Re: [QUAD-L] this quad crap sucks
So sorry Bobbie, I hope you don't have to wait long, and until your next aid comes. Can you tilt back and have somebody pull you up straight, when they come back? That's when I tried to do, if it happens, it is so miserable. I hate it when my aide forgets to pull me up after getting me in the chair and doing my exercises. I just read your post again, and you have to wait till 730 or eight. it is so hard waiting on that person to come. I have this duct tape that hanging stabilized by cardboard that I devised hanging from a boom that I have over my desk, that I have my aide put pills on. I guess I need to put some pain pills on also. At least maybe some painkillers would relieve the pain. I usually have my senna on mind . Dana
Re: [QUAD-L] A very good book to read---about another Quad and Life.
In a message dated 7/11/2006 8:27:27 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All..I would just like to suggest a very good book to read, Its Author Is ART BERG and the book is called..THE IMPOSSIBLE JUST TAKES A LITTLE LONGER. Me and my wife are reading this book now together, we are about 1/3 of the way thru..I highly recommend this book, also it is written by a fellow c-5 quad, some of you may have read it, but it is an excellent book and brings up many great thoughts and is an inspiration. Art as some of you may know is a public inspirational speaker and motivator. Dan** Art Berg is one of my original heros. Another is Renee Bondi, LAST DANCE, BUT NOT THE LAST SONG. W
RE: [QUAD-L] I miss Jerry C
Title: Message Basically, a sore that got infected and the infection spread. Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: S. Dial [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:59 PMTo: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] I miss Jerry C What happen to him, Eric? I don't remember him posting here it makes me sad. StephanieSwamp Sista http://360.yahoo.com/curly_top35
Re: [QUAD-L] I miss Jerry C
What happen to him, Eric? I don't remember him posting here it makes me sad. StephanieSwamp Sista http://360.yahoo.com/curly_top35
Re: [QUAD-L] Comebacks_Re: Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh?
I tend to make small children cry. Adults usually behave like I might be contagious. I don't even like mirrors. john n a message dated 7/11/2006 7:08:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Children, in most cases, respond very favorably to my presence. I always offer a smile and perhaps a hi. I don't know if this is because they are eye level, naturally curious, or both. Adults, on the other hand, often avoid my presence if I am rolling by or near them at a public place. But, here is a question to you folks that I just can't figure out but, for some reason, need to understand. Because I am a borderline quad/para with some c 8 function with slight arm and hand impairment, I am eligible for an insurance covered power chair. I have a manual chair and am very strong and capable of using it, however I NEVER use it because I can do so much more with power. Simple example: I can carry a hot pot from the stove to the counter in 2 seconds, mop the floor, vacuum, etc. I go to a gym and use an ergometer on high resistance for about an hour for very good aerobic exercise. I also combine this with weights. Therefore, I do not need a manual chair for exercise. However, most people who I see who can use a manual chair do so. I also know that over time many chair users require rotator cuff surgery due to repetitive motion. Most people who are able to use a manual chair do, yet I do not and would not consider it. Am I missing out on something by not using a manual chair? If you had your choice, which would you use? Best, Brien On Jul 9, 2006, at 2:23 PM, Lori Michaelson wrote: I have to agree with John to a great extent. Just today I was telling my home health nurse that the stupidest question I have been asked [and really irked by] over the years is "How Do You Go on?" I feel like saying "What is the alternative or what do you suggest is the best alternative?" My nurse asked me if it were adults that actually asked that question and I said YEP! In my experience, children have asked the best questions and that is probably because they have not had many years of adult live experience that have dull their sensitivity toward others. Lori ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/9/2006 11:58:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh? that is by far, the dumbest question I've heard in ages. When asked a question that stupid I often reply with an answer equally as stupid. In this case, I wouldn't answer it. I'd run over their foot and while they cried I'd ask, "Did it hurt?" Before my injury I could have dope slapped them. john In a message dated 7/8/2006 5:12:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, On and off I participate in studies regarding my SCI. Often I'm asked something like "...how would you rate your quality of life since your SCI"? This question gets SO deep under my skin, I could scream. How do you all feel about your quality of life since your injury? Bobbie
[QUAD-L] A very good book to read---about another Quad and Life.
Hi All..I would just like to suggest a very good book to read, Its Author Is ART BERG and the book is called..THE IMPOSSIBLE JUST TAKES A LITTLE LONGER. Me and my wife are reading this book now together, we are about 1/3 of the way thru..I highly recommend this book, also it is written by a fellow c-5 quad, some of you may have read it, but it is an excellent book and brings up many great thoughts and is an inspiration. Art as some of you may know is a public inspirational speaker and motivator. Dan**
RE: [QUAD-L] I miss Jerry C
Title: Message The only thing I can find is here http://www.quadrugby.com/guestbook/guestbook.html?ArdSI=197efc0daf01e8ee7bb83587918614f0 then hit cont f ozzy guess when u're gone..u're gone Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Eric W Rudd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:51 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: RE: [QUAD-L] I miss Jerry C Help me out here guys.ozzy fanalways quick to argue but always quick to listen..probably have a pix w ozzy Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:48 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] I miss Jerry C Tell me about him. I don't remember who you're talking about.Dana
Re: [QUAD-L] question
If they get federal funds to transport handicapped then they better get off theiir lame butts. Call your congressman. Cincinnati tried givin me that crap. Now they are happy when I don't write letters about their lousey service and 2nd class treatment. The complaints get them fined and lets face it,, it's always about money. john In a message dated 7/11/2006 3:53:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Call and talk to the transporatation manager of your city or county, whichever runs the bus/transpotation for handicapped. Explain to them the situation. You have a right to use it. Bill age 55C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLProcrastinate now, don't put it off. - Original Message - From: rawilson7 To: Quad-L Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:02 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] question I would like to find out how others handle some situations. I have been turned down by community transportation I applied because my lift in my Van needs repair and it's not safe to use. Community transport denied me saying I had access to a Van. I've explained over and over the lift is in need of repair and I'm on a limited income and cannot afford the repairs. Their position is that it's not their problem and I must use private transport. I've called one private company to arrange a trip to the doctor and back and was told the trip would cost me $740. For a 16 mile trip. I haven't tried private ambulance yet that's next.I decided to use my own transportation till it leaves me stranded. My question is does anyone have any ideas about how one could get themselves home when personal transportation breaks down?AustinC4-5boat accident 1998
RE: [QUAD-L] I miss Jerry C
Title: Message Help me out here guys.ozzy fanalways quick to argue but always quick to listen..probably have a pix w ozzy Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:48 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] I miss Jerry C Tell me about him. I don't remember who you're talking about.Dana
Re: [QUAD-L] I miss Jerry C
Tell me about him. I don't remember who you're talking about.Dana
[QUAD-L] I miss Jerry C
Title: Message RIP Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[QUAD-L]
Title: Message How many times can you put me down'Till in your heart you realizeIf you chose to criticise you choose your enemiesEverything that I say and doIn your eyes is always wrongTell me where do I belong in a sick societyYour're no different to me, yeahYour're no different, no different to meLook at yourself instead o' looking at meWith accusation in your eyesDo you want me crucified for my profanityConcealing your crimes behind a grandeur of liesTell me where do I beginIf you think you're without sin be the first to cast the stoneYour're no different to me, yeahYour're no different, no different to meYour're no different to me, yeahYour're no different, no different to meCan't you see, can't you seeYour're no different to meWon't you see, won't you seeYou're no different to meLiving my life in a way that I chooseYou say I should apologizeIs that envy in your eyes reflecting jealousyTell me the truth and I'll admit to my guiltIf you'll try and understandIs that blood that's on your hand from your democrocyYour're no different to me, yeahYour're no different, no different to meYour're no different to me, yeahYour're no different, no different to me Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck
I hit a hole in my backyard and was thrown forward. My head was between my knees, I couldn't breathe, and it was in the 90's. I could neither yell nor get up. After about 15 min of gasping and burning, I was rescued by my wife who saw me out the window. Another 5 min and I would have been a goner. Now I always wear a chest strap when I'm outside. From: ~LittleQuad~ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:42:24 -0700 (PDT) glad you are free and yes thank goodness for cell phones Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I got stuck..! I was always scared to go far from my house, incase my chair broke or something. But now that I got my cell phone and Bluetooth, Im exploring my whole neighborhood. I found an unknown path that wound its way around these new housing developments. Beautifully landscaped, next to a golf course, about ¾ of mile long. But then it just ended. There was a dirt/gravel path that went left. Heading towards a main street. It had about an inch lip and went down hill. I knew going down would be fine, but if the trail did not go through, could I get back over it. I didnt try. Next day I tried finding the path from the other side. I did. After going about 75 feet down, the dirt path gave way and I slide sideways into a mud hole. I didnt move far, just enough to sink about 6 inches. No way of driving out. I waited a bit, called out a bit. Knowing I was too stuck to call for my attendant to get me out, I broke down and called 911 (Im going to add just the non emergency police number now). Just as I was giving directions, a truck with landscapers shows up and gets me out. I guess going down a soft dirt paths with mud on the edges, isnt a real smart thing to do. I keep thinking, What if no phone, what if no landscapers Thats the 2nd time I had to call for help. First was when I was driving down a sidewalk, hit a piece of gravel, that made my hand come off the control and my chair stopped immediately. My momentum made me fall forward No chest strap. I was to far forward to reach the control or recline switch. I had to call home for help. Thanks for cell phones Greg
[QUAD-L] Rock n Roll Rebel
Title: Message They couldn't see what I thoughtWould be so obviousThey hid behind the laws they made for all of usThe ministry of truth that deals with pretenseThe ministry of peace that sits on defenseI'm washing my hands of whatThey're trying to doIt's for me, it's for me,It's for you, it's for youI'm just a rock 'n roll rebelI'll tell you no liesThey say I worship the devilThey must be stupid or blindI'm just a rock 'n roll rebelThey live a life of fear and insecurityAnd all you do is pray for their prosperityThe ministry of fear that won't let you liveThe ministry of grace that doesn't forgiveDo what you will to try andMake me conformI'll make you wish thatYou had never been bornCause I'm a rock 'n roll rebelI'll do what I pleaseYes I'm a rock 'n roll rebelAnd I'm as free as the breezeI'm just a rock 'n roll rebelThey'll try playin' with your heartThey know it rules your headIf they could read between the linesYou know they'd see the real dayGod only knows why theyCouldn't see the obviousIs it because they manifest the incubusThe ministry of war that got caught in the draftThe ministry of joy that still hasn't laughedWhen it's all boiled downAnd the day's at an endI'll give you no bullshitAnd I'll never pretendCause I'm a rock 'n roll rebelI'll tell you no liesThey say I worship the devilWhy don't they open their eyesI'm just a rock 'n roll rebelA rock 'n roll rebelI'm just a rock 'n roll rebel Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [QUAD-L] this quad crap sucks
This probably won't help but I took a dump in my chair shortly after my ade left. Nothin big, just smelly. The pain suks a lot more,, I can almost enjoy this. I hate days when they forget to leave enough pain meds out where I can get to them. Try to picture an ugly boney guy sittingf in the park, throwin stale bread at the birds untill strange crotch hounds start chasing him back to his lil house to stink alone. john I do hope you can get rearainged in ur chair In a message dated 7/11/2006 2:19:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i can't stop crying today i got put in this fu^king chair not straight and my back hurts BAD i'll have to stay like this till 7:30 8:00 i can't possibly explain this discomfort to anybody else but you guys i'm just listening to music and crying
FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Spiders..............
Damn those eight-legged buggers! Great poem. From: River Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Eric W Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Spiders.. Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:20:32 -0400 wonderful Eric, did you write that? I'm impressed ;-) River On Jul 11, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Eric W Rudd wrote: Spiders in the night Creeping round the walls Now you'll feel him crawling over you Creepy crawly things Filling up your bed Soon you'll feel him crawling through your Brain You think he's there Beware his bite But when you look The spider's not in sight Spiders reappear Taking people's names Everything is taken down in sane There's no way out And there's no key But here's a clue The spider's really me You're written in his book The spiders won't forget You won't forget the spiders in the night The end is growing nigh Eensy weensy friends The spider's disappearing from the night You think he's gone You think he's dead There's no escape The spider's in your head Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [QUAD-L] Muslim reaction to Russian Terrorist killed
OK, what the heck is going on in this video? Tis a bit wacky. From: "Tim Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: quad Subject: [QUAD-L] Muslim reaction to Russian Terrorist killed Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:23:20 -0500 http://www.glumbert.com/media/rave.html Turn up the sound. I had 2 watch it 3x Stunt
RE: [QUAD-L] Spiders..............
Title: Message Oh no..That's Ozzy! Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: River Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:21 PMTo: Eric W RuddCc: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Spiders..wonderful Eric, did you write that? I'm impressed ;-) River On Jul 11, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Eric W Rudd wrote: Spiders in the nightCreeping round the wallsNow you'll feel him crawling over youCreepy crawly thingsFilling up your bedSoon you'll feel him crawling through yourBrainYou think he's thereBeware his biteBut when you lookThe spider's not in sightSpiders reappearTaking people's namesEverything is taken down in saneThere's no way outAnd there's no keyBut here's a clueThe spider's really meYou're written in his bookThe spiders won't forgetYou won't forget the spiders in the nightThe end is growing nighEensy weensy friendsThe spider's disappearing from the nightYou think he's goneYou think he's deadThere's no escapeThe spider's in your head Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [QUAD-L] Spiders..............
wonderful Eric, did you write that?I'm impressed ;-)RiverOn Jul 11, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Eric W Rudd wrote: Spiders in the nightCreeping round the wallsNow you'll feel him crawling over youCreepy crawly thingsFilling up your bedSoon you'll feel him crawling through yourBrainYou think he's thereBeware his biteBut when you lookThe spider's not in sightSpiders reappearTaking people's namesEverything is taken down in saneThere's no way outAnd there's no keyBut here's a clueThe spider's really meYou're written in his bookThe spiders won't forgetYou won't forget the spiders in the nightThe end is growing nighEensy weensy friendsThe spider's disappearing from the nightYou think he's goneYou think he's deadThere's no escapeThe spider's in your head Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [QUAD-L] What's out your back door & down the street?
say hello to Rocky and Bullwinkle for me,, oohh my bad, that's frostbite falls..nm. john p.s. damn brain In a message dated 7/11/2006 2:14:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bobbie, We are on the north-side of Wichita Falls, and are mostly a bedroom community for active and retired military. Out my front window there is pasture and a few trees between me and I-44 about a mile west. Most of the homes are north of me so the traffic is light here. Stay strong. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA
[QUAD-L] Spiders..............
Title: Message Spiders in the nightCreeping round the wallsNow you'll feel him crawling over youCreepy crawly thingsFilling up your bedSoon you'll feel him crawling through yourBrainYou think he's thereBeware his biteBut when you lookThe spider's not in sightSpiders reappearTaking people's namesEverything is taken down in saneThere's no way outAnd there's no keyBut here's a clueThe spider's really meYou're written in his bookThe spiders won't forgetYou won't forget the spiders in the nightThe end is growing nighEensy weensy friendsThe spider's disappearing from the nightYou think he's goneYou think he's deadThere's no escapeThe spider's in your head Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[QUAD-L] Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Message Diary of a madman Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [QUAD-L] FEELING?
I have no feeling from the chest down, don't even know where my body is unless I look at it. Used to be able to walk by looking where my feet were. awfully tiring on the poor damaged brain tho. Kept running into walls. I do have muscle spasms but only feel them at the point where muscle attaches to bone. KK MS since 1960, last major episode paralyzed from C3 down.
Re: [QUAD-L] What's out your back door & down the street?
I'm lucky - we have woods and a stream behind us (County property.) The area can't be developed, because it's a flood control area. Only problem is too many deer. Alan -- --- Posted by alanh77[at]comcast.net using MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 Proudly using eComstation 1.21 (OEM OS/2) BBS - The Nerve Center Telnet FidoNet 261/1000 tncbbs.no-ip.com ---
Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 07/11/06 at 04:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >I fell once in Detroit in the winter and got stuck in snow once. Fell >over backwards here in Phoenix one July. Thank goodness for good >Samaritans. I prefer staying in public places - and no dirt paths. Back when I was still able to cruise around my neighborhood and general vicinity every nice day, I was out of the neigborhood when I went over a bump in the sidewalk a little too fast. My feet slid off the footrests, and my butt slid forward (not off the chair.) I tilted the chair back so I wouldn't slide out the rest of the way, and slowly made my way home. Alan -- --- Posted by alanh77[at]comcast.net using MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 Proudly using eComstation 1.21 (OEM OS/2) BBS - The Nerve Center Telnet FidoNet 261/1000 tncbbs.no-ip.com ---
Re: [QUAD-L] Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh?
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 07/07/06 at 06:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >On and off I participate in studies regarding my SCI. Often I'm asked > something like "...how would you rate your quality of life since your >SCI"? This question gets SO deep under my skin, I could scream. > How do you all feel about your quality of life since your injury? Thanks to the blasted central pain syndrome, I have no quality of life. Torture 24/7 is not quality. Alan -- --- Posted by alanh77[at]comcast.net using MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 Proudly using eComstation 1.21 (OEM OS/2) BBS - The Nerve Center Telnet FidoNet 261/1000 tncbbs.no-ip.com ---
[QUAD-L] All aboard..........Haaaa!..Haaa!....Haaaaaaaaa!
Title: Message Man..Ozzy through my Bose, cranked.can't beat it! Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [QUAD-L] FEELING?
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 07/09/06 at 01:23 PM, "Paul Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Has any quadespecially complete...have feeling in their legs? Any >walking? What level? >I'm c5/6 completeno feeling. Consider yourself lucky. I have severe pain in my legs, like everywhere else below my level of injury (C-5 complete.) I had no feeling anywhere below the level for the first month after my injury 25 years ago, and I wish things had stayed that way. Alan -- --- Posted by alanh77[at]comcast.net using MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 Proudly using eComstation 1.21 (OEM OS/2) BBS - The Nerve Center Telnet FidoNet 261/1000 tncbbs.no-ip.com ---
[QUAD-L] Hands free cell phone
http://www.broadenedhorizons.com/italk.htm
[QUAD-L] QuadList.com Live Again
I know I've been gone for a while, but I'm back and I revamped the www.QuadList.com website. I saw that the few articles I'd put out there before were read by quite a few people. I appreciate the comments and submissions and apologize for being unresponsive. The current site plans for '06 to '07 include: MD Response - I've spoken with several doctors in various areas concerning our health issues and they would all enjoy offering their input and advice. (Neurology, Urology, General Medicine, Psychology, Fertility, etc.) Discount Purchases - The responses are good so far for providing a discount on goods purchased by site members. (Travel, Supplies and Equipment) Legal Advice - Several lawyers from different specialties in law have approached me about various issues I face on a daily basis. I mentioned this group and they said that they'd really like to help if possible. (ADA, Personal Injury, Settlement, etc) Attendant Response - I'm not sure how this section is going to pan out right now, but the idea is to gather "up-to-date" information on our attendant needs combined with the attendant availability. I want to include private and state-paid possibilities. I've briefly spoken with about a dozen Home Health agencies and they've given some good input. Let me hear from you. (AttendantMatch.com would be ideal *dreaming*) My goal with Quadlist.com is not to replace this newsgroup, but to provide more avenues to the quality advice and support that this group provides. I hope you'll visit and participate. I know there are others out there that need our support. Keep up the good fight! Thanks, Aaron Mann, C4-5 It's the daily struggles that lead to a lifetime of achievement.
Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck
When I posted that post about the female quadriplegic found dead in Florida because she apparently got stuck in the sand and in a park in the middle of the day in summer ... I thought that was total insanity to head out by herself like that for so many reasons. Primarily the god-awful heat! Since there was absolutely no one around in the park or nearby for a long time [long enough for her to end up dead] ... it was obviously too hot for even able-bodied folks to be out in such miserable heat in the middle of the day! Anyway, like I said back then in my post ... I am so fortunate to have dozens and dozens and dozens of streets here in North Tucson whereby it is very quiet and serene yet I am always near houses and streets that will have only a few cars passing by ... usually not more than five or 10 minutes go by before I see someone. However, Greg, I had a similar experience like you described as your second problem. It happened 4 1/2 years ago in my own subdivision! I was strolling along at a pretty good clip and I have found since then that might share does not like that very much and will automatically stop! I was also thrown forward because of the momentum but I was able to sit back up. My problem was that I was unable to push the on/off button to turn my chair back on. Any other time, a car would be entry or leaving our subdivision of about 40 houses back then. But over 15 minutes went by and not a single car or person was in sight! I couldn't believe it. Fortunately, it was not warm or too cold but I just sat there wondering what to do. I was actually sitting next to someone's house and, finally, the woman inside that house happened to be by her kitchen window and saw me sitting out there. She opened the window and asked if I was okay. I told her my problem and she came and pushed the button for me. So see? Sometimes the worst can happen under almost the best of circumstances! The only slightly scary thing that has happened to me during one of my strolls in my area here [in a bigger subdivision and neighborhood area than where we lived for years ago] ... was when I went down the street to a very quaint park .7 miles from my home. As always, I had my dog with me and we were walking around the paved walkways inside the park as well as the grassy area. The park was deserted except for only one mother and her two little children that were playing on the play equipment. On my way out of the park I heard the mother tell her little boy "oh look--there is a baby havalena!" For those of you who do not know what that is ... they are wild pigs found in the desert. They are nocturnal animals so they are rarely seen during the day. I had never seen one so I turned around to look. The little dark brown pig was sniffing a cactus shrub area that my dog had just been sniffing at only moments before!!! Havalenas can take apart a dog in a matter of minutes. Unlike the mother and her children ... I obviously could not climb up the ladder on the playground equipment like they could if necessary. For the baby pig to be alone ... is very rare. I took a quick look and then began to zoom out of there ASAP. As always, I told my husband where I was headed and he was probably going to drive my van over to pick me up at the park. He was just driving the van down the entrance road to the park as I was headed out. He stopped the van and I got in. We then drove the short distance to the parking lot to see if we could see the baby pig. My husband is very familiar with the southwest because that is where he grew up. I told him what happened and he said that it was a good thing that I began leaving the park because baby pigs are never or rarely alone and that meant that the mama and/or papa was not far behind. The park is surrounded by desert so that is obviously where they were. Again, they are hardly ever seen during the daytime but I was very lucky not to still be in the middle of the park OR out in the grass where my dog and I were only minutes before! Even if I took a cell phone with me ... I would still tell someone the approximate area where I was going to be because there are so many things that can happen even with a cell phone. Like being in an area where there is no signal. Or dropping the phone, etc. etc. Etc.. The female quadriplegic's fate in Florida has been closed by the medical examiner's decision but I still do not agree with what her final findings were so there is nothing like double or triple safety measures to take! Lori ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/11/2006 2:06:10 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck I fell once in Detroit in the winter and got stuck in snow once. Fell over backwards here in Phoenix one July. Thank goodness for good Samaritans. I prefer staying in public places - and no dirt paths. Dave In a message dated 7/11/2006 11:53:55 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PR
Re: [QUAD-L] question
Austin, I've never heard of such! It's public transportation, right? What does it matter if you have access to a van or not? Our public transit can't refuse a seat to an able-bodied person if that person has a private vehicle. This sounds like hogwash to me. Maybe you should contact the head of the Department of Transportation in your state. Good luck! StephanieSwamp Sista http://360.yahoo.com/curly_top35
Re: [QUAD-L] this quad crap sucks
Bobbie, I'm just now checking my e-mail. Were you able to get ahold of anyone? Gosh, I feel for you, hon, I've been in that predicament several times myself. Was it an agency person? I'd try Stunt's? suggestion call and complain and ask for immediate help. StephanieSwamp Sista http://360.yahoo.com/curly_top35
[QUAD-L] Wal-Mart
My husband feels the same way, Mark. He says that Sam would be spinning in his grave if he were able to see how much Wal-Mart has gone downhill. Lori ---Original Message--- From: RollinOn Date: 7/11/2006 1:53:14 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com; Greg Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] What's out your back door & down the street? I can't stand WalMart. When Sam Walton was alive everything in WalMart was made in America and I loved it and then the spoiled rotten communist children took over and ruined his lifes work. At one time they were sued for advertising Chinese made products as American made.
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I was teasing about the irking part. I'm really sorry about your marriage ending, I know how difficult it is to lose not only your long-term partner but your main care-giver. It's tough to realize but sometimes our significant others just burn out especially if they've had the sole brunt of our care for a long time. I'm not saying that's why your relationship is breaking up but it certainly contributed to mine. Is there any way y'all could get some counseling? StephanieSwamp Sista http://360.yahoo.com/curly_top35
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http://www.glumbert.com/media/rave.html Turn up the sound. I had 2 watch it 3x Stunt
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Often your insurance will cover and setup transportation if you call them. Our bus will pick you up if you schedule it first. G. rawilson7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would like to find out how others handle some situations. I have been turned down by community transportation I applied because my lift in my Van needs repair and it's not safe to use. Community transport denied me saying I had access to a Van. I've explained over and over the lift is in need of repair and I'm on a limited income and cannot afford the repairs. Their position is that it's not their problem and I must use private transport. I've called one private company to arrange a trip to the doctor and back and was told the trip would cost me $740. For a 16 mile trip. I haven't tried private ambulance yet that's next.
Re: [QUAD-L] Comebacks_Re: Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh?
I know this isn't the same thing, but I once had a girl ask me if my heart was still beating. Granted, at the time I was first injured, I had a dozen tubes and wires connected to me. Eric Lori Michaelson wrote: I have to agree with John to a great extent. Just today I was telling my home health nurse that the stupidest question I have been asked [and really irked by] over the years is "How Do You Go on?" I feel like saying "What is the alternative or what do you suggest is the best alternative?" My nurse asked me if it were adults that actually asked that question and I said YEP! In my experience, children have asked the best questions and that is probably because they have not had many years of adult live experience that have dull their sensitivity toward others. Lori ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/9/2006 11:58:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh? that is by far, the dumbest question I've heard in ages. When asked a question that stupid I often reply with an answer equally as stupid. In this case, I wouldn't answer it. I'd run over their foot and while they cried I'd ask, "Did it hurt?" Before my injury I could have dope slapped them. john In a message dated 7/8/2006 5:12:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, On and off I participate in studies regarding my SCI. Often I'm asked something like "...how would you rate your quality of life since your SCI"? This question gets SO deep under my skin, I could scream. How do you all feel about your quality of life since your injury? Bobbie
Re: [QUAD-L] this quad crap sucks
Hi Tim, I just got on the CBA Program here in Texas, and now my PCA has to call my Agency every morning when she gets here. She had been my PCA for over two years and never had to call in when she got here so I asked them about it. They said that by law they now have to have someone here within two hours of my start time or the State will fine them, and if they get too many fines they will lose the CBA Program. Works for me! Every State should have this in place NOW! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Did that person work for an agency?Call and demand they send somebody to help NOW and that you don't wantthe other aid again.StuntOn 7/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>> i can't stop crying today i got put in this fu^king chair not straight and> my back hurts BAD i'll have to stay like this till 7:30 8:00 i can't> possibly explain this discomfort to anybody else but you guys> i'm just listening to music and crying
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I fell once in Detroit in the winter and got stuck in snow once. Fell over backwards here in Phoenix one July. Thank goodness for good Samaritans. I prefer staying in public places - and no dirt paths. Dave In a message dated 7/11/2006 11:53:55 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got stuck..! I was always scared to go far from my house, incase my chair broke or something. But now that I got my cell phone and Bluetooth, I’m exploring my whole neighborhood. I found an unknown path that wound its way around these new housing developments. Beautifully landscaped, next to a golf course, about ¾ of mile long. But then it just ended. There was a dirt/gravel path that went left. Heading towards a main street. It had about an inch lip and went down hill. I knew going down would be fine, but if the trail did not go through, could I get back over it. I didn’t try. Next day I tried finding the path from the other side. I did. After going about 75 feet down, the dirt path gave way and I slide sideways into a mud hole. I didn’t move far, just enough to sink about 6 inches. No way of driving out. I waited a bit, called out a bit. Knowing I was too stuck to call for my attendant to get me out, I broke down and called 911 (I’m going to add just the non emergency police number now). Just as I was giving directions, a truck with landscapers shows up and gets me out. I guess going down a soft dirt paths with mud on the edges, isn’t a real smart thing to do. I keep thinking, What if no phone, what if no landscapers… That’s the 2nd time I had to call for help. First was when I was driving down a sidewalk, hit a piece of gravel, that made my hand come off the control and my chair stopped immediately. My momentum made me fall forward… No chest strap. I was to far forward to reach the control or recline switch. I had to call home for help. Thanks for cell phones… Greg Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967
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i call my dad to get him to fix motor repairs if its the lift, i call the people who installed it for repairs...rawilson7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would like to find out how others handle some situations. I have been turned down by community transportation I applied because my lift in my Van needs repair and it's not safe to use. Community transport denied me saying I had access to a Van. I've explained over and over the lift is in need of repair and I'm on a limited income and cannot afford the repairs. Their position is that it's not their problem and I must use private transport. I've called one private company to arrange a trip to the doctor and back and was told the trip would cost me $740. For a 16 mile trip. I haven't tried private ambulance yet that's next.I decided to use my own transportation till it leaves me stranded. My question is does anyone have any ideas about how one could get themselves home when personal transportation breaks down?AustinC4-5boat accident 1998
RE: [QUAD-L] What's out your back door & down the street?
I can't stand WalMart. When Sam Walton was alive everything in WalMart was made in America and I loved it and then the spoiled rotten communist children took over and ruined his lifes work. At one time they were sued for advertising Chinese made products as American made. If people knew the real story in China about how child labor working for less than .30 an hour were making their products maybe they'd give a shit but you can bet your a.. that WalMart and Communist China won't let those pictures out but if you really want to know just google it. How can we as Americans financially support the very thing we hate the most and are at war with right now fighting for Democracy supposedly. Just blows my mind. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Greg Date: 07/11/06 13:11:42 To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] What's out your back door & down the street? Many in our community have been fighting to keep MalMart out. They already put 3 in a 3 mile area. They call it the MalMart Triangle. At least the city made them redesign the outside. The Super MalMarts are so big. They made them make it look like it was 3 different buildings. Its a nice looking stripmall, but there are just too many of them. The article I read says home prices drop 10% and crime goes up by 15% once a WalMrt goes in. Plus now, they are just un American. I saw one story about one of the last American made flat screen tv monitor makers was told by WalMart, if he did not relocate his companies production lines to China, to lower the cost a few percents, they would no longer carry that product Greg what is it with walmart? Why can't they build those damn places in the slums. At least put them next to millionair estates. john
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glad you are free and yes thank goodness for cell phonesGreg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I got stuck..! I was always scared to go far from my house, incase my chair broke or something. But now that I got my cell phone and Bluetooth, Im exploring my whole neighborhood. I found an unknown path that wound its way around these new housing developments. Beautifully landscaped, next to a golf course, about ¾ of mile long. But then it just ended. There was a dirt/gravel path that went left. Heading towards a main street. It had about an inch lip and went down hill. I knew going down would be fine, but if the trail did not go through, could I get back over it. I didnt try. Next day I tried finding the path from the other side. I did. After going about 75 feet down, the dirt path gave way and I slide sideways into a mud hole. I didnt move far, just enough to sink about 6 inches. No way of driving out. I waited a bit, called out a bit. Knowing I was too stuck to call for my attendant to get me out, I broke down and called 911 (Im going to add just the non emergency police number now). Just as I was giving directions, a truck with landscapers shows up and gets me out. I guess going down a soft dirt paths with mud on the edges, isnt a real smart thing to do. I keep thinking, What if no phone, what if no landscapers Thats the 2nd time I had to call for help. First was when I was driving down a sidewalk, hit a piece of gravel, that made my hand come off the control and my chair stopped immediately. My momentum made me fall forward No chest strap. I was to far forward to reach the control or recline switch. I had to call home for help. Thanks for cell phones Greg
Re: [QUAD-L] Comebacks_Re: Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh?
Hi Bill, I agree with you. Back in '76 when I got my first chair the PTs all said pushing would build-up my upper-body strength. It just wore out my shoulders. I went to power in '89 when the right leg was dis-articulated, and I love it. Now if my shoulders last a little longer I'll be happy! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USABill_J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Given my choice I'd use a power chair. I wish I had started using one sooner so my right shoulder didn't require surgery. I can do much more in a power chair because the manual sucks the strength out of me leaving me less likely to go out and enjoy life. Bill age 55C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLProcrastinate now, don't put it off.- Original Message - From: Brien To: Lori Michaelson Cc: Quad Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Comebacks_Re: Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh? Children, in most cases, respond very favorably to my presence. I always offer a smile and perhaps a hi. I don't know if this is because they are eye level, naturally curious, or both. Adults, on the other hand, often avoid my presence if I am rolling by or near them at a public place. But, here is a question to you folks that I just can't figure out but, for some reason, need to understand. Because I am a borderline quad/para with some c 8 function with slight arm and hand impairment, I am eligible for an insurance covered power chair. I have a manual chair and am very strong and capable of using it, however I NEVER use it because I can do so much more with power. Simple example: I can carry a hot pot from the stove to the counter in 2 seconds, mop the floor, vacuum, etc. I go to a gym and use an ergometer on high resistance for about an hour for very good aerobic exercise. I also combine this with weights. Therefore, I do not need a manual chair for exercise. However, most people who I see who can use a manual chair do so. I also know that over time many chair users require rotator cuff surgery due to repetitive motion. Most people who are able to use a manual chair do, yet I do not and would not consider it. Am I missing out on something by not using a manual chair? If you had your choice, which would you use?Best,BrienOn Jul 9, 2006, at 2:23 PM, Lori Michaelson wrote: I have to agree with John to a great extent. Just today I was telling my home health nurse that the stupidest question I have been asked [and really irked by] over the years is "How Do You Go on?" I feel like saying "What is the alternative or what do you suggest is the best alternative?" My nurse asked me if it were adults that actually asked that question and I said YEP! In my experience, children have asked the best questions and that is probably because they have not had many years of adult live experience that have dull their sensitivity toward others. Lori ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/9/2006 11:58:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh? that is by far, the dumbest question I've heard in ages. When asked a question that stupid I often reply with an answer equally as stupid. In this case, I wouldn't answer it. I'd run over their foot and while they cried I'd ask, "Did it hurt?" Before my injury I could have dope slapped them. john In a message dated 7/8/2006 5:12:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Hi All, On and off I participate in studies regarding my SCI. Often I'm asked something like "...how would you rate your quality of life since your SCI"? This question gets SO deep under my skin, I could scream. How do you all feel about your quality of life since your injury? Bobbie <7120EC9F-FC44-4CF1-AB41-CCCDD23BC30B>
Re: [QUAD-L] Comebacks_Re: Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh?
As long as it works for you who cares. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Brien Date: 07/11/06 13:41:32 To: Lori Michaelson Cc: Quad Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Comebacks_Re: Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh? Children, in most cases, respond very favorably to my presence. I always offer a smile and perhaps a hi. I don't know if this is because they are eye level, naturally curious, or both. Adults, on the other hand, often avoid my presence if I am rolling by or near them at a public place. But, here is a question to you folks that I just can't figure out but, for some reason, need to understand. Because I am a borderline quad/para with some c 8 function with slight arm and hand impairment, I am eligible for an insurance covered power chair. I have a manual chair and am very strong and capable of using it, however I NEVER use it because I can do so much more with power. Simple example: I can carry a hot pot from the stove to the counter in 2 seconds, mop the floor, vacuum, etc. I go to a gym and use an ergometer on high resistance for about an hour for very good aerobic exercise. I also combine this with weights. Therefore, I do not need a manual chair for exercise. However, most people who I see who can use a manual chair do so. I also know that over time many chair users require rotator cuff surgery due to repetitive motion. Most people who are able to use a manual chair do, yet I do not and would not consider it. Am I missing out on something by not using a manual chair? If you had your choice, which would you use? Best, Brien On Jul 9, 2006, at 2:23 PM, Lori Michaelson wrote: I have to agree with John to a great extent. Just today I was telling my home health nurse that the stupidest question I have been asked [and really irked by] over the years is "How Do You Go on?" I feel like saying "What is the alternative or what do you suggest is the best alternative?" My nurse asked me if it were adults that actually asked that question and I said YEP! In my experience, children have asked the best questions and that is probably because they have not had many years of adult live experience that have dull their sensitivity toward others. Lori ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/9/2006 11:58:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh? that is by far, the dumbest question I've heard in ages. When asked a question that stupid I often reply with an answer equally as stupid. In this case, I wouldn't answer it. I'd run over their foot and while they cried I'd ask, "Did it hurt?" Before my injury I could have dope slapped them. john In a message dated 7/8/2006 5:12:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, On and off I participate in studies regarding my SCI. Often I'm asked something like "...how would you rate your quality of life since your SCI"? This question gets SO deep under my skin, I could scream. How do you all feel about your quality of life since your injury? Bobbie
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Call and talk to the transporatation manager of your city or county, whichever runs the bus/transpotation for handicapped. Explain to them the situation. You have a right to use it. Bill age 55C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLProcrastinate now, don't put it off. - Original Message - From: rawilson7 To: Quad-L Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:02 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] question I would like to find out how others handle some situations. I have been turned down by community transportation I applied because my lift in my Van needs repair and it's not safe to use. Community transport denied me saying I had access to a Van. I've explained over and over the lift is in need of repair and I'm on a limited income and cannot afford the repairs. Their position is that it's not their problem and I must use private transport. I've called one private company to arrange a trip to the doctor and back and was told the trip would cost me $740. For a 16 mile trip. I haven't tried private ambulance yet that's next.I decided to use my own transportation till it leaves me stranded. My question is does anyone have any ideas about how one could get themselves home when personal transportation breaks down?AustinC4-5boat accident 1998
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Did that person work for an agency? Call and demand they send somebody to help NOW and that you don't want the other aid again. Stunt On 7/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i can't stop crying today i got put in this fu^king chair not straight and my back hurts BAD i'll have to stay like this till 7:30 8:00i can't possibly explain this discomfort to anybody else but you guys i'm just listening to music and crying
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Ever tried thumbing a ride? ;^P I "tried". Stunt On 7/11/06, rawilson7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would like to find out how others handle some situations. I have been turned down by community transportation I applied because my lift in my Van needs repair and it's not safe to use. Community transport denied me saying I had access to a Van. I've explained over and over the lift is in need of repair and I'm on a limited income and cannot afford the repairs. Their position is that it's not their problem and I must use private transport. I've called one private company to arrange a trip to the doctor and back and was told the trip would cost me $740. For a 16 mile trip. I haven't tried private ambulance yet that's next. I decided to use my own transportation till it leaves me stranded. My question is does anyone have any ideas about how one could get themselves home when personal transportation breaks down? Austin C4-5 boat accident 1998
Re: [QUAD-L] Comebacks_Re: Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh?
Given my choice I'd use a power chair. I wish I had started using one sooner so my right shoulder didn't require surgery. I can do much more in a power chair because the manual sucks the strength out of me leaving me less likely to go out and enjoy life. Bill age 55C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLProcrastinate now, don't put it off. - Original Message - From: Brien To: Lori Michaelson Cc: Quad Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Comebacks_Re: Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh? Children, in most cases, respond very favorably to my presence. I always offer a smile and perhaps a hi. I don't know if this is because they are eye level, naturally curious, or both. Adults, on the other hand, often avoid my presence if I am rolling by or near them at a public place. But, here is a question to you folks that I just can't figure out but, for some reason, need to understand. Because I am a borderline quad/para with some c 8 function with slight arm and hand impairment, I am eligible for an insurance covered power chair. I have a manual chair and am very strong and capable of using it, however I NEVER use it because I can do so much more with power. Simple example: I can carry a hot pot from the stove to the counter in 2 seconds, mop the floor, vacuum, etc. I go to a gym and use an ergometer on high resistance for about an hour for very good aerobic exercise. I also combine this with weights. Therefore, I do not need a manual chair for exercise. However, most people who I see who can use a manual chair do so. I also know that over time many chair users require rotator cuff surgery due to repetitive motion. Most people who are able to use a manual chair do, yet I do not and would not consider it. Am I missing out on something by not using a manual chair? If you had your choice, which would you use? Best, Brien On Jul 9, 2006, at 2:23 PM, Lori Michaelson wrote: I have to agree with John to a great extent. Just today I was telling my home health nurse that the stupidest question I have been asked [and really irked by] over the years is "How Do You Go on?" I feel like saying "What is the alternative or what do you suggest is the best alternative?" My nurse asked me if it were adults that actually asked that question and I said YEP! In my experience, children have asked the best questions and that is probably because they have not had many years of adult live experience that have dull their sensitivity toward others. Lori ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/9/2006 11:58:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh? that is by far, the dumbest question I've heard in ages. When asked a question that stupid I often reply with an answer equally as stupid. In this case, I wouldn't answer it. I'd run over their foot and while they cried I'd ask, "Did it hurt?" Before my injury I could have dope slapped them. john In a message dated 7/8/2006 5:12:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, On and off I participate in studies regarding my SCI. Often I'm asked something like "...how would you rate your quality of life since your SCI"? This question gets SO deep under my skin, I could scream. How do you all feel about your quality of life since your injury? Bobbie <7120EC9F-FC44-4CF1-AB41-CCCDD23BC30B>
[QUAD-L] ventilator user census
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I would like to find out how others handle some situations. I have been turned down by community transportation I applied because my lift in my Van needs repair and it's not safe to use. Community transport denied me saying I had access to a Van. I've explained over and over the lift is in need of repair and I'm on a limited income and cannot afford the repairs. Their position is that it's not their problem and I must use private transport. I've called one private company to arrange a trip to the doctor and back and was told the trip would cost me $740. For a 16 mile trip. I haven't tried private ambulance yet that's next.I decided to use my own transportation till it leaves me stranded. My question is does anyone have any ideas about how one could get themselves home when personal transportation breaks down?AustinC4-5boat accident 1998
[QUAD-L] Stuck
I got stuck..! I was always scared to go far from my house, incase my chair broke or something. But now that I got my cell phone and Bluetooth, I’m exploring my whole neighborhood. I found an unknown path that wound its way around these new housing developments. Beautifully landscaped, next to a golf course, about ¾ of mile long. But then it just ended. There was a dirt/gravel path that went left. Heading towards a main street. It had about an inch lip and went down hill. I knew going down would be fine, but if the trail did not go through, could I get back over it. I didn’t try. Next day I tried finding the path from the other side. I did. After going about 75 feet down, the dirt path gave way and I slide sideways into a mud hole. I didn’t move far, just enough to sink about 6 inches. No way of driving out. I waited a bit, called out a bit. Knowing I was too stuck to call for my attendant to get me out, I broke down and called 911 (I’m going to add just the non emergency police number now). Just as I was giving directions, a truck with landscapers shows up and gets me out. I guess going down a soft dirt paths with mud on the edges, isn’t a real smart thing to do. I keep thinking, What if no phone, what if no landscapers… That’s the 2nd time I had to call for help. First was when I was driving down a sidewalk, hit a piece of gravel, that made my hand come off the control and my chair stopped immediately. My momentum made me fall forward… No chest strap. I was to far forward to reach the control or recline switch. I had to call home for help. Thanks for cell phones… Greg
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why can't u call somebody want one of us to call for you???[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i can't stop crying today i got put in this fu^king chair not straight and my back hurts BAD i'll have to stay like this till 7:30 8:00 i can't possibly explain this discomfort to anybody else but you guys i'm just listening to music and crying
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it's just that my wife doesn't want me anymore ... my brain is going crazy and i can't stop thinking. she married me this way 24 years ago. now she needs to move on with her life. - Original Message - From: Miss Liz To: ALAN LABARR Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] reply Don't worry @ irking!! we do it alot! - Original Message - From: ALAN LABARR To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; S. Dial Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] reply thanks steph. hope this works 'cause i really don't want to irk anyone else. alan - Original Message - From: S. Dial To: quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] reply Alan, If you hit reply to Bobbie it just goes to her. You have to put to quad-list@eskimo.com in address bar in order to see your reply on the list or hit reply all which sends to the list and each individual but then we'd all get doubles of ur messages and get really irked. :o) Steph
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Hi Mark, Way to go, buddy! A visit with another member is a great thing. We are a pretty close List but nothing beats a face-to-face meeting! Good for BOTH of you. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USARollinOn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey people I was in Tyler this Saturday for a family re-union on my Mom's side and got to take about 30 minutes to visit with Amye aka LittleQuad. It was awesome to finally meet a list member(and a cute one at that)after talking on and off the list for over 5 years. Had a great time meeting for the first time and hope to do it again but not at a Sonic out in the Texas heat. I sure wish we could all meet at Stuntman's BBQ every year because 30 min isn't near enough time to talk in person, not to mention it was hot and not a beer in sight! If you can meet another member I encourage it. Peace, Mark
[QUAD-L] From United Spinal Magazine
Study participants wanted Forgiveness & Copying after SCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Parenting with a Disability [EMAIL PROTECTED] KK PS - Does anyone else get this magazine? It is free from the VA & has some great subjects. Last month it was MS. This month it is about legislation. No I was not in the service. They are doing research on MS because so many that were in the service are getting MS.
Re: [QUAD-L] Comebacks_Re: Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh?
Children, in most cases, respond very favorably to my presence. I always offer a smile and perhaps a hi. I don't know if this is because they are eye level, naturally curious, or both. Adults, on the other hand, often avoid my presence if I am rolling by or near them at a public place. But, here is a question to you folks that I just can't figure out but, for some reason, need to understand. Because I am a borderline quad/para with some c 8 function with slight arm and hand impairment, I am eligible for an insurance covered power chair. I have a manual chair and am very strong and capable of using it, however I NEVER use it because I can do so much more with power. Simple example: I can carry a hot pot from the stove to the counter in 2 seconds, mop the floor, vacuum, etc. I go to a gym and use an ergometer on high resistance for about an hour for very good aerobic exercise. I also combine this with weights. Therefore, I do not need a manual chair for exercise. However, most people who I see who can use a manual chair do so. I also know that over time many chair users require rotator cuff surgery due to repetitive motion. Most people who are able to use a manual chair do, yet I do not and would not consider it. Am I missing out on something by not using a manual chair? If you had your choice, which would you use?Best,BrienOn Jul 9, 2006, at 2:23 PM, Lori Michaelson wrote:I have to agree with John to a great extent. Just today I was telling my home health nurse that the stupidest question I have been asked [and really irked by] over the years is "How Do You Go on?" I feel like saying "What is the alternative or what do you suggest is the best alternative?" My nurse asked me if it were adults that actually asked that question and I said YEP! In my experience, children have asked the best questions and that is probably because they have not had many years of adult live experience that have dull their sensitivity toward others. Lori ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 7/9/2006 11:58:44 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quality of Life and SCI ~~ Huh? that is by far, the dumbest question I've heard in ages. When asked a question that stupid I often reply with an answer equally as stupid. In this case, I wouldn't answer it. I'd run over their foot and while they cried I'd ask, "Did it hurt?"Before my injury I could have dope slapped them. john In a message dated 7/8/2006 5:12:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Hi All, On and off I participate in studies regarding my SCI. Often I'm asked something like "...how would you rate your quality of life since your SCI"? This question gets SO deep under my skin, I could scream. How do you all feel about your quality of life since your injury? Bobbie <7120EC9F-FC44-4CF1-AB41-CCCDD23BC30B>
Re: [QUAD-L] July 10, 1966
44 years old c-7 ASIA b 54 months post Brien
[QUAD-L] this quad crap sucks
i can't stop crying today i got put in this fu^king chair not straight and my back hurts BAD i'll have to stay like this till 7:30 8:00 i can't possibly explain this discomfort to anybody else but you guys i'm just listening to music and crying
Re: [QUAD-L] What's out your back door & down the street?
Here they have to meet strict building codes. It took 3 years to get them to keep the trees & hide the garbage & make the entire store & parking wheelchair accessible. It is a super Walmart. Takes me 2 days to get groceries one day & drugs & such the next. It is such a happy store. Just opened & I hope it stays that way.
Re: [QUAD-L] handle users
With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USAAngelique Novak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For those of you who use a handle for your name, what's your gender?-Angelique
Re: [QUAD-L] What's out your back door & down the street?
Hi Bobbie, We are on the north-side of Wichita Falls, and are mostly a bedroom community for active and retired military. Out my front window there is pasture and a few trees between me and I-44 about a mile west. Most of the homes are north of me so the traffic is light here. Stay strong. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering what it's like in your "backyards"? By me in Northern New Jersey lots of hills and valleys. But I'm about one quater mile from Rt. 80 and we hear the "white Noise" from our apartment window. Our four story brick apartment building is sandwiched between a high school and St. Peter's Church. Across the street are many more apartments. Bobbie
RE: [QUAD-L] What's out your back door & down the street?
Many in our community have been fighting to keep MalMart out. They already put 3 in a 3 mile area. They call it the “MalMart Triangle.” At least the city made them redesign the outside. The Super MalMarts are so big. They made them make it look like it was 3 different buildings. It’s a nice looking stripmall, but there are just too many of them. The article I read says home prices drop 10% and crime goes up by 15% once a WalMrt goes in. Plus now, they are just un American. I saw one story about one of the last American made flat screen tv monitor makers was told by WalMart, if he did not relocate his companies production lines to China, to lower the cost a few percents, they would no longer carry that product… Greg what is it with walmart? Why can't they build those damn places in the slums. At least put them next to millionair estates. john
[QUAD-L] [Fwd: WE EXPECT A VOTE ANY DAY ON HR 810 AND NEED YOUR HELP ASAP!]
--- Begin Message --- Dear Friends, We have learned that the Senate debate and vote on the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act, H.R. 810, may occur as early as the latter part of this week. This is the moment we have been waiting for since the bill passed the House of Representatives on May, 24, 2005. This is our one and only chance to get the bill passed by the Senate and we need you to act NOW! Shortly before the Fourth of July recess, Senator Frist successfully obtained what is called “unanimous consent” from his Senate colleagues to move forward with a vote on a package of bills that includes H.R. 810. The other bills in the package are the Alternative Pluripotent Stem Cell Therapies Enhancement Act, S. 2754, and the Fetus Farming Prohibition Act of 2006, S. 3504. Under the agreement, amendments will not be permitted and each bill will have a separate vote and will need at least 60 votes to pass. Our friends in the Senate tell us to expect to be prepared for a vote any day. We will not be taking a position on the other two bills; our goal is to get H.R. 810 passed. We do not believe the other bills change anything or allow for anything new. We estimate that both other bills will pass overwhelmingly. It is a vote for H.R. 810, and this bill alone, that will move stem cell research forward in our country. ALL correspondence to and discussion with the Senate must be clear that a vote in favor of H.R. 810 is the only pro-patient, pro-cure, pro-research vote that Senators can take. We all must be consistent with our message that Senators VOTE FOR H.R. 810 and that a vote for the other bills will absolutely NOT be sufficient. Some Senators will try to hide behind the other bills and claim that they are pro-stem cell research. We cannot allow them to do that. We all must emphasize that a Senator's votes will only be acceptable if she or he VOTES FOR H.R. 810, and that a vote against H.R. 810 is a vote against 100 million patients and against moving forward with research. ACTION PLAN CHECK LIST Please do as many of the following as you can: ACTION #1 Pick up the telephone NOW and call your Senators urging them to vote in favor of H.R. 810. Call your senators at the following numbers and share with them the message below: Senator Mark Dayton Telephone #: (202) 224-3244 Senator Norm Coleman Telephone #: (202) 224-5641 Message: “I strongly support the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act (H.R. 810) and ask that you vote in favor of it. Only a vote in favor of H.R. 810 is a vote in favor of moving stem cell research forward in our county. Please work to pass H.R. 810 immediately.” ACTION #2 Send a letter in support of H.R. 810 to your Senators. These letters must be sent via fax or hand-delivery AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. Don't worry about personalizing the letter if that will hold you up - just send our suggested letter with your name and address! Our supporters will use them as they make the case for the bill, and those who are not yet with us need to hear from each of you. Suggested Letter: “Dear Senator, I strongly support the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act (H.R. 810) and ask that you vote in favor of it. Only a vote in favor of H.R. 810 is a vote in favor of moving stem cell research forward in our county. A vote against H.R. 810 is a vote against 100 million patients and against progress for research. I will not accept your vote for any other bill as support for stem cell research. H.R. 810 is the only bill that is pro-patient, pro-cure, and pro-research. Please work to pass H.R. 810 immediately. Sincerely, Your Name Address” Fax your letters to: Senator Mark Dayton Fax #: (202) 228-2186 Senator Norm Coleman Fax #: (202) 224-1152 ACTION #3 Reach out to your family, friends, and neighbors and urge them all to call, fax and email their Senators in support of H.R. 810. This is the time to pull out all the stops; we will not have another opportunity for a Senate vote on H.R. 810. ACTION #4 Make in-person appointments with the staff of Senators who are not cosponsors of H.R. 810 to make the case in support of the bill. This will be most feasible if you live in the Washington, DC area, but if you are based outside of DC and plan to come to town for meetings on stem cell research, NOW is the time. The following is a list of the cosponsors of the Senate version of H.R. 810. If you do NOT see your Senator’s name on this list, then please work as hard as you can to make contact with that office. SUPPORTERS of H.R. 810: Akaka, Daniel K. [HI] Baucus, Max [MT] Bayh, Evan [IN] Bingaman, Jeff [NM] Boxer, Barbara [CA] Cantwell, Maria [WA] Carper, Thomas R. [DE] Chafee, Lincoln [RI] Clinton, Hillary Rodham [NY] Collins, Susan M. [ME] Dayton, Mark [MN] Dodd, Christopher J. [CT] Dorgan, Byron L. [ND] Durbin, Richard [IL] Feingold, Russell D. [WI] Feinstein, Dianne [CA] Harkin, Tom [IA] Hatch, Orrin G. [UT] Inouye, Daniel K. [HI] Jeffords, James M. [VT] Johnson, Tim [SD] Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] Kerry,
Re: [QUAD-L] What's out your back door & down the street?
Sorry Silas, I thought you had it pretty good, but dayum, a walmart. Too bad. john In a message dated 7/10/2006 4:40:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My back yard is a 500 acre farm, mostly mountains. I have a extrem 4x4 wheelchair and a 4x4 kawsaki mule to get around, my driveway and road to my shop is the only pavement. The nearest town is 8 miles away, and were just getting a wal-mart. Lol. Pretty much out in the sticks! Silas
Fwd: [QUAD-L] Run of the Bulls produces another Quad
--- Begin Message --- Yes it was a cow. Did you read this? http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SPAIN_RUNNING_OF_THE_BULLS?SITE=OKTUL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT --- End Message ---
Re: [QUAD-L] Run of the Bulls produces another Quad
Yes it was a cow. Did you read this? http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SPAIN_RUNNING_OF_THE_BULLS?SITE=OKTUL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Re: [QUAD-L] What's out your back door & down the street?
what is it with walmart? Why can't they build those damn places in the slums. At least put them next to millionair estates. john In a message dated 7/10/2006 5:50:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I live in a nursing home in a small rural town that's developing rapidly. A state road (228) runs in front of our home and is less than a mile to the highway express and when you're outside our front entrance or near our duck pond you can hear and watch the traffic as it heads into town or towards Jacksonville. Our back yard is a staff parking lot but outside my window, which faces north, used to be a quiet wooded area but has been mowed down and now there's hills of dirt growing and then disappearing as construction vehicles go back and forth busily preparing the once forested land for the town's newest bank. And early next year we're slated to have a super Walmart built about a half mile or so from us, we're very excited. Sad, isn't it? :-p Steph
