Re: [qmailtoaster] Stupid ISP's.

2007-02-05 Thread dan page 
I work for a Wireless ISP out in boonies in Minnesota.  We had a similar 
problem working with qwest.  Their attitude towards your mail is:  "Your 
mail, you mean our mail right?"  

We were lucky enough to find a great competitive carrier.  We liked em 
so much we are now an authorized agent. There dsl is cheaper and its 
Sdsl which is great because Mail is mostly symmetric.  They block no 
ports AND you get a static IP included. (I know sounds almost to good to 
be true).  Anyway if you live in a qwest served region look Into Integra 
Telecom.   Or if you want I can get you a quote.  They require you buy 1 
of their lines to get the dsl and you have to use there modem, but its a 
pairgain modem and it seems to work better than actiontec, at least in 
my experience.   They even let us use there DSL for our wireless 
hotspots, which most providers won't (qwest will surprisingly).  K I'll 
stop here, since this is starting to sound like a commercial. 

Bottom Line, Stay away from the ILEC's and look at resellers, there are 
a ton of em and they really do care about their customers.


Just my 2 cents

Dan Page

Eric "Shubes" wrote:


Vince Callaway wrote:
 


Today is my day for dealing with stupidity.

First item is my ISP (centurytel) has decided to do header re-writes on
outbound mail.  Every piece of mail leaving my server had the from
address re-wrote to be from my fully qualified server name.  So much for
having virtual domains on my box.  When I called and bitched they stated
it was to cut down on forged spam headers.  I politely explained that
they should implement smtp authentication and to leave my headers alone.
They were clueless.

Fortunately a friend has a server co-located at godaddy.  I setup smtp
authorization on it and I'm back up and running.
   



I'd say you're lucky on this count. My ISP (Qwest) won't even let me send
mail from my domain (with authentication) through their mail server. Sending
addresses have to belong to the(ir) account.

I send out some stuff directly, but more and more as receiving MTAs block
dynamic addresses, I use dyndns's mailhop service, which has worked well for me.

 


The second clueless ISP is Clearwire.

After spending the good part of the weekend trying to figure out why
inbound mail and web were not working I called tech support.  The guy on
the phone told me they block those ports for dynamic IP.  For only $10 a
month more I can get a static IP and they will open up port 25, but not
port 80.
   



QWest can't even offer me a static address, as they have VDSL in my area.
They're not blocking ports though (yet, knock wood).

 


After talking with a supervisor he tells me they wont open the port and
the only people who can authorize it are the network operations center.
He is not allowed to connect me to them or give me the phone number.

I ask him to show me on the website where they state they do any port
blocking.  After fumbling about for 5 minutes he tells me to search for
"legal" and I will find a service agreement that states they have the
right to protect their network.  Clueless.

I'm not letting clearwire off the hook.  They completely misrepresented
the service.

   



Good luck finding a good ISP. There are some out there, in some areas.

 




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Stupid ISP's.

2007-02-05 Thread Vince Callaway 
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 19:47 -0700, Eric "Shubes" wrote:
> Good luck finding a good ISP. There are some out there, in some areas.

I sold my ISP business almost 10 years ago.  If one of my employees had
talked to someone the way this guy at clearwire talked to me I would
have fired him on the spot.

I'm going to drop a server at a local co-location facility to provide
mail routing for mine and my clients servers.  I will not be held
hostage by an ISP with an attitude problem.


These big ISP's have no idea how bad their policies are for everyone.
They think they are doing a good thing, but in reality they are breaking
down the fundamental core.  Everyone might as well just use AOL and be
held hostage by ads and only seeing what they think you need to see.
Kinda like China.





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Re: [qmailtoaster] Stupid ISP's.

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \"Shubes\" 
Vince Callaway wrote:
> Today is my day for dealing with stupidity.
> 
> First item is my ISP (centurytel) has decided to do header re-writes on
> outbound mail.  Every piece of mail leaving my server had the from
> address re-wrote to be from my fully qualified server name.  So much for
> having virtual domains on my box.  When I called and bitched they stated
> it was to cut down on forged spam headers.  I politely explained that
> they should implement smtp authentication and to leave my headers alone.
> They were clueless.
> 
> Fortunately a friend has a server co-located at godaddy.  I setup smtp
> authorization on it and I'm back up and running.

I'd say you're lucky on this count. My ISP (Qwest) won't even let me send
mail from my domain (with authentication) through their mail server. Sending
addresses have to belong to the(ir) account.

I send out some stuff directly, but more and more as receiving MTAs block
dynamic addresses, I use dyndns's mailhop service, which has worked well for me.

> The second clueless ISP is Clearwire.
> 
> After spending the good part of the weekend trying to figure out why
> inbound mail and web were not working I called tech support.  The guy on
> the phone told me they block those ports for dynamic IP.  For only $10 a
> month more I can get a static IP and they will open up port 25, but not
> port 80.

QWest can't even offer me a static address, as they have VDSL in my area.
They're not blocking ports though (yet, knock wood).

> After talking with a supervisor he tells me they wont open the port and
> the only people who can authorize it are the network operations center.
> He is not allowed to connect me to them or give me the phone number.
> 
> I ask him to show me on the website where they state they do any port
> blocking.  After fumbling about for 5 minutes he tells me to search for
> "legal" and I will find a service agreement that states they have the
> right to protect their network.  Clueless.
> 
> I'm not letting clearwire off the hook.  They completely misrepresented
> the service.
> 

Good luck finding a good ISP. There are some out there, in some areas.

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'

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[qmailtoaster] Stupid ISP's.

2007-02-05 Thread Vince Callaway 
Today is my day for dealing with stupidity.

First item is my ISP (centurytel) has decided to do header re-writes on
outbound mail.  Every piece of mail leaving my server had the from
address re-wrote to be from my fully qualified server name.  So much for
having virtual domains on my box.  When I called and bitched they stated
it was to cut down on forged spam headers.  I politely explained that
they should implement smtp authentication and to leave my headers alone.
They were clueless.

Fortunately a friend has a server co-located at godaddy.  I setup smtp
authorization on it and I'm back up and running.

The second clueless ISP is Clearwire.

After spending the good part of the weekend trying to figure out why
inbound mail and web were not working I called tech support.  The guy on
the phone told me they block those ports for dynamic IP.  For only $10 a
month more I can get a static IP and they will open up port 25, but not
port 80.

After talking with a supervisor he tells me they wont open the port and
the only people who can authorize it are the network operations center.
He is not allowed to connect me to them or give me the phone number.

I ask him to show me on the website where they state they do any port
blocking.  After fumbling about for 5 minutes he tells me to search for
"legal" and I will find a service agreement that states they have the
right to protect their network.  Clueless.

I'm not letting clearwire off the hook.  They completely misrepresented
the service.




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