[qmailtoaster] Re: 2 NIC

2012-05-21 Thread Eric Shubert 

On 05/21/2012 11:59 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:



On 05/21/2012 11:46 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 05/21/2012 11:24 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:

It resolves to the correct address, but will not answer.  I just added
the LAN address, ie.

Listen 192.168.0.168:80

  to the httpd.conf file and now it answers and I'm able to access the
pages, but it's not answering them via the WAN.
--


That's nothing to do with name resolution. It's a problem with apache
config. Have you tried
Listen *:80
?


It was Listen *:80 and didn't work, but it still doesn't answer to the
WAN which it should.  I know the WAN address works since I can use a
proxy server or access from my home without issue.  It's not a big deal
since I can do what I need to, but the setup is not working as expected
and I want to know why.


Likely a routing problem then. Did you have a look at the routing table?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: 2 NIC

2012-05-21 Thread Cecil Yother, Jr. 

  
  


On 05/21/2012 11:46 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
On
  05/21/2012 11:24 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:
  
  It resolves to the correct address, but
will not answer.  I just added

the LAN address, ie.


Listen 192.168.0.168:80


  to the httpd.conf file and now it answers and I'm able to
access the

pages, but it's not answering them via the WAN.

--

  
  
  That's nothing to do with name resolution. It's a problem with
  apache config. Have you tried
  
  Listen *:80
  
  ?
  
  

It was Listen *:80 and didn't work, but it still doesn't answer to
the WAN which it should.  I know the WAN address works since I can
use a proxy server or access from my home without issue.  It's not a
big deal since I can do what I need to, but the setup is not working
as expected and I want to know why.
I
  hesitate to ask this, but what's the point of using 2 nics on a
  web server this way?
  
  

Because server management, and file transfers are faster using the
LAN.

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[qmailtoaster] Re: 2 NIC

2012-05-21 Thread Eric Shubert 

On 05/21/2012 11:24 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:

It resolves to the correct address, but will not answer.  I just added
the LAN address, ie.

Listen 192.168.0.168:80

  to the httpd.conf file and now it answers and I'm able to access the
pages, but it's not answering them via the WAN.
--


That's nothing to do with name resolution. It's a problem with apache 
config. Have you tried

Listen *:80
?

I hesitate to ask this, but what's the point of using 2 nics on a web 
server this way?


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: 2 NIC

2012-05-21 Thread Cecil Yother, Jr. 

  
  


On 05/21/2012 11:18 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
On
  05/21/2012 11:14 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:
  
  


On 05/21/2012 11:12 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 05/21/2012 10:59 AM, Cecil Yother,
  Jr. wrote:
  
  I am not sure I quite understand why
it doesn't work and a resolver is

needed.  If I do a dig it answers to the proper IP.  It
stands to reason

that I should be able to access that server through a web
browser, and

it cannot.  What is a resolver going to tell my system that
it already

doesn't know ?


On 05/21/2012 10:52 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

I don't think so. I don't think you
  should have the same name twice in
  
  your hosts file. I'm not sure off hand which address linux
  would
  
  return in this case. (How would it know when to return
  which one?)
  
  
  What makes this work is that one resolver (your local
  resolver) is
  
  used when connected to the LAN which returns the LAN
  address
  
  corresponding to the name, and a different resolver
  (internet
  
  authoritative dns) is used when connected to the WAN.
  
  
  A firewall such as IPCop can be used as a local resolver
  to provide
  
  the local addresses (recommended method). This can also be
  implemented
  
  in a single bind host using the split horizon feature, but
  that's a
  
  bit tricky.
  
  


--

  
  
  Did doesn't look at /etc/hosts.
  
  
  If your dig answers with the proper IP, you should be ok.
  
  

Yes, it does.  So that's why I'm a bit confused.

--

  
  
  What exactly is confusing?
  
  

It resolves to the correct address, but will not answer.  I just
added the LAN address, ie.

Listen 192.168.0.168:80

 to the httpd.conf file and now it answers and I'm able to access
the pages, but it's not answering them via the WAN.  
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[qmailtoaster] Re: 2 NIC

2012-05-21 Thread Eric Shubert 

On 05/21/2012 11:14 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:



On 05/21/2012 11:12 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 05/21/2012 10:59 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:

I am not sure I quite understand why it doesn't work and a resolver is
needed.  If I do a dig it answers to the proper IP.  It stands to reason
that I should be able to access that server through a web browser, and
it cannot.  What is a resolver going to tell my system that it already
doesn't know ?

On 05/21/2012 10:52 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

I don't think so. I don't think you should have the same name twice in
your hosts file. I'm not sure off hand which address linux would
return in this case. (How would it know when to return which one?)

What makes this work is that one resolver (your local resolver) is
used when connected to the LAN which returns the LAN address
corresponding to the name, and a different resolver (internet
authoritative dns) is used when connected to the WAN.

A firewall such as IPCop can be used as a local resolver to provide
the local addresses (recommended method). This can also be implemented
in a single bind host using the split horizon feature, but that's a
bit tricky.



--


Did doesn't look at /etc/hosts.

If your dig answers with the proper IP, you should be ok.


Yes, it does.  So that's why I'm a bit confused.
--


What exactly is confusing?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: 2 NIC

2012-05-21 Thread Cecil Yother, Jr. 

  
  


On 05/21/2012 11:12 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
On
  05/21/2012 10:59 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:
  
  I am not sure I quite understand why it
doesn't work and a resolver is

needed.  If I do a dig it answers to the proper IP.  It stands
to reason

that I should be able to access that server through a web
browser, and

it cannot.  What is a resolver going to tell my system that it
already

doesn't know ?


On 05/21/2012 10:52 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

I don't think so. I don't think you
  should have the same name twice in
  
  your hosts file. I'm not sure off hand which address linux
  would
  
  return in this case. (How would it know when to return which
  one?)
  
  
  What makes this work is that one resolver (your local
  resolver) is
  
  used when connected to the LAN which returns the LAN address
  
  corresponding to the name, and a different resolver (internet
  
  authoritative dns) is used when connected to the WAN.
  
  
  A firewall such as IPCop can be used as a local resolver to
  provide
  
  the local addresses (recommended method). This can also be
  implemented
  
  in a single bind host using the split horizon feature, but
  that's a
  
  bit tricky.
  
  


--

  
  
  Did doesn't look at /etc/hosts.
  
  
  If your dig answers with the proper IP, you should be ok.
  
  

Yes, it does.  So that's why I'm a bit confused.  
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[qmailtoaster] Re: 2 NIC

2012-05-21 Thread Eric Shubert 

On 05/21/2012 10:59 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:

I am not sure I quite understand why it doesn't work and a resolver is
needed.  If I do a dig it answers to the proper IP.  It stands to reason
that I should be able to access that server through a web browser, and
it cannot.  What is a resolver going to tell my system that it already
doesn't know ?

On 05/21/2012 10:52 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

I don't think so. I don't think you should have the same name twice in
your hosts file. I'm not sure off hand which address linux would
return in this case. (How would it know when to return which one?)

What makes this work is that one resolver (your local resolver) is
used when connected to the LAN which returns the LAN address
corresponding to the name, and a different resolver (internet
authoritative dns) is used when connected to the WAN.

A firewall such as IPCop can be used as a local resolver to provide
the local addresses (recommended method). This can also be implemented
in a single bind host using the split horizon feature, but that's a
bit tricky.



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If your dig answers with the proper IP, you should be ok.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: 2 NIC

2012-05-21 Thread Cecil Yother, Jr. 

  
  
I am not sure I quite understand why it doesn't work and a resolver
is needed.  If I do a dig it answers to the proper IP.  It stands to
reason that I should be able to access that server through a web
browser, and it cannot.  What is a resolver going to tell my system
that it already doesn't know ?

On 05/21/2012 10:52 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
I
  don't think so. I don't think you should have the same name twice
  in your hosts file. I'm not sure off hand which address linux
  would return in this case. (How would it know when to return which
  one?)
  
  
  What makes this work is that one resolver (your local resolver) is
  used when connected to the LAN which returns the LAN address
  corresponding to the name, and a different resolver (internet
  authoritative dns) is used when connected to the WAN.
  
  
  A firewall such as IPCop can be used as a local resolver to
  provide the local addresses (recommended method). This can also be
  implemented in a single bind host using the split horizon feature,
  but that's a bit tricky.
  
  


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[qmailtoaster] Re: 2 NIC

2012-05-21 Thread Eric Shubert 
I don't think so. I don't think you should have the same name twice in 
your hosts file. I'm not sure off hand which address linux would return 
in this case. (How would it know when to return which one?)


What makes this work is that one resolver (your local resolver) is used 
when connected to the LAN which returns the LAN address corresponding to 
the name, and a different resolver (internet authoritative dns) is used 
when connected to the WAN.


A firewall such as IPCop can be used as a local resolver to provide the 
local addresses (recommended method). This can also be implemented in a 
single bind host using the split horizon feature, but that's a bit tricky.


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On 05/21/2012 10:07 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:

Shouldn't this then work using the following in the hosts file?

192.168.0.xx  mail.test.com
173.164.181.xx   mail.test.com


On 05/17/2012 11:19 PM, Dhulla, Deepen Vinod wrote:


hi

Use DNS not ip address.

Example : You set your local DNS server with Caching...easy one is
BIND DNS.

like you have exampl : webmail.test.com as your DNS for using from
outside officewhich connects to Internet ip.

when in office use your local DNS, which points webmail.test.com to
local ip.

Thus same URL  works internal & External.

I have my Mail-server & DNS configured same one. and it works.




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On Friday, 18-05-2012 on 10:52 Maxwell Smart wrote:

Deepen,

I got it all working.  It turns out there were several issues at
hand.  The last that I have to sort is the connection between my
desktop and the server.  The firewall must be misconfigured.  It's
an odd one for sure.  I can access the server via the LAN address,
but not the WAN address.  I can access all other outside web pages
, but not my own.  The firewall shouldn't require a specific rule,
but something is not right with it.

Thank you for you input.

CJ


Dear Maxwell

you can use ETHO & ETH1 different ..provide you have two
different network mask.

Like I have  Local Network & Internet Network.

Whats your requirement actually.


- Deepen Dhulla
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On Tuesday, 08-05-2012 on 8:36 Maxwell Smart wrote:

It appears as though I have it all sorted.

Does anyone have experience using 2 NIC's one for outside and
one for inside?  I can't seem to get them working in
concert.  Here's what I have

ETH0 outside
ETH1 inside

If I set it up this way it times out after a while and
connection from the outside is not possible.  Turn off ETH1
and connectivity is restored.  Anyone else have experience
with this and how to make it work.

Thanks for all the help

On 05/07/2012 12:09 PM, Alvaro Alejandro Sepulveda Orellana
wrote:

User vpopmail
Group vchkpw


El 07-05-12 15:00, "Cecil Yother, Jr."  escribió:

  OK, I moved the entire directory and it worked.  Now I
need to modify the file permissions of my vpopmail
directory.  I have moved the entire contents of the
vpopmail folder and changed ownership to the correct
ownership and now everything appears to be working.  I
may need to run the queue repair once more now that the
ownership is corrected.  It was root:root before when I
ran it.


 On 05/07/2012 10:49 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:

 I have had to move a server from a colo.  The
server motherboard was damaged.  I need to retrieve
the mysql databases and only have access to the hd
from another system.  Can this be done?  If so how?




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: 2 NIC

2012-05-18 Thread Bharath Chari 

On Friday 18 May 2012 09:53 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
I've found the same thing. It appears that some network devices don't 
let you do a u-turn, coming from the inside and returning to the 
inside. I'm not sure which ones or why that is, but I'd like to know 
more about it. BL, Deepen's solution works for me as well.


This randomness in how different gateway devices behave was a blessing 
in disguise for me - I ended up learning a bit more about DNS :).


Bharath

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[qmailtoaster] Re: 2 NIC

2012-05-18 Thread Eric Shubert 
I've found the same thing. It appears that some network devices don't 
let you do a u-turn, coming from the inside and returning to the inside. 
I'm not sure which ones or why that is, but I'd like to know more about 
it. BL, Deepen's solution works for me as well.


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On 05/17/2012 11:19 PM, Dhulla, Deepen Vinod wrote:


hi

Use DNS not ip address.

Example : You set your local DNS server with Caching...easy one is BIND DNS.

like you have exampl : webmail.test.com as your DNS for using from
outside officewhich connects to Internet ip.

when in office use your local DNS, which points webmail.test.com to
local ip.

Thus same URL works internal & External.

I have my Mail-server & DNS configured same one. and it works.




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“Nothing is particularly hard if you divide it into small jobs.”

http://in.linkedin.com/in/deependhulla
http://www.facebook.com/deependhulla
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Skype: callto://deependhulla



On Friday, 18-05-2012 on 10:52 Maxwell Smart wrote:

Deepen,

I got it all working. It turns out there were several issues at
hand. The last that I have to sort is the connection between my
desktop and the server. The firewall must be misconfigured. It's an
odd one for sure. I can access the server via the LAN address, but
not the WAN address. I can access all other outside web pages , but
not my own. The firewall shouldn't require a specific rule, but
something is not right with it.

Thank you for you input.

CJ


Dear Maxwell

you can use ETHO & ETH1 different ..provide you have two different
network mask.

Like I have Local Network & Internet Network.

Whats your requirement actually.


- Deepen Dhulla
“Nothing is particularly hard if you divide it into small jobs.”

http://in.linkedin.com/in/deependhulla
http://www.facebook.com/deependhulla
http://www.twitter.com/deependhulla
Skype: callto://deependhulla



On Tuesday, 08-05-2012 on 8:36 Maxwell Smart wrote:

It appears as though I have it all sorted.

Does anyone have experience using 2 NIC's one for outside and
one for inside? I can't seem to get them working in concert.
Here's what I have

ETH0 outside
ETH1 inside

If I set it up this way it times out after a while and
connection from the outside is not possible. Turn off ETH1 and
connectivity is restored. Anyone else have experience with
this and how to make it work.

Thanks for all the help

On 05/07/2012 12:09 PM, Alvaro Alejandro Sepulveda Orellana
wrote:

User vpopmail
Group vchkpw


El 07-05-12 15:00, "Cecil Yother, Jr."  escribió:

OK, I moved the entire directory and it worked. Now I
need to modify the file permissions of my vpopmail
directory. I have moved the entire contents of the
vpopmail folder and changed ownership to the correct
ownership and now everything appears to be working. I may
need to run the queue repair once more now that the
ownership is corrected. It was root:root before when I
ran it.


On 05/07/2012 10:49 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:

I have had to move a server from a colo. The server
motherboard was damaged. I need to retrieve the mysql
databases and only have access to the hd from another
system. Can this be done? If so how?




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Re: [qmailtoaster] re: 2 NIC

2012-05-07 Thread Dhulla, Deepen Vinod 
Dear Maxwellyou can use ETHO & ETH1 different ..provide you have two different network mask.Like I have  Local Network & Internet Network.Whats your requirement actually.


- Deepen Dhulla
“Nothing is particularly hard if you divide it into small jobs.” 

http://in.linkedin.com/in/deependhulla
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Skype: callto://deependhullaOn Tuesday, 08-05-2012 on 8:36 Maxwell Smart wrote:
  
  
It appears as though I have it all sorted.  

Does anyone have experience using 2 NIC's one for outside and one
for inside?  I can't seem to get them working in concert.  Here's
what I have

ETH0 outside
ETH1 inside

If I set it up this way it times out after a while and connection
from the outside is not possible.  Turn off ETH1 and connectivity is
restored.  Anyone else have experience with this and how to make it
work.

Thanks for all the help

On 05/07/2012 12:09 PM, Alvaro Alejandro Sepulveda Orellana wrote:

  
  User vpopmail
  Group vchkpw
  
  
  El 07-05-12 15:00, "Cecil Yother, Jr." 
  escribió:
  

     OK, I moved the entire directory
and it worked.  Now I need to modify the file permissions of
my vpopmail directory.  I have moved the entire contents of
the vpopmail folder and changed ownership to the correct
ownership and now everything appears to be working.  I may
need to run the queue repair once more now that the
ownership is corrected.  It was root:root before when I ran
it.
 
 
 On 05/07/2012 10:49 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote: 
  
  I have had to move a server from
  a colo.  The server motherboard was damaged.  I need to
  retrieve the mysql databases and only have access to the
  hd from another system.  Can this be done?  If so how?
   
   
   

  
  
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Atentamente,
   
Alvaro A. Sepúlveda Orellana.
Departamento de Redes y Enlaces.
Fono: 75 38 200 - 221 21 16.
CEL:    +569 95542326
  
  

  
  



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