[qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail
I'm glad to know that, Anil. It looks to me as though someone took a feature list from Exchange, and made them requirements. Of course, most other email servers don't have these features, because frankly, they're not something that's necessary, or really even desirable. In the interest of reality, they could also have added: 6.Anti-spam capability must be an additional cost, and marginally effective. 7.Server reliability is spotty. 8.Admin of server will be a full time position that is difficult to fill due to frustrating environment. You'll need to decide for yourself what it's worth to you to serve this customer. If they're bent on getting Exchange, that's what they'll get, and they'll deserve it. My opinion is that if you're really acting in your customer's best interest, you'll try to help them understand why Exchange is not something that they should want. This is largely a process of education. Good luck (seriously). -- -Eric 'shubes' On 02/04/2011 12:05 AM, Anil Aliyan wrote: Dear Eric, Yes these requirements are made by the customer. I know exchange server has all these features but just wanted to check if other mail servers like Qmail etc. can provide all these features or not as Exchange Server will be a costly affair. Regards, Anil Aliyan -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:24 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail On 02/03/2011 06:02 AM, Anil Aliyan wrote: Dear All , I have a prospect customer who wish to host their mailing server with us and wish to the following capabilities in the provided mailing solution. Can we have all these mentioned below in Qmail or any add-on for qmail. 1.Every incoming outgoing messages must have unique number generated at server level. 2.Every incoming outgoing message track/ status should be maintained and administrator can monitored the overall log. 3.Admin can maintain user profile and grouping. 4.Admin can review overall / user wise activities. Regards, Anil Aliyan Were these requirements written by you or your prospective customer? -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Forcing TLS on port 587
I think the idea here is to keep clients from inadvertently using a configuration that would result in their password being sent in the clear. This is in order to enforce, as opposed to simply allowing, a good security policy. Dovecot has such a configuration option: # Disable LOGIN command and all other plaintext authentications unless # SSL/TLS is used (LOGINDISABLED capability). Note that if the remote IP # matches the local IP (ie. you're connecting from the same computer), the # connection is considered secure and plaintext authentication is allowed. #disable_plaintext_auth = no disable_plaintext_auth = yes -- -Eric 'shubes' On 02/04/2011 02:10 AM, Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: Why do you want to force TLS? You achieve same results, enabling both TLS and normal smtp, just accepting e-mails from authenticated users It is enough you force authentication, using chkuser 2.0.9 and *CHKUSER_EXTRA_MUSTAUTH_VARIABLE parameter *(http://www.interazioni.it/opensource/chkuser/documentation/chkuser_settings.html#MustAuth). With insertion of export CHKUSER_MUSTAUTH= on running script, you enable acceptance of e-mails only from authenticated users. Anyway, if you want absolutely and only TLS, you can have it using stunnel, which starts a TLS session and then runs normal SMTP (see http://www.ekkaia.org/software/mail/qmailssl.php for examples). It can be run over each single service (pop, imap, etc). Regards, Tonino Il 03/02/2011 20:20, Jeremy Utley ha scritto: Hello everyone! We're using a toaster installation for our primary mail server at my company, and over the last few weeks we've been working on configuring everyone's mail clients to use SSL for sending receiving e-mail. Now that we have everyone converted over to use of SSL, we'd like to stop all non-SSL access. For imap and pop3, it was quite simple, I simply disabled the imap4 and pop3 run scripts in /var/qmail/supervise. However, for SMTP, I haven't had much luck yet. We'd like to force the submission port 587 to require TLS and SMTP-Auth before a message is sent out., while leaving SMTP port 25 un-modified. I had read on another qmail site that you could do this by use of a FORCE_TLS=1 variable in the run script, but that did not work, so I suspect that this patch is not in the toaster packages (and running strings against /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd seems to bear that out). Is there any way with the toaster to enforce TLS usage, and reject any mail that's not TLS. We'd like to stick with TLS so we don't have to reconfigure everyone's mail clients for SMTPS, which is deprecated at any rate. Thanks for any help you all can give! Jeremy - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Forcing TLS on port 587
I did not read carefully about SSL configuration of Jeremy's company, so I supposed TLS as anti-spam additional feature against public usage of MX servers, and did not consider simply the security side about passwords. Anyway, the force auth feature of chkuser is still valid. Regards, Tonino Il 04/02/2011 17:38, Eric Shubert ha scritto: I think the idea here is to keep clients from inadvertently using a configuration that would result in their password being sent in the clear. This is in order to enforce, as opposed to simply allowing, a good security policy. Dovecot has such a configuration option: # Disable LOGIN command and all other plaintext authentications unless # SSL/TLS is used (LOGINDISABLED capability). Note that if the remote IP # matches the local IP (ie. you're connecting from the same computer), the # connection is considered secure and plaintext authentication is allowed. #disable_plaintext_auth = no disable_plaintext_auth = yes -- -Eric 'shubes' On 02/04/2011 02:10 AM, Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: Why do you want to force TLS? You achieve same results, enabling both TLS and normal smtp, just accepting e-mails from authenticated users It is enough you force authentication, using chkuser 2.0.9 and *CHKUSER_EXTRA_MUSTAUTH_VARIABLE parameter *(http://www.interazioni.it/opensource/chkuser/documentation/chkuser_settings.html#MustAuth). With insertion of export CHKUSER_MUSTAUTH= on running script, you enable acceptance of e-mails only from authenticated users. Anyway, if you want absolutely and only TLS, you can have it using stunnel, which starts a TLS session and then runs normal SMTP (see http://www.ekkaia.org/software/mail/qmailssl.php for examples). It can be run over each single service (pop, imap, etc). Regards, Tonino Il 03/02/2011 20:20, Jeremy Utley ha scritto: Hello everyone! We're using a toaster installation for our primary mail server at my company, and over the last few weeks we've been working on configuring everyone's mail clients to use SSL for sending receiving e-mail. Now that we have everyone converted over to use of SSL, we'd like to stop all non-SSL access. For imap and pop3, it was quite simple, I simply disabled the imap4 and pop3 run scripts in /var/qmail/supervise. However, for SMTP, I haven't had much luck yet. We'd like to force the submission port 587 to require TLS and SMTP-Auth before a message is sent out., while leaving SMTP port 25 un-modified. I had read on another qmail site that you could do this by use of a FORCE_TLS=1 variable in the run script, but that did not work, so I suspect that this patch is not in the toaster packages (and running strings against /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd seems to bear that out). Is there any way with the toaster to enforce TLS usage, and reject any mail that's not TLS. We'd like to stick with TLS so we don't have to reconfigure everyone's mail clients for SMTPS, which is deprecated at any rate. Thanks for any help you all can give! Jeremy - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Inter@zioniInterazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it to...@interazioni.it - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail
Actually, can't most if not all email server packages such as QmailToaster do these things? 1.Every incoming outgoing messages must have unique number generated at server level. Doesn't this correspond to the Message-ID header field? 2.Every incoming outgoing message track/ status should be maintained and administrator can monitored the overall log. QmailToaster doesn't log everything in one file, but it still logs. A competent admin can figure out what's going on with a specific message. 3.Admin can maintain user profile and grouping. An admin can control what user accounts exist on the toaster and can configure mailing lists, forwards, aliases, etc. 4.Admin can review overall / user wise activities. Once again, QmailToaster logs pretty much everything and an admin can monitor the logs. Brent Gardner - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail
There is a time and a place for Exchange, but if all they intend to do is email, that's not it. Exchange can be time consuming on the administrative end if the company has more than say 10 - 20 inboxes/accounts (especially as the information store grows). If they don't directly need the calendar/journal/shared info and extensive addressbook, don't go Exchange (not worth it as a strict MTA/email server). I agree with Eric that it looks like someone copied the feature list of Exchange (or similar). There are a lot of logs that most people don't use available in Qmail Toaster. Those might already do what you need. Patrick M. Ring Cornerstone IT, LLC Louisiana Web Host, LLC. 985-868-4200 -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:34 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail I'm glad to know that, Anil. It looks to me as though someone took a feature list from Exchange, and made them requirements. Of course, most other email servers don't have these features, because frankly, they're not something that's necessary, or really even desirable. In the interest of reality, they could also have added: 6.Anti-spam capability must be an additional cost, and marginally effective. 7.Server reliability is spotty. 8.Admin of server will be a full time position that is difficult to fill due to frustrating environment. You'll need to decide for yourself what it's worth to you to serve this customer. If they're bent on getting Exchange, that's what they'll get, and they'll deserve it. My opinion is that if you're really acting in your customer's best interest, you'll try to help them understand why Exchange is not something that they should want. This is largely a process of education. Good luck (seriously). -- -Eric 'shubes' On 02/04/2011 12:05 AM, Anil Aliyan wrote: Dear Eric, Yes these requirements are made by the customer. I know exchange server has all these features but just wanted to check if other mail servers like Qmail etc. can provide all these features or not as Exchange Server will be a costly affair. Regards, Anil Aliyan -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:24 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail On 02/03/2011 06:02 AM, Anil Aliyan wrote: Dear All , I have a prospect customer who wish to host their mailing server with us and wish to the following capabilities in the provided mailing solution. Can we have all these mentioned below in Qmail or any add-on for qmail. 1.Every incoming outgoing messages must have unique number generated at server level. 2.Every incoming outgoing message track/ status should be maintained and administrator can monitored the overall log. 3.Admin can maintain user profile and grouping. 4.Admin can review overall / user wise activities. Regards, Anil Aliyan Were these requirements written by you or your prospective customer? -- -Eric 'shubes' -- -- - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! -- -- - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- --- Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations.
[qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail
On 02/04/2011 09:54 AM, Brent Gardner wrote: Actually, can't most if not all email server packages such as QmailToaster do these things? In different ways, and to varying degrees. 1.Every incoming outgoing messages must have unique number generated at server level. Doesn't this correspond to the Message-ID header field? That's what I thought at first, but I believe the Message-ID field is generated by the client that originates the message, not the server. 2.Every incoming outgoing message track/ status should be maintained and administrator can monitored the overall log. QmailToaster doesn't log everything in one file, but it still logs. A competent admin can figure out what's going on with a specific message. True. There is no single log, but that can be considered a strength as well as a weakness. 3.Admin can maintain user profile and grouping. An admin can control what user accounts exist on the toaster and can configure mailing lists, forwards, aliases, etc. True. I don't think that the grouping part is really handled though, where you could specify a group profile, then assign various users to be members of a group. AD type of stuff. 4.Admin can review overall / user wise activities. Once again, QmailToaster logs pretty much everything and an admin can monitor the logs. True enough. It's just a little cumbersome to see a particular user's activities. A little creative use of qmlog though goes a long way. The information can be obtained, it's just not in a pretty pre-baked form. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail
On 02/04/2011 10:04 AM, Patrick Ring wrote: There is a time and a place for Exchange, but if all they intend to do is email, that's not it. Good point. If they really need other features that Exchange offers, they should also consider Zimbra (google it). I've heard some good things about Zimbra. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with qmHandle
Hi, I've tried other ways, getting the same result [root@mail2 ~]# qmHandle -tf 't...@mail.com' Calling system script to terminate qmail... Stopping qmail-toaster: svscan qmail logging. Message matching From: -tf not found in the queue! Qmail is already running again, so it won't be restarted. [root@mail2 ~]# qmHandle -tf t...@mail.com Calling system script to terminate qmail... Stopping qmail-toaster: svscan qmail logging. Message matching From: -tf not found in the queue! Qmail is already running again, so it won't be restarted. [root@mail2 ~]# qmHandle -tf mail.com Calling system script to terminate qmail... Stopping qmail-toaster: svscan qmail logging. Message matching From: -tf not found in the queue! Qmail is already running again, so it won't be restarted. I will try to analyze the qmHandle code, there may be some error. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Adrian Ramirez 2011/2/3 Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net The @ character has a special meaning to bash. I would try putting single quotes around the address. -- -Eric 'shubes' On 02/03/2011 09:34 AM, Adrian Ramirez wrote: Hi, with qmHandle I try to delete the messages sent by the same sender. When I run the command I get this error, its a sintax error? # qmHandle -tf t...@mail.com mailto:t...@mail.com Calling system script to terminate qmail... Stopping qmail-toaster: svscan qmail logging. Message matching From: -tf not found in the queue! Qmail is already running again, so it won't be restarted. With qmHandle -l I found that there are queued messages that correspond to my search. qtp-whatami v0.3.7 jue feb 3 13:21:09 PYST 2011 DISTRO=Red Hat Enterprise OSVER=5.5 QTARCH=x86_64 QTKERN=2.6.18-194.8.1.el5 BUILD_DIST=cnt5064 BUILD_DIR=/usr/src/redhat This machine's OS is supported, but this version/arch has not been tested. Could you help me? Thanks. -- Adrian Ramirez - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group ( www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail
Actually, if you want to get TECHNICAL, most of those things can also be done in QMT: 1 - a Unique Message ID is created when the server receives each message -- and the message ID is the filename used by VPOPMAIL to store the message (or at least PART of the filename). Of course, to SEE the message ID (file name, etc), you'll need access to the QMail files and folders. 2 - Tracking Status are handled by the QMail logging feature -- and detailed logs are kept for each process. You can adjust the level of detail. The only tricky part is that the Admin user who wants to view these logs will need shell access, or else web access to the log folders files. 3 - Using QMT and the VPOPMAIL utilities, an Admin can easily maintain and modify the settings (including quotas) for each user 4 - Here's the tricky one... Using shell commands and the QMail logs, an Admin certainly can determine overall user activity -- but the logs will need to be more detailed than the default setting, and the Admin will need a shell account in addition to the QMail account. So you see, depending on how you INTERPRET the requirements, QMT can satisfy the requirements with little change! There ARE ways to outsmart even LAZY requirements writers (e.g.: the ones that copy requirements from feature lists!) Just my thoughts... Dan IT4SOHO PS: Throw in an additional kicker -- QMT can support separate Admins for each Domain -- so that different e-mail domain admins can be completely locked out of domains that they are NOT admins for. On 2/4/2011 2:05 AM, Anil Aliyan wrote: Dear Eric, Yes these requirements are made by the customer. I know exchange server has all these features but just wanted to check if other mail servers like Qmail etc. can provide all these features or not as Exchange Server will be a costly affair. Regards, Anil Aliyan -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:24 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail On 02/03/2011 06:02 AM, Anil Aliyan wrote: Dear All , I have a prospect customer who wish to host their mailing server with us and wish to the following capabilities in the provided mailing solution. Can we have all these mentioned below in Qmail or any add-on for qmail. 1.Every incoming outgoing messages must have unique number generated at server level. 2.Every incoming outgoing message track/ status should be maintained and administrator can monitored the overall log. 3.Admin can maintain user profile and grouping. 4.Admin can review overall / user wise activities. Regards, Anil Aliyan Were these requirements written by you or your prospective customer? -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail
Very True on all counts. However, don't be fooled. The logs on Exchange require console/RDP administrative access and can be just as difficult to get to and interpret as QMail. Patrick M. Ring Cornerstone IT, LLC Louisiana Web Host, LLC. 985-868-4200 -Original Message- From: Dan McAllister [mailto:d...@it4soho.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:16 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail Actually, if you want to get TECHNICAL, most of those things can also be done in QMT: 1 - a Unique Message ID is created when the server receives each message -- and the message ID is the filename used by VPOPMAIL to store the message (or at least PART of the filename). Of course, to SEE the message ID (file name, etc), you'll need access to the QMail files and folders. 2 - Tracking Status are handled by the QMail logging feature -- and detailed logs are kept for each process. You can adjust the level of detail. The only tricky part is that the Admin user who wants to view these logs will need shell access, or else web access to the log folders files. 3 - Using QMT and the VPOPMAIL utilities, an Admin can easily maintain and modify the settings (including quotas) for each user 4 - Here's the tricky one... Using shell commands and the QMail logs, an Admin certainly can determine overall user activity -- but the logs will need to be more detailed than the default setting, and the Admin will need a shell account in addition to the QMail account. So you see, depending on how you INTERPRET the requirements, QMT can satisfy the requirements with little change! There ARE ways to outsmart even LAZY requirements writers (e.g.: the ones that copy requirements from feature lists!) Just my thoughts... Dan IT4SOHO PS: Throw in an additional kicker -- QMT can support separate Admins for each Domain -- so that different e-mail domain admins can be completely locked out of domains that they are NOT admins for. On 2/4/2011 2:05 AM, Anil Aliyan wrote: Dear Eric, Yes these requirements are made by the customer. I know exchange server has all these features but just wanted to check if other mail servers like Qmail etc. can provide all these features or not as Exchange Server will be a costly affair. Regards, Anil Aliyan -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:24 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail On 02/03/2011 06:02 AM, Anil Aliyan wrote: Dear All , I have a prospect customer who wish to host their mailing server with us and wish to the following capabilities in the provided mailing solution. Can we have all these mentioned below in Qmail or any add-on for qmail. 1.Every incoming outgoing messages must have unique number generated at server level. 2.Every incoming outgoing message track/ status should be maintained and administrator can monitored the overall log. 3.Admin can maintain user profile and grouping. 4.Admin can review overall / user wise activities. Regards, Anil Aliyan Were these requirements written by you or your prospective customer? -- -Eric 'shubes' -- -- - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! -- -- - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- --- Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit
[qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with qmHandle
Have you tried with no space between -tf and the argument? # qmHandle '-tft...@mail.com' That's the only other thing I've thought of short of looking at the source code. -- -Eric 'shubes' On 02/04/2011 10:22 AM, Adrian Ramirez wrote: Hi, I've tried other ways, getting the same result [root@mail2 ~]# qmHandle -tf 't...@mail.com mailto:t...@mail.com' Calling system script to terminate qmail... Stopping qmail-toaster: svscan qmail logging. Message matching From: -tf not found in the queue! Qmail is already running again, so it won't be restarted. [root@mail2 ~]# qmHandle -tf t...@mail.com mailto:t...@mail.com Calling system script to terminate qmail... Stopping qmail-toaster: svscan qmail logging. Message matching From: -tf not found in the queue! Qmail is already running again, so it won't be restarted. [root@mail2 ~]# qmHandle -tf mail.com http://mail.com Calling system script to terminate qmail... Stopping qmail-toaster: svscan qmail logging. Message matching From: -tf not found in the queue! Qmail is already running again, so it won't be restarted. I will try to analyze the qmHandle code, there may be some error. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Adrian Ramirez 2011/2/3 Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net mailto:e...@shubes.net The @ character has a special meaning to bash. I would try putting single quotes around the address. -- -Eric 'shubes' On 02/03/2011 09:34 AM, Adrian Ramirez wrote: Hi, with qmHandle I try to delete the messages sent by the same sender. When I run the command I get this error, its a sintax error? # qmHandle -tf t...@mail.com mailto:t...@mail.com mailto:t...@mail.com mailto:t...@mail.com Calling system script to terminate qmail... Stopping qmail-toaster: svscan qmail logging. Message matching From: -tf not found in the queue! Qmail is already running again, so it won't be restarted. With qmHandle -l I found that there are queued messages that correspond to my search. qtp-whatami v0.3.7 jue feb 3 13:21:09 PYST 2011 DISTRO=Red Hat Enterprise OSVER=5.5 QTARCH=x86_64 QTKERN=2.6.18-194.8.1.el5 BUILD_DIST=cnt5064 BUILD_DIR=/usr/src/redhat This machine's OS is supported, but this version/arch has not been tested. Could you help me? Thanks. -- Adrian Ramirez - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com http://www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com http://qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: upon reboot the webserver is goofed
you do not have to reboot the server in the future to fix this issue. Just reboot the service service httpd restart and it will happily ask you for the phrase again. Gilbert - Original Message - From: Jim Shupert jshup...@pps-inc.com To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: upon reboot the webserver is goofed I think Jim's talking about the server side key/certificate. The certificate that you have configured apparently has a password associated with it. Is this a self signed cert, or one you purchased? Yes that is exactly it. and all is well I had my pass phrase documented [ i always keep my feathers numbered for just such a situation ] i rebOOted and gave the proper response but thanks much for the info , all the info a happy ending have a great day - yall - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Forcing TLS on port 587
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: I'd be very careful with this one, CJ. You need to keep 25 open for incoming (inter-domain) mail. ;) If QMT doesn't have the patch for the FORCE_TLS option, it'd be nice if it did. This is something I'd also like to see on the submission instance of qmail-smtp. Can you round up that patch? If you can give it a try, that'd be great. If not, please post here where to get it so someone (hopefully other than Jake) can give it a shot to see if it clashes with any other patches we're using. I did some additional searching around, and unfortunately, I couldn't find anyplace that had *JUST* this patch. It's part of the version 6 and above of John Simpson's qmail mega-patch, as documented at: http://qmail.jms1.net/patches/combined-details.shtml near the bottom of the page. *A self-written patch to add a real FORCE_TLS capability, for those who want a non-SSL server but don't want it to be able to accept mail without STARTTLS happening first. Creating an envrionment variable called FORCE_TLS with a numeric value greater than zero enables this behaviour. I'm not all that much of a C coder, but I might be able to try next week to possibly port this patch into the qmail-toaster SRPM. I scanned the big patch, and it honestly looks like there's only about 5 lines of changes involved with the FORCE_TLS coding. It would take me a lot of work however, and it might be quite easy for one of you who has better coding capability to pick out what's involved to implement this option. If I do get a chance to play with it and make it work, I'll certainly contribute the patch back to the project! Thanks! Jeremy - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: upon reboot the webserver is goofed
On 2/4/2011 3:41 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: you do not have to reboot the server in the future to fix this issue. Just reboot the service service httpd restart and it will happily ask you for the phrase again. thanks G - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
