Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

2007-03-09 Thread Michael H

David Milholen wrote:

Now that sounds interesting, I definately want to check on this. I do not
have much experience with xeon but I have heard good things.


Hey David,

There's nothing particular to learn about Xeons, esp if you start with a 
distribution like CentOS -- it will pick the right kernel (and all 
available drivers, etc.) for you.


You might need to build a second mail server and have this guy send 
(only) to both of them at the same time.  Or maybe more than 2 ... :)


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Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

2007-03-08 Thread Igor Vukotić
I use SuperMicro 1U in various configuration (2x opteron, 2x xeon, 1x  
P4) and price is from 800$-2000$ depends of hardware.
It's a big diffirent (and price) if you are running IMAP with a lot  
of users, i use 3WARE 12ch SATA RAID and 12x250Gb (RAID 5 + HOT SPARE)

with 120 email accaunts, after 1 year im on cca.50% remaining space :(

On 2007.03.08, at 01:08, Ryan Gibbons wrote:


David Milholen wrote:
I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19 server for sending about  
50,000
emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to  
meet

the needs.
 I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have  
room for
a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual  
processor

machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
 I like to shop ebay too:)
Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
thanks


There are a lot of 1u and 2u servers out there, what is your  
budget?  Since you said it is small, having this will help out.


If you want one pre-built, You big manufactuers out there are Dell,  
HP, Sun, etc.  Those are probably the three I would shop at.  If  
you are looking for a used one, it seems the HP DL3xx, are a good  
price.  I think I saw a 365, 2x 2.8 Xeon with a handful of scsi  
drives for under 1K


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Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

2007-03-08 Thread Jake Vickers

David Milholen wrote:

I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19 server for sending about 50,000
emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to meet
the needs.
 I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have room for
a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual processor
machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
 I like to shop ebay too:)
Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
thanks

  
Are you going to be doing something like a mailing list? You'll be 
limited by the concurrency, but it will queue up all the messages and 
send them when the concurrency clears up.
I have a P4, 2.4G with 512M of RAM (80G drive) that does a total of 
12,000 emails a day with NO delays or problems. I'm also not sending 
12,000 emails to it at one time, or asking it to deliver emails to 
12,000 mailing list subscribers either. That's just the average daily 
load for the 300-400 clients that are on the machine, over a 24 hour period.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

2007-03-08 Thread David Milholen
That is about what I have now. It seems to do really well with about the
same customer base you have, but I have one business client on there that
sends about 35,000 emails with a maillist manager.
 I installing the new mail server with more horse power to take care of my
business clients for the outgoing service. Maybe set up replication for
the old server.

thanks

 David Milholen wrote:
 I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19 server for sending about 50,000
 emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to meet
 the needs.
  I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have room
 for
 a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual processor
 machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
  I like to shop ebay too:)
 Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
 thanks


 Are you going to be doing something like a mailing list? You'll be
 limited by the concurrency, but it will queue up all the messages and
 send them when the concurrency clears up.
 I have a P4, 2.4G with 512M of RAM (80G drive) that does a total of
 12,000 emails a day with NO delays or problems. I'm also not sending
 12,000 emails to it at one time, or asking it to deliver emails to
 12,000 mailing list subscribers either. That's just the average daily
 load for the 300-400 clients that are on the machine, over a 24 hour
 period.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

2007-03-08 Thread David Milholen
Sounds really good,but I am steering towards some pentium based hardware
so that I do not have to go looking for specialized drivers for linux.

 David Milholen wrote:
 I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19 server for sending about 50,000
 emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to meet
 the needs.
  I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have room
 for
 a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual processor
 machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
  I like to shop ebay too:)
 Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
 thanks


 There are a lot of 1u and 2u servers out there, what is your budget?
 Since you said it is small, having this will help out.

 If you want one pre-built, You big manufactuers out there are Dell, HP,
 Sun, etc.  Those are probably the three I would shop at.  If you are
 looking for a used one, it seems the HP DL3xx, are a good price.  I
 think I saw a 365, 2x 2.8 Xeon with a handful of scsi drives for under 1K

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Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

2007-03-08 Thread David Milholen
Now that sounds interesting, I definately want to check on this. I do not
have much experience with xeon but I have heard good things.
Thanks

 I use SuperMicro 1U in various configuration (2x opteron, 2x xeon, 1x
 P4) and price is from 800$-2000$ depends of hardware.
 It's a big diffirent (and price) if you are running IMAP with a lot
 of users, i use 3WARE 12ch SATA RAID and 12x250Gb (RAID 5 + HOT SPARE)
 with 120 email accaunts, after 1 year im on cca.50% remaining space :(

 On 2007.03.08, at 01:08, Ryan Gibbons wrote:

 David Milholen wrote:
 I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19 server for sending about
 50,000
 emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to
 meet
 the needs.
  I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have
 room for
 a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual
 processor
 machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
  I like to shop ebay too:)
 Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
 thanks


 There are a lot of 1u and 2u servers out there, what is your
 budget?  Since you said it is small, having this will help out.

 If you want one pre-built, You big manufactuers out there are Dell,
 HP, Sun, etc.  Those are probably the three I would shop at.  If
 you are looking for a used one, it seems the HP DL3xx, are a good
 price.  I think I saw a 365, 2x 2.8 Xeon with a handful of scsi
 drives for under 1K

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[qmailtoaster] new server hardware

2007-03-07 Thread David Milholen
I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19 server for sending about 50,000
emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to meet
the needs.
 I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have room for
a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual processor
machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
 I like to shop ebay too:)
Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
thanks

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Re: [qmailtoaster] new server hardware

2007-03-07 Thread Ryan Gibbons

David Milholen wrote:

I need some ideas on a new 2u or 1u 19 server for sending about 50,000
emails in a day. I can build the server if there isnt a package to meet
the needs.
 I just need a server that will handle that kind of load and have room for
a secondary drive for mirroring. I would like to have a dual processor
machine with some p4 horsepower behind it,but money is a factor.
 I like to shop ebay too:)
Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.
thanks

  
There are a lot of 1u and 2u servers out there, what is your budget?  
Since you said it is small, having this will help out.


If you want one pre-built, You big manufactuers out there are Dell, HP, 
Sun, etc.  Those are probably the three I would shop at.  If you are 
looking for a used one, it seems the HP DL3xx, are a good price.  I 
think I saw a 365, 2x 2.8 Xeon with a handful of scsi drives for under 1K


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