[QUAD-L] JILL KINMONT, Old Quads and "- Stars of Survival

2005-08-24 Thread Lori Michaelson






I mentioned/asked this awhile ago ... has anyone heard if the girl quad "Jill Kinmont"
who was injured (in the mid 1950s) in a skiing accident is still alive?  It's been almost 50 yrs since
her injury.
 
Two movies (The Other Side of the Mountain ... 1975 and it's sequel ... 1978) portrays
her true-life story. -->  Her "Olympic skiing hopeful" accident and then her life as a quad 
and her first male relationship.
 
Marilyn Hassett plays Jill and I think Beau Bridges as her boyfriend.  Been a LONG time
since I've seen the movie.  I can't recall if I saw it pre or post my injury. 
 
I REMEMBER HER HAPPINESS AT PICKING UP A POTATOE CHIP ALL BE HERSELF FOR THE FIRST
TIME AND HER BOYFRIEND'S DISSAPOINTMENT OVER IT - JERK!
 
AND HER BEAU EMPTYING HER LEG BAG.  I THINK THAT WAS THE MOVIE.
 
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/002-6670415-5292054  <--- read the reviews
 
But I think she, not Joni, was (at the very least) the first formally recognized person facing
tragedy, stardom and/or life as a quad.
 
Is she still alive?  Looks like the movies are out of print.  :-(
 
A. I just found these links but no time to look at each.  But a glance at this one
http://www.jkbs.org/aboutjill.htm  shows she has aged and imples SHE IS STILL ALIVE!
As in 2001 she was a featured artist AND now teaches school in a town near MAMMOTH, CA!
 
http://www.cureparalysis.org/pioneers/kinmont.html http://teachski.com/articles/jillkinmont.htm http://www.jkbs.org/aboutjill.htm http://www.jkbs.org/FOJKBShome.htm http://www.jkbs.org/index.htm 
 
Lori Michaelson
C4/5 complete quad, 25 years post
Tucson, AZ
 
 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 08/24/05 16:41:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] "super quads"- Stars of Survival
 
 
Stars of Survival, is my thing.  People actually pay to watch others risk
their lives in death defying acts and live to tell of it.
While most of the members aren't paid, lol, they too have survived, and lived
to tell their stories.
 
Professionally, I'm met some special people who have gone out and allow their
stars to shine.  Jim Lubin is one that I haven't met. yet, but only time
will tell.
Judith Human, Ed Roberts, Jim Brady, Christopher Reeve, Paul Berg, Joni Tada
and so many more.
 
I think that you should write more often a lot more often.  Every little
bit helps!
W
 









Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

2005-08-24 Thread ~LittleQuad~
right because i cant at allwe should be grateful for what we have instead of griping for moreStacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



That is awesome.  I've tried and tried in rehab and just can't.  I hear so many stories and watch the real world and one of the girls in dating a para, he got in the van without a board. It is so impressive.  Im not mad that that I have to use one cuz it could always be worse than it is.
 
Stacy

- Original Message - 
From: ~LittleQuad~ 
To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-list post 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

i've seen quad transfers without boards...curtis...he's c 6/7 and never has used a board as long as i've known him.he's very impressiveStacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 





Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and cannot in anyway do that.  I have to have my board and I'm paraplegic.  My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I am way strong enough.  My tone doesn't work with me like yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.
 
Stacy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers


In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723 writes:

hey paul
 
can you do a weight shift in your chair or turn yourself at night?  if not that would be a good starting point. i'm c-5/6 incomplete, have very weak tricepts and have been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of years.  i transfer to the shower chair, stander, and bed.  i use the tone in my legs to help me move.  when i start to lean forward my spasms automatically kick in to help me lean back.  when you first start transfering you'll have a tendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chair it will slide away from you.  i use my tone to give me a push to lift and move over.  i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD).  when my tone is real bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, though.  
 
i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the floor
 

 

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

2005-08-24 Thread Stacy Harim




That is awesome.  I've tried and tried in rehab and just can't.  
I hear so many stories and watch the real world and one of the girls in dating a 
para, he got in the van without a board. It is so impressive.  Im not mad 
that that I have to use one cuz it could always be worse than it is.
 
Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: ~LittleQuad~ 
  To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-list 
  post 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:20 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  i've seen quad transfers without boards...curtis...he's c 6/7 and never 
  has used a board as long as i've known him.he's very 
  impressiveStacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote: 
  




Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and 
cannot in anyway do that.  I have to have my board and I'm 
paraplegic.  My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I 
am way strong enough.  My tone doesn't work with me like yours does 
with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.
 
Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 
  AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  
  In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, 
  TheOmen723 writes:
  
hey paul
 
can you do a weight shift in your chair or 
turn yourself at night?  if not that would be a good starting 
point. i'm c-5/6 incomplete, have very weak tricepts and have 
been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of 
years.  i transfer to the shower chair, stander, and 
bed.  i use the tone in my legs to help me move.  when i start 
to lean forward my spasms automatically kick in to help me lean 
back.  when you first start transfering you'll have 
a tendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chair it 
will slide away from you.  i use my tone to give me a push to 
lift and move over.  i have never ended up on the floor doing a 
transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD).  when my tone is real 
bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, though.  
 
i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the 
floor
 
  
   


Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

2005-08-24 Thread Stacy Harim




Houston, 
 
I've had a taste of both levels.  I was a quad when I got out of 
my coma.  I just thought that I would love it if I could use my arms.  
I'm T 7/8 but my torso is so long that I am paralyzed right below my chest. 
I think quads want to be paras and paras want to walk.  AB's want a better 
life, etc..  It goes on and on.  Everyone wants something better than 
what they have.
 
Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: Houston809 ; dave 
  oconnell ; Stacy Harim ; quadlist ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:01 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  
  Hi Houston,
   
  I agree with you about Dave.  I think we all are super just by 
  showing each other, and everyone else, that we're here and doing whatever we 
  can to live a good life.  Each day adds up, and as the years go by we 
  learn a little more about ourselves.  I hope yours is a lucky 7.  
  :)
   
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, 
  USA  
  Houston809 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  Dave,You sound 2 be a 
super quad yourself. Keep pushing you and others truly inspire me. I’ve met 
a few quads that stand, I’ve only met 1 so far that actually walk  I like 
some others pray for medical break throughs. I’d love 2 just have a little 
more return. I just want to be a low level Para.Houston On 
8/23/05 4:25 PM, "Ol' Man River" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
when i was at Wayne state univ in 1970 we had a 
  few walking quads - we called them super-quads.  they walked with 
  short arm braces - it was very laborious and not completely functional out 
  in the real world but still, they were impressive.  I'm a incomplete 
  c3 from a trampoline and i used to stand to put my w/c into the back seat 
  of my 2 door cars.  my legs are now not trustworthy enough for such 
  activity so i have switched to a power chair and a van with a ramp. 
   i have lived alone before and still can but prefer to have an a/b 
  around in case i fall.  getting up is outside my abilities.  i 
  drag my butt in and out of bed and get some help from triggered leg spasms 
  to get there.  i use back and leg muscles to get onto the raised jon. 
   i really would like to offer more help to you on the list but it's 
  evident we don't have all that much in common.  i do suffer from many 
  of the ills and dep!  ressions  described on here and of course 
  am just as helpless as any quad in many public situations. 
    heavy doors, curbs, narrow jon stalls, high drinking 
  fountains, all are just as unusable to me as they are you.  i do 
  however, frequently ask for and get cheerful help from anyone around 
   women seem particularly drawn to my helpless situations.  not 
  my first idea for meeting chicks tho.  the winning combo is - never 
  give up - persistence wins in the 
  end.DaveStacy Harim 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Wow, 
that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and 
cannot in anyway do that.  I have to have my board and I'm 
paraplegic.  My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression 
b/c I am way strong enough.  My tone doesn't work with me like 
yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very 
impressed by you. Stacy
- 
  Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 
  23, 2005 11:24 AMSubject: [QUAD-L] 
  TransfersIn a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard 
  Time, TheOmen723 writes:
  hey 
paul can you do a weight shift 
in your chair or turn yourself at night?  if not that would be 
a good starting point. I'm c-5/6 incomplete, have very weak tricepts 
and have been transfering independently (without sliding board) for 
couple of years.  i transfer to the shower chair, stander, and 
bed.  i use the tone in my legs to help me move.  when i 
start to lean forward my spasms automatically kick in to help me 
lean back.  when you first start transfering you'll have a 
tendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chair it will slide 
away from you.  i use my tone to give me a push to lift and 
move over.  i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer 
(KNOCK ON WOOD).  when my tone is real bad and i don't 
feel safe doing it i ask for help, though.   i'd 
rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the 
floor Dave - C3,  1967, Phoenix AZ  
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[QUAD-L] "super quads"- Stars of Survival

2005-08-24 Thread wheelchair
Nice going, Penny!
Stars of Survival, is my thing.  People actually pay to watch others risk 
their 
lives in death defying acts and live to tell of it.
While most of the members aren't paid, lol, they too have survived, and lived 
to 
tell their stories.

Professionally, I'm met some special people who have gone out and allow their
stars to shine.  Jim Lubin is one that I haven't met. yet, but only time 
will tell.
Judith Human, Ed Roberts, Jim Brady, Christopher Reeve, Paul Berg, Joni Tada
and so many more.

I think that you should write more often a lot more often.  Every little 
bit helps!
W

In a message dated 8/24/05 12:56:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Just had to throw my thoughts out here on this subject of "super quads." I 
have been reading the post and find it amazing that you all do not see 
yourselves as "super individuals," I certainly find you all that way. 
Whenever I start 
to slip into a "pity party" attitude I come online and always find a post 
that 
picks me up. I know that is not the intention of the poster because rarely 
are any posts directed to me, but just reading what most of you face and how 
you 
all deal with each issue encourages me. I think that each and every person on 
this list is incredible, and in my mind it proves the old saying "that which 
does not kill you only makes you stronger" Recently, here locally and in some 
surrounding towns they had an unsung hero's tribute, and I think I'd have to 
say that my hero's can be found on this list.  You might be surprised at the 
impact you have on peoples lives that you touch.  What I find sad is that 
most 
of you are rarely told how important you are, so I did not want to miss out 
on 
the opportunity to let you know what my thoughts are.


Penny   
 >>



Re: [QUAD-L] "super quads"

2005-08-24 Thread Silas Shelburne




  Well thank you Penny!  You just made my day!  
  
  Silas 
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:54 
AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] "super quads"

Just had to throw my thoughts out here on this subject of "super 
quads." I have been reading the post and find it amazing that you all do not 
see yourselves as "super individuals," I certainly find you all that way. 
Whenever I start to slip into a "pity party" attitude I come online and 
always find a post that picks me up. I know that is not the intention of the 
poster because rarely are any posts directed to me, but just reading what 
most of you face and how you all deal with each issue encourages me. I 
think that each and every person on this list is incredible, and in my mind 
it proves the old saying "that which does not kill you only makes you 
stronger" Recently, here locally and in some surrounding towns they had an 
unsung hero's tribute, and I think I'd have to say that my hero's can be 
found on this list.  You might be surprised at the impact you have on 
peoples lives that you touch.  What I find sad is that most of 
you are rarely told how important you are, so I did not want to miss 
out on the opportunity to let you know what my thoughts are.
 
 
Penny   


 



Re: [QUAD-L] "super quads"

2005-08-24 Thread David K. Kelmer

Hi Penny,
 
I couldn't agree with you more!  Thanks for reminding us of where the real "hero's" are at.
 
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just had to throw my thoughts out here on this subject of "super quads." I have been reading the post and find it amazing that you all do not see yourselves as "super individuals," I certainly find you all that way. Whenever I start to slip into a "pity party" attitude I come online and always find a post that picks me up. I know that is not the intention of the poster because rarely are any posts directed to me, but just reading what most of you face and how you all deal with each issue encourages me. I think that each and every person on this list is incredible, and in my mind it proves the old saying "that which does not kill you only makes you stronger" Recently, here locally and in some surrounding towns they had an unsung hero's tribute, and I think I'd have to say that my hero's can be found on this list.  You might be surprised at the impact you have on peoples lives that you touch.  What I find sad is that most of you are rarely told how
 important you are, so I did not want to miss out on the opportunity to let you know what my thoughts are.
 
 
Penny   

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

2005-08-24 Thread David K. Kelmer

Hi Houston,
 
I agree with you about Dave.  I think we all are super just by showing each other, and everyone else, that we're here and doing whatever we can to live a good life.  Each day adds up, and as the years go by we learn a little more about ourselves.  I hope yours is a lucky 7.  :)
 
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA  
Houston809 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dave,You sound 2 be a super quad yourself. Keep pushing you and others truly inspire me. I’ve met a few quads that stand, I’ve only met 1 so far that actually walk . I like some others pray for medical break throughs. I’d love 2 just have a little more return. I just want to be a low level Para.Houston On 8/23/05 4:25 PM, "Ol' Man River" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
when i was at Wayne state univ in 1970 we had a few walking quads - we called them super-quads.  they walked with short arm braces - it was very laborious and not completely functional out in the real world but still, they were impressive.  I'm a incomplete c3 from a trampoline and i used to stand to put my w/c into the back seat of my 2 door cars.  my legs are now not trustworthy enough for such activity so i have switched to a power chair and a van with a ramp.  i have lived alone before and still can but prefer to have an a/b around in case i fall.  getting up is outside my abilities.  i drag my butt in and out of bed and get some help from triggered leg spasms to get there.  i use back and leg muscles to get onto the raised jon.  i really would like to offer more help to you on the list but it's evident we don't have all that much in common.  i d!
 o suffer
 from many of the ills and dep!  ressions  described on here and of course am just as helpless as any quad in many public situations.   heavy doors, curbs, narrow jon stalls, high drinking fountains, all are just as unusable to me as they are you.  i do however, frequently ask for and get cheerful help from anyone around  women seem particularly drawn to my helpless situations.  not my first idea for meeting chicks tho.  the winning combo is - never give up - persistence wins in the end.DaveStacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and cannot in anyway do that.  I have to have my board and I'm paraplegic.  My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I am way strong enough.  My tone doesn't work with me like yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you. Stacy
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 AMSubject: [QUAD-L] TransfersIn a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723 writes:
hey paul can you do a weight shift in your chair or turn yourself at night?  if not that would be a good starting point. I'm c-5/6 incomplete, have very weak tricepts and have been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of years.  i transfer to the shower chair, stander, and bed.  i use the tone in my legs to help me move.  when i start to lean forward my spasms automatically kick in to help me lean back.  when you first start transfering you'll have a tendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chair it will slide away from you.  i use my tone to give me a push to lift and move over.  i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD).  when my tone is real bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, though.   i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the
 floor Dave - C3,  1967, Phoenix AZ  __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: [QUAD-L] "super quads"

2005-08-24 Thread River Wolfe
Talk about a "super quad"...1Quadriplegic woman sails English ChannelThe Associated PressLONDON — A British woman Tuesday became the first quadriplegic to sail solo between Britain and France across the English Channel, coast guards said.Hilary Lister, 33, who can move only her head, eyes and mouth, took six hours to navigate her boat unaided through one of the world’s busiest and most treacherous shipping lanes.“It is very emotional for me. I was absolutely certain that once I got in the boat that I could make it to France. I am too stubborn to give up,” Lister said after arriving at the French port of Calais.“I want to get able-bodied people to rethink their views about the disabled.”Coast guards at the southern English port of Dover, where Lister began her journey, said it was the first time a quadriplegic had made the voyage solo.Her boat has been adapted to be controlled by the “sip and puff” method, allowing her to adjust the sails and tiller by blowing and sucking through two straws.Lister, from Canterbury, England, was diagnosed with the degenerative disease reflex sympathetic dystrophy as a teenager.On Aug 24, 2005, at 1:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just had to throw my thoughts out here on this subject of "super quads." I have been reading the post and find it amazing that you all do not see yourselves as "super individuals," I certainly find you all that way. Whenever I start to slip into a "pity party" attitude I come online and always find a post that picks me up. I know that is not the intention of the poster because rarely are any posts directed to me, but just reading what most of you face and how you all deal with each issue encourages me. I think that each and every person on this list is incredible, and in my mind it proves the old saying "that which does not kill you only makes you stronger" Recently, here locally and in some surrounding towns they had an unsung hero's tribute, and I think I'd have to say that my hero's can be found on this list.  You might be surprised at the impact you have on peoples lives that you touch.  What I find sad is that most of you are rarely told how important you are, so I did not want to miss out on the opportunity to let you know what my thoughts are.     Penny   

Re: [QUAD-L] PIE SYSTEM for Sale

2005-08-24 Thread Ol' Man River
couldn't find it on ebay but here's the skinny on it.
http://www.safetyplus.net/homehealthprod1.html
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mrs Wessman still has the PIE system and many accessories available and readyto sell. It's not new, but hasn't been used since they received it. Her son decidedafter it was purchased that he didn't want it and now the family is stuck with it.Send her an email and make an offer on the system. For those who wish to know howit works, email her at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]This is truly the best system of its kind and deserves some attention. I have noidea what her asking price is, but I'm sure anyone can check E-Bay for like pricing.WDave - C3,  1967, Phoenix AZ
		 Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 

[QUAD-L] PIE SYSTEM for Sale

2005-08-24 Thread wheelchair
Mrs Wessman still has the PIE system and many accessories available and ready
to sell.  It's not new, but hasn't been used since they received it.  Her son 
decided
after it was purchased that he didn't want it and now the family is stuck 
with it.
Send her an email and make an offer on the system.  For those who wish to 
know how
it works, email her at:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is truly the best system of its kind and deserves some attention.  I 
have no
idea what her asking price is, but I'm sure anyone can check E-Bay for like 
pricing.

W



Re: [QUAD-L] "super quads"

2005-08-24 Thread Ol' Man River

Wow Penny, you said it all here.  I too think everyone here on this list is a super quad.  super quads are survivors, they are the ones who refuse to give up, they are the ones who can say, "is that all you got?  my mother hits harder than that."  Any human that gets crunched into this sub world type of existence and refuses to go down with the tide is definitely a super human as well as a super quad.  the absolute accomplishments aren't the proper measurements so much as the relative accomplishments.  We all have different limits and the more we bump up against them and refuse to settle for less, the more super we become.  for some it's breathing for a while without help and for others its transferring without help.  both are just as big a success in the grand scheme.  its all a defiant cry of success and refusal to succumb to the inevitable.  rocky balboa better look out - there a!
 re some
 real kings (and queens) of the walk here now.  Dave

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just had to throw my thoughts out here on this subject of "super quads." I have been reading the post and find it amazing that you all do not see yourselves as "super individuals," I certainly find you all that way. Whenever I start to slip into a "pity party" attitude I come online and always find a post that picks me up. I know that is not the intention of the poster because rarely are any posts directed to me, but just reading what most of you face and how you all deal with each issue encourages me. I think that each and every person on this list is incredible, and in my mind it proves the old saying "that which does not kill you only makes you stronger" Recently, here locally and in some surrounding towns they had an unsung hero's tribute, and I think I'd have to say that my hero's can be found on this list.  You might be surprised at the impact you have on peoples lives that you touch.  What I find sad is that most of you are rarely told how
 important you are, so I did not want to miss out on the opportunity to let you know what my thoughts are.
 
 
Penny   Dave - C3,  1967, Phoenix AZ
		 Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 

Re: [QUAD-L] "super quads"

2005-08-24 Thread Quietstream25322



    Thanks Penny !  Yes there are some amazing people 
on this list, I really admire all the higher quads on here that have no use of 
their arms and/or on a vent,( Many times I get so frustrated being a c-6 and 
having use of my arms and not needing a vent..)that my heart goes out to 
those on here like that because I was like that for over 2 months myself. I 
eventually got back arm movement but I remember how tough that can be.Like 
you said what don't kill us makes us stronger. You never know what all you can 
handle in this life sometimes until you have no other choice.  God bless 
you all !
  
Dan


[QUAD-L] "super quads"

2005-08-24 Thread Aleo0813


Just had to throw my thoughts out here on this subject of "super quads." I have been reading the post and find it amazing that you all do not see yourselves as "super individuals," I certainly find you all that way. Whenever I start to slip into a "pity party" attitude I come online and always find a post that picks me up. I know that is not the intention of the poster because rarely are any posts directed to me, but just reading what most of you face and how you all deal with each issue encourages me. I think that each and every person on this list is incredible, and in my mind it proves the old saying "that which does not kill you only makes you stronger" Recently, here locally and in some surrounding towns they had an unsung hero's tribute, and I think I'd have to say that my hero's can be found on this list.  You might be surprised at the impact you have on peoples lives that you touch.  What I find sad is that most of you are rarely told how important you are, so I did not want to miss out on the opportunity to let you know what my thoughts are.
 
 
Penny   


RE: [QUAD-L] Junk

2005-08-24 Thread Aaron Mann



Chris used to be my 
attendant for ~ 3 years.  Good guy great heart.  Definitely has a 
passion and is pursuing it.


From: QuadPirate 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 
11:57 AMTo: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: [QUAD-L] 
Junk


  
  

  Hey people,
  Christopher Largen author of "Prescription Pot" has written a new 
  book called "JUNK".
   
  Christopher use to post here a every now and then and this book is 
  getting some awesome reviews so be looking for it,  it's a 
  mockumentary.
   
  Let's give him a hand.
   
  Mark
   
  
  THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT DECLARES WAR ON JUNK FOOD!
  www.WaronJunk.com (turn your speakers 
  on)
   
  RIOTOUS COMEDY PUTS THE "UGH" BACK INTO "DONUT," LAMPOONS 
  PROHIBITION, FOOD CRAVINGS, AND MISGUIDED CRUSADES
   
  Christopher Largen's Iconoclastic Novel JUNK Latest Release From 
  Boutique Fiction House ENC Press
   
  NEW YORK-TEXAS - Court mandates liposuction. Cops are busted for 
  selling doughnuts. Protesters demand ban on Charlie & the Chocolate 
  Factory. U.S. military forces eradicate Africa's cocoa fields. Welcome to 
  the dystopian satire JUNK, where the lives of an undercover police 
  officer, an inner-city food-abuse counselor, and a black-market baker 
  collide with devastating consequences.
   
  A hilarious and tragic exploration of moralistic prohibition 
  policies, Junk transcends the false dichotomies posed by conservative and 
  liberal ideologies, and raises more questions than it answers: What are 
  the public effects of private health choices? When legislators respond to 
  epidemics with criminal sanctions, do they exacerbate the health crisis? 
  Do mafia kingpins support the prohibition of their products? Can public 
  safety and personal responsibility ever become reconciled through 
  government policies?
   
  Preliminary reviews are calling the novel a classic, comparing it to 
  Mark Twain, Will Rogers, George Orwell, and Kurt Vonnegut. JUNK's author, 
  Christopher Largen, is a leading proponent of drug-policy reform. His 
  credits include Prescription Pot (a nonfiction exploration of the U.S. 
  Government's medical cannabis program), and articles in various 
  publications, including the Village Voice, High Times, Nashville Scene, 
  Ft. Worth Weekly, and Cannabis Culture. He is a frequent guest speaker at 
  colleges and festivals across America.
   
  Mr. Largen discovered that writing about cannabis gave him a severe 
  case of the munchies, and JUNK flowed forth like cream soda. In the 
  gluttonous tradition of Supersize Me, he method-wrote JUNK during a 
  three-month food binge, hoping to augment his prose with a sugar rush. He 
  gained 25 pounds and inspired inquiries from concerned clerks at his local 
  convenience store, where he loaded up on ice cream, hot dogs, and candy 
  bars. Since finishing the novel, Mr. Largen claims to have reformed his 
  dietary habits, but federal authorities have not yet completed their 
  investigation.
   
  WARNING: PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO APPREHEND THE AUTHOR, AS HE MAY BE 
  ARMED WITH SIZEABLE QUANTITIES OF FRIED PEANUT BUTTER AND BANANA 
  SANDWICHES.
   
  JUNK REVIEWS
  "JUNK is a profound and absurd tragicomedy, an engaging page-turner 
  that reads like a film. Largen devours tough issues like morality, 
  appetite, bigotry and bureaucracy with biting irreverence, and yet it is 
  his characters who shine brightest. JUNK will entertain, intrigue and 
  provoke, inspiring debate and exploration as humanity wrestles to define 
  the relationship between health and public policy." - Joe Camp, writer, 
  producer, and director of the Benji films.
   
  "What I have just read is a hit. I loved every second. I started 
  reading it and didn't stop until I was done. When I took a break and went 
  into the kitchen for a snack, a chill went down my spine. I could never 
  live in a world like JUNK; just the thought of it was quite terrifying. 
  The book is great, and the thought of this marvel on film Oooo, I 
  can't wait! Bottom line - the characters were original, the story was 
  entertaining, frightening, realistic and at times quite heart-wrenching. 
  It blended together so well. JUNK is a bloody hit, man! Well, I don't know 
  about you, but I'm going to have myself a Charlotte Russe." - Graham 
  Armstrong, college freshman
   
  "JUNK is tragicomedy for thinking people. No partisan camp is immune 
  from Largen's wit and wisdom, and he takes no prisoners. It was only after 
  pulmonary exhaustion quieted my laughter that I could discern the web of 
  political, moral and personal issues that unit

[QUAD-L] Junk

2005-08-24 Thread QuadPirate






Hey people,
Christopher Largen author of "Prescription Pot" has written a new book called "JUNK".
 
Christopher use to post here a every now and then and this book is getting some awesome reviews so be looking for it,  it's a mockumentary.
 
Let's give him a hand.
 
Mark
 

THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT DECLARES WAR ON JUNK FOOD!
www.WaronJunk.com (turn your speakers on)
 
RIOTOUS COMEDY PUTS THE "UGH" BACK INTO "DONUT," LAMPOONS PROHIBITION, FOOD CRAVINGS, AND MISGUIDED CRUSADES
 
Christopher Largen's Iconoclastic Novel JUNK Latest Release From Boutique Fiction House ENC Press
 
NEW YORK-TEXAS - Court mandates liposuction. Cops are busted for selling doughnuts. Protesters demand ban on Charlie & the Chocolate Factory. U.S. military forces eradicate Africa's cocoa fields. Welcome to the dystopian satire JUNK, where the lives of an undercover police officer, an inner-city food-abuse counselor, and a black-market baker collide with devastating consequences.
 
A hilarious and tragic exploration of moralistic prohibition policies, Junk transcends the false dichotomies posed by conservative and liberal ideologies, and raises more questions than it answers: What are the public effects of private health choices? When legislators respond to epidemics with criminal sanctions, do they exacerbate the health crisis? Do mafia kingpins support the prohibition of their products? Can public safety and personal responsibility ever become reconciled through government policies?
 
Preliminary reviews are calling the novel a classic, comparing it to Mark Twain, Will Rogers, George Orwell, and Kurt Vonnegut. JUNK's author, Christopher Largen, is a leading proponent of drug-policy reform. His credits include Prescription Pot (a nonfiction exploration of the U.S. Government's medical cannabis program), and articles in various publications, including the Village Voice, High Times, Nashville Scene, Ft. Worth Weekly, and Cannabis Culture. He is a frequent guest speaker at colleges and festivals across America.
 
Mr. Largen discovered that writing about cannabis gave him a severe case of the munchies, and JUNK flowed forth like cream soda. In the gluttonous tradition of Supersize Me, he method-wrote JUNK during a three-month food binge, hoping to augment his prose with a sugar rush. He gained 25 pounds and inspired inquiries from concerned clerks at his local convenience store, where he loaded up on ice cream, hot dogs, and candy bars. Since finishing the novel, Mr. Largen claims to have reformed his dietary habits, but federal authorities have not yet completed their investigation.
 
WARNING: PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO APPREHEND THE AUTHOR, AS HE MAY BE ARMED WITH SIZEABLE QUANTITIES OF FRIED PEANUT BUTTER AND BANANA SANDWICHES.
 
JUNK REVIEWS
"JUNK is a profound and absurd tragicomedy, an engaging page-turner that reads like a film. Largen devours tough issues like morality, appetite, bigotry and bureaucracy with biting irreverence, and yet it is his characters who shine brightest. JUNK will entertain, intrigue and provoke, inspiring debate and exploration as humanity wrestles to define the relationship between health and public policy." - Joe Camp, writer, producer, and director of the Benji films.
 
"What I have just read is a hit. I loved every second. I started reading it and didn't stop until I was done. When I took a break and went into the kitchen for a snack, a chill went down my spine. I could never live in a world like JUNK; just the thought of it was quite terrifying. The book is great, and the thought of this marvel on film Oooo, I can't wait! Bottom line - the characters were original, the story was entertaining, frightening, realistic and at times quite heart-wrenching. It blended together so well. JUNK is a bloody hit, man! Well, I don't know about you, but I'm going to have myself a Charlotte Russe." - Graham Armstrong, college freshman
 
"JUNK is tragicomedy for thinking people. No partisan camp is immune from Largen's wit and wisdom, and he takes no prisoners. It was only after pulmonary exhaustion quieted my laughter that I could discern the web of political, moral and personal issues that unite modern archetypes into a cohesive and frighteningly believable plot, set in a not too distant future." - Dr. James Quinn, Professor of Addictions and Criminology, University of North Texas
 
"Brilliant! JUNK is satire at its best!" - Michael Constantine McConnell, author of Detroit Stories
 
"JUNK is a classic comedy about America's longest war in the style of Mark Twain or Will Rogers." - Jack A. Cole, executive director, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
 
"I loved this book so much that I will read it again! JUNK is a hilarious, horrifying, thought-provoking ride. So simple, yet so eloquent! Read JUNK at your first opportunity, but eat a snack first. It might be the last treat you're ever allowed to swallow!" - George McMahon, co-author of Prescription Pot
 
"A brilliant mockumentary with frighteningly Orwellian 

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

2005-08-24 Thread Houston809
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers



Dave,
You sound 2 be a super quad yourself. Keep pushing you and others truly inspire me. I’ve met a few quads that stand, I’ve only met 1 so far that actually walk . I like some others pray for medical break throughs. I’d love 2 just have a little more return. I just want to be a low level Para.
Houston 

On 8/23/05 4:25 PM, "Ol' Man River" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

when i was at Wayne state univ in 1970 we had a few walking quads - we called them super-quads.  they walked with short arm braces - it was very laborious and not completely functional out in the real world but still, they were impressive.  I'm a incomplete c3 from a trampoline and i used to stand to put my w/c into the back seat of my 2 door cars.  my legs are now not trustworthy enough for such activity so i have switched to a power chair and a van with a ramp.  i have lived alone before and still can but prefer to have an a/b around in case i fall.  getting up is outside my abilities.  i drag my butt in and out of bed and get some help from triggered leg spasms to get there.  i use back and leg muscles to get onto the raised jon.  i really would like to offer more help to you on the list but it's evident we don't have all that much in common.  i do suffer from many of the ills and dep!  ressions  described on here and of course am just as helpless as any quad in many public situations.   heavy doors, curbs, narrow jon stalls, high drinking fountains, all are just as unusable to me as they are you.  i do however, frequently ask for and get cheerful help from anyone around  women seem particularly drawn to my helpless situations.  not my first idea for meeting chicks tho.  the winning combo is - never give up - persistence wins in the end.
Dave

Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and cannot in anyway do that.  I have to have my board and I'm paraplegic.  My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I am way strong enough.  My tone doesn't work with me like yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.
 
Stacy
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Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers

In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723 writes:
hey paul
 
can you do a weight shift in your chair or turn yourself at night?  if not that would be a good starting point. I'm c-5/6 incomplete, have very weak tricepts and have been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of years.  i transfer to the shower chair, stander, and bed.  i use the tone in my legs to help me move.  when i start to lean forward my spasms automatically kick in to help me lean back.  when you first start transfering you'll have a tendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chair it will slide away from you.  i use my tone to give me a push to lift and move over.  i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD).  when my tone is real bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, though.  
 
i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the floor
 
 


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Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

2005-08-24 Thread ~LittleQuad~
i've seen quad transfers without boards...curtis...he's c 6/7 and never has used a board as long as i've known him.he's very impressiveStacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and cannot in anyway do that.  I have to have my board and I'm paraplegic.  My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I am way strong enough.  My tone doesn't work with me like yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.
 
Stacy

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers


In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723 writes:

hey paul
 
can you do a weight shift in your chair or turn yourself at night?  if not that would be a good starting point. i'm c-5/6 incomplete, have very weak tricepts and have been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of years.  i transfer to the shower chair, stander, and bed.  i use the tone in my legs to help me move.  when i start to lean forward my spasms automatically kick in to help me lean back.  when you first start transfering you'll have a tendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chair it will slide away from you.  i use my tone to give me a push to lift and move over.  i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD).  when my tone is real bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, though.  
 
i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the floor
 

 

Re: [QUAD-L] get pressure sore well

2005-08-24 Thread wheelchair

In a message dated 8/23/05 2:48:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Hey Chet, 

  Can you use the bag balm right in a open wound?  

  Silas  >>

NO, it says so on the can. Only for close wounds...
W



Re: [QUAD-L] get pressure sore well

2005-08-24 Thread wheelchair
udder balm/bag balm, is also sold at drug stores in a 1 lb green can
for a couple of bucks. Works too!
W

In a message dated 8/23/05 12:59:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Hello Stacy,

  Is where you're having to sit on it because if that's the case you may have 
to

 sacrifice a few day's and stay completely off of it to get it well, plus use 
Bag

 Balm on your pressure sore to speed up the healing process. You can get

 the Bag Balm at any feed and seed store most of the time. Hope it gets better

 for you and then stays away.

 

 Chet   ( Cquad7 ) >>