Re: [QUAD-L] Wayward Spouses
Has anyone else had to deal with this? More of us than would care to acknowledge I'm sure. Sometimes age alone diminishes the spark we all had one time. I've been married for 33 years to the same woman and now we both have lost most of our interest. She also has put on a lot of weight and that also has made things difficult. Sometimes you just settle for a good companion that loves you even tho you are disabled - sometimes they are glad you aren't too demanding in the bedroom. Sometimes they rush to your aid whenever you are in need and otherwise in general, take care of you. This really isn't such a bad trade for inactivity in the bedroom. We had our days and now we have our nights - for sleep. o'c In a message dated 7/27/2006 12:32:38 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Over the years I've noticed that spouses respond to our paralysis by either being 110% supportive or by checking out. That's tough. When I became paralyzed, my husband checked out. He lives in the basement and I sometimes don't see him for days. It took a long time to adjust to a situation I didn't want. Then there's the absence of touch. With ALS I can feel EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE... I just can't move. So sex COULD be great but I lost my partner. Has anyone else had to deal with this? Sandy Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967
Re: [QUAD-L] Anyone have any fun or vacations this year ?
At 04:49 PM 7/27/2006, Danny Hearn wrote: Has anyone else had any fun vacations or trips this year? I had 2 virtual trips this year. They were both pretty fun for me. Last week was the 2006 Rare Neuroimmunologic Disorders Symposium in Baltimore. It was co-sponsored by The Transverse Myelitis Association (which I am a part of) and The Johns Hopkins Project Restore. We had hoped to have it in Seattle again so I could attend but it would have added to the cost. We managed to do the next best thing and setup a live Internet feed for me. I was really cool watching live and being able to talk via webcam with a few people. I even asked one of the doctors a question during a q&a. Some of you will really enjoy the new research going on. I'll have the videos on our web site soon after the DVDs are ready. The other one was our family reunion in Kona, Hawaii. It was for the descendents of my great, great grandfather. I had setup the web site where most of us second cousins got in contact with each other, and also the did the logo for the t-shirts. They really wanted me to be included. One cousin setup 2 network cameras and a video camera camera connected to a slingbox. It was neat to watch the live band and some of the cousin's dance the hula. Jim Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://makoa.org/jim disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.org Please Help: Inkjet & Toner Cartridge Recycling
Re: [QUAD-L] Wayward Spouses / Sex
I've never been married but have had several partners in the last 20 years. The longest relationship lasted 8 years and the sex was, as in any relationship, hot and heavy in the beginning then dwindled off to practically nothing in the last 2 years, which really irked me as I'd hit my 30s and went into hormone overload it seemed! In the 4 years we've been apart I've had sex only a few times and like Sandy I really miss having that intimacy. W: as far as your "rent a horny male crip" goes - the logistics of getting the two quads and or quad / para "together" usually requires involving other people and I, personally, dunno about the rest of you, have no intention of asking others to get involved in that aspect of my life. I already don't have enough privacy as it is! But, if you're aware of a "rent a horny AB" program (no, I don't mean prostitutes) let us know, ok? Stephanie C3-C4 quad
[QUAD-L] if anyone is interested in some free coupons
If anyone is interested -- I have received 2 set's of coupons that I will gladly send out via mail if anyone wants them. 1st-- 1.00 off any TUMS smoothie product 2nd-- 2.00 off any OS-CAL calcium supplement 3rd-- 5.00 off any CITRUCEL caplets, fiber shakes or fibersmoothie products I know these can get expensive if you take them daily. Just thought I'd pass them on to anyone who can use them. Penny
Re: [QUAD-L] Religion and Politics on the quad-list
Thank you- Jim.and as W said Well putI feel the same way but may not have said it as good as you did. DanJim Lubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As the person who pays for the account that is hosting this list, here's what I have to say.I would really prefer that Religion and Politics not be discussed.I created this list to get away from the liberal politics at the time on the mobility list some 11 years ago. Sure I could have deleted the messages I didn't want to read but why should I have to download the crap in the first place. I think email list groups should have a single, narrow topic. People can easily subscribe to multiple lists that they are interested in. It really doesn't matter to me if this list do not generate a lot of traffic. I created it as a place where quads could come for advice and discuss topics pertaining to living life as a quad. Now days anyone can easily create their own free list group if you don't mind the ads. Accounts at eskimo.com are $7/mo for 2 lists. Jim Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://makoa.org/jim disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.orgPlease Help: Inkjet & Toner Cartridge Recycling
[QUAD-L] Religion and Politics on the quad-list
In a message dated 7/27/2006 7:50:34 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well Written. and Well Read and well understood. W As the person who pays for the account that is hosting this list, here's what I have to say.I would really prefer that Religion and Politics not be discussed.I created this list to get away from the liberal politics at the time on the mobility list some 11 years ago. Sure I could have deleted the messages I didn't want to read but why should I have to download the crap in the first place. I think email list groups should have a single, narrow topic. People can easily subscribe to multiple lists that they are interested in. It really doesn't matter to me if this list do not generate a lot of traffic. I created it as a place where quads could come for advice and discuss topics pertaining to living life as a quad. Now days anyone can easily create their own free list group if you don't mind the ads. Accounts at eskimo.com are $7/mo for 2 lists.
[QUAD-L] Religion and Politics on the quad-list
As the person who pays for the account that is hosting this list, here's what I have to say. I would really prefer that Religion and Politics not be discussed. I created this list to get away from the liberal politics at the time on the mobility list some 11 years ago. Sure I could have deleted the messages I didn't want to read but why should I have to download the crap in the first place. I think email list groups should have a single, narrow topic. People can easily subscribe to multiple lists that they are interested in. It really doesn't matter to me if this list do not generate a lot of traffic. I created it as a place where quads could come for advice and discuss topics pertaining to living life as a quad. Now days anyone can easily create their own free list group if you don't mind the ads. Accounts at eskimo.com are $7/mo for 2 lists. Jim Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://makoa.org/jim disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.org Please Help: Inkjet & Toner Cartridge Recycling
Re: [QUAD-L] The Cats in Heat ... Send Help ...
Stephanie,I did not know that cats did that. It was funny, but not if you were there dealing with it.Dana. That was funny!!!.Tim "S. Dial" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Y'all, Read both of these to get the full story. The second one had me laughing so much I was teary-eyed! It's sick yet funny and makes me very glad I've never had a female cat! Steph http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-wuYX4HM8d79lXOqdkUTO?p=871 http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-wuYX4HM8d79lXOqdkUTO?p=916 Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: [QUAD-L] Wayward Spouses
In a message dated 7/27/2006 2:32:38 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Over the years I've noticed that spouses respond to our paralysis by either being 110% supportive or by checking out. That's tough. When I became paralyzed, my husband checked out. He lives in the basement and I sometimes don't see him for days. It took a long time to adjust to a situation I didn't want. Then there's the absence of touch. With ALS I can feel EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE... I just can't move. So sex COULD be great but I lost my partner. Has anyone else had to deal with this? Sandy Have you ever considered renting a horny crip... by the day? You wouldn't believe all the horny, over stimulated male quads looking for employment as professional gigolos. Support you local center first before you consider going nationwide. Good Luck Best Wishes W
Re: [QUAD-L] Religion and Politics
Any subject is fair game as long as ya don't start slinging donkey dung, lol. On most subjects you are protected by Freedom of Speech, unless of course you violate some of those other equally important amendments of our Constitute. I live in an area that is surrounded by religious colleges and schools that have outreach programs for their students each year. We have a very nice sign by our door bell that says. We won't violate your right to free speech, if you don't violate our right to religion Some take the time to read it, while others either choose not to or can't read. When that happens, we can be rude or courteous. Just like our Constitution. Respecting others is a lost artform. W In a message dated 7/27/2006 3:51:11 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see no reason why we shouldn't discuss Religion, Politics or Sex. To me, it makes the list a lot more interesting. If you don't want to read posts about these topics, just hit the delete key. I'm sure there are many people on this list that don't have terrible pain or chronic utis' or constant bowel problems. So, they delete these posts as they don't pertain to them. The same is true for the previous topics. If they don't interest you - just hit delete. I, for one, have learned a lot from these topics and hope they continue. Dan V
[QUAD-L] Anyone have any fun or vacations this year ?
I have been a quad 9 years this Aug. 3rd, Me and my wife took our 1st vacation since I was injured last year..we went to Memphis and saw many of the area sites and attractions. Each time we take our 2 oldest grandkids age 7and 8 with us. This year was our 2nd trip... we got back from Branson, Missouri last weekend, It was very hot but we survived lol . I had a UTI but took levequin and went on the trip anyway...Branson has a lot of really neat shows and restaurants, we really enjoyed it although next time we will travel when the weather is cooler.We stayed at the Branson Clarion Palace right next to the President Suite room 517 where Ex - President George Bush and his wife stayed in 1992. They call his old room the President Suite now and rent it---His Suite was much larger than ours with extra rooms too. Too bad hotels don't have lifts for bed to wheelchair transfers but my wife did pretty well moving me with a slide board.I was really worried on that issue because here at home We have an over-head bed lift. Vacation is fun but still a lot of work for my wife with me and grandkids, some of the shows we saw were Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede-- The Bald Knobbers--and Kirby Van Burch the world Famous Magician. Has anyone else had any fun vacations or trips this year? Dan
Re: [QUAD-L] Religion and Politics
OK , Dan tell us of what about politics and religion you have learned so much ?? Much of what is said on those subjects are personal views and propaganda and many post weird political views and they are very uninformed and rant and rave on subjects that they know very little about. thats my opinion---the other Dan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto Dan. As my old IT manager used to say, "The DELETE key is your friend. Use it." O'C In a message dated 7/27/2006 1:51:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see no reason why we shouldn't discuss Religion, Politics or Sex. To me, it makes the list a lot more interesting. If you don't want to read posts about these topics, just hit the delete key. I'm sure there are many people on this list that don't have terrible pain or chronic utis' or constant bowel problems. So, they delete these posts as they don't pertain to them. The same is true for the previous topics. If they don't interest you - just hit delete. I, for one, have learned a lot from these topics and hope they continue. Dan V At 02:41 PM 7/27/2006 -0500, Angelique Novak said something that elicited my response: Angie,[and others] I have been on this list since 1995 and we have had numerous discussions on religion. They, of course, got into very heated debates. Anything with controversy stirs up people's emotions as we just saw with the stem cell example. Politics discussions have come and gone here just as rapidly. But they never fail to come around again at some point in time - the nature of the beast of mankind. They say [whoever THEY are] religion, politics and sex are topics to stay away from. The first two I can definitely understand but I think it would be more interesting to talk about the latter here!!! Maybe it is a rare occurrence for many members and that is the reason. It usually happens about once a year when religion is brought up. I remember one time that the posts went on for weeks and weeks. I always find it interesting to discuss religion and such but it causes such turmoil and nobody is going to change other people's beliefs so I've finally got over it. I most definitely understand where you're coming from but, as you can see, many-a-person's underwear gets into a tight wad even if it is a general statement. I have an older cousin [mid-50s] who was diagnosed with skin cancer about three years ago. His wife is always keeps people updated with his situation but every single one of her e-mails are saturated with God, God, God. I am glad that they can find solace in their vision of a god but it becomes very distasteful when it takes over the entire e-mail. I have to bite my tonge every time I receive one of her sickly sweet diatribes. What is more disturbing is that she never gives any of the doctors credit ... it is always God. One day, we wrote a response just to get it off our chest but we did not send the e-mail. Now, I just let it roll off my shoulders [sort of] but it is not easy. It is especially annoying to me that, before his diagnosis, they were never so blatantly religious. So, essentially, they have shown themselves to be emergency-room Christians. Common, but sad. Or sick. "I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief." -- Gerry Spence LoriC4/5 COMPLETE, 26 years postTucson, Arizona Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967
Re: [QUAD-L] Religion and Politics
ILL second this Dan! Silas - Original Message - From: Dan To: Quad List Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Religion and Politics I see no reason why we shouldn't discuss Religion, Politics or Sex. To me, it makes the list a lot more interesting. If you don't want to read posts about these topics, just hit the delete key. I'm sure there are many people on this list that don't have terrible pain or chronic utis' or constant bowel problems. So, they delete these posts as they don't pertain to them. The same is true for the previous topics. If they don't interest you - just hit delete. I, for one, have learned a lot from these topics and hope they continue. Dan V At 02:41 PM 7/27/2006 -0500, Angelique Novak said something that elicited my response: Angie,[and others] I have been on this list since 1995 and we have had numerous discussions on religion. They, of course, got into very heated debates. Anything with controversy stirs up people's emotions as we just saw with the stem cell example. Politics discussions have come and gone here just as rapidly. But they never fail to come around again at some point in time - the nature of the beast of mankind. They say [whoever THEY are] religion, politics and sex are topics to stay away from. The first two I can definitely understand but I think it would be more interesting to talk about the latter here!!! Maybe it is a rare occurrence for many members and that is the reason. It usually happens about once a year when religion is brought up. I remember one time that the posts went on for weeks and weeks. I always find it interesting to discuss religion and such but it causes such turmoil and nobody is going to change other people's beliefs so I've finally got over it. I most definitely understand where you're coming from but, as you can see, many-a-person's underwear gets into a tight wad even if it is a general statement. I have an older cousin [mid-50s] who was diagnosed with skin cancer about three years ago. His wife is always keeps people updated with his situation but every single one of her e-mails are saturated with God, God, God. I am glad that they can find solace in their vision of a god but it becomes very distasteful when it takes over the entire e-mail. I have to bite my tonge every time I receive one of her sickly sweet diatribes. What is more disturbing is that she never gives any of the doctors credit ... it is always God. One day, we wrote a response just to get it off our chest but we did not send the e-mail. Now, I just let it roll off my shoulders [sort of] but it is not easy. It is especially annoying to me that, before his diagnosis, they were never so blatantly religious. So, essentially, they have shown themselves to be emergency-room Christians. Common, but sad. Or sick. "I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief." -- Gerry Spence LoriC4/5 COMPLETE, 26 years postTucson, Arizona
Re: [QUAD-L] Religion and Politics
I agree Dan, As long as it's civil I don't see a problem with it. Who better to talk about it with than other people in our situation and my opinion on topics has changed since my injury on certain topics because I look at life a lot different and whole lot clearer. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Dan Date: 07/27/06 16:08:19 To: Quad List Subject: [QUAD-L] Religion and Politics I see no reason why we shouldn't discuss Religion, Politics or Sex. To me, it makes the list a lot more interesting. If you don't want to read posts about these topics, just hit the delete key. I'm sure there are many people on this list that don't have terrible pain or chronic utis' or constant bowel problems. So, they delete these posts as they don't pertain to them. The same is true for the previous topics. If they don't interest you - just hit delete. I, for one, have learned a lot from these topics and hope they continue. Dan V At 02:41 PM 7/27/2006 -0500, Angelique Novak said something that elicited my response: Angie,[and others] I have been on this list since 1995 and we have had numerous discussions on religion. They, of course, got into very heated debates. Anything with controversy stirs up people's emotions as we just saw with the stem cell example. Politics discussions have come and gone here just as rapidly. But they never fail to come around again at some point in time - the nature of the beast of mankind. They say [whoever THEY are] religion, politics and sex are topics to stay away from. The first two I can definitely understand but I think it would be more interesting to talk about the latter here!!! Maybe it is a rare occurrence for many members and that is the reason. It usually happens about once a year when religion is brought up. I remember one time that the posts went on for weeks and weeks. I always find it interesting to discuss religion and such but it causes such turmoil and nobody is going to change other people's beliefs so I've finally got over it. I most definitely understand where you're coming from but, as you can see, many-a-person's underwear gets into a tight wad even if it is a general statement. I have an older cousin [mid-50s] who was diagnosed with skin cancer about three years ago. His wife is always keeps people updated with his situation but every single one of her e-mails are saturated with God, God, God. I am glad that they can find solace in their vision of a god but it becomes very distasteful when it takes over the entire e-mail. I have to bite my tonge every time I receive one of her sickly sweet diatribes. What is more disturbing is that she never gives any of the doctors credit ... it is always God. One day, we wrote a response just to get it off our chest but we did not send the e-mail. Now, I just let it roll off my shoulders [sort of] but it is not easy. It is especially annoying to me that, before his diagnosis, they were never so blatantly religious. So, essentially, they have shown themselves to be emergency-room Christians. Common, but sad. Or sick. "I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief." -- Gerry Spence LoriC4/5 COMPLETE, 26 years postTucson, Arizona
[QUAD-L] Religion and Politics and posting in general
That be great Dan. I'm not the email police but another thing is I'm not interested in being a voyeur on personal notes between two members. Lots of people leave due to the number of emails generated from the q-list. It's a potential of information; however, replying LOL to the whole list is a waste of a byte. Topics change from spousal neglect to AD to who's going to win the World series (Mets, btw) So before you hit send check who's in the receive box. If it says q-list and five other people they get 2 of the same emails. If you just wish to reply to one member hit reply. signed email patrol - Original Message - From: Dan To: Quad List Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Religion and Politics I see no reason why we shouldn't discuss Religion, Politics or Sex. To me, it makes the list a lot more interesting. If you don't want to read posts about these topics, just hit the delete key. I'm sure there are many people on this list that don't have terrible pain or chronic utis' or constant bowel problems. So, they delete these posts as they don't pertain to them. The same is true for the previous topics. If they don't interest you - just hit delete. I, for one, have learned a lot from these topics and hope they continue. Dan V At 02:41 PM 7/27/2006 -0500, Angelique Novak said something that elicited my response: Angie,[and others] I have been on this list since 1995 and we have had numerous discussions on religion. They, of course, got into very heated debates. Anything with controversy stirs up people's emotions as we just saw with the stem cell example. Politics discussions have come and gone here just as rapidly. But they never fail to come around again at some point in time - the nature of the beast of mankind. They say [whoever THEY are] religion, politics and sex are topics to stay away from. The first two I can definitely understand but I think it would be more interesting to talk about the latter here!!! Maybe it is a rare occurrence for many members and that is the reason. It usually happens about once a year when religion is brought up. I remember one time that the posts went on for weeks and weeks. I always find it interesting to discuss religion and such but it causes such turmoil and nobody is going to change other people's beliefs so I've finally got over it. I most definitely understand where you're coming from but, as you can see, many-a-person's underwear gets into a tight wad even if it is a general statement. I have an older cousin [mid-50s] who was diagnosed with skin cancer about three years ago. His wife is always keeps people updated with his situation but every single one of her e-mails are saturated with God, God, God. I am glad that they can find solace in their vision of a god but it becomes very distasteful when it takes over the entire e-mail. I have to bite my tonge every time I receive one of her sickly sweet diatribes. What is more disturbing is that she never gives any of the doctors credit ... it is always God. One day, we wrote a response just to get it off our chest but we did not send the e-mail. Now, I just let it roll off my shoulders [sort of] but it is not easy. It is especially annoying to me that, before his diagnosis, they were never so blatantly religious. So, essentially, they have shown themselves to be emergency-room Christians. Common, but sad. Or sick. "I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief." -- Gerry Spence LoriC4/5 COMPLETE, 26 years postTucson, Arizona
Re: [QUAD-L] Religion and Politics
Ditto Dan. As my old IT manager used to say, "The DELETE key is your friend. Use it." O'C In a message dated 7/27/2006 1:51:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see no reason why we shouldn't discuss Religion, Politics or Sex. To me, it makes the list a lot more interesting. If you don't want to read posts about these topics, just hit the delete key. I'm sure there are many people on this list that don't have terrible pain or chronic utis' or constant bowel problems. So, they delete these posts as they don't pertain to them. The same is true for the previous topics. If they don't interest you - just hit delete. I, for one, have learned a lot from these topics and hope they continue. Dan V At 02:41 PM 7/27/2006 -0500, Angelique Novak said something that elicited my response: Angie,[and others] I have been on this list since 1995 and we have had numerous discussions on religion. They, of course, got into very heated debates. Anything with controversy stirs up people's emotions as we just saw with the stem cell example. Politics discussions have come and gone here just as rapidly. But they never fail to come around again at some point in time - the nature of the beast of mankind. They say [whoever THEY are] religion, politics and sex are topics to stay away from. The first two I can definitely understand but I think it would be more interesting to talk about the latter here!!! Maybe it is a rare occurrence for many members and that is the reason. It usually happens about once a year when religion is brought up. I remember one time that the posts went on for weeks and weeks. I always find it interesting to discuss religion and such but it causes such turmoil and nobody is going to change other people's beliefs so I've finally got over it. I most definitely understand where you're coming from but, as you can see, many-a-person's underwear gets into a tight wad even if it is a general statement. I have an older cousin [mid-50s] who was diagnosed with skin cancer about three years ago. His wife is always keeps people updated with his situation but every single one of her e-mails are saturated with God, God, God. I am glad that they can find solace in their vision of a god but it becomes very distasteful when it takes over the entire e-mail. I have to bite my tonge every time I receive one of her sickly sweet diatribes. What is more disturbing is that she never gives any of the doctors credit ... it is always God. One day, we wrote a response just to get it off our chest but we did not send the e-mail. Now, I just let it roll off my shoulders [sort of] but it is not easy. It is especially annoying to me that, before his diagnosis, they were never so blatantly religious. So, essentially, they have shown themselves to be emergency-room Christians. Common, but sad. Or sick. "I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief." -- Gerry Spence LoriC4/5 COMPLETE, 26 years postTucson, Arizona Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967
[QUAD-L] Religion and Politics
I see no reason why we shouldn't discuss Religion, Politics or Sex. To me, it makes the list a lot more interesting. If you don't want to read posts about these topics, just hit the delete key. I'm sure there are many people on this list that don't have terrible pain or chronic utis' or constant bowel problems. So, they delete these posts as they don't pertain to them. The same is true for the previous topics. If they don't interest you - just hit delete. I, for one, have learned a lot from these topics and hope they continue. Dan V At 02:41 PM 7/27/2006 -0500, Angelique Novak said something that elicited my response: Angie,[and others] I have been on this list since 1995 and we have had numerous discussions on religion. They, of course, got into very heated debates. Anything with controversy stirs up people's emotions as we just saw with the stem cell example. Politics discussions have come and gone here just as rapidly. But they never fail to come around again at some point in time - the nature of the beast of mankind. They say [whoever THEY are] religion, politics and sex are topics to stay away from. The first two I can definitely understand but I think it would be more interesting to talk about the latter here!!! Maybe it is a rare occurrence for many members and that is the reason. It usually happens about once a year when religion is brought up. I remember one time that the posts went on for weeks and weeks. I always find it interesting to discuss religion and such but it causes such turmoil and nobody is going to change other people's beliefs so I've finally got over it. I most definitely understand where you're coming from but, as you can see, many-a-person's underwear gets into a tight wad even if it is a general statement. I have an older cousin [mid-50s] who was diagnosed with skin cancer about three years ago. His wife is always keeps people updated with his situation but every single one of her e-mails are saturated with God, God, God. I am glad that they can find solace in their vision of a god but it becomes very distasteful when it takes over the entire e-mail. I have to bite my tonge every time I receive one of her sickly sweet diatribes. What is more disturbing is that she never gives any of the doctors credit ... it is always God. One day, we wrote a response just to get it off our chest but we did not send the e-mail. Now, I just let it roll off my shoulders [sort of] but it is not easy. It is especially annoying to me that, before his diagnosis, they were never so blatantly religious. So, essentially, they have shown themselves to be emergency-room Christians. Common, but sad. Or sick. "I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief." -- Gerry Spence LoriC4/5 COMPLETE, 26 years postTucson, Arizona
[QUAD-L] Angelique and Sandy- Female Possers opps Posters
In a message dated 7/27/2006 1:30:42 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm another girl on the List...not sure what number..I lost count..but I know I'm not the last.. Gina Thanks Gina. You have finally proven what I've been saying for a long time. This list has too many women, lol. Now I know you guys outnumber the guys. W
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: The Tea Cup
In a message dated 7/27/2006 10:18:16 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll bring the candles, incense, Ouija board, some abled hands, and a lighter. You bring the booze! We'll party like rock stars, and maybe contact a few from beyond! -Angie P.S. Too sensitive? You've got to be kidding! I think that Stuntman is looking for some entertaintment this year for his summer Quad Cookout. The candles and stuff just might be a great ice breaker too. With all the wheelchairs there, I doubt if you will need anymore Rock Stars, lol. W
Re: [QUAD-L] Religion_Angie and others
Thanks, Lori. I appreciate the understanding, and agree with you about the subject. I think sex probably isn't discussed here, (and I know I'm fairly new to the list), cuz for the majority of us, (I'm guessing), it's pointless to go get some. No payoff. -Angie Lori Michaelson wrote: Angie,[and others] I have been on this list since 1995 and we have had numerous discussions on religion. They, of course, got into very heated debates. Anything with controversy stirs up people's emotions as we just saw with the stem cell example. Politics discussions have come and gone here just as rapidly. But they never fail to come around again at some point in time - the nature of the beast of mankind. They say [whoever THEY are] religion, politics and sex are topics to stay away from. The first two I can definitely understand but I think it would be more interesting to talk about the latter here!!! Maybe it is a rare occurrence for many members and that is the reason. It usually happens about once a year when religion is brought up. I remember one time that the posts went on for weeks and weeks. I always find it interesting to discuss religion and such but it causes such turmoil and nobody is going to change other people's beliefs so I've finally got over it. I most definitely understand where you're coming from but, as you can see, many-a-person's underwear gets into a tight wad even if it is a general statement. I have an older cousin [mid-50s] who was diagnosed with skin cancer about three years ago. His wife is always keeps people updated with his situation but every single one of her e-mails are saturated with God, God, God. I am glad that they can find solace in their vision of a god but it becomes very distasteful when it takes over the entire e-mail. I have to bite my tonge every time I receive one of her sickly sweet diatribes. What is more disturbing is that she never gives any of the doctors credit ... it is always God. One day, we wrote a response just to get it off our chest but we did not send the e-mail. Now, I just let it roll off my shoulders [sort of] but it is not easy. It is especially annoying to me that, before his diagnosis, they were never so blatantly religious. So, essentially, they have shown themselves to be emergency-room Christians. Common, but sad. Or sick. "I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief." -- Gerry Spence LoriC4/5 COMPLETE, 26 years postTucson, Arizona
Re: [QUAD-L] Wayward Spouses
I have. 6 years post and no physical contact at all. We still live in the same house but it's only a matter of time before that comes to an end. Jim
[QUAD-L] Wayward Spouses
Over the years I've noticed that spouses respond to our paralysis by either being 110% supportive or by checking out. That's tough. When I became paralyzed, my husband checked out. He lives in the basement and I sometimes don't see him for days. It took a long time to adjust to a situation I didn't want. Then there's the absence of touch. With ALS I can feel EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE... I just can't move. So sex COULD be great but I lost my partner. Has anyone else had to deal with this? Sandy
[QUAD-L] Religion_Angie and others
Angie, [and others] I have been on this list since 1995 and we have had numerous discussions on religion. They, of course, got into very heated debates. Anything with controversy stirs up people's emotions as we just saw with the stem cell example. Politics discussions have come and gone here just as rapidly. But they never fail to come around again at some point in time - the nature of the beast of mankind. They say [whoever THEY are] religion, politics and sex are topics to stay away from. The first two I can definitely understand but I think it would be more interesting to talk about the latter here!!! Maybe it is a rare occurrence for many members and that is the reason. It usually happens about once a year when religion is brought up. I remember one time that the posts went on for weeks and weeks. I always find it interesting to discuss religion and such but it causes such turmoil and nobody is going to change other people's beliefs so I've finally got over it. I most definitely understand where you're coming from but, as you can see, many-a-person's underwear gets into a tight wad even if it is a general statement. I have an older cousin [mid-50s] who was diagnosed with skin cancer about three years ago. His wife is always keeps people updated with his situation but every single one of her e-mails are saturated with God, God, God. I am glad that they can find solace in their vision of a god but it becomes very distasteful when it takes over the entire e-mail. I have to bite my tonge every time I receive one of her sickly sweet diatribes. What is more disturbing is that she never gives any of the doctors credit ... it is always God. One day, we wrote a response just to get it off our chest but we did not send the e-mail. Now, I just let it roll off my shoulders [sort of] but it is not easy. It is especially annoying to me that, before his diagnosis, they were never so blatantly religious. So, essentially, they have shown themselves to be emergency-room Christians. Common, but sad. Or sick. "I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief." -- Gerry Spence Lori C4/5 COMPLETE, 26 years post Tucson, Arizona
[QUAD-L] List members
Unfortunately, no, there is not. I have asked the list owner this question before and the answer was no. Lori ---Original Message--- From: Angelique Novak Date: 7/27/2006 9:26:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Angelique and Sandy- Female Possers opps Posters Is there a member list for this group? Maybe one that lists gender, just so we know how many women are here? -Angie
[QUAD-L] Mark IV breathing pacemaker
Is anyone using a breathing pacemaker as an alternative to mechanical ventilator? I was just checking the web site and it looks interesting. http://www.averybiomedical.com/ Jim Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://makoa.org/jim disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.org Please Help: Inkjet & Toner Cartridge Recycling
Re: [QUAD-L] Angelique and Sandy- Female Possers opps Posters
I'm another girl on the List...not sure what number..I lost count..but I know I'm not the last.. GinaAngelique Novak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a member list for this group? Maybe one that lists gender, just so we know how many women are here? -Angie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am number 13, or have I lost count? Dana
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy, etc
I agree Sandyand I was not trying to be Rude to Alan OR Angie-but the founder of this list has ASKED several times to keep POLITICS and RELIGION to a minimum, and I understand why because in the years I have been on this list there has been many fights over these subjects that can offend a lot of people plus..take up endless pages on topics many don't care forand there are HUNDREDS of political and religious chat rooms and blog sites on the web. ( Alan sorry to hear that about your wife, things like that are heartbreaking.I have been thru that type of thing myself before I ever got paralyzed. ) Dan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan, I think the point was that it seemed that you and Angelique were carrying on a private conversation about a topic most of us don't subscribe to. Don't be sensitive, just discuss it between the two of you if you see no other posts except you two. Getting off on tangents can be boring. Alan, we value your experience and input. I'm sorry to hear about your wife. What will happen? Sandy
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy
Like they say there are 2 things that are usually not good to discuss religion and politics, there is just to much controversy about it...but SEX is okay coz most people like it and want it.. Even if some are deprived..like me.. Gina( there are other things but that came to mind first) Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ALAN AND THE SAME TO YOU AND ANGIE..THIS IS NOT AN ATHIEST ROOM, PLEASE QUIT PUSHING YOUR UNBELIEF IN GOD IN HERE, I FOR ONE KNOW THERE IS A GOD, BUT I'M NOT FORCING YOU TO READ ABOUT IT ON THE QUAD LIST CONTINUALLY THANK YOU BOTH DANALAN LABARR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i am not the born againer. so don't be asking or explaining religion to me. i am like angie. i did my time when i was young and i have my very own religion now. it has a congregation of one. alan- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy"born again" to me means "please forgive all my previous sins - I REALLY want to go to heaven - not hell, or jail, and I certainly don't want anybody getting even for what I did" wow - I guess I am born again too. O'C In a message dated 7/26/2006 1:30:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just explain that you can't be born again because born again christians get e/thing they want and your spine won't heal no matter what you believe or what BS healer you go to. I can't be born again because I believe in what jesus said about rich folks. Frankly the born again thing always comes across to me like the pyramid scheeme of christian cults. Beware false prophetsCareful of groups that already know who is going to heaven and hell and why. john In a message dated 7/25/2006 7:42:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i loved "dark shadows". i was a teenager from the farmlands and foothills of nj. stop laughing. i loved vampires and particularl barnabus collins.i am totally with you on the religious issue. one of my sons has a very hard time with me as he is born again.the voice activated works really well with you or you with it or together. ok, Angie.alan Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy, etc
Alan, I think the point was that it seemed that you and Angelique were carrying on a private conversation about a topic most of us don't subscribe to. Don't be sensitive, just discuss it between the two of you if you see no other posts except you two. Getting off on tangents can be boring. Alan, we value your experience and input. I'm sorry to hear about your wife. What will happen? Sandy
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy
i found out my wife's boyfriend spent the night with her in my house. and i found out that it wasn't the first time. she yelld and screamed at me before she stormed out this morning. now i get yelled at by some gfgf. don't need it. good bye. - Original Message - From: Danny Hearn To: ALAN LABARR ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy ALAN AND THE SAME TO YOU AND ANGIE..THIS IS NOT AN ATHIEST ROOM, PLEASE QUIT PUSHING YOUR UNBELIEF IN GOD IN HERE, I FOR ONE KNOW THERE IS A GOD, BUT I'M NOT FORCING YOU TO READ ABOUT IT ON THE QUAD LIST CONTINUALLY THANK YOU BOTH DANALAN LABARR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i am not the born againer. so don't be asking or explaining religion to me. i am like angie. i did my time when i was young and i have my very own religion now. it has a congregation of one. alan - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy "born again" to me means "please forgive all my previous sins - I REALLY want to go to heaven - not hell, or jail, and I certainly don't want anybody getting even for what I did" wow - I guess I am born again too. O'C In a message dated 7/26/2006 1:30:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just explain that you can't be born again because born again christians get e/thing they want and your spine won't heal no matter what you believe or what BS healer you go to. I can't be born again because I believe in what jesus said about rich folks. Frankly the born again thing always comes across to me like the pyramid scheeme of christian cults. Beware false prophetsCareful of groups that already know who is going to heaven and hell and why. john In a message dated 7/25/2006 7:42:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i loved "dark shadows". i was a teenager from the farmlands and foothills of nj. stop laughing. i loved vampires and particularl barnabus collins.i am totally with you on the religious issue. one of my sons has a very hard time with me as he is born again.the voice activated works really well with you or you with it or together. ok, Angie.alan Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967
Re: [QUAD-L] Angelique and Sandy- Female Possers opps Posters
Is there a member list for this group? Maybe one that lists gender, just so we know how many women are here? -Angie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am number 13, or have I lost count? Dana
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: changing the subject line
Sorry, Dan. I wasn't trying to force anything on anyone, just discussing. I thought that's what people do, discus things. Seriously, I wasn't trying to change anyone's mind on religion. Whatever works for you, use it! BTW, if what Alan and I discus offends you, I suggest you don't read our posts. Avoid the topic, save yourself the aggravation. -Angie Danny Hearn wrote: ALAN AND THE SAME TO YOU AND ANGIE..THIS IS NOT AN ATHIEST ROOM, PLEASE QUIT PUSHING YOUR UNBELIEF IN GOD IN HERE, I FOR ONE KNOW THERE IS A GOD, BUT I'M NOT FORCING YOU TO READ ABOUT IT ON THE QUAD LIST CONTINUALLY THANK YOU BOTH DAN ALAN LABARR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i am not the born againer. so don't be asking or explaining religion to me. i am like angie. i did my time when i was young and i have my very own religion now. it has a congregation of one. alan - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy "born again" to me means "please forgive all my previous sins - I REALLY want to go to heaven - not hell, or jail, and I certainly don't want anybody getting even for what I did"wow - I guess I am born again too.O'C In a message dated 7/26/2006 1:30:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just explain that you can't be born again because born again christians get e/thing they want and your spine won't heal no matter what you believe or what BS healer you go to. I can't be born again because I believe in what jesus said about rich folks. Frankly the born again thing always comes across to me like the pyramid scheeme of christian cults. Beware false prophetsCareful of groups that already know who is going to heaven and hell and why. john In a message dated 7/25/2006 7:42:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i loved "dark shadows". i was a teenager from the farmlands and foothills of nj. stop laughing. i loved vampires and particularl barnabus collins. i am totally with you on the religious issue. one of my sons has a very hard time with me as he is born again. the voice activated works really well with you or you with it or together. ok, Angie. alan Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy
ALAN AND THE SAME TO YOU AND ANGIE..THIS IS NOT AN ATHIEST ROOM, PLEASE QUIT PUSHING YOUR UNBELIEF IN GOD IN HERE, I FOR ONE KNOW THERE IS A GOD, BUT I'M NOT FORCING YOU TO READ ABOUT IT ON THE QUAD LIST CONTINUALLY THANK YOU BOTH DANALAN LABARR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i am not the born againer. so don't be asking or explaining religion to me. i am like angie. i did my time when i was young and i have my very own religion now. it has a congregation of one. alan- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy"born again" to me means "please forgive all my previous sins - I REALLY want to go to heaven - not hell, or jail, and I certainly don't want anybody getting even for what I did" wow - I guess I am born again too. O'C In a message dated 7/26/2006 1:30:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just explain that you can't be born again because born again christians get e/thing they want and your spine won't heal no matter what you believe or what BS healer you go to. I can't be born again because I believe in what jesus said about rich folks. Frankly the born again thing always comes across to me like the pyramid scheeme of christian cults. Beware false prophetsCareful of groups that already know who is going to heaven and hell and why. john In a message dated 7/25/2006 7:42:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i loved "dark shadows". i was a teenager from the farmlands and foothills of nj. stop laughing. i loved vampires and particularl barnabus collins.i am totally with you on the religious issue. one of my sons has a very hard time with me as he is born again.the voice activated works really well with you or you with it or together. ok, Angie.alan Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967
Re: [QUAD-L] Angelique and Sandy- Female Possers opps Posters
I am number 13, or have I lost count? Dana
[QUAD-L] Re: The Tea Cup
W- I'll bring the candles, incense, Ouija board, some abled hands, and a lighter. You bring the booze! We'll party like rock stars, and maybe contact a few from beyond! -Angie P.S. Too sensitive? You've got to be kidding! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/27/2006 9:33:38 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We're not clay, Silas. I see how this could help regular people going through only emotional issues, not physical, though. -Angie Geez Angie, you are too sensitive. (lol)I want to party with you on New Year's... at the cemetery.What time does the party start?W
[QUAD-L] silent friend
In a message dated 7/27/2006 9:34:13 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They are going to "step up the pain and muscle relaxer meds". If someone broke in to this house,,forget the china,and the silver. Go for the drugs and sell them for the street value !! Kathy in Mississippi You are counted too and I hope that you continue to post. Posting, is suppose to make you stop and think. Thinking before posting also helps deter some pain, cuz you want to respond to the poster with a response. So keep on thinking and posting. Its also good therapy. Best Wishes W
[QUAD-L] The Tea Cup
In a message dated 7/27/2006 9:33:38 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We're not clay, Silas. I see how this could help regular people going through only emotional issues, not physical, though. -Angie Geez Angie, you are too sensitive. (lol) I want to party with you on New Year's... at the cemetery. What time does the party start? W
Re: [QUAD-L] Fw: The Tea Cup
We're not clay, Silas. I see how this could help regular people going through only emotional issues, not physical, though. -Angie Silas wrote: Sounds like me being pounded a slap and proded and poked! - Original Message - From: Cheryl Sizemore To: Silas ShelburneSent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:41 AMSubject: FW: The Tea Cup Love this story or not - you will not be able to have tea in a tea cup again without thinking of this.. There was a couple who took a trip to England to shop in a beautiful antique store to celebrate their 25th wedding anniversary. They both liked antiques and pottery, and especially teacups. Spotting an exceptional cup, they asked "May we see that? We've never seen a cup quite so beautiful." As the lady handed it to them, suddenly the teacup spoke, "You don't understand. I have not always been a teacup. There was a time when I was just a lump of red clay. My master took me and rolled me pounded and patted me over and over and I yelled out, "Don't do that." "I don't like it!" "Let me alone," but he only smiled, and gently said; "Not yet!" Then. WHAM! I was placed on a spinning wheel and suddenly I was spun around and around and around. Stop it! I'm getting so dizzy! I'm going to be sick" I screamed. But the master only nodded and said, quietly; 'Not yet.' He spun me and poked and prodded and bent me out of shape to suit himself and then .. Then he put me in the oven. I never felt such heat. I yelled and knocked and pounded at the door. "Help! Get me out of here!" I could see him through the opening and I could read his lips as he shook his head from side to side, 'Not yet'. When I thought I couldn't bear it another minute, the door opened. He carefully took me out and put me on the shelf, and I began to cool. Oh, that felt so good! "Ah, this is much better," I thought. But, after I cooled he picked me up and he brushed and painted me all over. The fumes were horrible. I thought I would gag. 'Oh, please,Stop it, Stop, I cried. He only shook his head and said. 'Not yet!'. Then suddenly he put me back in to the oven. Only it was not like the first one. This was twice as hot and I just knew I would suffocate. I begged. I pleaded. I screamed. I cried. I was convinced I would never make it. I was ready to give up. Just then the door opened and he took me out and again placed me on the shelf, where I cooled and waited and waited, wondering "What's he going to do to me next?" <>An hour later he handed me a mirror and said 'Look at yourself.' And I did. I said, "That's not me; that couldn't be me. It's beautiful. I'm beautiful!" Quietly he spoke: "I want you to remember, then,' he said, 'I know it hurt to be rolled and pounded and patted, but had I just left you alone, you'd have dried up. I know it made you dizzy to spin around on the wheel, but if I had stopped, you would have crumbled. I know it hurt and it was hot and disagreeable in the oven, but if I hadn't put you there, you would have cracked. I know the fumes were bad when I brushed and painted you all over, but if I hadn't done that, you never would have hardened. You would not have had any color in your life. If I hadn't put you back in that second oven, you wouldn't have survived for long because the hardness would not have held. Now you are a finished product. Now you are what I had in mind when I first began with you." The moral of this story is this: God knows what He's doing for each of us. He is the potter, and we are His clay. He will mold us and make us, and expose us to just enough pressures of just the right kinds that we may be made into a flawless piece of work to fulfill His good, pleasing and perfect will. So when life seems hard, and you are being pounded and patted and pushed almost beyond endurance; when your world seems to be spinning out of control; when you feel like you are in a fiery furnace of trials; when life seems to "stink", try this Brew a cup of your favorite tea in your prettiest tea cup, sit down and think on this story and then, have a little talk with the Potter.
[QUAD-L] silent friend
I don't know if I am counted on the list as one of the women who speak out or not. I do go through spells when I speak more than others. This usually depends on the subject being talked about and how many others are already discussing it. I don't see the need to jump in if I think enough action is happening. But,,I am here,,lurking on the sidelines,,soaking up all the info. I would like to say like so many others I have learned so much more common sense advice here than from the pros. Tomorrow I go for my botox in my legs. Before anyone ask.. For me, yes it does help.. I get Most of them around my knees, calves, ankles, and instep. Hurts like hell while I get them in my feet but it does help the tension and will relax my big toe and ankle. I was at my pulmo doc yesterday and he out right refused me for surgery or a block or any kind for surgery on my feet. He said my muscles pushing out air of lung were too weak. . He wouldn't chance me becoming too relaxed when we had a option. They are going to "step up the pain and muscle relaxer meds". If someone broke in to this house,,forget the china,and the silver. Go for the drugs and sell them for the street value !! Kathy in Mississippi --- Begin Message --- Carolyn, God bless you --->"used to" from the son of an English teacher. O'C In a message dated 7/26/2006 1:20:27 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That should make 10 women on the list..I'm not used to posting but will try to post a little more.Carolyn> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2006/07/25 Tue PM 08:47:04 EDT> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Angelique and Sandy> > > Oops, er um... that makes 9 women, not females that post on the list, lol.> W> > > In a message dated 7/25/2006 2:08:14 PM Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:> > W said > > "...btw, there are 8 women that post here on a regualr basis."> > Thanks for noticing us! I've not said anything much lately because I believe > it's pointless to argue politics or religion but I'm still here. :o)> > > Stephanie> Swamp Sista > _http://360.yahoo.com/curly_top35_ (http://360.yahoo.com/curly_top35) > > > > > > Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967 --- End Message ---
Re: [QUAD-L] Angelique and Sandy--another female
In a message dated 7/26/2006 10:14:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Female here also. I am not a quad, and I do not post often so maybe I do not count : ) Penny Count ? Count ? Did I hear someone ask about the Count? Count Drakula from Kids TV LOL. W
[QUAD-L] Angelique and Sandy- Female Possers opps Posters
In a message dated 7/26/2006 4:29:24 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not reading email every day, but I'm here too! That makes 11...Julie Eleven, Ha! I feel like Count Drakula from Kids TV. Thanks Julie. I'm beginning to think that there are more women posting now or is that just my imagination? W
Re: [QUAD-L] Angelique and Sandy
In a message dated 7/26/2006 3:12:00 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That should make 10 women on the list..I'm not used to posting but will try to post a little more.Carolyn 10 and growing. thanks Carolyn! W
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy
Change the subject line! -pet peeve rant - Original Message - From: "ALAN LABARR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Angelique Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Silas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Quad List" Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy > yes, that he is. catch this latest one of his if you can. i have seen it 5 > times this month. > > alan > > - Original Message - > From: "Angelique Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "ALAN LABARR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Silas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Quad List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:03 PM > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy > > > > I haven't seen that, but am familiar with Lewis Black. He's funny, if not > > too > > caffeinated! > > -Angie > > > > ALAN LABARR wrote: > > > >> ever see the HBO Special "Red, White and Screwed" by Lewis Black? He > >> touches on this topic, Angie. > >> > >> alan > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Angelique Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "Silas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Quad List" > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 2:47 PM > >> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy > >> > >> >As a kid, I thought that, too. I didn't know any better! But I > >> > questioned > >> > at it at age 7. I don't remember what prompted that, I was still > >> > normal, > >> > and > >> > nothing major had happened to anybody I knew. But, after questioning > >> > it > >> > to > >> > myself in my head, I felt different that night at bedtime prayers. > >> > Like, > >> > abandoned. So, who knows what that was all about. Everybody's going > >> > to > >> > learn > >> > someday, right? > >> >Now, I just don't believe in any of that, at all. I believe it was > >> > all > >> > fabricated and twisted to control the population and get their money, > >> > way > >> > back > >> > when what I consider Christian Mythology, and the mythical Jesus were > >> > created by > >> > some rather clever entrepreneurs. Look how long their business has > >> > lasted. I > >> > want to take that business class!! > >> > -Angie > >> > > >> > Silas wrote: > >> > > >> >> Angelique, > >> >> Before my injury I really believed that there was a kind loving God, > >> >> don't > >> >> get me wrong I still pray but I get so angry I have trouble with > >> >> keeping > >> >> the > >> >> faith. I can't believe that a loving God would make any of his so > >> >> called > >> >> children suffer through this every day, I don't see his reasoning at > >> >> all! > >> >> Silas > >> >> > >> >> - Original Message - > >> >> From: "Angelique Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> To: "ALAN LABARR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> Cc: "Quad List" > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:26 AM > >> >> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy > >> > >
Re: [QUAD-L] Angelique and Sandy--another female
zeraw, Thanks for the howdy. Penny
