[QUAD-L] on my way to healing from flap

2006-06-10 Thread Stacy Harim




So far so good. The mattress from kci is pissing me off and the pain is bad 
since no more pca pump but it is healing well. The doc seems to think only a 
cou[le of more weeks in bed and is letting me drive myself to my appt. on tues. 
so seems like good signs to me.
 
Thanks for the well wishes
Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: Stacy Harim 
  Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 1:48 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] my flap 
  surgery
  
  Hi Stacy,
  I hope your surgery went well, and you are feeling okay.  I had two 
  flap surgeries back in '77-'78 while going to Glendale Community Collage 
  in AZ.  After the surgery the pain wasn't bad, but being face-down during 
  the healing time was a real pain in the butt!  Sorry about that, but 
  it was!   :-)
  I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel 
  aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years 
  PostTexas, 
  USA    
  Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  
  



OK, so I finally decided to go for the flap and it is on Wed.  I'm 
really nervous.  The sore is tiny but deep so he is cutting my leg to 
move the muscle to the sore which is almost to my butt.  
 
So I have questions.  I didn't realize how much he's going to cut 
me.  He said he is going to cut a v then a straight line towards my 
knee which is a long cut.  I don’t have feeling but I do feel the pain 
from this sore and I have a bad reaction from morphine through IV so I'm 
scared of the pain and healing time.  The doc says about a month.  
Have any of you gone through anything similar to this?  Also the sore 
is on my left side and in the past my bowel program only worked on that 
side.  I'm concerned about that as well with all of those staples in my 
leg.  
 
Any advice or information I might be missing out on I would love 
it.  My bday is July 3 and I would love to be healed by then.  I 
am staying in the hospital one to two weeks then coming home.  My 
neighbor who helps me with the waiver is going to make sure I have 
meals.  She only works a minimal amount of time with me but between her 
and her mom, they are going to make sure I'm taken care of.  THANK GOD 
I DON’T HAVE TO GO TO A REHAB OR NURSING FACILITY.  Whenever I go for 
testing at the hospital the staff is really nice so I hope the nurses are as 
well.
 
Oh and if you pray I would appreciate them,
 
Stacy


Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here

2006-06-10 Thread DeLiMiTeD4



I didn't know y'all were so depressed? 
 
In a message dated 6/10/2006 9:24:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So many talk of killing themselves in here, why did so many throw a fit when they decided to let Terry Shiavo die?? she sure could not take care of herself.  KK Batte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

When will the time be right for you?  For me it is when I can no longer take care of myself.  Today I realized that I was nearer than I thought to that point.  But I have too much to do yet in this world.

KK


On Jun 10, 2006, at 5:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I think a bottle of valium and a fifth of some good hooch ought to do it.
that's my plan when the time is right.
Dave



Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here

2006-06-10 Thread Danny Hearn
So many talk of killing themselves in here, why did so many throw a fit when they decided to let Terry Shiavo die?? she sure could not take care of herself.  KK Batte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:When will the time be right for you?  For me it is when I can no longer take care of myself.  Today I realized that I was nearer than I thought to that point.  But I have too much to do yet in this world.KK  On Jun 10, 2006, at 5:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I think a bottle of valium and a fifth of some
 good hooch ought to do it.  that's my plan when the time is right.  Dave      

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here

2006-06-10 Thread Tim Thompson
Barbara and all who missed this announcement before,I created a Forum for Quads and our Caregivers that has gone unused for a while now.You're all welcome to join in.Might make subjects like "Total Quad Years" etc much easier to keep from getting over repeated.

http://nw-in.com/InvisionBoard/index.php
 
Some have already posted their stats and creating new Topics is easy!
Signing up is easy, just reply to an e-mail, then after signing in you can create a profile, upload a pic, etc
We have 22 registered members, the more the marrier 
Created by a Quad 4 Quads.
Stunt


Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here

2006-06-10 Thread KK Batte
When will the time be right for you?  For me it is when I can no longer take care of myself.  Today I realized that I was nearer than I thought to that point.  But I have too much to do yet in this world.KKOn Jun 10, 2006, at 5:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a bottle of valium and a fifth of some good hooch ought to do it. that's my plan when the time is right. Dave     

Re: [QUAD-L] Fwd: Rearrange the letters]

2006-06-10 Thread Danny Hearn
COOL , THANKS ERIC !Eric Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Forgot to mention this person doesn't have to much time on his hands.  Look at the hall of fame.  http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/hof.htmlDanny Hearn wrote:  Note: forwarded message attached.   Subject: Fwd: Rearrange the letters]  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:11:19 -0400  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]    -Original Message-From:
 Crossen, Angela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Thompson, Cynthia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Anderson, Jackie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 14:33:02 -0500Subject: FW: [Fwd: Rearrange the letters]   -Original Message-From: Carney, Sammi Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 1:18 PMTo: Cole, Kenya; Busch, Mary E.; Crossen, AngelaSubject: FW: [Fwd: Rearrange the letters]     -Original Message-From: Espinoza, Victor Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:10 PMTo: Massey, Dandreis; Webb, Kent; Carney, Sammi; Johnson, Tanya; Ramirez, Anne; Mendoza, Laura; Castro, M Carmen; Desantiago, NormaCc: Boyd, Jerome; Cabello, Richard; Buettner, TommySubject: FW: [Fwd: Rearrange the letters]   This has got to be one of the cleverestE-mails I've received in awhile.Someone out there either has too muchspare time or is deadly at Scrabble.(Wait till you see the last one)!DORMITORY:When you rearrange the letters:DIRTY ROOMPRESBYTERIAN:When you rearrange the letters:BEST IN PRAYERASTRONOMER:When you rearrange the letters:MOON STARERDESPERATION: When you rearrange the letters:A ROPE ENDS ITTHE EYES:! When you rearrange the letters:THEY SEEGEORGE BUSH:When you rearrange the letters:HE BUGS GORETHE MORSE CODE:When you rearrange the letters:HERE COME DOTSSLOT MACHINES:When you rearrange the letters:CASH LOST IN MEANIMOSITY:When you rearrange the letters:IS NO AMITYELECTION RESULTS:When you rearrange the letters:LIES - LET'S RECOUNTSNOOZE ALARMS:When you rearrange the letters:ALAS! NO MORE Z 'SA DECIMAL POINT:When you rearrange the letters:IM A DOT IN PLACETHE EARTHQUAKES:When you rearrange the letters:THAT QUEER SHAKEELEVEN PLUS TWO:When you rearrange the letters:TWELVE PLUS ONE  Yep! Someone with waaaytoo much time on their hands! Bet your friends haven't seen this one!!!DON'T FORGET TO SHARE THIS Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

Re: [QUAD-L] Fwd: Rearrange the letters]

2006-06-10 Thread Eric Olson




Forgot to mention this person doesn't have to much time on his
hands.  Look at the hall of fame. 
http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/hof.html

Danny Hearn wrote:

  
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Subject:

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From: 
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Date: 
Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:11:19 -0400
  
  

To: 
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-Original Message-
From: Crossen, Angela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Thompson, Cynthia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Anderson,
Jackie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 14:33:02 -0500
Subject: FW: [Fwd: Rearrange the letters]
  
  
  
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Carney, Sammi 
  Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 1:18 PM
  To: Cole, Kenya; Busch, Mary E.; Crossen, Angela
  Subject: FW: [Fwd: Rearrange the letters]
  
  
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Espinoza, Victor 
  Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:10 PM
  To: Massey, Dandreis; Webb, Kent; Carney, Sammi; Johnson,
Tanya; Ramirez, Anne; Mendoza, Laura; Castro, M Carmen; Desantiago,
Norma
  Cc: Boyd, Jerome; Cabello, Richard; Buettner, Tommy
  Subject: FW: [Fwd: Rearrange the letters]
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
  


This
has got to be one of the cleverest
E-mails I've received in awhile.
Someone out there either has too much
spare time or is deadly at Scrabble.
(Wait till you see the last one)!


DORMITORY:
When you rearrange the letters:
DIRTY ROOM

PRESBYTERIAN:
When you rearrange the letters:
BEST IN PRAYER

ASTRONOMER:
When you rearrange the letters:
MOON STARER

DESPERATION: When
you rearrange the letters:
A ROPE ENDS IT

THE EYES:! 
When you rearrange the letters:
THEY SEE

GEORGE BUSH:
When you rearrange the letters:
HE BUGS GORE

THE MORSE CODE:
When you rearrange the letters:
HERE COME DOTS

SLOT MACHINES:
When you rearrange the letters:
CASH LOST IN ME

ANIMOSITY:
When you rearrange the letters:
IS NO AMITY

ELECTION RESULTS:
When you rearrange the letters:
LIES - LET'S RECOUNT

SNOOZE ALARMS:
When you rearrange the letters:
ALAS! NO MORE Z 'S

A DECIMAL POINT:
When you rearrange the letters:
IM
A DOT IN PLACE

THE EARTHQUAKES:
When you rearrange the letters:
THAT QUEER SHAKE

ELEVEN PLUS TWO:
When you rearrange the letters:
TWELVE PLUS ONE

Yep!
Someone with waaay
too much time on their hands! 

Bet your friends haven't seen this one!!!
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Re: [QUAD-L] Fwd: Rearrange the letters]

2006-06-10 Thread Eric Olson




In case you're bored   
http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/

Eric 


Danny Hearn wrote:

  
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From: 
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Date: 
Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:11:19 -0400
  
  

To: 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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-Original Message-
From: Crossen, Angela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Thompson, Cynthia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Anderson,
Jackie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 14:33:02 -0500
Subject: FW: [Fwd: Rearrange the letters]
  
  
  
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Carney, Sammi 
  Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 1:18 PM
  To: Cole, Kenya; Busch, Mary E.; Crossen, Angela
  Subject: FW: [Fwd: Rearrange the letters]
  
  
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Espinoza, Victor 
  Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:10 PM
  To: Massey, Dandreis; Webb, Kent; Carney, Sammi; Johnson,
Tanya; Ramirez, Anne; Mendoza, Laura; Castro, M Carmen; Desantiago,
Norma
  Cc: Boyd, Jerome; Cabello, Richard; Buettner, Tommy
  Subject: FW: [Fwd: Rearrange the letters]
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
  


This
has got to be one of the cleverest
E-mails I've received in awhile.
Someone out there either has too much
spare time or is deadly at Scrabble.
(Wait till you see the last one)!


DORMITORY:
When you rearrange the letters:
DIRTY ROOM

PRESBYTERIAN:
When you rearrange the letters:
BEST IN PRAYER

ASTRONOMER:
When you rearrange the letters:
MOON STARER

DESPERATION: When
you rearrange the letters:
A ROPE ENDS IT

THE EYES:! 
When you rearrange the letters:
THEY SEE

GEORGE BUSH:
When you rearrange the letters:
HE BUGS GORE

THE MORSE CODE:
When you rearrange the letters:
HERE COME DOTS

SLOT MACHINES:
When you rearrange the letters:
CASH LOST IN ME

ANIMOSITY:
When you rearrange the letters:
IS NO AMITY

ELECTION RESULTS:
When you rearrange the letters:
LIES - LET'S RECOUNT

SNOOZE ALARMS:
When you rearrange the letters:
ALAS! NO MORE Z 'S

A DECIMAL POINT:
When you rearrange the letters:
IM
A DOT IN PLACE

THE EARTHQUAKES:
When you rearrange the letters:
THAT QUEER SHAKE

ELEVEN PLUS TWO:
When you rearrange the letters:
TWELVE PLUS ONE

Yep!
Someone with waaay
too much time on their hands! 

Bet your friends haven't seen this one!!!
DON'T FORGET TO SHARE THIS



  
  
   
  

  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [QUAD-L] Damage and loss by malfunction of electric wheelchair

2006-06-10 Thread Eric Olson




Unfortunately, it looks like it's time to take legal action.  I
think you should sue both the airline and permobile.  Making them blame
each other in court.  Good luck.  

Eric 

Kim, Jong Bae wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Dear Quad_List
Members
   
  I have suffered
terrible agonies since I
used my new purchased Permobil C500 electric wheelchair around Feb. 10th.
  This wheelchair
has special seat functions
of standing, reclining, and elevating and its price is over $40,000.
   
  Please
read this email
string from the bottom email. 
   
  At February, it
was out of order three
times at the same electric connection after I arrived at Seoul, Korea.
  
  The Permobil
exchanged the electric wire
before my trip to San Diego.
But the seat did come down from the standing position at the hotel
lobby of San Diego and the rear cast
wheel was broken at Pittsburgh.
  I suffered lots
of difficulties from new
wheelchair’s malfunctions. 
   
  But the Permobil
always insists that they
have no responsibility on these problems and the airline must be
responsible.
  I don’t think so.
The problems can be from
the wheelchair’s deficiency. The Permobil wheelchair is not perfect. 
Their product also might have deficiencies. They didn’t investigate how
the
airline manipulated it. 
The airline also answered that they manipulated it very carefully and
did not
damaged any parts of wheelchair. 
I cannot understand how they insist that they are not responsible for
the
malfunction and only the airline is without any evidence. 
At Korea,
the same electric problem happened three times. 
And Permobil replaced the electric wire before my trip to San Diego. 
If they can be totally confident with their product, why did they
change it? 
   
  I can not use it
for my air travel any
more.
Air travel is one of my important activities. But my new C500 is not
eligible
for air travel because I had severe problems every time I air traveled.
  
But Permobil did not say to me that it is not eligible for air travel
when they
sell it to me. 
I have the consumer’s right to return it if it is not working for my
purpose of
purchasing it. 
  And I have the
consumer’s right to ask the
compensation for my spiritual damage and business loss from their
product’s
deficiency.
  But they don’t
want to take any
responsibility. They don’t want to reimburse my repair fee at Korea
nor compensate my damage and
loss. Moreover, they don’t even allow the return.
  
I spoiled my trip and business by the malfunction of 1 month old brand
new very
expensive wheelchair.
  Why do I have to
endure all these agonies
even if they are not from my mistake but from the wheelchair’s
malfunction?
  Because I am a
quadriplegic guy, do I have
to accept all these problems as my fate?
   
  Because I was
paralyzed below my chest with
C5 spinal chord injury, I need an electric wheelchair with high
functional
options and this kind of electric wheelchair is considered as a part of
my
body.
  When this
wheelchair is out of order, I
cannot move at all and do anything until it is fixed because that kind
of
wheelchair is a customer fitting wheelchair and I cannot use other
regular
electric wheelchair. If this wheelchair stops on the street, there is
no way to
transfer to other mobility device and I should be stuck in the hell. Do
we have
to accept all these hell pains as my fate because I have a disabled
body? 
   
  Please read my
arguments against this
wheelchair company, Permobil, to understand my miserable sufferings.
   
  I am so angry
because they want to evade
their responsibility by insisting the airline company is responsible
without
any evidence of airline’s wrong manipulation.
  For the people
with disabilities, the
assistive technology is so important factor for them to live their
quality
life. However, the wheelchair company is not responsible as much on
their
product’s liability even if they sold a very expensive mobility device
as the
automobile company who sells less expensive cars. My new purchased
Permobil
C500 electric wheelchair costs as much as a luxury car such as Benz and
Lexus.
But they don’t take responsibility on their product’s deficiency for
their
consumers with disabilities as Benz and Lexus do for their customer.
People
with disabilities have also the same right of consumer protection for
their
mobility devices as car customers have the strong consumer protection
right for
the automobile. Therefore I think the wheelchair company’s lack of
sense of
responsibility is a kind of discrimination again people with
disabilities. If
their customer was not disabled, they probably could not have been so.
   
  It is why I want
to discuss with
quadriplegic peers in this discussion group.
   
  Please help
me to advise how to fight
against them. Thanks.
   
  Very truly
yours,
   
  Jongbae Kim
  University
of Pittsburgh
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Dept of
Rehabilitation Science and Technology
School of Health and Rehabilitation Science
2310 Jane Stre

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here

2006-06-10 Thread Oconnelldb






I think a bottle of valium and a fifth of some good hooch ought to do 
it.
that's my plan when the time is right.
Dave
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/10/2006 3:24:44 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/08/06 
     at 04:04 PM, "Bill_J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  said:>I had many thoughts about suicide but never found 
  THE way that would be>sure to work.I've never figured out a 
  way, period, though I'd like to have one just 
  incase.Alan-- 
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Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here

2006-06-10 Thread alanh77
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/08/06 
   at 04:04 PM, "Bill_J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:




>I had many thoughts about suicide but never found THE way that would be
>sure to work.

I've never figured out a way, period, though I'd like to have one just in
case.

Alan

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Re: [QUAD-L] fractured femur

2006-06-10 Thread David K. Kelmer
Hi River,     I'm really sorry to hear about your latest escapade with your dog.  Take care and get better.  I'm sending you some positive energy to help.  Stay strong.     With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USARiver Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Well, I was kinda embarassed to mention it since it was only 12 wks ago that I broke my tibia on the left side.  Both accidents were due to my German shepard pup (86 lbs 1 yr old) pulling me out of the chair.  Did I learn my lesson?  yes, I wear my seatbelt ALL OF THE TIME NOW.  BTW,
 he's in SD training too.   no mention of the bone growth stimulator yet.  Also, the FX was a tiny bit displaced and about 1/8 distance between the bone in the FX, not sure why he never set it  it's 2 1/2 inches above my knee.  RiverOn May 31, 2006, at 9:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I must have missed that posting River.  What happened?  Have they consider using am electric stim to promote bone  growth, or not.  Keep us up, ok  W    
       In a message dated 5/31/2006 8:11:03 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  I'm in a brace that locks and I have it pretty snug on my thigh.  Ideally, it would be extended straight out all of the time.  That's just not practical for me, WC has no foot rest for this and I couldn't get around at all.  THere is some bone growth at the tip of the break after 6 wks.  Sloow it goes.   I'm not transferring into the van seat to drive, that's pretty hard on the leg.  No driving is a real PIA. River   
  

[QUAD-L] Suicide methods

2006-06-10 Thread RONALD L PRACHT
I always wanted to buy a brand new hugh performance car, get hand controlsthen drive around awhile. At the end of the day put a good song on loud, get the car doing 160mph and run it right into a concrete overpass. Kind of like the old movie Vanishing Point. No seat belt on of course, t-tops out and windows down. Always thought that would be a cool way to go.     Ron c7  

Re: [QUAD-L] New to this list.

2006-06-10 Thread David K. Kelmer
Hi Amy,     Welcome to the Quad-List.  There are some really great people here so I"M sure you'll find all that you're looking for!     With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USAAmy Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hello everyone. I was invited to join this list by a special guy in my life. I am not a quad but he is. He talks about this list all the time. How he has learned so much from you guys. The support you give each other and even the challenges and disagreements that you have. Hopefully I can look to you or your famly members for support too. And answers
 to all the questions I come up with. Looking forward to making new friends as well.   And SiI love you!      __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here

2006-06-10 Thread Tim Thompson
As an ex-stuntman, I know methods that are 99.99% reliable, but never had the desire to leave.
(and NO, I'll not give anybody tips on what those methods are)
My mind was made up the night after my accident to DEAL WITH IT.
"Barbara",
I'm a C5-6 who reached 10yrs last month. The first couple are the most difficult, and I won't lie by saying the rest are easy but it is worth it.
Quitters never know the exeleration of SUCCESS.
Graduating college with a 3.8 GPA had never occured to me prior to my injury 10 yrs ago.
Now, I'm working on that next challenge (and have many more planned).
Dying is easy, and "just" surviving isn't enough.
One needs to keep their spirit alive by pursuit of an interest.
Good luck finding what makes you feel ALIVE, as it'll be worth the effort.
Stunt 
On 6/8/06, Bill_J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I had many thoughts about suicide but never found THE way that would be sure to work.

 
Bill age 55C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLHe had a mind like a Post-It note; it held things but not real tight.




- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here
 

I always wondered if anyone else ever had the same thought when they were newly injured.
 
Dana
 
 In a message dated 6/8/2006 12:59:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
Must be a common thought, I too though about the semi harry carrie.  Lol.  
Silas 

- Original Message - 
From: RollinOn
 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here
 




That's funny you said that Dana, I had the same thought that I'd roll myself out in front of a semi.
 
 
Mark 
 
---Original Message---
 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 06/07/06 18:15:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here
 

 
Hi Barbara,
 
I'm glad you found this list, I did know did not know about it, when I was in new injury as I did not have the computer until 85 and not connected to the Internet until 2003 .  I'm not even sure when this was started, maybe someone can tell us. I could never thank Jim Lubin enough for starting this list.  I'm not married, but still looking, I have no children, just a 
4.1 pound female yourkie named Zoe.  There is still life after SCI. Feel free to talk to us about anything, as I'm sure someone will be able to answer questions you may have and share their experiences. . I remember feeling hopeless, after I returned from rehab, I wanted to drive in front of a semi, but I figured with my luck, I would not die, I would just be more disabled.

 
Thank you for joining our list
Dana ( C4-5, 31 years post, 52, KC suburb in Kansas)
 
Hello Barbara,  

Welcome to the quad list, this list of people are great!  Just ask anything and someone has been there, I know exactly what your going through.  Theres life after sci!  
Silas 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:29 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here

Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 & 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? 

  Barbara

 











 




Re: [QUAD-L] new back on new chair question

2006-06-10 Thread David K. Kelmer
Hi Bobbie,     When Medicare approved my chair they sent me a cc of the approval form and a letter they sent my provider.  The letter stated that while they had approved the chair they were not signing off on the approval for 6 months to be sure everything was done right.     With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi All,   Remember I told you guys about me getting a
 brand new Invacare Storm Series Gearless Brushless tilt/recline? Well, after using it a few weeks on and off [because I can't drive from it yet] I'm finding little things I need to change.     I had the seat moved forward one inch so there is more seat under my thighs. That was done no problem. And the arm rests needed to be padded more, no problem.    Now I'm telling them the back is to narrow and not padded enough. From day one I've been saying that my shoulder blades are digging into the posts for the back and their saying they will need a RX for modifications on the new chair.    My question: How much time do I have for them "set" my chair up for me to be comfortable? Will I have to pay after a certain time? Which is something I am definitely will to do.     Bobbie   
 

Re: [DisabledOfAmerica] Re: [QUAD-L] my flap surgery

2006-06-10 Thread David K. Kelmer
My second one was big enough to put a fist in it, and was down to the bone.     With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USAStacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:How big was your sores out of curiosity.     Stacy- Original Message -   From: Houston809   To: Stacy Harim ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quadlist   Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 5:12 PM  Subject: [DisabledOfAmerica] Re: [QUAD-L] my flap surgery  I’ll pray for UI’ve had 2 flaps done neither healed in a mnth seems like 3 – 6 mnths was on bed restBut things have changed a lot since then. But I’m thinking U should probably realistically look atleast at 3mnths healing timeOn
 5/28/06 2:53 PM, "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  OK, so I finally decided to go for the flap and it is on Wed.  I'm really nervous.  The sore is tiny but deep so he is cutting my leg to move the muscle to the sore which is almost to my butt.   So I have questions.  I didn't realize how much he's going to cut me.  He said he is going to cut a v then a straight line towards my knee which is a long cut.  I don’t have feeling but I do feel the pain from this sore and I have a bad reaction from morphine through IV so I'm scared of the pain and healing time.  The doc says about a month.  Have any of you gone through anything similar to this?  Also the sore is on my left side and in the past my bowel program only worked on that
 side.  I'm concerned about that as well with all of those staples in my leg.   Any advice or information I might be missing out on I would love it.  My bday is July 3 and I would love to be healed by then.  I am staying in the hospital one to two weeks then coming home.  My neighbor who helps me with the waiver is going to make sure I have meals.  She only works a minimal amount of time with me but between her and her mom, they are going to make sure I'm taken care of.  THANK GOD I DON’T HAVE TO GO TO A REHAB OR NURSING FACILITY.  Whenever I go for testing at the hospital the staff is really nice so I hope the nurses are as well. Oh and if you pray I would appreciate them, Stacy  SPONSORED LINKS Spinal cord injury lawyer   Spinal cord injury attorney   Spinal cord injury Spinal cord injury exercise   Spinal cord injury rehabilitation   Spinal cord injury rehab   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "DisabledOfAmerica" on the web.     To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]     Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.   

Re: [QUAD-L] MSNBC.com Article: Avoiding attacking suspected terrorist master...

2006-06-10 Thread RollinOn






Gotta give up for troops for taking out this man it is a big deal.
Now give us Bin Laden!
 
It doesn't matter if you like Bush or not anymore he's here for 2 1/2 more years and nothing will change it.
I don't like him but he isn't going no where.
Mark 
 
---Original Message---
 

From: Tim Thompson
Date: 06/10/06 13:40:34
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MSNBC.com Article: Avoiding attacking suspected terrorist master...
 
How many Americans know that FDR was the one who made the pact with
the Royal Saudi family? Every President since has honored it.
Forget the PROPAGANDA!
This new round was designed to undermine the victory of taking out
Zarquwi, nothing more. The so called "Progressive Liberal" media hates
President Bush so much, that they "feel" compelled to dig up old BS
just to try to take away from the taking out of a brutal butcher who
was doing everything he could to try to start a civil war.
We "Gave Peace a chance", and 9/11 was our reward.
WAKE UP!
Stunt
 
On 6/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> The 1st gulf war caused all the ensueing problems. Why did we go there? We
> were mercenairies for the Saudis and kuwaitis. We even made a profit on the
> 1st gulf war? Why wasn't that profit shared with the troops that fought?
> Because it was wrong! The Bush family has a strange way of picking friends
> and destroying friendships. Sure wish they had some love for all the
> American families they have harmed. Stop living in the past and start paying
> attention to the truth. Saudis and kuwaitis hate our guts. With careful
> foriegn policy, so does most of the world!
>
> john
>
> In a message dated 6/9/2006 12:23:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> An article from 2004? Stop living in the past. Do you want to dig up every
> article that talks about what if the Clinton administration had attacked
> Osama bin Laden when it had a chance then all the thousands of deaths that
> happened since could have been avoided. Sept 11, 2001 would not have
> happened if the Clinton administration had acted after the first WTC attack,
> the USS Cole attack, the US embassies attacked.
>
> At 06:14 PM 6/8/2006, River Wolfe wrote:
> Avoiding attacking suspected terrorist mastermind
> The Bush administration had several chances to attack and destroy a
> suspected terrorist operation with ties to al-Qaida but never pulled
> the trigger._ NBC's Jim Miklaszewski reports.
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/from/ET/
>
 









Re: [QUAD-L] MSNBC.com Article: Avoiding attacking suspected terrorist master...

2006-06-10 Thread Tim Thompson

How many Americans know that FDR was the one who made the pact with
the Royal Saudi family? Every President since has honored it.
Forget the PROPAGANDA!
This new round was designed to undermine the victory of taking out
Zarquwi, nothing more. The so called "Progressive Liberal" media hates
President Bush so much, that they "feel" compelled to dig up old BS
just to try to take away from the taking out of a brutal butcher who
was doing everything he could to try to start a civil war.
We "Gave Peace a chance", and 9/11 was our reward.
WAKE UP!
Stunt

On 6/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



The 1st gulf war caused all the ensueing problems. Why did we go there? We
were mercenairies for the Saudis and kuwaitis. We even made a profit on the
1st gulf war? Why wasn't that profit shared with the troops that fought?
Because it was wrong! The Bush family has a strange way of picking friends
and destroying friendships. Sure wish they had some love for all the
American families they have harmed. Stop living in the past and start paying
attention to the truth. Saudis and kuwaitis hate our guts. With careful
foriegn policy, so does most of the world!

john

In a message dated 6/9/2006 12:23:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
An article from 2004? Stop living in the past. Do you want to dig up every
article that talks about what if the Clinton administration had attacked
Osama bin Laden when it had a chance then all the thousands of deaths that
happened since could have been avoided. Sept 11, 2001 would not have
happened if the Clinton administration had acted after the first WTC attack,
the USS Cole attack, the US embassies attacked.

At 06:14 PM 6/8/2006, River Wolfe wrote:
Avoiding attacking suspected terrorist mastermind
The Bush administration had several chances to attack and destroy a
suspected terrorist operation with ties to al-Qaida but never pulled
the trigger._ NBC's Jim Miklaszewski reports.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/from/ET/