[qmailtoaster] Re: Reverse DNS does not match SMTP Banner

2010-10-20 Thread Eric Shubert
Amit is correct. It might effect spam scoring (I don't know that it 
does), but it should not prevent acceptance by the destination server. 
Here's what RFC 2821 says about this:


  An SMTP server MAY verify that the domain name parameter in the EHLO
   command actually corresponds to the IP address of the client.
   However, the server MUST NOT refuse to accept a message for this
   reason if the verification fails: the information about verification
   failure is for logging and tracing only.

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-Eric 'shubes'


On 10/20/2010 11:13 AM, Amit Dalia wrote:

Hi Christian,

Please find mxtoolbox output below:

220 relay.that-aviation.com - Welcome SMTP Server ESMTP


Not an open relay.
0 seconds - Good on Connection time
2.153 seconds - Good on Transaction time
OK - 151.1.205.164 resolves to relay.that-aviation.com
OK - Reverse DNS matches SMTP Banner

Even if RDNS doesn't match with SMTP banner as far as I know it won't
affect your mailing.

Regards,

Amit

At Wednesday, 20-10-2010 on 23:22 Christian Ferrati wrote:

Hi,

I have a problem with my smtp server

If I test my server with mxtoolbox.com, receive this warning
message: “Reverse DNS does not match SMTP Banner”.

http://www.mxtoolbox.com/public/images/btn_green.gifNot an open relay.
http://www.mxtoolbox.com/public/images/btn_green.gif 0 seconds -
Good on Connection time
http://www.mxtoolbox.com/public/images/btn_green.gif 2.122 seconds -
Good on Transaction time
http://www.mxtoolbox.com/public/images/btn_green.gif OK -
151.1.205.164 resolves to relay.that-aviation.com
http://www.mxtoolbox.com/public/images/btn_yellow.gif Warning -
Reverse DNS does not match SMTP Banner

My server hostname is: relay.that-aviation.com and with dig tools,
all answer section are correct:

164.205.1.151.in-addr.arpa. 14400 IN PTR relay.that-aviation.com.

that-aviation.com. 86400 IN MX 10 relay.that-aviation.com.

Ho I can fix the problem?

With this problem I have problems to send e-mails with some provider
or client?

Thank you very much

Christian Ferrati

Dipartimento Tecnico/Sistemi

Smartcom SpA

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Reverse DNS does not match SMTP Banner

2010-10-20 Thread Tony White

Hi folks,
 Is this the same issue you are discussing please?

Remote host said: 554 This server requires PTR for unauthenticated connections.



On 21/10/2010 7:11 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
Amit is correct. It might effect spam scoring (I don't know that it does), but it should not prevent acceptance by the 
destination server.



Here's what RFC 2821 says about this:

  An SMTP server MAY verify that the domain name parameter in the EHLO
   command actually corresponds to the IP address of the client.
   However, the server MUST NOT refuse to accept a message for this
   reason if the verification fails: the information about verification
   failure is for logging and tracing only.



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  Tony White



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[qmailtoaster] Re: Reverse DNS does not match SMTP Banner

2010-10-20 Thread Eric Shubert
No, but it's related. Your sever's IP address must have an rDNS entry 
(maintained by your ISP) in order for most servers to receive mail from 
you. The rDNS entry should also be resolvable.


What we're saying here, however, is that the rDNS name does not need to 
match the name provided in the EHLO greeting (smtpgreeting file).


BL, the 554 error you have indicates that there is no rDNS for your 
server's IP address, or perhaps if there is an rDNS that it's not 
resolvable.


The 'host' command is handy for checking this.
$ host qmailtoaster.com
qmailtoaster.com has address 66.226.75.14
qmailtoaster.com mail is handled by 10 mail.qmailtoaster.com.
$ host mail.qmailtoaster.com
mail.qmailtoaster.com has address 70.60.227.157
$ host 70.60.227.157
157.227.60.70.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer mail.qmailtoaster.com.
$

In this case, you see that the pointer (last line) is 
mail.qmailtoaster.com. This is good and clear, but not necessary. It 
could resolve to somehost.somedomain.com and things would still work, 
just so long as somehost.somedomain.com resolved to an IP address. It 
wouldn't necessarily need to resolve to your server's address, but it's 
nice when it does.


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On 10/20/2010 04:18 PM, Tony White wrote:

Hi folks,
Is this the same issue you are discussing please?

Remote host said: 554 This server requires PTR for unauthenticated
connections.



On 21/10/2010 7:11 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

Amit is correct. It might effect spam scoring (I don't know that it
does), but it should not prevent acceptance by the destination server.



Here's what RFC 2821 says about this:

 An SMTP server MAY verify that the domain name parameter in the EHLO
command actually corresponds to the IP address of the client.
However, the server MUST NOT refuse to accept a message for this
reason if the verification fails: the information about verification
failure is for logging and tracing only.







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[qmailtoaster] Re: Reverse DNS does not match SMTP Banner

2010-10-20 Thread Eric Shubert

On 10/20/2010 06:35 PM, Tony White wrote:

Hi Eric,
Thanks for the answer! I assume then that an A record is not
sufficient for this response? The server had an A record but no
PTR. I would have thought an A record would suffice?


An A record is enough to find the server, but checking the rDNS (PTR) 
record for the address is an anti-spam measure. spamdyke does this, in 
addition to several other tests.



Should I ask the sysadmin why they chose to recognise only
PTR records?


No, you should ask your ISP to create an rDNS record for the IP address 
that your QMT host is on.


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-Eric 'shubes'


On 21/10/2010 11:19 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

No, but it's related. Your sever's IP address must have an rDNS entry
(maintained by your ISP) in order for most servers to receive mail
from you. The rDNS entry should also be resolvable.

What we're saying here, however, is that the rDNS name does not need
to match the name provided in the EHLO greeting (smtpgreeting file).

BL, the 554 error you have indicates that there is no rDNS for your
server's IP address, or perhaps if there is an rDNS that it's not
resolvable.

The 'host' command is handy for checking this.
$ host qmailtoaster.com
qmailtoaster.com has address 66.226.75.14
qmailtoaster.com mail is handled by 10 mail.qmailtoaster.com.
$ host mail.qmailtoaster.com
mail.qmailtoaster.com has address 70.60.227.157
$ host 70.60.227.157
157.227.60.70.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer mail.qmailtoaster.com.
$

In this case, you see that the pointer (last line) is
mail.qmailtoaster.com. This is good and clear, but not necessary. It
could resolve to somehost.somedomain.com and things would still work,
just so long as somehost.somedomain.com resolved to an IP address. It
wouldn't necessarily need to resolve to your server's address, but
it's nice when it does.







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