Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster

2010-10-12 Thread Michael King
Jake

Looking at the settings for chkuser it has a hard-coded value of 
bounce-no-mailbox (actually a #define of CHKUSER_BOUNCE_STRING).  This string 
must be in the first 1024 characters of the .qmail mailbox.

Perhaps yours is farther down?

Regards
Mike

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jake Vickers 
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and 
Qmailtoaster


  On 10/11/2010 05:53 PM, Michael King wrote: 
Eric

Eureka!!!

By changing the value in the .qmail-default file from
| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox
To
| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' delete

The problem was solved. 
It looks like the chkuser logic will only allow ezmlm messages through if 
messages are to be deleted. 

My guess is that the qmail logic doesn't properly handle the extensions and 
since its told to bounce invalid users it does so during the initial handshake. 
Removing the bounce-no-mailbox means the system will let it through and 
vpopmail has to sort it out.

Probably an error in the chkuser code in that it doesn't check -xxx 
extensions properly.

Again thanks -- you are lifesaver.  Now off to load all the old postings 
and email addresses.



  This needs some more investigation - it does indeed work with 
bounce-no-mailbox. It's what this mailing list's server uses :)



Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster

2010-10-11 Thread Michael King
Help..

Seems nobody has an answer for me so I have been digging and got a little 
further.

The problem appears to be within the qmail-smtpd program and its validation of 
incoming email addresses.

When I manually tried

./qmail-smptd
rcpt to: maillist at mydomain.com

The smptd server accepts the address however when I tried and email with the 
following

rcpt to: maillist-subscribe at mydomain.com

It rejects the address.

A little further checking and it appears the issue may be the 'chkuser' 
settings in the standard qmail-toaster install although I have no idea how to 
determine what they were.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

I need to get these mailing list up and running and without any way for users 
to subscribe, unsubscribe and get digests I'm stuck.

Regards
Mike


  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael King 
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:10 PM
  Subject: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster


  I just installed the lastest qmailtoaster on Centos and have been testing 
  out EZMLM.

  While I have been able to get EZMLM to work by adding subscribers manually 
  on the server, however sending an email to

  maillist-subscr...@mydomain.com

  Is being rejected with the message

  67.213.69.170 does not like recipient.
  Remote host said: 511 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 - chkuser)

  I did a little digging and it looks like the .qmail-mailist-default in the 
  vpopmail/domains/mydomain.com it not being processed.

  I found I could make the -subscribe work if I copied (or linked) the 
  .qmail-maillist-default to .qmail-maillist-subscribe.  Basically this has 
  led me to beleive that the -default extension is not being properly 
  honoured.

  My guess is the issue may be within the vpopmail deliver code or perhaps the 
  default install doesn't include the qmail-ext option.

  Here are what I think are the revalent version numbers:

  qmail-toaster.i686 1.03-1.3.20
  qmailtoaster-plus.noarch 0.3.1-1.4.15
  qmailtoaster-plus.repo.noarch 0.2-2
  vpopmail-toaster.i686 5.4.17-1.3.7

  Any help in getting this working would be appreciated. (I can setup the 
  links in the interim but its not a great solution).

  Regards
  Mike 


  
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster

2010-10-11 Thread Michael King
Eric

Thanks -- for the info.  I finally kinda figured out that it was qmail-smptd 
that was rejecting the email. 

I'm guessing that the 'chkuser' patches are applied to the version of qmail 
that the toaster installs, and my concern is that the default config for 
chkuser is not correct -- but again thats just a guess.

I will try delete-no-mailbox setting and see if that makes a difference.

In theory I guess I could use mailman, just that we are porting 4 mail lists 
that currently are running on ezmlm and it was pre-configured in the toaster.

Again, thanks, I will let you know if I figure this out.
Mike


  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Shubert 
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:15 PM
  Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster


  Hey Michael.

  I use mailman instead of ezmlm, but maybe I can lend a hand.

  The -whatever in the email address is a feature of qmail, and should not 
  be rejected.

  I wonder if ezmlm perhaps doesn't work with the bounce-no-mailbox 
  setting. I'd try with a catchall account, then with delete-no-mailbox 
  and see if one or both of those work.

  Perhaps Tonix could shed some light on this. It sure looks like chkuser 
  is blocking it when it shouldn't be.

  -- 
  -Eric 'shubes'


  On 10/11/2010 12:33 PM, Michael King wrote:
   Help..
   Seems nobody has an answer for me so I have been digging and got a
   little further.
   The problem appears to be within the qmail-smtpd program and its
   validation of incoming email addresses.
   When I manually tried
   ./qmail-smptd
   rcpt to: maillist at mydomain.com
   The smptd server accepts the address however when I tried and email with
   the following
   rcpt to: maillist-subscribe at mydomain.com
   It rejects the address.
   A little further checking and it appears the issue may be the 'chkuser'
   settings in the standard qmail-toaster install although I have no idea
   how to determine what they were.
   Any assistance would be appreciated.
   I need to get these mailing list up and running and without any way for
   users to subscribe, unsubscribe and get digests I'm stuck.
   Regards
   Mike
  
   - Original Message -
   *From:* Michael King mailto:mike.k...@pvxplus.com
   *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
   mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
   *Sent:* Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:10 PM
   *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Problem with Mail list management and
   Qmailtoaster
  
   I just installed the lastest qmailtoaster on Centos and have been
   testing
   out EZMLM.
  
   While I have been able to get EZMLM to work by adding subscribers
   manually
   on the server, however sending an email to
  
   maillist-subscr...@mydomain.com mailto:maillist-subscr...@mydomain.com
  
   Is being rejected with the message
  
   67.213.69.170 does not like recipient.
   Remote host said: 511 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 -
   chkuser)
  
   I did a little digging and it looks like the .qmail-mailist-default
   in the
   vpopmail/domains/mydomain.com it not being processed.
  
   I found I could make the -subscribe work if I copied (or linked) the
   .qmail-maillist-default to .qmail-maillist-subscribe. Basically this
   has
   led me to beleive that the -default extension is not being properly
   honoured.
  
   My guess is the issue may be within the vpopmail deliver code or
   perhaps the
   default install doesn't include the qmail-ext option.
  
   Here are what I think are the revalent version numbers:
  
   qmail-toaster.i686 1.03-1.3.20
   qmailtoaster-plus.noarch 0.3.1-1.4.15
   qmailtoaster-plus.repo.noarch 0.2-2
   vpopmail-toaster.i686 5.4.17-1.3.7
  
   Any help in getting this working would be appreciated. (I can setup the
   links in the interim but its not a great solution).
  
   Regards
   Mike
  
  
   
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster

2010-10-11 Thread Michael King
Eric

Eureka!!!

By changing the value in the .qmail-default file from
| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox
To
| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' delete

The problem was solved. 
It looks like the chkuser logic will only allow ezmlm messages through if 
messages are to be deleted. 

My guess is that the qmail logic doesn't properly handle the extensions and 
since its told to bounce invalid users it does so during the initial handshake. 
Removing the bounce-no-mailbox means the system will let it through and 
vpopmail has to sort it out.

Probably an error in the chkuser code in that it doesn't check -xxx extensions 
properly.

Again thanks -- you are lifesaver.  Now off to load all the old postings and 
email addresses.

Mike

  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael King 
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and 
Qmailtoaster


  Eric

  Thanks -- for the info.  I finally kinda figured out that it was qmail-smptd 
that was rejecting the email. 

  I'm guessing that the 'chkuser' patches are applied to the version of qmail 
that the toaster installs, and my concern is that the default config for 
chkuser is not correct -- but again thats just a guess.

  I will try delete-no-mailbox setting and see if that makes a difference.

  In theory I guess I could use mailman, just that we are porting 4 mail lists 
that currently are running on ezmlm and it was pre-configured in the toaster.

  Again, thanks, I will let you know if I figure this out.
  Mike


- Original Message - 
From: Eric Shubert 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:15 PM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problem with Mail list management and 
Qmailtoaster


Hey Michael.

I use mailman instead of ezmlm, but maybe I can lend a hand.

The -whatever in the email address is a feature of qmail, and should not 
be rejected.

I wonder if ezmlm perhaps doesn't work with the bounce-no-mailbox 
setting. I'd try with a catchall account, then with delete-no-mailbox 
and see if one or both of those work.

Perhaps Tonix could shed some light on this. It sure looks like chkuser 
is blocking it when it shouldn't be.

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'


On 10/11/2010 12:33 PM, Michael King wrote:
 Help..
 Seems nobody has an answer for me so I have been digging and got a
 little further.
 The problem appears to be within the qmail-smtpd program and its
 validation of incoming email addresses.
 When I manually tried
 ./qmail-smptd
 rcpt to: maillist at mydomain.com
 The smptd server accepts the address however when I tried and email with
 the following
 rcpt to: maillist-subscribe at mydomain.com
 It rejects the address.
 A little further checking and it appears the issue may be the 'chkuser'
 settings in the standard qmail-toaster install although I have no idea
 how to determine what they were.
 Any assistance would be appreciated.
 I need to get these mailing list up and running and without any way for
 users to subscribe, unsubscribe and get digests I'm stuck.
 Regards
 Mike

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Michael King mailto:mike.k...@pvxplus.com
 *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:10 PM
 *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Problem with Mail list management and
 Qmailtoaster

 I just installed the lastest qmailtoaster on Centos and have been
 testing
 out EZMLM.

 While I have been able to get EZMLM to work by adding subscribers
 manually
 on the server, however sending an email to

 maillist-subscr...@mydomain.com 
mailto:maillist-subscr...@mydomain.com

 Is being rejected with the message

 67.213.69.170 does not like recipient.
 Remote host said: 511 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 -
 chkuser)

 I did a little digging and it looks like the .qmail-mailist-default
 in the
 vpopmail/domains/mydomain.com it not being processed.

 I found I could make the -subscribe work if I copied (or linked) the
 .qmail-maillist-default to .qmail-maillist-subscribe. Basically this
 has
 led me to beleive that the -default extension is not being properly
 honoured.

 My guess is the issue may be within the vpopmail deliver code or
 perhaps the
 default install doesn't include the qmail-ext option.

 Here are what I think are the revalent version numbers:

 qmail-toaster.i686 1.03-1.3.20
 qmailtoaster-plus.noarch 0.3.1-1.4.15
 qmailtoaster-plus.repo.noarch 0.2-2

[qmailtoaster] Problem with Mail list management and Qmailtoaster

2010-10-02 Thread Michael King
I just installed the lastest qmailtoaster on Centos and have been testing 
out EZMLM.


While I have been able to get EZMLM to work by adding subscribers manually 
on the server, however sending an email to


   maillist-subscr...@mydomain.com

Is being rejected with the message

67.213.69.170 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 511 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 - chkuser)

I did a little digging and it looks like the .qmail-mailist-default in the 
vpopmail/domains/mydomain.com it not being processed.


I found I could make the -subscribe work if I copied (or linked) the 
.qmail-maillist-default to .qmail-maillist-subscribe.  Basically this has 
led me to beleive that the -default extension is not being properly 
honoured.


My guess is the issue may be within the vpopmail deliver code or perhaps the 
default install doesn't include the qmail-ext option.


Here are what I think are the revalent version numbers:

   qmail-toaster.i686 1.03-1.3.20
   qmailtoaster-plus.noarch 0.3.1-1.4.15
   qmailtoaster-plus.repo.noarch 0.2-2
   vpopmail-toaster.i686 5.4.17-1.3.7

Any help in getting this working would be appreciated. (I can setup the 
links in the interim but its not a great solution).


Regards
Mike 



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