RE: [QUAD-L] Quad gut possible cure
There's been some discussion @ the TENS at www.sciwire.com Some have had improvement _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 6:15 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quad gut possible cure In a message dated 7/27/2007 5:09:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anybody tried one of these slendertones? The FDA issued a statement two years ago on the benefit or lack of benefits by anyone using a device very similar to the slendertone. Personally, I would think that you'd get the same results with a well placed TENS unit. If you are really interested in this product and what it will do for YOU, have a certified Physical Therapist discuss the merits with you. Granted, it just might work, but I don't think so. But the idea of an old TENS unit might be the answer. Best Wishes _ Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 .
RE: [QUAD-L] Voc rehab
Check and see if you have a One Stop Center under the dept. of Labor for jobs _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Voc rehab In a message dated 7/27/2007 5:22:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't expect them to find you a job. One of the topics I've learned is they do have particular companies (if you will) who will accept the handicap and try to find others that will. Diane _ Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 .
[QUAD-L] Re: [scilist] Re: Fwd: Fw: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities
Hi Dana, I agree with you. It is another good reason that anyone receiving benefits from the Government, understand all of the rules of the Program(s) they are on. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This does not sound good for anyone receiving HCBC. What is anybody else's take on this? Data - Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS Health and wellness in the workplace Health wellness product Center for health and wellness Health and wellness center Health and wellness Healthy Eating A Yahoo! resource for families on how to eat healthy Sitebuilder Build a web site quickly easily with Sitebuilder. Green Groups on Yahoo! Groups share your passion for the planet. . __,_._,___ From: ADAPT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: commchoice-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:52:26 -0500 Case management plays a vital role for many people moving out of nursing homes, as well as many people with significant disabilities who may not have informal supports. This action could result in harmful discrimination against people with more significant disabilities. - Original Message - From: Bob Kafka Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 12:24 PM Subject: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities Dear Community Services Supporters: CMS has been developing new Case Management regulations over the last few months in response to some of the changes in the Deficit Reduction Act. Rumor has it they will be published as Interim Final Rules in the beginning of August. Word has been spreading, though nothing specific, that the new rules will roll back all the progressive advances CMS allowed in Case Management and Targeted Case Management that had been allowed for States to use to get folks out of institutions since the Olmstead letters in 2000. In addition there will be major changes in how Case Management will be paid for in HCBS waivers. If these rumors are accurate it appears CMS (maybe directed by OMB) will not only be undercutting their own MFP initiative but also the whole New Freedom Initiative and Olmstead initiatives. What is ironic is that many in the community thought CMS was going to give States more flexibility because getting and keeping folks out of institutions needs intensive service coordination and Case Management and TCM are two ways States can get help in paying for that service. ACTION NEEDED: 1. Spread the word in your community that these rules are coming out and when they are published we need a loud outcry from aging and disability advocates; 2. Contact your Medicaid Director and tell them you will support them in their opposition to these new rules; 3. Contact Dennis Smith, HHS/CMS Medicaid Director by e-mailing his Executive Assist Florence Jackson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your Action is needed today and throughout next week!! PLS DISTRIBUTE FOR AN INSTITUTION FREE AMERICA, The ADAPT Community NATIONAL ADAPT MAILING LIST - Adapt Community Choice Act List http://www.adapt.org
Re: [QUAD-L] HELP..............
I have a braun and wouldn't have another one. I have a chrysler 06 and have 34,000 miles on it, 11,000 is low milage. Cullen - Original Message - From: Papillon MFmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: QUAD-LISTmailto:QUAD-LIST@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] HELP.. VMI conversion verse Braun conversion can anyone tell me which is the best? and do you consider 11,000 miles on a 06 ChryslerVan too many miles for a year? Still shopping for a Van! Marie-France
[QUAD-L] Sam The Bellhop - Best card trick you will ever see
this entertained me for quite a while Get ready to be amazed. _Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C96Hc1m7pRU_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C96Hc1m7pRU) Well, I don't know if it's quite the best card trick I've ever seen but it's definitely one of the best. It was performed by magician, Bill Malone. YouTube lists some other mini-videos showing other card tricks that Bill Malone did. You will enjoy these! ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[QUAD-L] Van
Hey MaryFrance, It sounds like 11,000miles is great on an 06. I have a Braun Conversion Dodge Grand Caravan 95 with 70,000miles, it's been a really good second hand vehicle. It gets great gas mileage. Lindaf
[QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION
HEY GANG AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I BOUGHT A MINI VAN LAST YEAR SO I COULD GET IT MODIFIED TO DRIVE. I WENT THRU VOC REHAB WHICH HAS BEEN BEEN VERY HELPFUL (WHEELCHAIR AGREE W/ YOU ABOUT DOING THE LEGWORK) . I TOOK MY VAN TO THE DEALER ON MAY 7 AND WAS TOLD 4/6 WEEKS. MONDAY WILL BE 12 WEEKS. MY VAN ALREADY HAD AN IMS CONVERSION. SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS IT SAT AT THE DEALER FOR A WEEK BEFORE IT WAS SENT TO HOUSTON. WAS TOLD BY PEOPLE IN HOUSTON IT WAS BEING TEST DRIVEN AND WOULD BE DELIVERED TO DEALER WEEK OF JULY 2. THEN WAS TOLD BY DEALER DUE TO FLOODING HOUSTON WAS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING IT OUT. I TALKED TO HOUSTON AND WAS TOLD MY VAN WAS READY JULY 2 BUT NEW EQUIPMENT CAME OUT SO THEY CHOSE TO UPGRADE IT ALL TO THE LATEST AND GREATEST. SOUNDS LIKE A LINE OF B.S. HUH? SO, VAN WAS SUPPOSE TO BE AT DEALER JULY 20. IT WAS STILL IN HOUSTON MONDAY AT 1PM SO MY APPT TO HAVE LOCKS INSTALLED TUESDAY - CANCELLED. THEY GOT VAN TUESDAY SO I GET UP AT 4:30 TO BE AT DEALER 75 MILES AWAY AT 8AM. I GOT THERE, GOT OUT OF CHAIR, WAITED 1 1/2 HRS TO BE TOLD TEY DIDN'T HAVE CORRECT EZ LOCKS. ALSO, MY DOOR WON'T OPEN AUTOMATICALLY AND VAN ISN'T KNEELING- ARRIVED FROM HOUSTON THAT WAY. THEY HAD NEW MODULE AND SAID THEY WOULD FIX IT THURSDAY. THEY REORDERED, GOT UP AT 5:30 TO BE THER BY 10AM YESTYERDAY. LOCKS CAME IN WHICH WAS A PLUS - GOT THAT INSTALLED. SR TECH TELLS ME IT'S NOT THE MODULE BUT A WIRE/WIRES WERE CUT IN HOUSTON. HE'S GOING TO TROUBLESHOOT AND OTHER TECH IS GOING INSTALL EZ LOCKS IN VAN. MY DAD AND I ARE LEAVING THE SERVICE AREA AND HE SAYS THERE'S YOUR DRIVER SEAT - WONDER WHERE THE PASSENGER SEAT IS. YES, YOU GUESSED IT, NO FREAKING SEAT! NO ONE KNOWS WHERE IT IS - WE ASSUME HOUSTON. WE GET BACK TO MOBILITY OFFICE AND A MAN PULLS UP IN A LEXUS AND WANTS HAND CONTROLS. I GO UP TO SERVICE TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND THEY PULLED TECH OFF MY VAN TO INSTALL HAND CONTROLS ON THE LEXUS THAT WAS BOUGHT IN TULSA THAT MORNING! NO APPT - JUST HAD THE $$ SO THE SR TECH HAS TO QUIT TRYING TO GET MY DOOR TO WORK AND INSTALL MY EZ LOCKS. I WAS THERE OVER 7 HRS. I'M SUPPOSE TO GET MY VAN TUESDAY - YEAH RIGHT! DOOR ISN'T WORKING AND WITH NO PASSENGER SEAT BECAUSE THEY ASSUME IT'S IN HOUSTON! OH, AND SR TECH IS ON VACATION NEXT WEEK. WHEELCHAIR, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT CARLOS/IDS/FREEDOM WHEELS IN HOUSTON? ANY ADVICE FOLKS BUT RIGHT NOW I WANT TO CHOKE SOMEONE! NICKI C5/6
Re: [QUAD-L] Quad gut possible cure
Speaking as a quad that has very limited sensation in the abdominal area, I do wonder if instead of a tens unit or one of those wing ding belly deflators that the FDA dismissed as useless, what if you used a crank magneto. I'm not sure how many milliamps a person can take without burning flesh, but if anything will get you doing situps, that machine should do it! Lets be realistic, its not voltage, its amperage that causes that electrical shock that burns your tastebuds. I've heard people say they get relief with a tens unit but I've heard plasebos are pretty effective too. Whatever you do, good luck. john - Original Message From: Elizabeth Treston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:35:47 AM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Quad gut possible cure There's been some discussion @ the TENS at www.sciwire.com Some have had improvement From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 6:15 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quad gut possible cure In a message dated 7/27/2007 5:09:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anybody tried one of these slendertones? The FDA issued a statement two years ago on the benefit or lack of benefits by anyone using a device very similar to the slendertone. Personally, I would think that you'd get the same results with a well placed TENS unit. If you are really interested in this product and what it will do for YOU, have a certified Physical Therapist discuss the merits with you. Granted, it just might work, but I don't think so. But the idea of an old TENS unit might be the answer. Best Wishes Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [scilist] Re: Fwd: Fw: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities
I think financial cutbacks are in the pipeline because of the tax cuts for all the poor rich folks and the ballooning of corporate welfare. I don't think an attack on MFP is imminent because it saves money. The fact is, if we all hired our own aides and paid for all the drugs that PLAN D FROM OUTER SPACE doesn't cover, the government would save tons of money as opposed to forcing people into nursing homes that cost a freakin fortune and are a primary souce of perscription drugs for people like rush limbaugh. I'm not saying close the nursing homes, there are too many folks dependant on them. I think if we eliminate an institution, we should begin with career politicians. Parties should be fined according to the foul balls they help get elected. Can anyone read the declaration of independance and not get the urge to overthrow the mess in Washington? john ps. Sorry, I got political - Original Message From: David K. Kelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 10:24:16 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: [scilist] Re: Fwd: Fw: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities Hi Dana, I agree with you. It is another good reason that anyone receiving benefits from the Government, understand all of the rules of the Program(s) they are on. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This does not sound good for anyone receiving HCBC. What is anybody else's take on this? Data Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS Health and wellness in the workplace Health wellness product Center for health and wellness Health and wellness center Health and wellness Healthy Eating A Yahoo! resource for families on how to eat healthy Sitebuilder Build a web site quickly easily with Sitebuilder. Green Groups on Yahoo! Groups share your passion for the planet.. __,_._,___ From: ADAPT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: commchoice-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:52:26 -0500 Case management plays a vital role for many people moving out of nursing homes, as well as many people with significant disabilities who may not have informal supports. This action could result in harmful discrimination against people with more significant disabilities. - Original Message - From: Bob Kafka Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 12:24 PM Subject: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities Dear Community Services Supporters: CMS has been developing new Case Management regulations over the last few months in response to some of the changes in the Deficit Reduction Act. Rumor has it they will be published as Interim Final Rules in the beginning of August. Word has been spreading, though nothing specific, that the new rules will roll back all the progressive advances CMS allowed in Case Management and Targeted Case Management that had been allowed for States to use to get folks out of institutions since the Olmstead letters in 2000. In addition there will be major changes in how Case Management will be paid for in HCBS waivers. If these rumors are accurate it appears CMS (maybe directed by OMB) will not only be undercutting their own MFP initiative but also the whole New Freedom Initiative and Olmstead initiatives. What is ironic is that many in the community thought CMS was going to give States more flexibility because getting and keeping folks out of institutions needs intensive service coordination and Case Management and TCM are two ways States can get help in paying for that service. ACTION NEEDED: 1. Spread the word in your community that these rules are coming out and when they are published we need a loud outcry from aging and disability advocates; 2. Contact your Medicaid Director and tell them you will support them in their opposition to these new rules; 3. Contact Dennis Smith, HHS/CMS Medicaid Director by e-mailing his Executive Assist Florence Jackson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your Action is needed today and throughout next week!! PLS DISTRIBUTE FOR AN INSTITUTION FREE AMERICA, The ADAPT Community NATIONAL ADAPT MAILING LIST - Adapt Community Choice Act List http://www.adapt.org Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
[QUAD-L] fire
Interesting day! As you I had my batteries replaced and this morning I get in my chair and I went to tilt in my chair and it started smoking and then flames and scared the out of me. He put some wires where they were cut when I tilted and my chair caught fire. Lucky I wasn’t alone or I wouldn’t be telling this story, I would be burnt up! My chair tech is an idiot! Mark Jackson RollinOn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/923 - Release Date: 7/27/2007 6:01 PM
RE: [QUAD-L] fire
OMG!! _ From: RollinOn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 2:15 PM To: Quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] fire Interesting day! As you I had my batteries replaced and this morning I get in my chair and I went to tilt in my chair and it started smoking and then flames and scared the out of me. He put some wires where they were cut when I tilted and my chair caught fire. Lucky I wasn't alone or I wouldn't be telling this story, I would be burnt up! My chair tech is an idiot! Mark Jackson RollinOn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/923 - Release Date: 7/27/2007 6:01 PM
RE: [QUAD-L] fire
That tech should be fired. Is the chair still useable?
RE: [QUAD-L] fire
Yes he should and I should've known better because he had to ask me how to get to the batteries and then wouldn't work on it in the same room where I could watch. He took it outside where it was around 95 that day and I told him to work inside where it was cool but he insisted. I don't know if the chair will work but it was put out with a big glass of water so probably not. Mark Jackson RollinOn -Original Message- From: KK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 3:27 PM To: Elizabeth Treston; 'RollinOn'; Quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fire That tech should be fired. Is the chair still useable? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/923 - Release Date: 7/27/2007 6:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/923 - Release Date: 7/27/2007 6:01 PM
Re: [QUAD-L] fire
Have you considered a lawsuit? These techs and the companies they work for charge the insurance companies and the government big bucks for what they do. You could have died or been severely injured. Raise some Hell man or this will just happen again to someone else and the outcome may not be so pretty. Dan At 01:14 PM 7/28/2007 -0500, RollinOn said something that elicited my response: Interesting day! As you I had my batteries replaced and this morning I get in my chair and I went to tilt in my chair and it started smoking and then flames and scared the out of me. He put some wires where they were cut when I tilted and my chair caught fire. Lucky I wasn t alone or I wouldn t be telling this story, I would be burnt up! My chair tech is an idiot! Mark Jackson RollinOn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/923 - Release Date: 7/27/2007 6:01 PM
[QUAD-L] VOC REHAB class action lawsuit?
Anybody know how we can file a class action lawsuit for all the problems we all have had with VOC. REHAB.? I have tape recordings of most of my meetings (to meet my inability to take notes due to my Difability). VocRehab furnished me a replacement standing wheelchair in 2000. Only to bring the old Levo they declared a LEMON back 9 months later. It was supposed to have been rebuilt with a 90 satisfaction guarantee, WHICH THEY WOULD'NT HONOR! I refused to accept this old chair back, but my counselor, his suprvisor, and a DME I had already written Voc. Rehab, that I didn't want to deal with. Which is written in their handbook as a right we are supposed to have, to decide who we want to furnish our equipment. Threatened me on recording that either I accept this old chair back or they would take both chairs and load tem in their pickup and leave me with nothing. It was a good thing I wasn't able to hold my pistol or that outcome would have been different. When I was first injured in a rehab. hospital. Voc. Rehab. furnished an electric tilt and space chair. Voc. Rehab. informed my family they intended to put me in a nursing home 20 miles away. To be bussed each day for 1 hour of therapy. My mom decided to take me to their house to live, and when her husband told the counselor. The conselor told him if they took me away, he would take the new wheelchair out from under me. The conselor told Bob the REHAB., DME, NURSING HOME all scratch each others backs. So either we play their game or I lose that wheelchair. That was what happened and Mom Bob bought a manual chair for me to use. Then 9 mnths later after moving to mom's Voc. Rehab. bought this old Levo in 1997. Fortunately one of my good friends dad was the supervisor over the Shawnee, OK. district. He conveniently owned a DME in a town over 60 miles away. That was how I ended up with this old Levo standing heelchair to begin with. Now most incredbly in 2004 I took Voc. Rehab. to a Fair Hearing (NOT). Fortunately I won that Hearing and Voc. Rehab was ordered to replace this old Levo. But they appealed that decision and it was overturned against me. I had to represent myself because none of the Federally funded agencies, that are supposed to help represent me would do so in a good way. They actually wanted me to let them load 7 years of boxes of files from every agency since my crash. So they could go through each box to find files dealing with the wheelchair. Obviously I knew better and didn't want those records to end up in the landfill dump. Their have been too many of us done this way, surely somebody will help all of us get a big settlement. To make up for the pain, torment, stress, and everything else. Especially the life I have missed out on during the past 10 years. While trying to get services that have been promising repeatedly by Voc. Rehab. on recordings. Let's gather together and finally become a UNITED FORCE TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY! Glory to GOD Sincerely, Jim Rice I have a dream that one day soon, all people with physical challenges will be treated equally. I will not let things I am not able to do yet, Stop what the LORD I can. !!! CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or the information it contains is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error. Please immediately notify the sender and destroy the original transmission and its attachments. Incorrect delivery of this transmittal does not constitute waiver of any applicable privilege. If you have received this transmission in error. Please immediately notify the sender and destroy the original transmission and its attachments.
Re: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION
- Original Message - From: Quadskydiver To: Nichole Rohling Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION Nicky, I'm sorry you've had so much problems. Their is a law to protect a purchaser of large ticket items such as a home, car, etc. As far as I understand it, you have like 30 days to get a refund. You might check into this and hopefully be able to wash your hands of that whole mess. Gory to GOD Sincerely your friend , Jim I have a dream that one day soon, all people with physical challenges will be treated equally. I will not let things I am not able to do yet, Stop what the LORD I can. !!! - Original Message - From: Nichole Rohling To: Quadskydiver Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION NOPE, NEWBY VANCE - Original Message - From: Quadskydiver To: Nichole Rohling Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION Nikki, I hope you didn't get your conversion through Hanicap Aides of Okla. near I-35. i HAD TROUBLE SIMILAR TO YOURS. Jim Rice I have a dream that one day soon, all people with physical challenges will be treated equally. I will not let things I am not able to do yet, Stop what the LORD I can. !!! CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or the information it contains is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error. Please immediately notify the sender and destroy the original transmission and its attachments. Incorrect delivery of this transmittal does not constitute waiver of any applicable privilege. If you have received this transmission in error. Please immediately notify the sender and destroy the original transmission and its attachments. - Original Message - From: Nichole Rohling To: Quadlist Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION HEY GANG AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I BOUGHT A MINI VAN LAST YEAR SO I COULD GET IT MODIFIED TO DRIVE. I WENT THRU VOC REHAB WHICH HAS BEEN BEEN VERY HELPFUL (WHEELCHAIR AGREE W/ YOU ABOUT DOING THE LEGWORK) . I TOOK MY VAN TO THE DEALER ON MAY 7 AND WAS TOLD 4/6 WEEKS. MONDAY WILL BE 12 WEEKS. MY VAN ALREADY HAD AN IMS CONVERSION. SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS IT SAT AT THE DEALER FOR A WEEK BEFORE IT WAS SENT TO HOUSTON. WAS TOLD BY PEOPLE IN HOUSTON IT WAS BEING TEST DRIVEN AND WOULD BE DELIVERED TO DEALER WEEK OF JULY 2. THEN WAS TOLD BY DEALER DUE TO FLOODING HOUSTON WAS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING IT OUT. I TALKED TO HOUSTON AND WAS TOLD MY VAN WAS READY JULY 2 BUT NEW EQUIPMENT CAME OUT SO THEY CHOSE TO UPGRADE IT ALL TO THE LATEST AND GREATEST. SOUNDS LIKE A LINE OF B.S. HUH? SO, VAN WAS SUPPOSE TO BE AT DEALER JULY 20. IT WAS STILL IN HOUSTON MONDAY AT 1PM SO MY APPT TO HAVE LOCKS INSTALLED TUESDAY - CANCELLED. THEY GOT VAN TUESDAY SO I GET UP AT 4:30 TO BE AT DEALER 75 MILES AWAY AT 8AM. I GOT THERE, GOT OUT OF CHAIR, WAITED 1 1/2 HRS TO BE TOLD TEY DIDN'T HAVE CORRECT EZ LOCKS. ALSO, MY DOOR WON'T OPEN AUTOMATICALLY AND VAN ISN'T KNEELING- ARRIVED FROM HOUSTON THAT WAY. THEY HAD NEW MODULE AND SAID THEY WOULD FIX IT THURSDAY. THEY REORDERED, GOT UP AT 5:30 TO BE THER BY 10AM YESTYERDAY. LOCKS CAME IN WHICH WAS A PLUS - GOT THAT INSTALLED. SR TECH TELLS ME IT'S NOT THE MODULE BUT A WIRE/WIRES WERE CUT IN HOUSTON. HE'S GOING TO TROUBLESHOOT AND OTHER TECH IS GOING INSTALL EZ LOCKS IN VAN. MY DAD AND I ARE LEAVING THE SERVICE AREA AND HE SAYS THERE'S YOUR DRIVER SEAT - WONDER WHERE THE PASSENGER SEAT IS. YES, YOU GUESSED IT, NO FREAKING SEAT! NO ONE KNOWS WHERE IT IS - WE ASSUME HOUSTON. WE GET BACK TO MOBILITY OFFICE AND A MAN PULLS UP IN A LEXUS AND WANTS HAND CONTROLS. I GO UP TO SERVICE TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND THEY PULLED TECH OFF MY VAN TO INSTALL HAND CONTROLS ON THE LEXUS THAT WAS BOUGHT IN TULSA THAT MORNING! NO APPT - JUST HAD THE $$ SO THE SR TECH HAS TO QUIT TRYING TO GET MY DOOR TO WORK AND INSTALL MY EZ LOCKS. I WAS THERE OVER 7 HRS. I'M SUPPOSE TO GET MY VAN TUESDAY - YEAH RIGHT! DOOR ISN'T WORKING AND WITH NO PASSENGER SEAT BECAUSE THEY ASSUME IT'S IN HOUSTON! OH, AND SR TECH IS ON VACATION NEXT WEEK. WHEELCHAIR, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT CARLOS/IDS/FREEDOM WHEELS IN HOUSTON? ANY ADVICE FOLKS BUT RIGHT NOW I WANT TO CHOKE SOMEONE! NICKI C5/6
Re: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION
I would have thought this was stuff the voc. rehab. people were suppose to do. Do they really have jobs? Is voc. rehab. some kind of welfare system for inept people with degrees in social work? john - Original Message From: Nichole Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quadlist quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:28:28 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION HEY GANG AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I BOUGHT A MINI VAN LAST YEAR SO I COULD GET IT MODIFIED TO DRIVE. I WENT THRU VOC REHAB WHICH HAS BEEN BEEN VERY HELPFUL (WHEELCHAIR AGREE W/ YOU ABOUT DOING THE LEGWORK) . I TOOK MY VAN TO THE DEALER ON MAY 7 AND WAS TOLD 4/6 WEEKS. MONDAY WILL BE 12 WEEKS. MY VAN ALREADY HAD AN IMS CONVERSION. SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS IT SAT AT THE DEALER FOR A WEEK BEFORE IT WAS SENT TO HOUSTON. WAS TOLD BY PEOPLE IN HOUSTON IT WAS BEING TEST DRIVEN AND WOULD BE DELIVERED TO DEALER WEEK OF JULY 2. THEN WAS TOLD BY DEALER DUE TO FLOODING HOUSTON WAS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING IT OUT. I TALKED TO HOUSTON AND WAS TOLD MY VAN WAS READY JULY 2 BUT NEW EQUIPMENT CAME OUT SO THEY CHOSE TO UPGRADE IT ALL TO THE LATEST AND GREATEST. SOUNDS LIKE A LINE OF B.S. HUH? SO, VAN WAS SUPPOSE TO BE AT DEALER JULY 20. IT WAS STILL IN HOUSTON MONDAY AT 1PM SO MY APPT TO HAVE LOCKS INSTALLED TUESDAY - CANCELLED. THEY GOT VAN TUESDAY SO I GET UP AT 4:30 TO BE AT DEALER 75 MILES AWAY AT 8AM. I GOT THERE, GOT OUT OF CHAIR, WAITED 1 1/2 HRS TO BE TOLD TEY DIDN'T HAVE CORRECT EZ LOCKS. ALSO, MY DOOR WON'T OPEN AUTOMATICALLY AND VAN ISN'T KNEELING- ARRIVED FROM HOUSTON THAT WAY. THEY HAD NEW MODULE AND SAID THEY WOULD FIX IT THURSDAY. THEY REORDERED, GOT UP AT 5:30 TO BE THER BY 10AM YESTYERDAY. LOCKS CAME IN WHICH WAS A PLUS - GOT THAT INSTALLED. SR TECH TELLS ME IT'S NOT THE MODULE BUT A WIRE/WIRES WERE CUT IN HOUSTON. HE'S GOING TO TROUBLESHOOT AND OTHER TECH IS GOING INSTALL EZ LOCKS IN VAN. MY DAD AND I ARE LEAVING THE SERVICE AREA AND HE SAYS THERE'S YOUR DRIVER SEAT - WONDER WHERE THE PASSENGER SEAT IS. YES, YOU GUESSED IT, NO FREAKING SEAT! NO ONE KNOWS WHERE IT IS - WE ASSUME HOUSTON. WE GET BACK TO MOBILITY OFFICE AND A MAN PULLS UP IN A LEXUS AND WANTS HAND CONTROLS. I GO UP TO SERVICE TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND THEY PULLED TECH OFF MY VAN TO INSTALL HAND CONTROLS ON THE LEXUS THAT WAS BOUGHT IN TULSA THAT MORNING! NO APPT - JUST HAD THE $$ SO THE SR TECH HAS TO QUIT TRYING TO GET MY DOOR TO WORK AND INSTALL MY EZ LOCKS. I WAS THERE OVER 7 HRS. I'M SUPPOSE TO GET MY VAN TUESDAY - YEAH RIGHT! DOOR ISN'T WORKING AND WITH NO PASSENGER SEAT BECAUSE THEY ASSUME IT'S IN HOUSTON! OH, AND SR TECH IS ON VACATION NEXT WEEK. WHEELCHAIR, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT CARLOS/IDS/FREEDOM WHEELS IN HOUSTON? ANY ADVICE FOLKS BUT RIGHT NOW I WANT TO CHOKE SOMEONE! NICKI C5/6 Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
[QUAD-L] LEMON LAW for VAN FRUSTRATION
Nicky, By the way my friend just came in and confirmed Oklahoma has a LEMON Law. I hope this helps you out of this mess. Your Friend, Jim Rice - Original Message - From: Nichole Rohling To: Quadskydiver Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION NOPE, NEWBY VANCE - Original Message - From: Quadskydiver To: Nichole Rohling Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION Nikki, I hope you didn't get your conversion through Hanicap Aides of Okla. near I-35. i HAD TROUBLE SIMILAR TO YOURS. Jim Rice I have a dream that one day soon, all people with physical challenges will be treated equally. I will not let things I am not able to do yet, Stop what the LORD I can. !!! CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or the information it contains is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error. Please immediately notify the sender and destroy the original transmission and its attachments. Incorrect delivery of this transmittal does not constitute waiver of any applicable privilege. If you have received this transmission in error. Please immediately notify the sender and destroy the original transmission and its attachments. - Original Message - From: Nichole Rohling To: Quadlist Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION HEY GANG AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I BOUGHT A MINI VAN LAST YEAR SO I COULD GET IT MODIFIED TO DRIVE. I WENT THRU VOC REHAB WHICH HAS BEEN BEEN VERY HELPFUL (WHEELCHAIR AGREE W/ YOU ABOUT DOING THE LEGWORK) . I TOOK MY VAN TO THE DEALER ON MAY 7 AND WAS TOLD 4/6 WEEKS. MONDAY WILL BE 12 WEEKS. MY VAN ALREADY HAD AN IMS CONVERSION. SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS IT SAT AT THE DEALER FOR A WEEK BEFORE IT WAS SENT TO HOUSTON. WAS TOLD BY PEOPLE IN HOUSTON IT WAS BEING TEST DRIVEN AND WOULD BE DELIVERED TO DEALER WEEK OF JULY 2. THEN WAS TOLD BY DEALER DUE TO FLOODING HOUSTON WAS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING IT OUT. I TALKED TO HOUSTON AND WAS TOLD MY VAN WAS READY JULY 2 BUT NEW EQUIPMENT CAME OUT SO THEY CHOSE TO UPGRADE IT ALL TO THE LATEST AND GREATEST. SOUNDS LIKE A LINE OF B.S. HUH? SO, VAN WAS SUPPOSE TO BE AT DEALER JULY 20. IT WAS STILL IN HOUSTON MONDAY AT 1PM SO MY APPT TO HAVE LOCKS INSTALLED TUESDAY - CANCELLED. THEY GOT VAN TUESDAY SO I GET UP AT 4:30 TO BE AT DEALER 75 MILES AWAY AT 8AM. I GOT THERE, GOT OUT OF CHAIR, WAITED 1 1/2 HRS TO BE TOLD TEY DIDN'T HAVE CORRECT EZ LOCKS. ALSO, MY DOOR WON'T OPEN AUTOMATICALLY AND VAN ISN'T KNEELING- ARRIVED FROM HOUSTON THAT WAY. THEY HAD NEW MODULE AND SAID THEY WOULD FIX IT THURSDAY. THEY REORDERED, GOT UP AT 5:30 TO BE THER BY 10AM YESTYERDAY. LOCKS CAME IN WHICH WAS A PLUS - GOT THAT INSTALLED. SR TECH TELLS ME IT'S NOT THE MODULE BUT A WIRE/WIRES WERE CUT IN HOUSTON. HE'S GOING TO TROUBLESHOOT AND OTHER TECH IS GOING INSTALL EZ LOCKS IN VAN. MY DAD AND I ARE LEAVING THE SERVICE AREA AND HE SAYS THERE'S YOUR DRIVER SEAT - WONDER WHERE THE PASSENGER SEAT IS. YES, YOU GUESSED IT, NO FREAKING SEAT! NO ONE KNOWS WHERE IT IS - WE ASSUME HOUSTON. WE GET BACK TO MOBILITY OFFICE AND A MAN PULLS UP IN A LEXUS AND WANTS HAND CONTROLS. I GO UP TO SERVICE TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND THEY PULLED TECH OFF MY VAN TO INSTALL HAND CONTROLS ON THE LEXUS THAT WAS BOUGHT IN TULSA THAT MORNING! NO APPT - JUST HAD THE $$ SO THE SR TECH HAS TO QUIT TRYING TO GET MY DOOR TO WORK AND INSTALL MY EZ LOCKS. I WAS THERE OVER 7 HRS. I'M SUPPOSE TO GET MY VAN TUESDAY - YEAH RIGHT! DOOR ISN'T WORKING AND WITH NO PASSENGER SEAT BECAUSE THEY ASSUME IT'S IN HOUSTON! OH, AND SR TECH IS ON VACATION NEXT WEEK. WHEELCHAIR, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT CARLOS/IDS/FREEDOM WHEELS IN HOUSTON? ANY ADVICE FOLKS BUT RIGHT NOW I WANT TO CHOKE SOMEONE! NICKI C5/6
Re: [QUAD-L] fire
I thought my day was in the dumper. Daaayum Mark! You win! I'm glad your ok. My day was almost nice compared to yours. Everyone else sues. Now that we have the ADA, we can consult with incompetant nincompoops till we are blue in the face and for our troubles we get..nothing. Bet if you weren't disabled you could sue that moron. Nicole is getting ripped off in Texas. You both should have lawyers kicking in doors. Your both examples of willful neglect and malpractice by certified professionals that you probably cant take to court because of the provisions in the ADA to negotiate untill hell freezes over. At which time, if you win, you'll get the work done. I'm really sorry Mark and Nicole. john - Original Message From: RollinOn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 2:14:32 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] fire Interesting day! As you I had my batteries replaced and this morning I get in my chair and I went to tilt in my chair and it started smoking and then flames and scared the out of me. He put some wires where they were cut when I tilted and my chair caught fire. Lucky I wasn’t alone or I wouldn’t be telling this story, I would be burnt up! My chair tech is an idiot! Mark Jackson RollinOn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/923 - Release Date: 7/27/2007 6:01 PM Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
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SO FAR MY REAR HASN'T NEARLY CAUGHT FIRE! THAT'LL PROBABLY HAPPEN WHEN I GET MY VAN! MARK, I'M GLAD YOU ARE OK. NICKI - Original Message - From: John S. To: Quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fire I thought my day was in the dumper. Daaayum Mark! You win! I'm glad your ok. My day was almost nice compared to yours. Everyone else sues. Now that we have the ADA, we can consult with incompetant nincompoops till we are blue in the face and for our troubles we get..nothing. Bet if you weren't disabled you could sue that moron. Nicole is getting ripped off in Texas. You both should have lawyers kicking in doors. Your both examples of willful neglect and malpractice by certified professionals that you probably cant take to court because of the provisions in the ADA to negotiate untill hell freezes over. At which time, if you win, you'll get the work done. I'm really sorry Mark and Nicole. john - Original Message From: RollinOn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 2:14:32 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] fire Interesting day! As you I had my batteries replaced and this morning I get in my chair and I went to tilt in my chair and it started smoking and then flames and scared the out of me. He put some wires where they were cut when I tilted and my chair caught fire. Lucky I wasn’t alone or I wouldn’t be telling this story, I would be burnt up! My chair tech is an idiot! Mark Jackson RollinOn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/923 - Release Date: 7/27/2007 6:01 PM -- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
[QUAD-L] Go ahead and sue!
I don't know where you all live, but I can testify that in Ohio, there is virtually no recourse. Check out this article located here: http://cincinnatibeacon.com/index.php/content/comments/1408 It is like institutional disregard for the ADA and this is just the city following in the steps of private enterprize. Now this work was done on time and on budget! john - Original Message From: Quadskydiver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: XNicky Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:10:23 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] LEMON LAW for VAN FRUSTRATION Nicky, By the way my friend just came in and confirmed Oklahoma has a LEMON Law. I hope this helps you out of this mess. Your Friend, Jim Rice - Original Message - From: Nichole Rohling To: Quadskydiver Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION NOPE, NEWBY VANCE - Original Message - From: Quadskydiver To: Nichole Rohling Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION Nikki, I hope you didn't get your conversion through Hanicap Aides of Okla. near I-35. i HAD TROUBLE SIMILAR TO YOURS. Jim Rice I have a dream that one day soon, all people with physical challenges will be treated equally. I will not let things I am not able to do yet, Stop what the LORD I can. !!! CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or the information it contains is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error. Please immediately notify the sender and destroy the original transmission and its attachments. Incorrect delivery of this transmittal does not constitute waiver of any applicable privilege. If you have received this transmission in error. Please immediately notify the sender and destroy the original transmission and its attachments. - Original Message - From: Nichole Rohling To: Quadlist Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION HEY GANG AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I BOUGHT A MINI VAN LAST YEAR SO I COULD GET IT MODIFIED TO DRIVE. I WENT THRU VOC REHAB WHICH HAS BEEN BEEN VERY HELPFUL (WHEELCHAIR AGREE W/ YOU ABOUT DOING THE LEGWORK) . I TOOK MY VAN TO THE DEALER ON MAY 7 AND WAS TOLD 4/6 WEEKS. MONDAY WILL BE 12 WEEKS. MY VAN ALREADY HAD AN IMS CONVERSION. SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS IT SAT AT THE DEALER FOR A WEEK BEFORE IT WAS SENT TO HOUSTON. WAS TOLD BY PEOPLE IN HOUSTON IT WAS BEING TEST DRIVEN AND WOULD BE DELIVERED TO DEALER WEEK OF JULY 2. THEN WAS TOLD BY DEALER DUE TO FLOODING HOUSTON WAS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING IT OUT. I TALKED TO HOUSTON AND WAS TOLD MY VAN WAS READY JULY 2 BUT NEW EQUIPMENT CAME OUT SO THEY CHOSE TO UPGRADE IT ALL TO THE LATEST AND GREATEST. SOUNDS LIKE A LINE OF B.S. HUH? SO, VAN WAS SUPPOSE TO BE AT DEALER JULY 20. IT WAS STILL IN HOUSTON MONDAY AT 1PM SO MY APPT TO HAVE LOCKS INSTALLED TUESDAY - CANCELLED. THEY GOT VAN TUESDAY SO I GET UP AT 4:30 TO BE AT DEALER 75 MILES AWAY AT 8AM. I GOT THERE, GOT OUT OF CHAIR, WAITED 1 1/2 HRS TO BE TOLD TEY DIDN'T HAVE CORRECT EZ LOCKS. ALSO, MY DOOR WON'T OPEN AUTOMATICALLY AND VAN ISN'T KNEELING- ARRIVED FROM HOUSTON THAT WAY. THEY HAD NEW MODULE AND SAID THEY WOULD FIX IT THURSDAY. THEY REORDERED, GOT UP AT 5:30 TO BE THER BY 10AM YESTYERDAY. LOCKS CAME IN WHICH WAS A PLUS - GOT THAT INSTALLED. SR TECH TELLS ME IT'S NOT THE MODULE BUT A WIRE/WIRES WERE CUT IN HOUSTON. HE'S GOING TO TROUBLESHOOT AND OTHER TECH IS GOING INSTALL EZ LOCKS IN VAN. MY DAD AND I ARE LEAVING THE SERVICE AREA AND HE SAYS THERE'S YOUR DRIVER SEAT - WONDER WHERE THE PASSENGER SEAT IS. YES, YOU GUESSED IT, NO FREAKING SEAT! NO ONE KNOWS WHERE IT IS - WE ASSUME HOUSTON. WE GET BACK TO MOBILITY OFFICE AND A MAN PULLS UP IN A LEXUS AND WANTS HAND CONTROLS. I GO UP TO SERVICE TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND THEY PULLED TECH OFF MY VAN TO INSTALL HAND CONTROLS ON THE LEXUS THAT WAS BOUGHT IN TULSA THAT MORNING! NO APPT - JUST HAD THE $$ SO THE SR TECH HAS TO QUIT TRYING TO GET MY DOOR TO WORK AND INSTALL MY EZ LOCKS. I WAS THERE OVER 7 HRS. I'M SUPPOSE TO GET MY VAN TUESDAY - YEAH RIGHT! DOOR ISN'T WORKING AND WITH NO PASSENGER SEAT BECAUSE THEY ASSUME IT'S IN HOUSTON! OH, AND SR TECH IS ON VACATION NEXT WEEK. WHEELCHAIR, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT CARLOS/IDS/FREEDOM WHEELS IN HOUSTON? ANY ADVICE FOLKS BUT RIGHT NOW I WANT TO CHOKE SOMEONE! NICKI C5/6 Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
Re: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION
In a message dated 7/28/2007 1:29:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HEY GANG AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I BOUGHT A MINI VAN LAST YEAR SO I COULD GET IT MODIFIED TO DRIVE. I WENT THRU VOC REHAB WHICH HAS BEEN BEEN VERY HELPFUL (WHEELCHAIR AGREE W/ YOU ABOUT DOING THE LEGWORK) . Sorry to hear your going through all this Nicki. Especially when this should be a happy event. Diane ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [QUAD-L] fire
In a message dated 7/28/2007 4:42:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes he should and I should've known better because he had to ask me how to get to the batteries and then wouldn't work on it in the same room where I could watch. He took it outside where it was around 95 that day and I told him to work inside where it was cool but he insisted. I don't know if the chair will work but it was put out with a big glass of water so probably not. Are the batteries okay? I would call the dealer that sent the tech out and demand new batteries. If he had to do this while you couldn't see, he obviously had no idea what he was doing or repairing them. If the batteries are the same ones, I'd be afraid to sit in the chair, especially alone. Diane ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION
In a message dated 7/28/2007 7:49:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would have thought this was stuff the voc. rehab. people were suppose to do. Do they really have jobs? Is voc. rehab. some kind of welfare system for inept people with degrees in social work? john - Original Message From: Nichole Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quadlist quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:28:28 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] VAN FRUSTRATION HEY GANG AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I BOUGHT A MINI VAN LAST YEAR SO I COULD GET IT MODIFIED TO DRIVE. I WENT THRU VOC REHAB WHICH HAS BEEN BEEN VERY HELPFUL (WHEELCHAIR AGREE W/ YOU ABOUT DOING THE LEGWORK) . John, Seems to me Voc rehab did their part. Nicki's story reminds me of: Houston, we have a problem! Diane ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[QUAD-L] what is the better van to buy
Between a Dodge and a Chrysler which is the better one to purchase for reliability? Thank you for any help.
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- Original Message - From: Papillon MFmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: QUAD-LISTmailto:QUAD-LIST@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:26 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] what is the better van to buy Between a Dodge and a Chrysler which is the better one to purchase for reliability? Thank you for any help.
