Re: [qmailtoaster] let another handle my email

2009-02-16 Thread Philip

Hello
assign is an editable file (but be careful what you do with it)
then the command qmail-newu builds a cdb binary file called cdb


Eric Shubert wrote:
I'm not really clear about what you're trying to accomplish. There are 
2 other places though (other than the sql database) where your domains 
are defined. One is the /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains, and the 
other is /var/qmail/users/assign. The later has a cdb file associated 
with it that's a little tricky to get generated IIRC. You might need 
to add/delete a dummy domain to get the assign.cdb file rebuilt.



Shai wrote:

Well... I know where it goes... it still goes locally to my account ...

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Shai sha...@gmail.com wrote:

I did this.. and now I don't get any email... and I have no idea where
its going to either :(

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

In that case, I think you can simply remove the domain from the
/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file. See
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Rcpthosts

I'd do that with qmail stopped to be on the safe side (I see a 
corresponding

.lock file).

Shai wrote:

Hi Eric (Long time no talk!),

But I don't want to delete the domain... I still have emails I 
want to

have access to ...

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

Shai wrote:

Hi,

I decided that I don't want to maintain my own mail server and I 
want

to let another service handle this for me.
Notice, I have several domains, and this decision has been made for
just one of them, not all.
I've setup everything but local emails (ie. emails that are 
being sent
from the local cron or other tasks sending to the local server 
on the

old mail server.

What exactly do I need to do, so that all the local email being 
sent
to this domain, don't go to the old server but get forwarded to 
my ISP

and then to my new host for my mail server?

Thanks in advance!
Shai

Delete the domain from your toaster
# /home/vpopmail/bin/vdeldomain yourdomain.com

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Re: [qmailtoaster] let another handle my email

2009-02-16 Thread Eric Shubert

Nice tip, Philip (could've used that a couple years ago!).
Does qmail-newu do anything other than building the assign.cdb file?

Philip wrote:

Hello
assign is an editable file (but be careful what you do with it)
then the command qmail-newu builds a cdb binary file called cdb


Eric Shubert wrote:
I'm not really clear about what you're trying to accomplish. There are 
2 other places though (other than the sql database) where your domains 
are defined. One is the /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains, and the 
other is /var/qmail/users/assign. The later has a cdb file associated 
with it that's a little tricky to get generated IIRC. You might need 
to add/delete a dummy domain to get the assign.cdb file rebuilt.



Shai wrote:

Well... I know where it goes... it still goes locally to my account ...

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Shai sha...@gmail.com wrote:

I did this.. and now I don't get any email... and I have no idea where
its going to either :(

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

In that case, I think you can simply remove the domain from the
/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file. See
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Rcpthosts

I'd do that with qmail stopped to be on the safe side (I see a 
corresponding

.lock file).

Shai wrote:

Hi Eric (Long time no talk!),

But I don't want to delete the domain... I still have emails I 
want to

have access to ...

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

Shai wrote:

Hi,

I decided that I don't want to maintain my own mail server and I 
want

to let another service handle this for me.
Notice, I have several domains, and this decision has been made for
just one of them, not all.
I've setup everything but local emails (ie. emails that are 
being sent
from the local cron or other tasks sending to the local server 
on the

old mail server.

What exactly do I need to do, so that all the local email being 
sent
to this domain, don't go to the old server but get forwarded to 
my ISP

and then to my new host for my mail server?

Thanks in advance!
Shai

Delete the domain from your toaster
# /home/vpopmail/bin/vdeldomain yourdomain.com

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Re: [qmailtoaster] let another handle my email

2009-02-16 Thread Shai
Hi Philip,

Thanks for the tip... but I didn't understand it. Can you elaborate?

Thanks,
Shai

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Philip phi...@ows.ch wrote:
 Hello
 assign is an editable file (but be careful what you do with it)
 then the command qmail-newu builds a cdb binary file called cdb


 Eric Shubert wrote:

 I'm not really clear about what you're trying to accomplish. There are 2
 other places though (other than the sql database) where your domains are
 defined. One is the /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains, and the other is
 /var/qmail/users/assign. The later has a cdb file associated with it that's
 a little tricky to get generated IIRC. You might need to add/delete a dummy
 domain to get the assign.cdb file rebuilt.


 Shai wrote:

 Well... I know where it goes... it still goes locally to my account ...

 Shai

 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Shai sha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I did this.. and now I don't get any email... and I have no idea where
 its going to either :(

 Shai

 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

 In that case, I think you can simply remove the domain from the
 /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file. See
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Rcpthosts

 I'd do that with qmail stopped to be on the safe side (I see a
 corresponding
 .lock file).

 Shai wrote:

 Hi Eric (Long time no talk!),

 But I don't want to delete the domain... I still have emails I want to
 have access to ...

 Shai

 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

 Shai wrote:

 Hi,

 I decided that I don't want to maintain my own mail server and I
 want
 to let another service handle this for me.
 Notice, I have several domains, and this decision has been made for
 just one of them, not all.
 I've setup everything but local emails (ie. emails that are being
 sent
 from the local cron or other tasks sending to the local server on
 the
 old mail server.

 What exactly do I need to do, so that all the local email being sent
 to this domain, don't go to the old server but get forwarded to my
 ISP
 and then to my new host for my mail server?

 Thanks in advance!
 Shai

 Delete the domain from your toaster
 # /home/vpopmail/bin/vdeldomain yourdomain.com

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Re: [qmailtoaster] let another handle my email

2009-02-16 Thread Philip

Yes I used that when migrating machines
and another very nice little tool is qmail-newmrh which is building the 
morercpthosts.cdb


about qmail-newu :

NAME
  qmail-newu - prepare address assignments for qmail-lspawn

SYNOPSIS
  qmail-newu

DESCRIPTION
  qmail-newu  reads the assignments in /var/qmail/users/assign and writes 
them into /var/qmail/users/cdb in a binary format suited for quick access by 
qmail-
  lspawn.

  If there is a problem with users/assign, qmail-newu complains and leaves 
users/cdb alone.

  qmail-newu ensures that users/cdb is updated atomically, so qmail-lspawn 
never has to wait for qmail-newu to finish.  However, qmail-newu makes no  
attempt
  to protect against two simultaneous updates of users/cdb.

  The binary users/cdb format is portable across machines.






Eric Shubert wrote:

Nice tip, Philip (could've used that a couple years ago!).
Does qmail-newu do anything other than building the assign.cdb file?

Philip wrote:

Hello
assign is an editable file (but be careful what you do with it)
then the command qmail-newu builds a cdb binary file called cdb


Eric Shubert wrote:
I'm not really clear about what you're trying to accomplish. There 
are 2 other places though (other than the sql database) where your 
domains are defined. One is the /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains, 
and the other is /var/qmail/users/assign. The later has a cdb file 
associated with it that's a little tricky to get generated IIRC. You 
might need to add/delete a dummy domain to get the assign.cdb file 
rebuilt.



Shai wrote:
Well... I know where it goes... it still goes locally to my account 
...


Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Shai sha...@gmail.com wrote:
I did this.. and now I don't get any email... and I have no idea 
where

its going to either :(

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

In that case, I think you can simply remove the domain from the
/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file. See
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Rcpthosts

I'd do that with qmail stopped to be on the safe side (I see a 
corresponding

.lock file).

Shai wrote:

Hi Eric (Long time no talk!),

But I don't want to delete the domain... I still have emails I 
want to

have access to ...

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net 
wrote:

Shai wrote:

Hi,

I decided that I don't want to maintain my own mail server and 
I want

to let another service handle this for me.
Notice, I have several domains, and this decision has been 
made for

just one of them, not all.
I've setup everything but local emails (ie. emails that are 
being sent
from the local cron or other tasks sending to the local server 
on the

old mail server.

What exactly do I need to do, so that all the local email 
being sent
to this domain, don't go to the old server but get forwarded 
to my ISP

and then to my new host for my mail server?

Thanks in advance!
Shai

Delete the domain from your toaster
# /home/vpopmail/bin/vdeldomain yourdomain.com

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Re: [qmailtoaster] let another handle my email

2009-02-16 Thread Philip

Hello
you ll notice that in the (if default setup) /var/qmail/users directory
a file assign (text file)
a binary file cdb (built from assign)
and a lock file assign.lock

When you add a new domain or a new domain alias
that domain is added to the assign file and the cdb file is built
The assign is a very important file, in the old days when the uid, gid 
of vpopmail wasnt fixed and specified to 89:89
you  had to edit that assign file when you were migrating otherwise you 
d face big issues with permissions :)


basically if you look at the file you can see :
+domain_name-:domain_name:uid:gid:path_of_the_mail_boxes:-::

+dom1.com-:dom1.com:89:89:/home/vpopmail/domains/dom1.com:-::  - normal 
domain
+dom2.com-:dom1.com:89:89:/home/vpopmail/domains/dom1.com:-::  - domain 
alias of dom1



I dont use that much that qmail-newu command but qmail-newmrh I use that 
almost every day to add domains to our front end smtp servers (scanners)


If you are interested look at the vpopmail source package and 
vadddomain.c or vaddaliasdomain.c

you ll understand what files are modified when you add or remove a domain

and if you just want your smtp to accept mail for a specific domain but 
to deliver mail to another machine, that domain must be added to only 
one file

but that's another subject


Shai wrote:

Hi Philip,

Thanks for the tip... but I didn't understand it. Can you elaborate?

Thanks,
Shai

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Philip phi...@ows.ch wrote:
  

Hello
assign is an editable file (but be careful what you do with it)
then the command qmail-newu builds a cdb binary file called cdb


Eric Shubert wrote:


I'm not really clear about what you're trying to accomplish. There are 2
other places though (other than the sql database) where your domains are
defined. One is the /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains, and the other is
/var/qmail/users/assign. The later has a cdb file associated with it that's
a little tricky to get generated IIRC. You might need to add/delete a dummy
domain to get the assign.cdb file rebuilt.


Shai wrote:
  

Well... I know where it goes... it still goes locally to my account ...

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Shai sha...@gmail.com wrote:


I did this.. and now I don't get any email... and I have no idea where
its going to either :(

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
  

In that case, I think you can simply remove the domain from the
/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file. See
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Rcpthosts

I'd do that with qmail stopped to be on the safe side (I see a
corresponding
.lock file).

Shai wrote:


Hi Eric (Long time no talk!),

But I don't want to delete the domain... I still have emails I want to
have access to ...

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
  

Shai wrote:


Hi,

I decided that I don't want to maintain my own mail server and I
want
to let another service handle this for me.
Notice, I have several domains, and this decision has been made for
just one of them, not all.
I've setup everything but local emails (ie. emails that are being
sent
from the local cron or other tasks sending to the local server on
the
old mail server.

What exactly do I need to do, so that all the local email being sent
to this domain, don't go to the old server but get forwarded to my
ISP
and then to my new host for my mail server?

Thanks in advance!
Shai
  

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Re: [qmailtoaster] let another handle my email

2009-02-16 Thread Shai
Well... that's a little over the top for me mate :)
Like I said in a previous email... I was able to resolve my problem in
another simple way.

Shai

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Philip phi...@ows.ch wrote:
 Hello
 you ll notice that in the (if default setup) /var/qmail/users directory
 a file assign (text file)
 a binary file cdb (built from assign)
 and a lock file assign.lock

 When you add a new domain or a new domain alias
 that domain is added to the assign file and the cdb file is built
 The assign is a very important file, in the old days when the uid, gid of
 vpopmail wasnt fixed and specified to 89:89
 you  had to edit that assign file when you were migrating otherwise you d
 face big issues with permissions :)

 basically if you look at the file you can see :
 +domain_name-:domain_name:uid:gid:path_of_the_mail_boxes:-::

 +dom1.com-:dom1.com:89:89:/home/vpopmail/domains/dom1.com:-::  - normal
 domain
 +dom2.com-:dom1.com:89:89:/home/vpopmail/domains/dom1.com:-::  - domain
 alias of dom1


 I dont use that much that qmail-newu command but qmail-newmrh I use that
 almost every day to add domains to our front end smtp servers (scanners)

 If you are interested look at the vpopmail source package and vadddomain.c
 or vaddaliasdomain.c
 you ll understand what files are modified when you add or remove a domain

 and if you just want your smtp to accept mail for a specific domain but to
 deliver mail to another machine, that domain must be added to only one file
 but that's another subject


 Shai wrote:

 Hi Philip,

 Thanks for the tip... but I didn't understand it. Can you elaborate?

 Thanks,
 Shai

 On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Philip phi...@ows.ch wrote:


 Hello
 assign is an editable file (but be careful what you do with it)
 then the command qmail-newu builds a cdb binary file called cdb


 Eric Shubert wrote:


 I'm not really clear about what you're trying to accomplish. There are 2
 other places though (other than the sql database) where your domains are
 defined. One is the /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains, and the other is
 /var/qmail/users/assign. The later has a cdb file associated with it
 that's
 a little tricky to get generated IIRC. You might need to add/delete a
 dummy
 domain to get the assign.cdb file rebuilt.


 Shai wrote:


 Well... I know where it goes... it still goes locally to my account ...

 Shai

 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Shai sha...@gmail.com wrote:


 I did this.. and now I don't get any email... and I have no idea where
 its going to either :(

 Shai

 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:


 In that case, I think you can simply remove the domain from the
 /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file. See
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Rcpthosts

 I'd do that with qmail stopped to be on the safe side (I see a
 corresponding
 .lock file).

 Shai wrote:


 Hi Eric (Long time no talk!),

 But I don't want to delete the domain... I still have emails I want
 to
 have access to ...

 Shai

 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net
 wrote:


 Shai wrote:


 Hi,

 I decided that I don't want to maintain my own mail server and I
 want
 to let another service handle this for me.
 Notice, I have several domains, and this decision has been made
 for
 just one of them, not all.
 I've setup everything but local emails (ie. emails that are being
 sent
 from the local cron or other tasks sending to the local server on
 the
 old mail server.

 What exactly do I need to do, so that all the local email being
 sent
 to this domain, don't go to the old server but get forwarded to my
 ISP
 and then to my new host for my mail server?

 Thanks in advance!
 Shai


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Re: [qmailtoaster] let another handle my email

2009-02-15 Thread Eric Shubert
In that case, I think you can simply remove the domain from the 
/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file. See 
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Rcpthosts


I'd do that with qmail stopped to be on the safe side (I see a 
corresponding .lock file).


Shai wrote:

Hi Eric (Long time no talk!),

But I don't want to delete the domain... I still have emails I want to
have access to ...

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

Shai wrote:

Hi,

I decided that I don't want to maintain my own mail server and I want
to let another service handle this for me.
Notice, I have several domains, and this decision has been made for
just one of them, not all.
I've setup everything but local emails (ie. emails that are being sent
from the local cron or other tasks sending to the local server on the
old mail server.

What exactly do I need to do, so that all the local email being sent
to this domain, don't go to the old server but get forwarded to my ISP
and then to my new host for my mail server?

Thanks in advance!
Shai

Delete the domain from your toaster
# /home/vpopmail/bin/vdeldomain yourdomain.com

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Re: [qmailtoaster] let another handle my email

2009-02-15 Thread Eric Shubert
I'm not really clear about what you're trying to accomplish. There are 2 
other places though (other than the sql database) where your domains are 
defined. One is the /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains, and the other is 
/var/qmail/users/assign. The later has a cdb file associated with it 
that's a little tricky to get generated IIRC. You might need to 
add/delete a dummy domain to get the assign.cdb file rebuilt.



Shai wrote:

Well... I know where it goes... it still goes locally to my account ...

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Shai sha...@gmail.com wrote:

I did this.. and now I don't get any email... and I have no idea where
its going to either :(

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

In that case, I think you can simply remove the domain from the
/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file. See
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Rcpthosts

I'd do that with qmail stopped to be on the safe side (I see a corresponding
.lock file).

Shai wrote:

Hi Eric (Long time no talk!),

But I don't want to delete the domain... I still have emails I want to
have access to ...

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

Shai wrote:

Hi,

I decided that I don't want to maintain my own mail server and I want
to let another service handle this for me.
Notice, I have several domains, and this decision has been made for
just one of them, not all.
I've setup everything but local emails (ie. emails that are being sent
from the local cron or other tasks sending to the local server on the
old mail server.

What exactly do I need to do, so that all the local email being sent
to this domain, don't go to the old server but get forwarded to my ISP
and then to my new host for my mail server?

Thanks in advance!
Shai

Delete the domain from your toaster
# /home/vpopmail/bin/vdeldomain yourdomain.com

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Re: [qmailtoaster] let another handle my email

2009-02-15 Thread Shai
Hi,

Removing the domain from virtualdomains worked!
Now, I can, for example, set the crontab mailto=myem...@mydomain.com ;
and it is sent out and not treated as a local delivery, as it would
before.

Thanks for the help :)

Shai

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
 I'm not really clear about what you're trying to accomplish. There are 2
 other places though (other than the sql database) where your domains are
 defined. One is the /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains, and the other is
 /var/qmail/users/assign. The later has a cdb file associated with it that's
 a little tricky to get generated IIRC. You might need to add/delete a dummy
 domain to get the assign.cdb file rebuilt.


 Shai wrote:

 Well... I know where it goes... it still goes locally to my account ...

 Shai

 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Shai sha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I did this.. and now I don't get any email... and I have no idea where
 its going to either :(

 Shai

 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

 In that case, I think you can simply remove the domain from the
 /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file. See
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Rcpthosts

 I'd do that with qmail stopped to be on the safe side (I see a
 corresponding
 .lock file).

 Shai wrote:

 Hi Eric (Long time no talk!),

 But I don't want to delete the domain... I still have emails I want to
 have access to ...

 Shai

 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

 Shai wrote:

 Hi,

 I decided that I don't want to maintain my own mail server and I want
 to let another service handle this for me.
 Notice, I have several domains, and this decision has been made for
 just one of them, not all.
 I've setup everything but local emails (ie. emails that are being
 sent
 from the local cron or other tasks sending to the local server on the
 old mail server.

 What exactly do I need to do, so that all the local email being sent
 to this domain, don't go to the old server but get forwarded to my
 ISP
 and then to my new host for my mail server?

 Thanks in advance!
 Shai

 Delete the domain from your toaster
 # /home/vpopmail/bin/vdeldomain yourdomain.com

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