Re: [QUAD-L] center drive wheelchair question

2014-03-07 Thread wheelchair
Mid-wheelchairs were designed for dry, flat and level surfaces.  When  
going off road, grades above 10% and add the element of wet, snowy or ice, all  
warranties are out. There are few exceptions. Beside, 6 wheel chairs are 
made  for indoor use to meet CMS criteria.  Take them outdoors at your own  
risk.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/7/2014 3:50:20 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
nlg52...@yahoo.com writes:

 
I also agree with W!  My newest chair is mid wheel drive and I  hate it.  
I'm active, want to travel on most surfaces - go to the farm  (gravel 
driveway/grass/dirt)and show mini horses in some deep footing.  I  used the 
"new" 
chair for about one winter, parked it in the hall and went back  to using my 
rear wheel drive.  I am due for a new chair this December.  Last time my 
dealer promised  I'd love the mid wheel drive despite my reservations... he was 
wrong!  This time I'll stick to my guns.


So, if you want to go beyond home and sidewalk ...  don't go with the mid 
wheel drive. 


Nan :)



 
On Friday, March 7, 2014 2:46 PM,  "daa...@aol.com"  wrote:


 
 
I agree, I tried the center drive wheelchair and I didn't like it,  
especially on the street.
Dana
 
 
In a message dated 3/7/2014 11:41:37 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
diannal...@aol.com writes:

  
I agree with W, 100%!!!   
 
As part of your OT Evaluation, living in the country is all part of  it.  
Personally, I don't like the center drive wheelchairs on  anything other than 
a smooth, flat dry surface. I like the rear wheel  drive units.  But I real
ize that much depends on each  individual.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/5/2014 12:13:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
_kelray85@gmail.com_ (mailto:kelra...@gmail.com)  writes:

 
I will be getting a new wheelchair that summer and I have a few  questions 
that I am hoping people on here will have some opinions about.  I live out 
in the country on a dirt road on a farm. I spend a lot of  time outside 
during the summer and I am on grass and gravel most of the  time. I am 
wondering 
if anybody has any idea how the center drive  wheelchairs work on those kind 
of surfaces. It seems to me like the  smaller wheels in the front and the 
back would get caught up in the  grass and gravel. I had a salesman tell me 
last year that a center drive  would be fine and I have had other 
representative say that the center  drive would not work well at all on those 
surfaces. 
I am just looking  for some opinions from the people actually use the 
wheelchairs every  day. Thank you very much in advance for your help with this.
 
Raymond
C3/4 complete








-Original  Message-
From: wheelchair 
To: kelray85  ; quad-list 
Sent:  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] center drive wheelchair  question


 
As part of your OT Evaluation, living in the country is all part of  it.  
Personally, I don't like the center drive wheelchairs on anything  other than 
a smooth, flat dry surface. I like the rear wheel drive  units.  But I 
realize that much depends on each individual.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/5/2014 12:13:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
_kelray85@gmail.com_ (mailto:kelra...@gmail.com)  writes:

 
I will be getting a new wheelchair that summer and I have a few  questions 
that I am hoping people on here will have some opinions about. I  live out 
in the country on a dirt road on a farm. I spend a lot of time  outside 
during the summer and I am on grass and gravel most of the time. I  am 
wondering 
if anybody has any idea how the center drive wheelchairs work  on those kind 
of surfaces. It seems to me like the smaller wheels in the  front and the 
back would get caught up in the grass and gravel. I had a  salesman tell me 
last year that a center drive would be fine and I have  had other 
representative say that the center drive would not work well at  all on those 
surfaces. 
I am just looking for some opinions from the people  actually use the 
wheelchairs every day. Thank you very much in advance for  your help with this.
 
Raymond
C3/4  complete




















Re: [QUAD-L] center drive wheelchair question

2014-03-07 Thread Nan
I also agree with W!  My newest chair is mid wheel drive and I hate it.  I'm 
active, want to travel on most surfaces - go to the farm (gravel 
driveway/grass/dirt)and show mini horses in some deep footing.  I used the 
"new" chair for about one winter, parked it in the hall and went back to using 
my rear wheel drive.  I am due for a new chair this December.   Last time my 
dealer promised I'd love the mid wheel drive despite my reservations... he was 
wrong!  This time I'll stick to my guns.

So, if you want to go beyond home and sidewalk ... don't go with the mid wheel 
drive. 

Nan :)



On Friday, March 7, 2014 2:46 PM, "daa...@aol.com"  wrote:
 
I agree, I tried the center drive wheelchair and I didn't like it, 
especially on the street.
Dana
 
In a message dated 3/7/2014 11:41:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
diannal...@aol.com writes:
I agree with W, 100%!!!  
>As part of your OT Evaluation, living in the country is all part of  it.  
>Personally, I don't like the center drive wheelchairs on anything  other than 
>a smooth, flat dry surface. I like the rear wheel drive  units.  But I realize 
>that much depends on each individual.
>> 
>>Best Wishes
>> 
>>In a message dated 3/5/2014 12:13:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
>>kelra...@gmail.com writes:
>>I will be getting a new wheelchair that summer and I have a few  questions 
>>that I am hoping people on here will have some opinions about. I  live out in 
>>the country on a dirt road on a farm. I spend a lot of time  outside during 
>>the summer and I am on grass and gravel most of the time. I  am wondering if 
>>anybody has any idea how the center drive wheelchairs work  on those kind of 
>>surfaces. It seems to me like the smaller wheels in the  front and the back 
>>would get caught up in the grass and gravel. I had a  salesman tell me last 
>>year that a center drive would be fine and I have  had other representative 
>>say that the center drive would not work well at  all on those surfaces. I am 
>>just looking for some opinions from the people  actually use the wheelchairs 
>>every day. Thank you very much in advance for  your help with this.
>>> 
>>>Raymond
>>>C3/4 complete
>-Original  Message-
>From: wheelchair 
>To: kelray85 
  ; quad-list 
>Sent: 
  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:14 pm
>Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] center drive wheelchair 
  question
>
>
>As part of your OT Evaluation, living in the country is all part of  it.  
>Personally, I don't like the center drive wheelchairs on anything  other than 
>a smooth, flat dry surface. I like the rear wheel drive  units.  But I realize 
>that much depends on each individual.
> 
>Best Wishes
> 
>In a message dated 3/5/2014 12:13:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
>kelra...@gmail.com writes:
>I will be getting a new wheelchair that summer and I have a few  questions 
>that I am hoping people on here will have some opinions about. I  live out in 
>the country on a dirt road on a farm. I spend a lot of time  outside during 
>the summer and I am on grass and gravel most of the time. I  am wondering if 
>anybody has any idea how the center drive wheelchairs work  on those kind of 
>surfaces. It seems to me like the smaller wheels in the  front and the back 
>would get caught up in the grass and gravel. I had a  salesman tell me last 
>year that a center drive would be fine and I have had  other representative 
>say that the center drive would not work well at all on  those surfaces. I am 
>just looking for some opinions from the people actually  use the wheelchairs 
>every day. Thank you very much in advance for your help  with this.
>> 
>>Raymond
>>C3/4  complete

Re: [QUAD-L] am I cold, or am I hot

2014-03-07 Thread Don Smith
Have you tried wearing thick long socks to keep your feet warm.  Are feet have 
alot of nerve endings and if they're cold your body may feel cold.




 From: Bill Lang 
To: Don Price  
Cc: Dave Krehbiel ; greg ; 
"quad-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] am I cold, or am I hot
 


I seem to be always cold! 24 years of shivering. I am sitting here in a 74 
degree room wrapped in a blanket with a hood and a neck warmer. That works for 
me most times.

I feel for you.

Sent from my iPad Billy

On Mar 6, 2014, at 17:42, Don Price  wrote:


Don't know if you touch alcohol, but a glass of red wine seems to reset my 
internal temperature gauge. Of course, alcohol and certain medications are not 
a good combination, so be careful there.
>
>
>Your situation, as described, seems to be more neurological than 
>environmental. In my opinion, it's not a matter of blankets and air 
>temperature, but more likely related to Autonomic Dysreflexia, inappropriate 
>vasodialation, poor blood circulation or something affecting your 
>hypothalamus. Maybe a combination. I assume you've talked to your physician 
>about this?
>
>
>I hope you can figure it out because being (feeling) cold is miserable!
>Don.
>
>
>
>On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:54 PM, Dave Krehbiel  
>wrote:
> 
>I don’t know if it would help your problem, but I sleep much more comfortably 
>at night (and feel warmer during the day) when I wear a knit cap.
>-Dave
> 
>From:greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:10 PM
>To: quad-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: [QUAD-L] am I cold, or am I hot
> 
>I've mentioned this before, but I never heard if anyone else was experiencing 
>the same problem. I can sit in the sun for long times in hot weather and feel 
>fine. A few times I have gotten overheated, but at those times I felt hot and 
>overheated. And in Seattle at night I would use a blanket, a sheet, and a 
>heavy comforter. And all through the night I felt toasty warm.
> 
>But the last few years when I'm in bed daytime or night, but mostly nighttime. 
>Just using a sheet and one blanket. When my arms are covered. I can feel like 
>I am freezing cold, I can even be shivering. I can turn up the heat, I can add 
>a blanket, but I just feel colder. I often check my temperature and it is 
>about 97 or there about, my normal temperature is about 96.5. I am so sure 
>that I am cold, my arms feel like all the hair is standing up and my arms are 
>shaking. Then I realize what must be happening, that I'm overheated. So I 
>uncover my arms and at first, when the air gets my arms I feel even a bit 
>colder. But as my arms cool off they start to feel better, no longer hot or 
>cold. But then in the middle of the night they get cold again from being 
>uncovered. So it is damned if I do, damned if I don't.
> 
>My arms often feel cold and tingly, except when the sun is shining on them. 
>But only when under covers do they get to bad. When I sit under the furnace 
>vent and get warm I don't shivering like that. When I fall asleep with my arms 
>covered I wake up shivering, my arms are clenched tight, and I would bet 
>everything I have that I am cold. Obviously I would lose that bet.
> 
>I can't figure out how to stay warm night, without feeling like I'm freezing.
> 
>Greg
> 
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] center drive wheelchair question

2014-03-07 Thread DAANOO
I agree, I tried the center drive wheelchair and I didn't like it,  
especially on the street.
Dana
 
 
In a message dated 3/7/2014 11:41:37 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
diannal...@aol.com writes:

  
I agree with W, 100%!!!  
 
As part of your OT Evaluation, living in the country is all part of  it.  
Personally, I don't like the center drive wheelchairs on anything  other than 
a smooth, flat dry surface. I like the rear wheel drive  units.  But I 
realize that much depends on each individual.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/5/2014 12:13:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
_kelray85@gmail.com_ (mailto:kelra...@gmail.com)  writes:

 
I will be getting a new wheelchair that summer and I have a few  questions 
that I am hoping people on here will have some opinions about. I  live out 
in the country on a dirt road on a farm. I spend a lot of time  outside 
during the summer and I am on grass and gravel most of the time. I  am 
wondering 
if anybody has any idea how the center drive wheelchairs work  on those kind 
of surfaces. It seems to me like the smaller wheels in the  front and the 
back would get caught up in the grass and gravel. I had a  salesman tell me 
last year that a center drive would be fine and I have  had other 
representative say that the center drive would not work well at  all on those 
surfaces. 
I am just looking for some opinions from the people  actually use the 
wheelchairs every day. Thank you very much in advance for  your help with this.
 
Raymond
C3/4 complete








-Original  Message-
From: wheelchair 
To: kelray85  ; quad-list 
Sent:  Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] center drive wheelchair  question


 
As part of your OT Evaluation, living in the country is all part of  it.  
Personally, I don't like the center drive wheelchairs on anything  other than 
a smooth, flat dry surface. I like the rear wheel drive  units.  But I 
realize that much depends on each individual.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/5/2014 12:13:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
_kelray85@gmail.com_ (mailto:kelra...@gmail.com)  writes:

 
I will be getting a new wheelchair that summer and I have a few  questions 
that I am hoping people on here will have some opinions about. I  live out 
in the country on a dirt road on a farm. I spend a lot of time  outside 
during the summer and I am on grass and gravel most of the time. I  am 
wondering 
if anybody has any idea how the center drive wheelchairs work  on those kind 
of surfaces. It seems to me like the smaller wheels in the  front and the 
back would get caught up in the grass and gravel. I had a  salesman tell me 
last year that a center drive would be fine and I have had  other 
representative say that the center drive would not work well at all on  those 
surfaces. 
I am just looking for some opinions from the people actually  use the 
wheelchairs every day. Thank you very much in advance for your help  with this.
 
Raymond
C3/4  complete









Re: [QUAD-L] center drive wheelchair question

2014-03-07 Thread diannal767

I agree with W, 100%!!!  

As part of your OT Evaluation, living in the country is all part of it.  
Personally, I don't like the center drive wheelchairs on anything other than a 
smooth, flat dry surface. I like the rear wheel drive units.  But I realize 
that much depends on each individual.
 
Best Wishes
 

In a message dated 3/5/2014 12:13:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
kelra...@gmail.com writes:
  
  
I will be getting a new wheelchair that summer and I have a few questions   
that I am hoping people on here will have some opinions about. I live out in   
the country on a dirt road on a farm. I spend a lot of time outside during the  
 summer and I am on grass and gravel most of the time. I am wondering if   
anybody has any idea how the center drive wheelchairs work on those kind of   
surfaces. It seems to me like the smaller wheels in the front and the back   
would get caught up in the grass and gravel. I had a salesman tell me last   
year that a center drive would be fine and I have had other representative say  
 that the center drive would not work well at all on those surfaces. I am just  
 looking for some opinions from the people actually use the wheelchairs every   
day. Thank you very much in advance for your help with this.
  
 
  
Raymond
  
C3/4 complete






-Original Message-
From: wheelchair 
To: kelray85 ; quad-list 
Sent: Wed, Mar 5, 2014 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] center drive wheelchair question



As part of your OT Evaluation, living in the country is all part of it.  
Personally, I don't like the center drive wheelchairs on anything other than a 
smooth, flat dry surface. I like the rear wheel drive units.  But I realize 
that much depends on each individual.
 
Best Wishes
 

In a message dated 3/5/2014 12:13:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
kelra...@gmail.com writes:
  
  
I will be getting a new wheelchair that summer and I have a few questions   
that I am hoping people on here will have some opinions about. I live out in   
the country on a dirt road on a farm. I spend a lot of time outside during the  
 summer and I am on grass and gravel most of the time. I am wondering if   
anybody has any idea how the center drive wheelchairs work on those kind of   
surfaces. It seems to me like the smaller wheels in the front and the back   
would get caught up in the grass and gravel. I had a salesman tell me last   
year that a center drive would be fine and I have had other representative say  
 that the center drive would not work well at all on those surfaces. I am just  
 looking for some opinions from the people actually use the wheelchairs every   
day. Thank you very much in advance for your help with this.
  
 
  
Raymond
  
C3/4 complete





Re: [QUAD-L] center drive wheelchair question

2014-03-07 Thread diannal767

I have one. A TDX 5. I love the turning radius. I'm very careful around gravel, 
big or small. Got stuck in both. Not great in the snow either. It won't go 
through large gravel at all. (don't know grades of gravel). Trying to climb 
curbs don't work out well either. Just my experience.
Dianna

I will be getting a new wheelchair that summer and I have a few questions   
that I am hoping people on here will have some opinions about. I live out in   
the country on a dirt road on a farm. I spend a lot of time outside during the  
 summer and I am on grass and gravel most of the time. I am wondering if   
anybody has any idea how the center drive wheelchairs work on those kind of   
surfaces. It seems to me like the smaller wheels in the front and the back   
would get caught up in the grass and gravel. I had a salesman tell me last   
year that a center drive would be fine and I have had other representative say  
 that the center drive would not work well at all on those surfaces. I am just  
 looking for some opinions from the people actually use the wheelchairs every   
day. Thank you very much in advance for your help with this.
  
 
  
Raymond
  
C3/4 complete




-Original Message-
From: Don Smith 
To: wheelchair ; kelray85 ; quad-list 

Sent: Thu, Mar 6, 2014 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] center drive wheelchair question



I would ask to demo the mid wheel drive chair in your regular daily 
environment.  I have had rear wheel drive chairs for the past 26 years with the 
last one at 13 years now, at the time I got it I lived in the country and mid 
wheel drive chairs were new to the market.  I now live in town/city and demo'ed 
a mid wheel drive chair (Permobil m300) and it works great on public transit as 
well as getting around my apartment and all other things I do.

Don c5/6 incomp.





  
 
 
 
   From: "wheelch...@aol.com" 
 To: kelra...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 3:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] center drive wheelchair question
  
 


  
As part of your OT Evaluation, living in the country is all part of it.  
Personally, I don't like the center drive wheelchairs on anything other than a 
smooth, flat dry surface. I like the rear wheel drive units.  But I realize 
that much depends on each individual.
 
Best Wishes
 

In a message dated 3/5/2014 12:13:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
kelra...@gmail.com writes:
  
  
I will be getting a new wheelchair that summer and I have a few questions   
that I am hoping people on here will have some opinions about. I live out in   
the country on a dirt road on a farm. I spend a lot of time outside during the  
 summer and I am on grass and gravel most of the time. I am wondering if   
anybody has any idea how the center drive wheelchairs work on those kind of   
surfaces. It seems to me like the smaller wheels in the front and the back   
would get caught up in the grass and gravel. I had a salesman tell me last   
year that a center drive would be fine and I have had other representative say  
 that the center drive would not work well at all on those surfaces. I am just  
 looking for some opinions from the people actually use the wheelchairs every   
day. Thank you very much in advance for your help with this.
  
 
  
Raymond
  
C3/4 complete





 
 
  



Re: [QUAD-L] Serious pain meds

2014-03-07 Thread diannal767

I don't have any answers. I'm on Percocet. Recently I was prescribed Morophine 
20mg from my cancer doctor. It worked for about 2 weeks. I know it's a baby 
dose but I'm in remission and I want to save increasing the dose for when I 
relapse from this Mantel cell lymphoma and I'll really need the heavy hitters. 
I know how you feel Ron. I'm through with chemo but haven't the strength for 
long term driving anymore either. I get increased pain driving around town.
Dianna
hoping to wash the salt off my car today, a high of 40!!


-Original Message-
From: RONALD L PRACHT 
To: quad-list 
Sent: Thu, Mar 6, 2014 3:23 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Serious pain meds




Im hurting pretty bad guys, haven't found the proper meds yet. My stomach and 
back feel like someone punched me. Its hard to be happy when your in pain. I 
haven't driven my van in near 6 months. I keep thinking things will get better 
but they don't. Its scary and I wish I had someone to help me figure it out.


ron

  
 
 
 
   From: "wheelch...@aol.com" 
 To: bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com; g...@eskimo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Serious pain meds
  
 


  
I'm wondering if a trail drug has been approved by FDA yet.   SN111 by a 
company called NERV-X.  It was suppose to be 5-10 stronger than morphine 
without the sight effects.
 
Best Wishes
 

In a message dated 3/6/2014 2:14:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com writes:
  
I went to my pain Doc because I need something stronger then morphine. He   is 
keeping me on morphine and adding 

Smile Everyday
  

On Mar 6, 2014, at 2:56 PM, greg  wrote:


  


 I was taking 20 mg of MS – contin three times a day for a number of years. 
After a while it loses its potency. I now take 60 mg, 3x a day. They say 
that last 12 hours, but I never got more than eight hours of relief. If you 
are only taking 20 mg, before you give up on it I would suggest to up your 
dosage and try it three times a day. Just my opinion.

Greg



> Hi All,

> I've been taking 20 mgs of morphine (time release) everyday for 3

> 1/2 years now and 15 mgs of morphine (fast acting) when needed ...

> up to 4 times a day.

> Next week, Wednesday, I'm going to see my pain Doctor to be taken

> off the morphine because it simply isn't working any more.

>

> Dose anybody have any suggestion of a very strong pain med? My pain

> is from scoliosis, a syrinx, and arthritis in my spine.

> { I also take 500mgs of Gabapentin, 10mgs Valium}

>

> Bobbie

>

> Smile Everyday

=