Re: [qmailtoaster] duplicate mail

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert
Looks like it might work. Some of the time. It's not 100%, as you might 
get dups when the hash file rolls over. It's sort of crude, but might 
meet your objective.


Like Jake said though, I'm not sure this solves the real problem, which 
lies in how the duplicates come into being in the first place.


Duplicates can also come about due to server performance problems. If 
you implement this script, it will mask these other duplicates as well, 
and you might not have any other evidence that a problem exists. This 
could be dangerous.


Jinu wrote:

Hi

 

Logically it has to deliver two copies in properly working environment, 
here I have enclosed the script which referred for the same.


 

Please check and suggest whether my requirement is possible with below 
script.


 


Thanks

Jinu

 


#! /usr/bin/perl

#--

# Copyright 2006 Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or

# modify it under the same terms as Perl itself.

#--

#

#

# Modified for use with vpopmail

# by Chris Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# originally by Russell Nelson, http://www.qmail.org/eliminate-dups

#

#

# Now, if delivery to the mbox is deferred, eliminate-dups will NOT be

# run a second time for the same message.

#

# Set up ~vpopmail/domains/domain.com/.qmail-default as follows:

#

#  | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' [EMAIL PROTECTED]

#

# Then create a ~vpopmail/domains/domain.com/.qmail-delivery file as 
follows:


#

#  |bin/eliminate-dups domain.com duphash

#  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

#

# Now, if delivery to the mbox is deferred, eliminate-dups will NOT be

# run a second time for the same message.

 


my $basedir = /home/vpopmail/domains;

 


my $domainname = shift;

my $hname = shift;

my $hashname = $basedir/$domainname/$hname;

 


use Digest::MD5;

$md5 = new Digest::MD5;

 


$loose = 1; # loose matching if set.

 


while() {

   last if /^$/;

   next if $ignore_continue  /^\s/;

   $ignore_continue = 0;

   if (/^received:/i) {

   $ignore_continue = 1;

   next;

   }

   if (!$loose) {

   $headers .= $_;

   next;

   }

   if ($keep_continue  /^\s/) {

   $headers .= $_;

   next;

   }

   $keep_continue = 0;

   if (m/^(from|message-id|date):/i) {

   $headers .= $_;

   $keep_continue = 1;

   next;

   }

   next;

}

 


$md5-add($headers);

$md5-addfile(STDIN);

$hash = $md5-hexdigest;

print $headers Our hash:$hash\n;

 


if (open(HASH, $hashname.newer)) {

   flock(HASH, 2);

   while(HASH) { chomp; exit 99 if $_ eq $hash; }

}

open(HASH, $hashname.older) || die $0: Cannot open $hashname.older;

while(HASH) { chomp; exit 99 if $_ eq $hash; }

 


# roll the files once a week.

if (-M $hashname.older  7) {

rename($hashname.newer, $hashname.older) || die $0: Unable to move 
newer to older;


}

 


# add the hash to the received messages list.

open(HASH, $hashname.newer) || die $0: Cannot append to 
$hashname.newer;


print HASH $hash\n;

close(HASH);

 


print Original message;

exit 0;

 

   

 


*From:* Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2009 4:49 PM
*To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
*Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] duplicate mail

 


Jinu wrote:

Hi

 

I using mail server prepared through qmail toaster. Here I’m facing 
problem with duplicate mails. If I send mail to multiple alias where 
same ID included in both alias, two mails will be delivered to user. I 
just come across the script called eliminate dups. Please help me to 
implement the same or suggest some solution as I’m new to qmail.


 


Thanks

Jinu   

 

 



Doesn't this seem like logical behavior? If you send two copies of the 
same message to the same use, shouldn't they then get 2 copies?
I'd suggest instead of adding a script (I've never heard of your script 
before) that you rethink the logic of your mail delivery and adjust to 
not create the problem in the first place, instead of creating the 
problem and then adding other modifications to then fix the problem you 
created.

Just my opinion.




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[qmailtoaster] duplicate mail

2009-08-18 Thread Jinu
Hi

 

I using mail server prepared through qmail toaster. Here I'm facing problem
with duplicate mails. If I send mail to multiple alias where same ID
included in both alias, two mails will be delivered to user. I just come
across the script called eliminate dups. Please help me to implement the
same or suggest some solution as I'm new to qmail.

 

Thanks

Jinu   

 

 



Re: [qmailtoaster] duplicate mail

2009-08-18 Thread Jake Vickers

Jinu wrote:


Hi

 

I using mail server prepared through qmail toaster. Here I'm facing 
problem with duplicate mails. If I send mail to multiple alias where 
same ID included in both alias, two mails will be delivered to user. I 
just come across the script called eliminate dups. Please help me to 
implement the same or suggest some solution as I'm new to qmail.


 


Thanks

Jinu   

 

 



Doesn't this seem like logical behavior? If you send two copies of the 
same message to the same use, shouldn't they then get 2 copies?
I'd suggest instead of adding a script (I've never heard of your script 
before) that you rethink the logic of your mail delivery and adjust to 
not create the problem in the first place, instead of creating the 
problem and then adding other modifications to then fix the problem you 
created.

Just my opinion.



RE: [qmailtoaster] duplicate mail

2009-08-18 Thread Jinu
Hi

 

Logically it has to deliver two copies in properly working environment, here
I have enclosed the script which referred for the same. 

 

Please check and suggest whether my requirement is possible with below
script.

 

Thanks

Jinu

 

#! /usr/bin/perl

#--

# Copyright 2006 Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or

# modify it under the same terms as Perl itself.

#--

#

#

# Modified for use with vpopmail

# by Chris Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# originally by Russell Nelson, http://www.qmail.org/eliminate-dups

#

#

# Now, if delivery to the mbox is deferred, eliminate-dups will NOT be

# run a second time for the same message.

#

# Set up ~vpopmail/domains/domain.com/.qmail-default as follows:

#

#  | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' [EMAIL PROTECTED]

#

# Then create a ~vpopmail/domains/domain.com/.qmail-delivery file as
follows: 

#

#  |bin/eliminate-dups domain.com duphash

#  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

#

# Now, if delivery to the mbox is deferred, eliminate-dups will NOT be

# run a second time for the same message.

 

my $basedir = /home/vpopmail/domains;

 

my $domainname = shift;

my $hname = shift;

my $hashname = $basedir/$domainname/$hname;

 

use Digest::MD5;

$md5 = new Digest::MD5;

 

$loose = 1; # loose matching if set.

 

while() {

   last if /^$/;

   next if $ignore_continue  /^\s/;

   $ignore_continue = 0;

   if (/^received:/i) {

   $ignore_continue = 1;

   next;

   }

   if (!$loose) {

   $headers .= $_;

   next;

   }

   if ($keep_continue  /^\s/) {

   $headers .= $_;

   next;

   }

   $keep_continue = 0;

   if (m/^(from|message-id|date):/i) {

   $headers .= $_;

   $keep_continue = 1;

   next;

   }

   next;

}

 

$md5-add($headers);

$md5-addfile(STDIN);

$hash = $md5-hexdigest;

print $headers Our hash:$hash\n;

 

if (open(HASH, $hashname.newer)) {

   flock(HASH, 2);

   while(HASH) { chomp; exit 99 if $_ eq $hash; }

}

open(HASH, $hashname.older) || die $0: Cannot open $hashname.older;

while(HASH) { chomp; exit 99 if $_ eq $hash; }

 

# roll the files once a week.

if (-M $hashname.older  7) {

rename($hashname.newer, $hashname.older) || die $0: Unable to move
newer to older; 

}

 

# add the hash to the received messages list.

open(HASH, $hashname.newer) || die $0: Cannot append to
$hashname.newer; 

print HASH $hash\n;

close(HASH);

 

print Original message;

exit 0;

 

   

 

From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 4:49 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] duplicate mail

 

Jinu wrote: 

Hi

 

I using mail server prepared through qmail toaster. Here I'm facing problem
with duplicate mails. If I send mail to multiple alias where same ID
included in both alias, two mails will be delivered to user. I just come
across the script called eliminate dups. Please help me to implement the
same or suggest some solution as I'm new to qmail.

 

Thanks

Jinu   

 

 


Doesn't this seem like logical behavior? If you send two copies of the same
message to the same use, shouldn't they then get 2 copies?
I'd suggest instead of adding a script (I've never heard of your script
before) that you rethink the logic of your mail delivery and adjust to not
create the problem in the first place, instead of creating the problem and
then adding other modifications to then fix the problem you created.
Just my opinion.



Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-06-06 Thread Jake Vickers

Peter Peltonen wrote:

What does this throttling mean:

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Kyle Quillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

First of all, throttle SMTP traffic with iptables to prevent excessive
connections (and resultant spamd/clamd instances) in the first place:

-A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -m
recent --set
-A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -m
recent --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 12 -j DROP



Does it mean that if you get more than 12 SMTP attempts from the the
same client in 60 seconds you drop the rest? Have you seen from logs
some client doing more than 12 attemps in 1 minute? Is there some
possible downsides for this?
  


That does mean that if you get more than 12 connections on port 25 in a 
60 second timeframe by an IP you'll drop the rest of their connections 
from their IP at the firewall level.
It's not targeted at clients; it's targeted at spam servers. Some of 
them will connect 50 times or more at whatever rate their NIC can handle 
and try joe-jobbing your server.




Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-06-06 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote:
 Peter Peltonen wrote:
 What does this throttling mean:

 On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Kyle Quillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 First of all, throttle SMTP traffic with iptables to prevent excessive
 connections (and resultant spamd/clamd instances) in the first place:

 -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -m
 recent --set
 -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -m
 recent --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 12 -j DROP
 

 Does it mean that if you get more than 12 SMTP attempts from the the
 same client in 60 seconds you drop the rest? Have you seen from logs
 some client doing more than 12 attemps in 1 minute? Is there some
 possible downsides for this?
   
 
 That does mean that if you get more than 12 connections on port 25 in a
 60 second timeframe by an IP you'll drop the rest of their connections
 from their IP at the firewall level.
 It's not targeted at clients; it's targeted at spam servers. Some of
 them will connect 50 times or more at whatever rate their NIC can handle
 and try joe-jobbing your server.
 

Wouldn't this be a good thing to have in the stock toaster firewall?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-06-06 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote:
 Eric Shubert wrote:

 That does mean that if you get more than 12 connections on port 25 in a
 60 second timeframe by an IP you'll drop the rest of their connections
 from their IP at the firewall level.
 It's not targeted at clients; it's targeted at spam servers. Some of
 them will connect 50 times or more at whatever rate their NIC can handle
 and try joe-jobbing your server.

 

 Wouldn't this be a good thing to have in the stock toaster firewall?
   
 
 We had a discussion a couple years back on the development list (I think
 before you joined the project) and it was decided that the stock toaster
 would be targeted to be a just works install for small businesses and
 individuals.  The spam rules were left loose so that it would
 (hopefully) never reject legitimate emails, which was shooting for the
 goal of companies installing QMT to not having to worry about legitimate
 emails being lost from a stock install.  Those that want to customize it
 for their environments can do so, but to keep it a just works type
 thing a lot of things had to be left loose, if that makes sense.
 It was also targeted at smaller businesses, which is why some people
 complain that when they hit = 1000 users they have to do a lot of
 work to make it fit their environment.
 

This seems to me to be more of a DoS sort of thing, without which puts the
toaster more in a class of doesn't just work. ;)

No big deal either way I suppose.

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-06-03 Thread Sergio Minini {NETKEY}
You're welcome.
Hope this fixes it.

Sergio

 -Original Message-
 From: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:57 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives
 
 
 The server is an older one -- using an Athlon XP 2400+ CPU, 1GB RAM.
 
 Again, it hosts a single mail domain (well, really 2 -- one 
 aliased to 
 the other), and the problem showed up a few weeks after they were 
 upgraded to using SpamDyke.
 
 As I mentioned in an earlier (today) post, there was some 
 great info in 
 the archives (under a load-balancing thread of all places) at 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 /msg18986.html
 
 As my log files didn't show ANYTHING unusual, I have surmised 
 that the 
 REMOTE mail server timed out (or mine did) while processing 
 the message. 
 I cannot control the remote side, so I tried one of the 
 suggestions in 
 the above-mentioned thread -- I increased SpamDyke's idle 
 timeout value, 
 albeit not nearly as much as the suggested one: I doubled it to 120 
 (from 60) vs. the tread's suggestion of 400.
 
 Again, only time will tell and my silent (again) phone! :-)
 
 Again, thanks to Sergio Minini for the suggestion  pointer to that 
 particular thread in the archives
 
 Dan


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-06-02 Thread Dan McAllister
The e-mails show up in Outlook, but the header on each message is 
entirely unique -- so I would surmise that the message is coming in 
twice from the sending server. This leads me to believe that the Toaster 
isn't acknowledging something at the end of the receive, so the sender 
is re-sending in an incorrect belief that the message was NOT delivered 
previously.


This is really starting to annoy the owner (my client), but fortunately, 
his employees are not complaining (a mere nuisance to them).


As always, any help is appreciated!

Dan

Daniel McAllister, President

IT4SOHO, LLC
224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
727-647-7646 In Pinellas
813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
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António Pedro Lima wrote:

You say your client complains about getting duplicate emails.
Where does he see his emails?
Outlook? Or webmail?

-Mensagem original-
De: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada: terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2008 20:56

Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Assunto: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

Greetings all:

I have a client running a toaster (recently updated to the latest everything
on the QMT website) who is now suddenly receiving multiple copies of the
same email.

I have checked the qmail-smtp logs and see nothing unusual, and I have at
least 20 other sites using the exact same settings (for all but the domain
and user names) -- but this client is the only one complaining of duplicate
e-mails.

Any clues where to look??

Thankful for all your help...

Dan


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IT4SOHO, LLC
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St. Petersburg, FL 33701

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727-507-9435 Fax Only

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-06-02 Thread Kyle Quillen
Dan,

I know exactly what you are dealing with. 

Can you give us some specs as to what you are running and what are you
load averages and hardware of the server?

Thanks
Q


On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 15:19 -0400, Dan McAllister wrote:
 The e-mails show up in Outlook, but the header on each message is 
 entirely unique -- so I would surmise that the message is coming in 
 twice from the sending server. This leads me to believe that the Toaster 
 isn't acknowledging something at the end of the receive, so the sender 
 is re-sending in an incorrect belief that the message was NOT delivered 
 previously.
 
 This is really starting to annoy the owner (my client), but fortunately, 
 his employees are not complaining (a mere nuisance to them).
 
 As always, any help is appreciated!
 
 Dan
 
 Daniel McAllister, President
 
 IT4SOHO, LLC
 224 - 13th Avenue N
 St. Petersburg, FL 33701
 
 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
 727-647-7646 In Pinellas
 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
 727-507-9435 Fax Only
 
 When did you do your last backup?
 
 Ask me about unattended offsite backup solutions...
 to protect your business, not just your data!
 
 
 
 António Pedro Lima wrote:
  You say your client complains about getting duplicate emails.
  Where does he see his emails?
  Outlook? Or webmail?
 
  -Mensagem original-
  De: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Enviada: terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2008 20:56
  Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Assunto: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives
 
  Greetings all:
 
  I have a client running a toaster (recently updated to the latest everything
  on the QMT website) who is now suddenly receiving multiple copies of the
  same email.
 
  I have checked the qmail-smtp logs and see nothing unusual, and I have at
  least 20 other sites using the exact same settings (for all but the domain
  and user names) -- but this client is the only one complaining of duplicate
  e-mails.
 
  Any clues where to look??
 
  Thankful for all your help...
 
  Dan
 
 
  --
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  IT4SOHO, LLC
  224 - 13th Avenue N
  St. Petersburg, FL 33701
 
  877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
  727-647-7646 In Pinellas
  813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
  727-507-9435 Fax Only
 
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-06-02 Thread Dan Herbon
I upgraded to the latest version of toaster a week ago and it's been 1 week 
without any duplicates.

-Original Message-
From: Kyle Quillen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:43 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

Dan,

I know exactly what you are dealing with. 

Can you give us some specs as to what you are running and what are you
load averages and hardware of the server?

Thanks
Q


On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 15:19 -0400, Dan McAllister wrote:
 The e-mails show up in Outlook, but the header on each message is 
 entirely unique -- so I would surmise that the message is coming in 
 twice from the sending server. This leads me to believe that the Toaster 
 isn't acknowledging something at the end of the receive, so the sender 
 is re-sending in an incorrect belief that the message was NOT delivered 
 previously.
 
 This is really starting to annoy the owner (my client), but fortunately, 
 his employees are not complaining (a mere nuisance to them).
 
 As always, any help is appreciated!
 
 Dan
 
 Daniel McAllister, President
 
 IT4SOHO, LLC
 224 - 13th Avenue N
 St. Petersburg, FL 33701
 
 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
 727-647-7646 In Pinellas
 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
 727-507-9435 Fax Only
 
 When did you do your last backup?
 
 Ask me about unattended offsite backup solutions...
 to protect your business, not just your data!
 
 
 
 António Pedro Lima wrote:
  You say your client complains about getting duplicate emails.
  Where does he see his emails?
  Outlook? Or webmail?
 
  -Mensagem original-
  De: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Enviada: terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2008 20:56
  Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Assunto: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives
 
  Greetings all:
 
  I have a client running a toaster (recently updated to the latest everything
  on the QMT website) who is now suddenly receiving multiple copies of the
  same email.
 
  I have checked the qmail-smtp logs and see nothing unusual, and I have at
  least 20 other sites using the exact same settings (for all but the domain
  and user names) -- but this client is the only one complaining of duplicate
  e-mails.
 
  Any clues where to look??
 
  Thankful for all your help...
 
  Dan
 
 
  --
  Daniel McAllister, President
 
  IT4SOHO, LLC
  224 - 13th Avenue N
  St. Petersburg, FL 33701
 
  877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
  727-647-7646 In Pinellas
  813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
  727-507-9435 Fax Only
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-06-02 Thread Jake Vickers

Dan McAllister wrote:
The e-mails show up in Outlook, but the header on each message is 
entirely unique -- so I would surmise that the message is coming in 
twice from the sending server. This leads me to believe that the 
Toaster isn't acknowledging something at the end of the receive, so 
the sender is re-sending in an incorrect belief that the message was 
NOT delivered previously.


This is really starting to annoy the owner (my client), but 
fortunately, his employees are not complaining (a mere nuisance to them).


As always, any help is appreciated!


What do the logs show for the period of the duped message?
Are they running the spam box option?
Does the message show twice in webmail? (I've seen Outlook produce 
doubles, when only a single message was in webmail)

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-06-02 Thread Dan McAllister
Sorry for the duplication folks... seems my SPAM Filter suddenly 
decided that the list was SPAM (in spite of being specifically 
white-listed).


In any case, since my client hosts only their own email, but only 
recently upgraded to using SpamDyke, I set the idle-timeout-secs=120 in 
my spamdyke.conf file. Time will tell it that resolves the issue!


Thanks for the replies...

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Dan McAllister wrote:
The e-mails show up in Outlook, but the header on each message is 
entirely unique -- so I would surmise that the message is coming in 
twice from the sending server. This leads me to believe that the 
Toaster isn't acknowledging something at the end of the receive, so 
the sender is re-sending in an incorrect belief that the message was 
NOT delivered previously.


This is really starting to annoy the owner (my client), but 
fortunately, his employees are not complaining (a mere nuisance to them).


As always, any help is appreciated!

Dan

Daniel McAllister, President

IT4SOHO, LLC
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St. Petersburg, FL 33701

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António Pedro Lima wrote:

You say your client complains about getting duplicate emails.
Where does he see his emails?
Outlook? Or webmail?

-Mensagem original-
De: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: terça-feira, 27 
de Maio de 2008 20:56

Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Assunto: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

Greetings all:

I have a client running a toaster (recently updated to the latest 
everything

on the QMT website) who is now suddenly receiving multiple copies of the
same email.

I have checked the qmail-smtp logs and see nothing unusual, and I 
have at
least 20 other sites using the exact same settings (for all but the 
domain
and user names) -- but this client is the only one complaining of 
duplicate

e-mails.

Any clues where to look??

Thankful for all your help...

Dan


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-06-02 Thread Dan McAllister

The server is an older one -- using an Athlon XP 2400+ CPU, 1GB RAM.

Again, it hosts a single mail domain (well, really 2 -- one aliased to 
the other), and the problem showed up a few weeks after they were 
upgraded to using SpamDyke.


As I mentioned in an earlier (today) post, there was some great info in 
the archives (under a load-balancing thread of all places) at 
http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg18986.html


As my log files didn't show ANYTHING unusual, I have surmised that the 
REMOTE mail server timed out (or mine did) while processing the message. 
I cannot control the remote side, so I tried one of the suggestions in 
the above-mentioned thread -- I increased SpamDyke's idle timeout value, 
albeit not nearly as much as the suggested one: I doubled it to 120 
(from 60) vs. the tread's suggestion of 400.


Again, only time will tell and my silent (again) phone! :-)

Again, thanks to Sergio Minini for the suggestion  pointer to that 
particular thread in the archives


Dan

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Kyle Quillen wrote:

Dan,

I know exactly what you are dealing with. 


Can you give us some specs as to what you are running and what are you
load averages and hardware of the server?

Thanks
Q


On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 15:19 -0400, Dan McAllister wrote:
  
The e-mails show up in Outlook, but the header on each message is 
entirely unique -- so I would surmise that the message is coming in 
twice from the sending server. This leads me to believe that the Toaster 
isn't acknowledging something at the end of the receive, so the sender 
is re-sending in an incorrect belief that the message was NOT delivered 
previously.


This is really starting to annoy the owner (my client), but fortunately, 
his employees are not complaining (a mere nuisance to them).


As always, any help is appreciated!

Dan

Daniel McAllister, President

IT4SOHO, LLC
224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

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António Pedro Lima wrote:


You say your client complains about getting duplicate emails.
Where does he see his emails?
Outlook? Or webmail?

-Mensagem original-
De: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada: terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2008 20:56

Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Assunto: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

Greetings all:

I have a client running a toaster (recently updated to the latest everything
on the QMT website) who is now suddenly receiving multiple copies of the
same email.

I have checked the qmail-smtp logs and see nothing unusual, and I have at
least 20 other sites using the exact same settings (for all but the domain
and user names) -- but this client is the only one complaining of duplicate
e-mails.

Any clues where to look??

Thankful for all your help...

Dan


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-06-02 Thread Kyle Quillen
 was NOT delivered 
  previously.
 
  This is really starting to annoy the owner (my client), but fortunately, 
  his employees are not complaining (a mere nuisance to them).
 
  As always, any help is appreciated!
 
  Dan
 
  Daniel McAllister, President
 
  IT4SOHO, LLC
  224 - 13th Avenue N
  St. Petersburg, FL 33701
 
  877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
  727-647-7646 In Pinellas
  813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
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  António Pedro Lima wrote:
  
  You say your client complains about getting duplicate emails.
  Where does he see his emails?
  Outlook? Or webmail?
 
  -Mensagem original-
  De: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Enviada: terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2008 20:56
  Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Assunto: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives
 
  Greetings all:
 
  I have a client running a toaster (recently updated to the latest 
  everything
  on the QMT website) who is now suddenly receiving multiple copies of the
  same email.
 
  I have checked the qmail-smtp logs and see nothing unusual, and I have at
  least 20 other sites using the exact same settings (for all but the domain
  and user names) -- but this client is the only one complaining of 
  duplicate
  e-mails.
 
  Any clues where to look??
 
  Thankful for all your help...
 
  Dan
 
 
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  St. Petersburg, FL 33701
 
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  813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-05-28 Thread Dan Herbon
I have been battling this problem for over a month now. Everyone in my
entire company randomly gets duplicates. They appear in Outlook and in
Webmail. The duplicates come at random time intervals, sometimes 45 minutes
later, sometimes 3 hours. It’s just completely random.

 

My .qmail file is:

 

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter

 

 

 

From: senthil vel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:59 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

 

Check the /home/vpopmail/domainname/username/.qmail

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:13 AM, António Pedro Lima [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

You say your client complains about getting duplicate emails.
Where does he see his emails?
Outlook? Or webmail?

-Mensagem original-
De: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviada: terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2008 20:56
Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Assunto: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives


Greetings all:

I have a client running a toaster (recently updated to the latest everything
on the QMT website) who is now suddenly receiving multiple copies of the
same email.

I have checked the qmail-smtp logs and see nothing unusual, and I have at
least 20 other sites using the exact same settings (for all but the domain
and user names) -- but this client is the only one complaining of duplicate
e-mails.

Any clues where to look??

Thankful for all your help...

Dan


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St. Petersburg, FL 33701

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-05-28 Thread senthil vel
Check the /home/vpopmail/domainname/username/.qmail

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:13 AM, António Pedro Lima [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 You say your client complains about getting duplicate emails.
 Where does he see his emails?
 Outlook? Or webmail?

 -Mensagem original-
 De: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviada: terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2008 20:56
 Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Assunto: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

 Greetings all:

 I have a client running a toaster (recently updated to the latest
 everything
 on the QMT website) who is now suddenly receiving multiple copies of the
 same email.

 I have checked the qmail-smtp logs and see nothing unusual, and I have at
 least 20 other sites using the exact same settings (for all but the domain
 and user names) -- but this client is the only one complaining of duplicate
 e-mails.

 Any clues where to look??

 Thankful for all your help...

 Dan


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 St. Petersburg, FL 33701

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-05-28 Thread Sergio Minini {NETKEY}
Hi Dan,
you can try to search this issue on the list archives.
It was somehow covered last week in this topic:
http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg18986.html
Most of the times, duplicates come when a session times-out, with Clam and/or
SA.
 
Hope this helps.- Sergio

-Original Message-
From: Dan Herbon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:09 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives



I have been battling this problem for over a month now. Everyone in my entire
company randomly gets duplicates. They appear in Outlook and in Webmail. The
duplicates come at random time intervals, sometimes 45 minutes later, sometimes
3 hours. It’s just completely random.

 

My .qmail file is:

 

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster'
/etc/mail/mailfilter

 



Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-05-28 Thread Eric Shubert
I might add that the randomness is because the sending server(s) determine
when to retry sending. Each one is different. There is a method to the
madness after all. ;)

In general, duplicates will appear when an smtp session times out, which can
happen for any number of reasons. The first thing I'd check/do is turn off
spamassassin's bayes auto-expire. That can take quite some time depending on
your hardware.

Check the list archives for more on this cause and resolution. It'd be nice
if this were written up in the wiki faqs (if it's not already). Anyone care
to do this?

Sergio Minini {NETKEY} wrote:
 Hi Dan,
 you can try to search this issue on the list archives.
 It was somehow covered last week in this topic:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg18986.html
 Most of the times, duplicates come when a session times-out, with Clam
 and/or SA.
  
 Hope this helps.- Sergio
 
 -Original Message-
 *From:* Dan Herbon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:09 AM
 *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 *Subject:* RE: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives
 
 I have been battling this problem for over a month now. Everyone in
 my entire company randomly gets duplicates. They appear in Outlook
 and in Webmail. The duplicates come at random time intervals,
 sometimes 45 minutes later, sometimes 3 hours. It’s just completely
 random.
 
  
 
 My .qmail file is:
 
  
 
 |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
 maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
 
  
 


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[qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-05-27 Thread Dan McAllister

Greetings all:

I have a client running a toaster (recently updated to the latest 
everything on the QMT website) who is now suddenly receiving multiple 
copies of the same email.


I have checked the qmail-smtp logs and see nothing unusual, and I have 
at least 20 other sites using the exact same settings (for all but the 
domain and user names) -- but this client is the only one complaining of 
duplicate e-mails.


Any clues where to look??

Thankful for all your help...

Dan


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

2008-05-27 Thread António Pedro Lima
You say your client complains about getting duplicate emails.
Where does he see his emails?
Outlook? Or webmail?

-Mensagem original-
De: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada: terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2008 20:56
Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Assunto: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail Receives

Greetings all:

I have a client running a toaster (recently updated to the latest everything
on the QMT website) who is now suddenly receiving multiple copies of the
same email.

I have checked the qmail-smtp logs and see nothing unusual, and I have at
least 20 other sites using the exact same settings (for all but the domain
and user names) -- but this client is the only one complaining of duplicate
e-mails.

Any clues where to look??

Thankful for all your help...

Dan


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IT4SOHO, LLC
224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
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[qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail

2006-05-31 Thread toaster
hi,

i have a problem in my server.
i received Duplicate mails in my mail box every mail has two copy
this is not problem in all account only one account i facing this problem
How i solve This problem

Regards
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail

2006-05-31 Thread Mark Martin

We had this problem a while back, however, it only happened on attachments,
and there were more that 1 duplicate.   Turned out to be a bug 
maildrop.  I believe
the function was xfilter, since xfilter was 'C' code that did basically 
the same
thing as a 'popen', I changed 'xfilter' to 'cc', the problem stopped.  
Probably
a little more overhead with the 'cc' function in maildrop, but it fixed 
the problem.


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hi,

i have a problem in my server.
i received Duplicate mails in my mail box every mail has two copy
this is not problem in all account only one account i facing this problem
How i solve This problem

Regards
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail

2006-05-31 Thread John Q. Fernandez
I had the same issue but it might not be the same as yours, it happened
after i upgraded to the newest qmail-toaster. to resolve i removed the
.qmail file in the user's folder.

/home/vpopmail/domain/user/Maildir/.qmail

this is used for/by maildrop i think and maildrop is not supported from
what i understand since it breaks quota or vice versa.


 We had this problem a while back, however, it only happened on
 attachments,
 and there were more that 1 duplicate.   Turned out to be a bug
 maildrop.  I believe
 the function was xfilter, since xfilter was 'C' code that did basically
 the same
 thing as a 'popen', I changed 'xfilter' to 'cc', the problem stopped.
 Probably
 a little more overhead with the 'cc' function in maildrop, but it fixed
 the problem.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hi,

i have a problem in my server.
i received Duplicate mails in my mail box every mail has two copy
this is not problem in all account only one account i facing this problem
How i solve This problem

Regards
Devendra



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[qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail

2006-05-31 Thread toaster
Hi all

The Problem is still There only in one account in all mail accounts
i recived duplicate copy of every mail with or without attachment

regards
Devendra

 I had the same issue but it might not be the same as yours, it happened
 after i upgraded to the newest qmail-toaster. to resolve i removed the
 .qmail file in the user's folder.

 /home/vpopmail/domain/user/Maildir/.qmail

 this is used for/by maildrop i think and maildrop is not supported from
 what i understand since it breaks quota or vice versa.


 We had this problem a while back, however, it only happened on
 attachments,
 and there were more that 1 duplicate.   Turned out to be a bug
 maildrop.  I believe
 the function was xfilter, since xfilter was 'C' code that did basically
 the same
 thing as a 'popen', I changed 'xfilter' to 'cc', the problem stopped.
 Probably
 a little more overhead with the 'cc' function in maildrop, but it fixed
 the problem.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hi,

i have a problem in my server.
i received Duplicate mails in my mail box every mail has two copy
this is not problem in all account only one account i facing this
 problem
How i solve This problem

Regards
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail

2006-05-31 Thread jason p
You don't happen to be tapping this email address and sending the logs of
their email back to them?  I would think this would create an endless loop,
but I'm just kinda throwing out a quick suggestion...

Check your /var/qmail/control/taps file

-Jason

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:37 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail

Hi all

The Problem is still There only in one account in all mail accounts
i recived duplicate copy of every mail with or without attachment

regards
Devendra

 I had the same issue but it might not be the same as yours, it happened
 after i upgraded to the newest qmail-toaster. to resolve i removed the
 .qmail file in the user's folder.

 /home/vpopmail/domain/user/Maildir/.qmail

 this is used for/by maildrop i think and maildrop is not supported from
 what i understand since it breaks quota or vice versa.


 We had this problem a while back, however, it only happened on
 attachments,
 and there were more that 1 duplicate.   Turned out to be a bug
 maildrop.  I believe
 the function was xfilter, since xfilter was 'C' code that did basically
 the same
 thing as a 'popen', I changed 'xfilter' to 'cc', the problem stopped.
 Probably
 a little more overhead with the 'cc' function in maildrop, but it fixed
 the problem.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hi,

i have a problem in my server.
i received Duplicate mails in my mail box every mail has two copy
this is not problem in all account only one account i facing this
 problem
How i solve This problem

Regards
Devendra



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RE: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail

2006-05-31 Thread toaster

Hi,

I am Not Configure in my mail server and there no taps file in control folder

Regards
Devendra

 You don't happen to be tapping this email address and sending the logs of
 their email back to them?  I would think this would create an endless
 loop,
 but I'm just kinda throwing out a quick suggestion...

 Check your /var/qmail/control/taps file

 -Jason

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:37 AM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Duplicate Mail

 Hi all

 The Problem is still There only in one account in all mail accounts
 i recived duplicate copy of every mail with or without attachment

 regards
 Devendra

 I had the same issue but it might not be the same as yours, it happened
 after i upgraded to the newest qmail-toaster. to resolve i removed the
 .qmail file in the user's folder.

 /home/vpopmail/domain/user/Maildir/.qmail

 this is used for/by maildrop i think and maildrop is not supported from
 what i understand since it breaks quota or vice versa.


 We had this problem a while back, however, it only happened on
 attachments,
 and there were more that 1 duplicate.   Turned out to be a bug
 maildrop.  I believe
 the function was xfilter, since xfilter was 'C' code that did basically
 the same
 thing as a 'popen', I changed 'xfilter' to 'cc', the problem stopped.
 Probably
 a little more overhead with the 'cc' function in maildrop, but it fixed
 the problem.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hi,

i have a problem in my server.
i received Duplicate mails in my mail box every mail has two copy
this is not problem in all account only one account i facing this
 problem
How i solve This problem

Regards
Devendra



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