc is actually showing the same scores as spamassassin -L. My /var/qmail/supervise/spamd/run: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/spamd -x -u vpopmail -s stderr 21 And my /var/qmail/supervise/smtpd/run: #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`id -u vpopmail` NOFILESGID=`id -g vpopmail` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` BLACKLIST=`cat /var/qmail/control/blacklists` SMTPD=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd TCP_CDB=/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp.cdb RBLSMTPD=/usr/bin/rblsmtpd HOSTNAME=`hostname` VCHKPW=/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw REQUIRE_AUTH=0 exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 6400 \ /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l mail.agiir.net -x $TCP_CDB -c $MAXSMTPD \ -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp \ $SMTPD $VCHKPW /bin/true 21 I tweeked the smtpd/run to remove the $RBLSMTPD $BLACKLIST part. Is my problem related to that change? Regards, Pierre - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group
Re: [qmailtoaster] Opinions Please
Appreciate it! I think I'm leaning away from it. Still trying to come up with a good (cheap) solution to the problem though. Heartbeat would be fine if I had everything at one location on one connection, but I really need to keep a remote set of everything for when the storms come rolling through. Sigh... Thanks, Scott Michael Colvin wrote: But the result is the same. So, you're failing over 2 nameservers at each location instead of 1. TTL sill still come into play with external DNS' caching the results prior to failover. Also, keep in mind, some DNS don't play well an don't honor your TTL's. I think I understand what you're trying to accomplish, and it might work to some degree, and would be better than nothing, but it isn't really ideal, or even less than ideal... Even if you had short TTL's, and external DNS honored the TTL's, it would be very inefficient to have your DNS hammered from increased queries because of the short TTL's... Just my .02. Michael J. Colvin NorCal Internet Services www.norcalisp.com -Original Message- From: South Computers [mailto:i...@southcomputers.com] Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 5:50 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Opinions Please To clarify, ns1 would *not* failover to ns2. Both ns1 ns2 would failover to a second set of ns1 ns2's (duplicate but with different records). South Computers wrote: Thanks, Yes, that is always the problem with dns failover. But I have to say, it has worked extremely well with the paid service I use for the critical domains on a domain by domain basis. I think they just set the ttl very low. To keep it simple, what I'm thinking it that rather than pay for the service for hundreds of domains (I do a lot of affiliate marketing), maybe do it for the dns of the actual nameservers at the locations (both ns1 ns2), so IPs for them (my nameservers) would change on the fly as an outage occurs for both ns1 ns2. Naturally, both sets of nameservers would publish the IP addresses of the web servers for their own location only. Michael J. Colvin wrote: If I follow you right, the biggest issue would be the TTL of the DNS records. If you're using ns1, and everything resolves to the addresses contained in it at location 1, then if failover occurs to ns2, and thus site 2, that would work for new requests for DNS information. But, cached information, which is usually at least an hour or more, would still try to resolve to the old IP's. If site 1 is down, then traffic bound for site 1 (Cached requests) would fail. I may not have understood what you were trying to say though.. Mike -Original Message- From: South Computers [mailto:i...@southcomputers.com] Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 11:17 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Opinions Please That looks interesting. Been thinking about this myself a lot lately (failover, not load balancing, especially for http). Being in hurricane alley I think about this this time every year. Not too worried about mail, as I just use smtp routes to point everything back to primary mail server(s). I use dnsmadeeasy's failover services for my must be up sites, but wondering.. I have a sneaky idea. Maybe. Might I be cheating a bit if I were to: Setup a couple of domains on dnsmadeeasy (or any service that does failover reliably), and add failover service to each. Add records for ns1, ns2, whatever to each. Setup a dns server on each machine (different geographical locations). Each dns server would be configured to point to it's own set of records (for that location) Setup failover for ns1, ns2, etc at failover dns service to rollover to the live dns server, thus effectively failovering all records for everything on the dns server. With hundreds of domains, this could save a lot of money paying for individual failover service. Does this make sense? Thoughts? Scott Hughes wrote: I am considering setting up a second QMT server using Jake's replicated server tutorial. These servers will be in two different cities for maximum redundancy. If I remember correctly, Jake mentioned setting up DNS round robin to balance the two QMT servers. My question is this: Is DNS better for load balancing, or would it be better to utilize a load balancing program like 'balance' (http://www.inlab.de/balance.html) ? Or does it really make a difference for this application. I would be balancing IMAP (993) / SMTP (25) / POP3 (110). Thanks, Scott --- - - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today!
Re: [qmailtoaster] qmail secure authentication help!
For Outlook itself? For newer versions: Tools / email accounts / view or change existing accounts / select account / change / more settings / outgoing server / log on using / check the box for SPA carlos...@tmdigital.es wrote: Hi, i needed know how enable secure password athentication to work in outlook programs. Thank!! - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] qmail secure authentication help!
not for itself, i need help to install or enable smpt-auth for required this option, have a problem with ip-blacklist (spamhause) and mailer software (o. express, thunderbird, etc..) For Outlook itself? For newer versions: Tools / email accounts / view or change existing accounts / select account / change / more settings / outgoing server / log on using / check the box for SPA carlos...@tmdigital.es wrote: Hi, i needed know how enable secure password athentication to work in outlook programs. Thank!! - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] qmail secure authentication help!
Perhaps this is what you are looking for: http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/SSL_on_submission_port Scott On 5/31/10 10:24 AM, carlos...@tmdigital.es wrote: not for itself, i need help to install or enable smpt-auth for required this option, have a problem with ip-blacklist (spamhause) and mailer software (o. express, thunderbird, etc..) For Outlook itself? For newer versions: Tools / email accounts / view or change existing accounts / select account / change / more settings / outgoing server / log on using / check the box for SPA carlos...@tmdigital.es wrote: Hi, i needed know how enable secure password athentication to work in outlook programs. Thank!! - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Results differences between spamc and spamassasin command line
On 05/31/2010 08:15 AM, Pierre Gaxatte wrote: Le 30/05/2010 04:14, Jake Vickers a écrit : On 05/27/2010 05:56 AM, Pierre Gaxatte wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to get SURBL working so I followed the wiki and everything is configured as suggested but the example URL is not catched when sending the test mail from hotmail/gmail/anywhere. I tried to understand why this doesn't work by taking the mail and feeding it to the spamassassin executable. This works, the SURBL are used and the spam score is through the roof as expected. BUT, when I use spamc, nothing happens. Also when I run spamassassin and spamc with the vpopmail user, nothing happens. How can that be different? Is this a configuration problem? Here are some example of what I ran (sorry in advance, it's going to be big :-)): ### # 4th test with spamassassin (user *vpopmail*) ### # sudo -u vpopmail -H spamassassin my_email_with_test_URL Return-Path: x...@hotmail.fr X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.agiir.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=8.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE,RDNS_NONE, URIBL_AB_SURBL,URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_OB_SURBL,URIBL_PH_SURBL,URIBL_SC_SURBL, URIBL_WS_SURBL autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Report: * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML inclus dans le message * 2.0 URIBL_PH_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the PH SURBL blocklist * [URIs: surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com] * 1.6 URIBL_AB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the AB SURBL blocklist * [URIs: surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com] * 2.1 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist * [URIs: surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com] * 2.9 URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL blocklist * [URIs: surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com] * 2.1 URIBL_OB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the OB SURBL blocklist * [URIs: surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com] * 2.5 URIBL_SC_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the SC SURBL blocklist * [URIs: surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com] * 0.1 RDNS_NONE Delivered to trusted network by a host with no rDNS * -4.5 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list Delivered-To: x...@agiir.com Received: (qmail 29153 invoked by uid 89); 27 May 2010 09:04:31 - Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 29141, pid: 29144, t: 0.3683s scanners: attach: 1.4.0 clamav: 0.96/m:52/d:11086 spam: 3.2.5 Received: from unknown (HELO col0-omc3-s8.col0.hotmail.com) (65.55.34.146) by mail.agiir.net with SMTP; 27 May 2010 09:04:31 - Received-SPF: pass (mail.agiir.net: SPF record at spf-a.hotmail.com designates 65.55.34.146 as permitted sender) Received: from COL112-W22 ([65.55.34.136]) by col0-omc3-s8.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 27 May 2010 02:04:29 -0700 Message-ID: col112-w228f556e262976708bb79ed9...@phx.gbl Return-Path: x...@hotmail.fr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_7c2d7506-6daa-410a-b29d-4f53760c4aef_ X-Originating-IP: [85.14.144.10] From: Pierre Gaxatte x...@hotmail.fr To: x...@agiir.com Subject: ***SPAM*** Test RBL Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:04:29 +0200 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Prev-Subject: Test RBL --_7c2d7506-6daa-410a-b29d-4f53760c4aef_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com http://surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com http://surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com http://surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com I see the URL caught by 6 different rules. Those had given it a score of 13.2. AWL gave it a -4.5 since the address had sent several emails back and forth already. AWL will average the email's score to prevent spikes from senders that may occasionally send you a message that would normally get them flagged. What exactly is your issue? My issue is that the SURBL are working when I run spamassassin with the command-line but it doesn't where I run spamc and therefore it doesn't work with actual mail I receive. What bothers me is that spamc is actually showing the same scores as spamassassin -L. My /var/qmail/supervise/spamd/run: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/spamd -x -u vpopmail -s stderr 21 And my /var/qmail/supervise/smtpd/run: #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`id -u vpopmail` NOFILESGID=`id -g vpopmail` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` BLACKLIST=`cat /var/qmail/control/blacklists` SMTPD=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd TCP_CDB=/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp.cdb RBLSMTPD=/usr/bin/rblsmtpd HOSTNAME=`hostname` VCHKPW=/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw REQUIRE_AUTH=0 exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 6400 \ /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l mail.agiir.net -x $TCP_CDB -c $MAXSMTPD \ -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp \ $SMTPD $VCHKPW /bin/true 21 I tweeked the smtpd/run to remove the $RBLSMTPD $BLACKLIST part. Is my problem related to that change? The environment variables you removed will stop incoming mail from being processed by the RBLs located in
[qmailtoaster] Re: qmail secure authentication help!
If you're having problems with blacklists, TLS/SSL won't fix that. In order to get around submitters being blacklisted, you have to either configure the client(s) to use port 587 (the submission port) instead of port 25, or install spamdyke on your QMT, which bypasses filters (including rbl checks) for authenticated sessions on port 25. Regarding Outlook specifically, it should be noted that Outlook'03 does not support TLS, and can only use SMTPS (the deprecated port 465). Outlook'07 does support TLS however, and should be configured to use this on the standard port 587. HTH. -- -Eric 'shubes' Scott Hughes wrote: Also, when Mr. Jake gets time to get the videos back up, he just completed one on this very topic that might be a simplier / more direct method. Looking at the two, I think the video is a better method. Scott On 5/31/10 10:24 AM, carlos...@tmdigital.es wrote: not for itself, i need help to install or enable smpt-auth for required this option, have a problem with ip-blacklist (spamhause) and mailer software (o. express, thunderbird, etc..) For Outlook itself? For newer versions: Tools / email accounts / view or change existing accounts / select account / change / more settings / outgoing server / log on using / check the box for SPA carlos...@tmdigital.es wrote: Hi, i needed know how enable secure password athentication to work in outlook programs. Thank!! - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: qmail secure authentication help!
When I try to use port 587 (SSL) I get an error that my SMTP is not responding. I checked that submission is running and that port 587 is open. Where else should I check to troubleshoot this problem? Thanks, Scott On 5/31/10 4:12 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: If you're having problems with blacklists, TLS/SSL won't fix that. In order to get around submitters being blacklisted, you have to either configure the client(s) to use port 587 (the submission port) instead of port 25, or install spamdyke on your QMT, which bypasses filters (including rbl checks) for authenticated sessions on port 25. Regarding Outlook specifically, it should be noted that Outlook'03 does not support TLS, and can only use SMTPS (the deprecated port 465). Outlook'07 does support TLS however, and should be configured to use this on the standard port 587. HTH.
[qmailtoaster] Re: qmail secure authentication help!
Which client are you trying to use SSL from? You can use TLS on port 587, but not SSL. SMTPS (SMTP over SSL) is deprecated, so you shouldn't use it unless you have too (Outlook'03 being the only case I'm aware of). If you need to use SSL with Outlook'03, you should set up port 465 for using SMTPS the old fashioned way. If you're using Outlook'03 only on a local network, I wouldn't bother. -- -Eric 'shubes' Scott Hughes wrote: When I try to use port 587 (SSL) I get an error that my SMTP is not responding. I checked that submission is running and that port 587 is open. Where else should I check to troubleshoot this problem? Thanks, Scott On 5/31/10 4:12 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: If you're having problems with blacklists, TLS/SSL won't fix that. In order to get around submitters being blacklisted, you have to either configure the client(s) to use port 587 (the submission port) instead of port 25, or install spamdyke on your QMT, which bypasses filters (including rbl checks) for authenticated sessions on port 25. Regarding Outlook specifically, it should be noted that Outlook'03 does not support TLS, and can only use SMTPS (the deprecated port 465). Outlook'07 does support TLS however, and should be configured to use this on the standard port 587. HTH. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: qmail secure authentication help!
Sorry - I should have said TLS (typo). I am using Thunderbird 3 as the test client. BTW - I am using Spamdyke if that makes any difference. I have tried the SSL/TLS and the STARTTLS options. Both fail. The first one times out and the second one complains that the server doesn't advertise this feature. Scott On 5/31/10 4:31 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: Which client are you trying to use SSL from? You can use TLS on port 587, but not SSL. SMTPS (SMTP over SSL) is deprecated, so you shouldn't use it unless you have too (Outlook'03 being the only case I'm aware of). If you need to use SSL with Outlook'03, you should set up port 465 for using SMTPS the old fashioned way. If you're using Outlook'03 only on a local network, I wouldn't bother.
[qmailtoaster] Horde Webmail
I'm just curious if anyone is using Horde webmail on their QMT system? If so, how difficult and involved was the install process. Horde has a lot of good features that I believe my users would benefit from, but it also looks like a bear of an install and upkeep. Thanks, Scott
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: qmail secure authentication help!
Another piece to this puzzle is that I seem to be getting into the server, but not authenticating / sending: @40004c043a01028b543c tcpserver: status: 1/100 @40004c043a01028de47c tcpserver: pid 25602 from 77.141.113.41 @40004c043a01028fa5b4 tcpserver: ok 25602 mail.SERVERNAME.net:69.255.214.146:587 :77.141.113.41::49833 @40004c043a4717477edc tcpserver: end 25602 status 256 @40004c043a471747f024 tcpserver: status: 0/100 The last two lines pop in after I cancel the attempted send from the email client. Here is my submission run script. I have not edited this file: #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`id -u vpopmail` NOFILESGID=`id -g vpopmail` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` SMTPD=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd TCP_CDB=/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp.cdb HOSTNAME=`hostname` VCHKPW=/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw export REQUIRE_AUTH=1 exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 1200 \ /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l $HOSTNAME -x $TCP_CDB -c $MAXSMTPD \ -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 587 \ $SMTPD $VCHKPW /bin/true 21 Thanks, Scott On 5/31/10 4:31 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: Which client are you trying to use SSL from? You can use TLS on port 587, but not SSL. SMTPS (SMTP over SSL) is deprecated, so you shouldn't use it unless you have too (Outlook'03 being the only case I'm aware of). If you need to use SSL with Outlook'03, you should set up port 465 for using SMTPS the old fashioned way. If you're using Outlook'03 only on a local network, I wouldn't bother.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Horde Webmail
On 05/31/2010 06:29 PM, Scott Hughes wrote: I'm just curious if anyone is using Horde webmail on their QMT system? If so, how difficult and involved was the install process. Horde has a lot of good features that I believe my users would benefit from, but it also looks like a bear of an install and upkeep. I know there are a couple users on the list who have installed it. When I first became a user of QMT, Horde was installed with Squirrelmail. As time went on, Horde became more complicated to setup/configure and it was dropped from the QMT tree (few years ago). Ultimately, there is no reason you can't use it, as long as it uses IMAP to communicate to the mailstore.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Horde Webmail
From what I have read so far, it does use IMAP to communicate to the mailstore. It just has a lot of requirements and I always worry about breaking something on the server. For example, I installed Dovecot IMAP on my QMT server and at that same time, I cannot send email via port 587 TLS. I don't know if the two are somehow linked or not. Wouldn't think so, but then again, I am learning new stuff every day! Thanks, Scott On 5/31/10 5:59 PM, Jake Vickers wrote: On 05/31/2010 06:29 PM, Scott Hughes wrote: I'm just curious if anyone is using Horde webmail on their QMT system? If so, how difficult and involved was the install process. Horde has a lot of good features that I believe my users would benefit from, but it also looks like a bear of an install and upkeep. I know there are a couple users on the list who have installed it. When I first became a user of QMT, Horde was installed with Squirrelmail. As time went on, Horde became more complicated to setup/configure and it was dropped from the QMT tree (few years ago). Ultimately, there is no reason you can't use it, as long as it uses IMAP to communicate to the mailstore.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Horde Webmail
Scott, I tried. It was giving me grief instaling and setting it up, so I bailed. I may give it another go at some point. I have successfully setup atmail and the SMOutlook. They are both pretty good alternatives with some shortcomings. I only tried the atmail open source and not the pay version. Hopefully it's shorcomings are addressed in the pay version. SMOutlook is fine, but it's built on an older version of SM which IIRC has a security flaw. CJ On 05/31/2010 03:29 PM, Scott Hughes wrote: I'm just curious if anyone is using Horde webmail on their QMT system? If so, how difficult and involved was the install process. Horde has a lot of good features that I believe my users would benefit from, but it also looks like a bear of an install and upkeep. Thanks, Scott -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | fax 510.864.7300 http://yother.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: qmail secure authentication help!
H. That should work. Have you generated and signed a certificate, or are you using what QMT generated in /var/qmail/control/servercert.pem? Are it's permissions what they should be? -rw-r- 1 root vchkpw 2416 Feb 25 18:52 servercert.pem Scott Hughes wrote: Another piece to this puzzle is that I seem to be getting into the server, but not authenticating / sending: @40004c043a01028b543c tcpserver: status: 1/100 @40004c043a01028de47c tcpserver: pid 25602 from 77.141.113.41 @40004c043a01028fa5b4 tcpserver: ok 25602 mail.SERVERNAME.net:69.255.214.146:587 :77.141.113.41::49833 @40004c043a4717477edc tcpserver: end 25602 status 256 @40004c043a471747f024 tcpserver: status: 0/100 The last two lines pop in after I cancel the attempted send from the email client. Here is my submission run script. I have not edited this file: #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`id -u vpopmail` NOFILESGID=`id -g vpopmail` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` SMTPD=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd TCP_CDB=/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp.cdb HOSTNAME=`hostname` VCHKPW=/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw export REQUIRE_AUTH=1 exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 1200 \ /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l $HOSTNAME -x $TCP_CDB -c $MAXSMTPD \ -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 587 \ $SMTPD $VCHKPW /bin/true 21 Thanks, Scott On 5/31/10 4:31 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: Which client are you trying to use SSL from? You can use TLS on port 587, but not SSL. SMTPS (SMTP over SSL) is deprecated, so you shouldn't use it unless you have too (Outlook'03 being the only case I'm aware of). If you need to use SSL with Outlook'03, you should set up port 465 for using SMTPS the old fashioned way. If you're using Outlook'03 only on a local network, I wouldn't bother. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Horde Webmail
CJ, I just got Horde up and running with no problem. I ran across a page that gave me an idea, I tried it and it worked. Here is what I did: Download the Horde webmail app to your /var/www/html directory (or where you want it): wget ftp://ftp.us.horde.org/pub/software/horde/horde-webmail/horde-webmail-1.2.6.tar.gz yum install php-xml yum install php-gettext yum install php-imap Unpack the file: tar zxvf horde-webmail-1.2.6.tar.gz Then I moved the file so that the directory name was just 'horde': mv horde-webmail-1.2.6 horde I then followed the quick install instructions here: http://www.horde.org/webmail/docs/?f=INSTALL.html One of my users just tried it and seemed to like. Hope this helps! Scott On 5/31/10 6:35 PM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Scott, I tried. It was giving me grief instaling and setting it up, so I bailed. I may give it another go at some point. I have successfully setup atmail and the SMOutlook. They are both pretty good alternatives with some shortcomings. I only tried the atmail open source and not the pay version. Hopefully it's shorcomings are addressed in the pay version. SMOutlook is fine, but it's built on an older version of SM which IIRC has a security flaw. CJ On 05/31/2010 03:29 PM, Scott Hughes wrote: I'm just curious if anyone is using Horde webmail on their QMT system? If so, how difficult and involved was the install process. Horde has a lot of good features that I believe my users would benefit from, but it also looks like a bear of an install and upkeep. Thanks, Scott -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | fax 510.864.7300 http://yother.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: qmail secure authentication help!
The group was the issue. When I set the client to 587 with STARTTLS, it sent just fine. Thanks Eric. Scott On 5/31/10 6:50 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: H. That should work. Have you generated and signed a certificate, or are you using what QMT generated in /var/qmail/control/servercert.pem? Are it's permissions what they should be? -rw-r- 1 root vchkpw 2416 Feb 25 18:52 servercert.pem Scott Hughes wrote: Another piece to this puzzle is that I seem to be getting into the server, but not authenticating / sending: @40004c043a01028b543c tcpserver: status: 1/100 @40004c043a01028de47c tcpserver: pid 25602 from 77.141.113.41 @40004c043a01028fa5b4 tcpserver: ok 25602 mail.SERVERNAME.net:69.255.214.146:587 :77.141.113.41::49833 @40004c043a4717477edc tcpserver: end 25602 status 256 @40004c043a471747f024 tcpserver: status: 0/100 The last two lines pop in after I cancel the attempted send from the email client. Here is my submission run script. I have not edited this file: #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`id -u vpopmail` NOFILESGID=`id -g vpopmail` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` SMTPD=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd TCP_CDB=/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp.cdb HOSTNAME=`hostname` VCHKPW=/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw export REQUIRE_AUTH=1 exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 1200 \ /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l $HOSTNAME -x $TCP_CDB -c $MAXSMTPD \ -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 587 \ $SMTPD $VCHKPW /bin/true 21 Thanks, Scott On 5/31/10 4:31 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: Which client are you trying to use SSL from? You can use TLS on port 587, but not SSL. SMTPS (SMTP over SSL) is deprecated, so you shouldn't use it unless you have too (Outlook'03 being the only case I'm aware of). If you need to use SSL with Outlook'03, you should set up port 465 for using SMTPS the old fashioned way. If you're using Outlook'03 only on a local network, I wouldn't bother.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Horde Webmail
For some reason I had dependency issues. I will try again using your reference. On 05/31/2010 05:09 PM, Scott Hughes wrote: CJ, I just got Horde up and running with no problem. I ran across a page that gave me an idea, I tried it and it worked. Here is what I did: Download the Horde webmail app to your /var/www/html directory (or where you want it): wget ftp://ftp.us.horde.org/pub/software/horde/horde-webmail/horde-webmail-1.2.6.tar.gz yum install php-xml yum install php-gettext yum install php-imap Unpack the file: tar zxvf horde-webmail-1.2.6.tar.gz Then I moved the file so that the directory name was just 'horde': mv horde-webmail-1.2.6 horde I then followed the quick install instructions here: http://www.horde.org/webmail/docs/?f=INSTALL.html One of my users just tried it and seemed to like. Hope this helps! Scott On 5/31/10 6:35 PM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Scott, I tried. It was giving me grief instaling and setting it up, so I bailed. I may give it another go at some point. I have successfully setup atmail and the SMOutlook. They are both pretty good alternatives with some shortcomings. I only tried the atmail open source and not the pay version. Hopefully it's shorcomings are addressed in the pay version. SMOutlook is fine, but it's built on an older version of SM which IIRC has a security flaw. CJ On 05/31/2010 03:29 PM, Scott Hughes wrote: I'm just curious if anyone is using Horde webmail on their QMT system? If so, how difficult and involved was the install process. Horde has a lot of good features that I believe my users would benefit from, but it also looks like a bear of an install and upkeep. Thanks, Scott -- Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj" cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | fax 510.864.7300 http://yother.com -- Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj" cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 http://yother.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Horde Webmail
Cool. I hope it helps. By way of additional information, my QMT is a stock QMTISO5 installation with only Dovecot added (until this horde installation, that is). Scott On 5/31/10 9:04 PM, Maxwell Smart wrote: For some reason I had dependency issues. I will try again using your reference. On 05/31/2010 05:09 PM, Scott Hughes wrote: CJ, I just got Horde up and running with no problem. I ran across a page that gave me an idea, I tried it and it worked. Here is what I did: Download the Horde webmail app to your /var/www/html directory (or where you want it): wget ftp://ftp.us.horde.org/pub/software/horde/horde-webmail/horde-webmail-1.2.6.tar.gz yum install php-xml yum install php-gettext yum install php-imap Unpack the file: tar zxvf horde-webmail-1.2.6.tar.gz Then I moved the file so that the directory name was just 'horde': mv horde-webmail-1.2.6 horde I then followed the quick install instructions here: http://www.horde.org/webmail/docs/?f=INSTALL.html One of my users just tried it and seemed to like. Hope this helps! Scott On 5/31/10 6:35 PM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Scott, I tried. It was giving me grief instaling and setting it up, so I bailed. I may give it another go at some point. I have successfully setup atmail and the SMOutlook. They are both pretty good alternatives with some shortcomings. I only tried the atmail open source and not the pay version. Hopefully it's shorcomings are addressed in the pay version. SMOutlook is fine, but it's built on an older version of SM which IIRC has a security flaw. CJ On 05/31/2010 03:29 PM, Scott Hughes wrote: I'm just curious if anyone is using Horde webmail on their QMT system? If so, how difficult and involved was the install process. Horde has a lot of good features that I believe my users would benefit from, but it also looks like a bear of an install and upkeep. Thanks, Scott -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | fax 510.864.7300 http://yother.com -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 http://yother.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] email size for spamassassin scan
hi is there a way to set the maximum size for spamassassin scanning for example i want only those emails that are less than 50 kb to be scanned for spam. thanks rajesh - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Horde Webmail
Sorry - Yes, I use Spamdyke. I meant that I had not installed anything extra than what came with the QMT ISO. I do like what Spamdyke does ... I'm actually watching the 'cwatchall' output right now. Lots-o-lovely rejections! Now that I think about it, I did add the SURBL, Razor and Pyzor. The SURBL really cut into the spam that was reaching my user's inboxes! I guess I was think more along the lines of Yum installed software. Scott On 5/31/10 9:29 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: What? No spamdyke? I think you'll really like what it does. Your server will thank you. ;) Scott Hughes wrote: Cool. I hope it helps. By way of additional information, my QMT is a stock QMTISO5 installation with only Dovecot added (until this horde installation, that is). Scott On 5/31/10 9:04 PM, Maxwell Smart wrote: For some reason I had dependency issues. I will try again using your reference. On 05/31/2010 05:09 PM, Scott Hughes wrote: CJ, I just got Horde up and running with no problem. I ran across a page that gave me an idea, I tried it and it worked. Here is what I did: Download the Horde webmail app to your /var/www/html directory (or where you want it): wget ftp://ftp.us.horde.org/pub/software/horde/horde-webmail/horde-webmail-1.2.6.tar.gz yum install php-xml yum install php-gettext yum install php-imap Unpack the file: tar zxvf horde-webmail-1.2.6.tar.gz Then I moved the file so that the directory name was just 'horde': mv horde-webmail-1.2.6 horde I then followed the quick install instructions here: http://www.horde.org/webmail/docs/?f=INSTALL.html One of my users just tried it and seemed to like. Hope this helps! Scott On 5/31/10 6:35 PM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Scott, I tried. It was giving me grief instaling and setting it up, so I bailed. I may give it another go at some point. I have successfully setup atmail and the SMOutlook. They are both pretty good alternatives with some shortcomings. I only tried the atmail open source and not the pay version. Hopefully it's shorcomings are addressed in the pay version. SMOutlook is fine, but it's built on an older version of SM which IIRC has a security flaw. CJ On 05/31/2010 03:29 PM, Scott Hughes wrote: I'm just curious if anyone is using Horde webmail on their QMT system? If so, how difficult and involved was the install process. Horde has a lot of good features that I believe my users would benefit from, but it also looks like a bear of an install and upkeep. Thanks, Scott -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | fax 510.864.7300 http://yother.com -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 http://yother.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today!
Re: [qmailtoaster] Horde Webmail
I am using horde for a long time (even before using qmailtoaster), so I wanted to stick with it. Works like a charm. There is a good installation-howto for horde and centos: http://wiki.horde.org/CentOS5InstallationNotes Just ignore the postfix stuff (or dovecot in case you stick with the original courier). Worked for me. Martin Am 01.06.2010 um 00:29 schrieb Scott Hughes: I'm just curious if anyone is using Horde webmail on their QMT system? If so, how difficult and involved was the install process. Horde has a lot of good features that I believe my users would benefit from, but it also looks like a bear of an install and upkeep. Thanks, Scott -- “Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper.” Larry Flynt - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Horde Webmail
I got it working. I think it was the php components that may have been missing last time I tried to install it. It's working and looks pretty nice. It also seems to work correctly on a MAC which @mail did not paginate correctly. Thanks all, CJ Quoting Martin Waschbuesch mar...@waschbuesch.de: I am using horde for a long time (even before using qmailtoaster), so I wanted to stick with it. Works like a charm. There is a good installation-howto for horde and centos: http://wiki.horde.org/CentOS5InstallationNotes Just ignore the postfix stuff (or dovecot in case you stick with the original courier). Worked for me. Martin Am 01.06.2010 um 00:29 schrieb Scott Hughes: I'm just curious if anyone is using Horde webmail on their QMT system? If so, how difficult and involved was the install process. Horde has a lot of good features that I believe my users would benefit from, but it also looks like a bear of an install and upkeep. Thanks, Scott -- “Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper.” Larry Flynt - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
