Re: [qmailtoaster] new server

[David]

All is good.. It just took yahoo and gmail to find me in the vast sea of 
the data informational worm hole :)



On 05/17/2012 09:42 PM, David Milholen wrote:

Just got my new server up running with atmailopen and it looks good.
 Just trying to figure out why it is taking gmail and yahoo a while to
send a message to the server. I have checked all of the obvious down
to the last spf record.
 Dave

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Re: [qmailtoaster] new server

[Maxwell Smart]

  
  
On 05/17/2012 07:42 PM, David Milholen wrote:

  
  Just got my new server up running with atmailopen and it looks
  good.
   Just trying to figure out why it is taking gmail and yahoo a
  while to 
  send a message to the server. I have checked all of the obvious
  down
  to the last spf record.
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Atmail is nice, but somewaht limited and has some quirks.  The Pro
version may be better.   RoundCube is very similar and seems to be
faster.  I found it more intuitive than Atmail.
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[qmailtoaster] new server

[David Milholen]

Just got my new server up running with atmailopen and it looks good.
 Just trying to figure out why it is taking gmail and yahoo a while to
send a message to the server. I have checked all of the obvious down
to the last spf record.
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[qmailtoaster] new server setup, local mail delivery problems

[Daniel Dekok]

Hi,

We've just upgraded our old qmail server to a new qmailtoaster set up,and
its mostly running ok, except for a few problems.

we had a large influx of mail delivered to local addresses today, and it
seems to have clogged up the system.  I've got a high enough concurrency
remote (tried 10/20, and up to 60) but according to the send logs, it
doesn't want to deliver or process more then one at the time.  Is this due
to the injection of lots of mails at one time?  It feels like there should
be a lot more qmail-local processes appearing, but i can't see if and where
that should happen.  If it stopped going from 1 to 0 and back to 1, and
concurrently delivered locally to the disc at closer to capacity, the server
would run a whole lot better. This doesn't seem to be aproblem with
remote, which is sitting happily on much higher numbers (currently at 20 due
to me trying to clear the local queue)

The whole queues at about 13000, and preprocessed is about 5000 at this
point in time, most of them are local delivery.

The other question is system load, the old qmail ran on older hardware, and
seemed not to be too overloaded, but this current server runs at about a
system load of 10 or more whenever there's about 100 emials in the queue. It
seems rather excessive, but i'm not sure if its expected or not.

Thanks,

Daniel

Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

[Michael H]

David Milholen wrote:

Now that sounds interesting, I definately want to check on this. I do not
have much experience with xeon but I have heard good things.


Hey David,

There's nothing particular to learn about Xeons, esp if you start with a 
distribution like CentOS -- it will pick the right kernel (and all 
available drivers, etc.) for you.


You might need to build a second mail server and have this guy "send" 
(only) to both of them at the same time.  Or maybe more than 2 ... :)


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Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

[David Milholen]

Now that sounds interesting, I definately want to check on this. I do not
have much experience with xeon but I have heard good things.
Thanks

> I use SuperMicro 1U in various configuration (2x opteron, 2x xeon, 1x
> P4) and price is from 800$-2000$ depends of hardware.
> It's a big diffirent (and price) if you are running IMAP with a lot
> of users, i use 3WARE 12ch SATA RAID and 12x250Gb (RAID 5 + HOT SPARE)
> with 120 email accaunts, after 1 year im on cca.50% remaining space :(
>
> On 2007.03.08, at 01:08, Ryan Gibbons wrote:
>
>> David Milholen wrote:
>>> I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19" server for sending about
>>> 50,000
>>> emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to
>>> meet
>>> the needs.
>>>  I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have
>>> room for
>>> a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual
>>> processor
>>> machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
>>>  I like to shop ebay too:)
>>> Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
>>> thanks
>>>
>>>
>> There are a lot of 1u and 2u servers out there, what is your
>> budget?  Since you said it is small, having this will help out.
>>
>> If you want one pre-built, You big manufactuers out there are Dell,
>> HP, Sun, etc.  Those are probably the three I would shop at.  If
>> you are looking for a used one, it seems the HP DL3xx, are a good
>> price.  I think I saw a 365, 2x 2.8 Xeon with a handful of scsi
>> drives for under 1K
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Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

[David Milholen]

Sounds really good,but I am steering towards some pentium based hardware
so that I do not have to go looking for specialized drivers for linux.

> David Milholen wrote:
>> I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19" server for sending about 50,000
>> emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to meet
>> the needs.
>>  I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have room
>> for
>> a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual processor
>> machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
>>  I like to shop ebay too:)
>> Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
>> thanks
>>
>>
> There are a lot of 1u and 2u servers out there, what is your budget?
> Since you said it is small, having this will help out.
>
> If you want one pre-built, You big manufactuers out there are Dell, HP,
> Sun, etc.  Those are probably the three I would shop at.  If you are
> looking for a used one, it seems the HP DL3xx, are a good price.  I
> think I saw a 365, 2x 2.8 Xeon with a handful of scsi drives for under 1K
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Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

[David Milholen]

That is about what I have now. It seems to do really well with about the
same customer base you have, but I have one business client on there that
sends about 35,000 emails with a maillist manager.
 I installing the new mail server with more horse power to take care of my
business clients for the outgoing service. Maybe set up replication for
the old server.

thanks

> David Milholen wrote:
>> I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19" server for sending about 50,000
>> emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to meet
>> the needs.
>>  I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have room
>> for
>> a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual processor
>> machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
>>  I like to shop ebay too:)
>> Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
>> thanks
>>
>>
> Are you going to be doing something like a mailing list? You'll be
> limited by the concurrency, but it will queue up all the messages and
> send them when the concurrency clears up.
> I have a P4, 2.4G with 512M of RAM (80G drive) that does a total of
> 12,000 emails a day with NO delays or problems. I'm also not sending
> 12,000 emails to it at one time, or asking it to deliver emails to
> 12,000 mailing list subscribers either. That's just the average daily
> load for the 300-400 clients that are on the machine, over a 24 hour
> period.
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Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

[Jake Vickers]

David Milholen wrote:

I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19" server for sending about 50,000
emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to meet
the needs.
 I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have room for
a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual processor
machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
 I like to shop ebay too:)
Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
thanks

  
Are you going to be doing something like a mailing list? You'll be 
limited by the concurrency, but it will queue up all the messages and 
send them when the concurrency clears up.
I have a P4, 2.4G with 512M of RAM (80G drive) that does a total of 
12,000 emails a day with NO delays or problems. I'm also not sending 
12,000 emails to it at one time, or asking it to deliver emails to 
12,000 mailing list subscribers either. That's just the average daily 
load for the 300-400 clients that are on the machine, over a 24 hour period.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

[Igor Vukotić]

I use SuperMicro 1U in various configuration (2x opteron, 2x xeon, 1x  
P4) and price is from 800$-2000$ depends of hardware.
It's a big diffirent (and price) if you are running IMAP with a lot  
of users, i use 3WARE 12ch SATA RAID and 12x250Gb (RAID 5 + HOT SPARE)

with 120 email accaunts, after 1 year im on cca.50% remaining space :(

On 2007.03.08, at 01:08, Ryan Gibbons wrote:


David Milholen wrote:
I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19" server for sending about  
50,000
emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to  
meet

the needs.
 I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have  
room for
a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual  
processor

machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
 I like to shop ebay too:)
Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
thanks


There are a lot of 1u and 2u servers out there, what is your  
budget?  Since you said it is small, having this will help out.


If you want one pre-built, You big manufactuers out there are Dell,  
HP, Sun, etc.  Those are probably the three I would shop at.  If  
you are looking for a used one, it seems the HP DL3xx, are a good  
price.  I think I saw a 365, 2x 2.8 Xeon with a handful of scsi  
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Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

[Ryan Gibbons]

David Milholen wrote:

I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19" server for sending about 50,000
emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to meet
the needs.
 I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have room for
a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual processor
machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
 I like to shop ebay too:)
Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
thanks

  
There are a lot of 1u and 2u servers out there, what is your budget?  
Since you said it is small, having this will help out.


If you want one pre-built, You big manufactuers out there are Dell, HP, 
Sun, etc.  Those are probably the three I would shop at.  If you are 
looking for a used one, it seems the HP DL3xx, are a good price.  I 
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[qmailtoaster] new server hardware

[David Milholen]

I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19" server for sending about 50,000
emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to meet
the needs.
 I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have room for
a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual processor
machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
 I like to shop ebay too:)
Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
thanks

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RE: [qmailtoaster] New server is online

[Alex]

Thanks Nick. Great Job!

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Hi All,

Thanks for your patience. The new server is up and running.

Regards,

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Re: [qmailtoaster] New server is online

[Gabriel Lai Yong Shern]

Great Job Nick... :)

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Hi All,

Thanks for your patience. The new server is up and running.

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[nick]

Hi All,

Thanks for your patience. The new server is up and running.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] New server coming online

[Erik Espinoza]

Glad to hear it Nick.

On 1/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Erik,
>
> Thanks, but Mark is hosting this for nothing. I am going to put an ad and
> link to his service on our web page. He also hosts a major distribution of
> Linux, and stuff like Rules Emporium, that really helps a bunch of us
> Linux Junkies. They have multiple T-10 lines into their facility and I'm
> happy to have Mark's help.
>
> I have tried, very hard, to keep this a free, volunteer project. So far,
> so good.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nick
>
>
> > Hey Nick,
> >
> > Seems to me that if you are co-locating a server then maybe you should
> > think about putting up some Google ad's or a donate button. I'd be one
> > of the first to donate.
> >
> > We all appreciate your hard work on the project, however if you are
> > spending your own money you should have a way to recooperate at least
> > some of that.
> >
> > Erik
> >
> > On 1/25/06, Nick Hemmesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> We will have a new server coming online shortly. I have colocated a new
> >> server with VR Hosting and will be making the change before Sunday.
> >>
> >> We should not be offline for very long. If this causes any of you
> >> problems, I sincerely appologize.
> >>
> >> This change will give us tons of bandwidth, something we have been
> >> lacking
> >> with the growth of this project.
> >>
> >> I have been working on the next version of qmailtoaster. I appreciate
> >> the
> >> input many of you have provided. I hope to have the new version into a
> >> stable status in a couple weeks.
> >>
> >> I do recommend that everyone upgrade to the clam-toaster package that
> >> Eric
> >> built for us. This is a security issue.
> >>
> >> Thanks again.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Nick
> >>
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[nick]

Hi Erik,

Thanks, but Mark is hosting this for nothing. I am going to put an ad and
link to his service on our web page. He also hosts a major distribution of
Linux, and stuff like Rules Emporium, that really helps a bunch of us
Linux Junkies. They have multiple T-10 lines into their facility and I'm
happy to have Mark's help.

I have tried, very hard, to keep this a free, volunteer project. So far,
so good.

Regards,

Nick


> Hey Nick,
>
> Seems to me that if you are co-locating a server then maybe you should
> think about putting up some Google ad's or a donate button. I'd be one
> of the first to donate.
>
> We all appreciate your hard work on the project, however if you are
> spending your own money you should have a way to recooperate at least
> some of that.
>
> Erik
>
> On 1/25/06, Nick Hemmesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> We will have a new server coming online shortly. I have colocated a new
>> server with VR Hosting and will be making the change before Sunday.
>>
>> We should not be offline for very long. If this causes any of you
>> problems, I sincerely appologize.
>>
>> This change will give us tons of bandwidth, something we have been
>> lacking
>> with the growth of this project.
>>
>> I have been working on the next version of qmailtoaster. I appreciate
>> the
>> input many of you have provided. I hope to have the new version into a
>> stable status in a couple weeks.
>>
>> I do recommend that everyone upgrade to the clam-toaster package that
>> Eric
>> built for us. This is a security issue.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Nick
>>
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[Alex]

I second the donation idea. Google ads are annoying though.
This project saved me so much time and it works great.

> Hey Nick,
> 
> Seems to me that if you are co-locating a server then maybe you should
> think about putting up some Google ad's or a donate button. I'd be one
> of the first to donate.
> 
> We all appreciate your hard work on the project, however if you are
> spending your own money you should have a way to recooperate at least
> some of that.
> 
> Erik
> 
> On 1/25/06, Nick Hemmesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > We will have a new server coming online shortly. I have colocated a 
new
> > server with VR Hosting and will be making the change before Sunday.
> >
> > We should not be offline for very long. If this causes any of you
> > problems, I sincerely appologize.
> >
> > This change will give us tons of bandwidth, something we have been 
lacking
> > with the growth of this project.
> >
> > I have been working on the next version of qmailtoaster. I 
appreciate the
> > input many of you have provided. I hope to have the new version 
into a
> > stable status in a couple weeks.
> >
> > I do recommend that everyone upgrade to the clam-toaster package 
that Eric
> > built for us. This is a security issue.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
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Hey Nick,

Seems to me that if you are co-locating a server then maybe you should
think about putting up some Google ad's or a donate button. I'd be one
of the first to donate.

We all appreciate your hard work on the project, however if you are
spending your own money you should have a way to recooperate at least
some of that.

Erik

On 1/25/06, Nick Hemmesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We will have a new server coming online shortly. I have colocated a new
> server with VR Hosting and will be making the change before Sunday.
>
> We should not be offline for very long. If this causes any of you
> problems, I sincerely appologize.
>
> This change will give us tons of bandwidth, something we have been lacking
> with the growth of this project.
>
> I have been working on the next version of qmailtoaster. I appreciate the
> input many of you have provided. I hope to have the new version into a
> stable status in a couple weeks.
>
> I do recommend that everyone upgrade to the clam-toaster package that Eric
> built for us. This is a security issue.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nick
>
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[Gabriel Lai Yong Shern]

Nick,

Thanks for everything. Personally appreciate it very much.

Cheers,
Gabriel

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Hi All,

We will have a new server coming online shortly. I have colocated a new
server with VR Hosting and will be making the change before Sunday.

We should not be offline for very long. If this causes any of you
problems, I sincerely appologize.

This change will give us tons of bandwidth, something we have been lacking
with the growth of this project.

I have been working on the next version of qmailtoaster. I appreciate the
input many of you have provided. I hope to have the new version into a
stable status in a couple weeks.

I do recommend that everyone upgrade to the clam-toaster package that Eric
built for us. This is a security issue.

Thanks again.

Regards,

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[Nick Hemmesch]

Hi All,

We will have a new server coming online shortly. I have colocated a new
server with VR Hosting and will be making the change before Sunday.

We should not be offline for very long. If this causes any of you
problems, I sincerely appologize.

This change will give us tons of bandwidth, something we have been lacking
with the growth of this project.

I have been working on the next version of qmailtoaster. I appreciate the
input many of you have provided. I hope to have the new version into a
stable status in a couple weeks.

I do recommend that everyone upgrade to the clam-toaster package that Eric
built for us. This is a security issue.

Thanks again.

Regards,

Nick


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