RE: [QUAD-L] Ischial bursitis?

[Gail Overton]

This has been going on for 2 months and getting worse everyday, even with 
bedrest..

From: greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:01 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ischial bursitis?

Once I get the "phantom" pain in areas I can't feel, like my butt, only 
sleeping helps. Often the next day it can be gone.
Greg
> Have any of you dealt with this where both buttocks ache when
> you?re sitting in the chair or laying on your back? What did you do
> to heal it?

Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article

[Jeffrey Gaede]

I still think  you're misinterpreting my statement.

  From: greg 
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article
   
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e the only thing that can save you, family or not.As long as you can comunicate 
and have money for around the clock help, you can hire help yourself.Family is 
a huge safty net and comfort, but money gets help.Greg

> Never say never about a nursing home. All is takes is your family> to die 
> off. Money cant save you in most cases. The key is enjoy> today.

   

Re: [QUAD-L] Ischial bursitis?

[greg]

Once I get the "phantom" pain in areas I can't feel, like my butt, only sleeping helps. Often the next day it can be gone.
Greg
> Have any of you dealt with this where both buttocks ache when
> you’re sitting in the chair or laying on your back? What did you do
> to heal it?

Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article

[greg]

Money might e the only thing that can save you, family or not.
As long as you can comunicate and have money for around the clock help, you can hire help yourself.
Family is a huge safty net and comfort, but money gets help.
Greg
> Never say never about a nursing home. All is takes is your family
> to die off. Money cant save you in most cases. The key is enjoy
> today.

Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article

[Jeffrey Gaede]

I don't think  you understood my statement.

  From: RONALD L PRACHT 
 To: Quad-list Post  
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article
   
Never say never about a nursing home. All is takes is your family to die off. 
Money cant save you in most cases. The key is enjoy today.
Ron 

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:41 PM, Jeffrey Gaede  
wrote:
 

 I didn't need to read this to know I'll never be going into a nursing home…

  From: Lori Michaelson 
 To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list  
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article
  
​Nursing homes are another death sentence for high level quads.  They have no 
idea what our care requires​ let alone wound care, power chair care, lift care, 
& with ONE aide assigned to 25-27 patients & only 10 minutes of care to each. 
Worldwide.
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Danny Espinoza  
wrote:

There was just a paralyzed person that was in the news for dying in prison 
https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=LAKUMYuLz-g=share Our prison system in 
a lot of cases is a death sentence for us no matter how bad the crime and there 
are many cases like this. The cost is another concern he should be forced to 
wear a monitor/be on house arrest for the remaining time+probation IMHO but 
that’s just my 2 cents right or wrong.
-Danny From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com ] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:12 PM
To: greg ; quad-list 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article I also factor in that the liberal 
media loves to word things that can make part of any story untrue and, with 
this article, something just doesn't jive.  On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:45 PM, 
greg  wrote:
I understad both sides, but they should keep him locked up.Not a good guy. He 
might not rape again, but can still do harm.Otherwise it gives us quads no 
reason to not go do crime. I could tape a gun to my hand. Might not be able to 
pull the trigger, but they wont know that.Lets start a Quad-Squaud Gang. Bank 
Robers on wheels. Greg> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ news/article-2234046/Court- 
orders-> release-repulsive- quadriplegic-rapist-prison- costs-care-him.html


 -- "Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and 
heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean 
Koontz



-- 
"Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and heart 
and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean Koontz


   

   

   

Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article

[RONALD L PRACHT]

Never say never about a nursing home. All is takes is your family to die off. 
Money cant save you in most cases. The key is enjoy today.
Ron 

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:41 PM, Jeffrey Gaede  
wrote:
 

 I didn't need to read this to know I'll never be going into a nursing home…

  From: Lori Michaelson 
 To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list  
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article
  
​Nursing homes are another death sentence for high level quads.  They have no 
idea what our care requires​ let alone wound care, power chair care, lift care, 
& with ONE aide assigned to 25-27 patients & only 10 minutes of care to each. 
Worldwide.
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Danny Espinoza  
wrote:

There was just a paralyzed person that was in the news for dying in prison 
https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=LAKUMYuLz-g=share Our prison system in 
a lot of cases is a death sentence for us no matter how bad the crime and there 
are many cases like this. The cost is another concern he should be forced to 
wear a monitor/be on house arrest for the remaining time+probation IMHO but 
that’s just my 2 cents right or wrong.
-Danny From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com ] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:12 PM
To: greg ; quad-list 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article I also factor in that the liberal 
media loves to word things that can make part of any story untrue and, with 
this article, something just doesn't jive.  On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:45 PM, 
greg  wrote:
I understad both sides, but they should keep him locked up.Not a good guy. He 
might not rape again, but can still do harm.Otherwise it gives us quads no 
reason to not go do crime. I could tape a gun to my hand. Might not be able to 
pull the trigger, but they wont know that.Lets start a Quad-Squaud Gang. Bank 
Robers on wheels. Greg> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ news/article-2234046/Court- 
orders-> release-repulsive- quadriplegic-rapist-prison- costs-care-him.html


 -- "Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and 
heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean 
Koontz



-- 
"Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and heart 
and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean Koontz


   

   

[QUAD-L] Ischial bursitis?

[Gail Overton]

Have any of you dealt with this where both buttocks ache when you're sitting in 
the chair or laying on your back? What did you do to heal it?

Re: [QUAD-L] Great Quad movie "Waterdance"

[Lori Michaelson]

Gail - 100% agree & Jim *needs *all he *needs *to survive each & every
second. Bronchitis for many of us can be a death sentence. I've needed the
"quad cough" to survive it - 3-4 times. Thought I'd die - really.

The higher level quad & acquiring wounds & UTIs & pain is not represented
in many 'quad' movies. Let alone 'support' systems & people not doing their
jobs [lab reports & s much more].

Live your life when, where & how you can/need. Live till you die. Speak up
for your rights to get things done. Smile even if your pain is unbearable.
It's hard, tiring, exhausting & stressful but tis all you can do.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Gail Overton  wrote:

> Most of these movies are about paraplegics that can use their hands; not a
> disability in my book………..how about more movies on true quads that can’t do
> anything but lay in bed and have other people drive them around in their
> wheelchairs (unless you have a ton of money for assistive aids that are a
> pain in the ___!) like head drives that hurt your neck muscles………
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Vogel [mailto:rhvsh...@me.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 1:20 PM
> *To:* Jim Lubin
> *Cc:* RONALD L PRACHT; Quad-list Post
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Great Quad movie "Waterdance"
>
>
>
> Jim and Jeffery, well said!  I also agree.  Ironically the tagline for the
> movie was “Live Boldly”—are you kidding me?
>
>
>
> Speaking of great Quad Movies, there is an amazing Must Read quad book
> that is a true story called: "Lucky Break: A Love Story”  The true story
> of Kirk Kilgour, an Olympic Level Volleyball player, who became a C4
> complete quad, no movement below his shoulder in his mid-20’s he was hired
> to coach the Italian Volleyball team—a huge sport in Italy—and played
> professionally.
>
>
>
> He was such an amazing person that—true story—after I finished a speech
> for the National Spinal Cord Injury Association he came
>
> up to me to chat, and at the same time a very attractive woman came up to
> talk with me as well.  She offered to get us drinks and in
>
> typical male fashion I thought “man if I can ditch the quad I might have a
> chance with this woman”.  As we got to talking I found his stories so
> amazing that by the time she got back with our drinks my thought had
> changed to, “ditch the woman, I want to hear more about this guy’s life”
>  we became close friends.
>
>
>
> The book is about his life and is written by a woman that fell in love
> with him when he was in his early 40’s.  She was beautiful, athletic, lived
> in Aspen and spent her days skiing, hiking, biking and met him by
> chance—she wanted to get good seats to watch
>
> events at the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta and he needed an attendant—it turns
> out a friend of a friend introduced them via phone, she
>
> flew out to LA to do a week-long-trial run to see if it would work.  It
> didn’t, she said she couldn’t be his attendant because she had fallen in
> love with him—the feeling was mutual.  The book describes their life, the
> highs and lows, world wide travel, Kirk meeting the
>
> Pope and the Pope asking Kirk for his autograph—true story.
>
>
>
> I’m hoping somebody grabs hold of the book and turns it into a move, it
> would be fantastic!
>
>
>
> The book is available at Amazon.  Here is a review I wrote about it:
> https://permobilus.com/lucky-break-a-love-story/
> 
>
>
>
> Bob Vogel
>
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Jim Lubin  wrote:
>
>
>
> I made a list on IMDB Movie's featuring Quadriplegics
>
> http://www.imdb.com/list/ls051082586/
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 10:32 AM, RONALD L PRACHT 
> wrote:
>
> I watch a lot of tv but never came across this movie until I was on
> youtube last night. Its about three guys that get paralyzed and their
> stuggles to deal with it. Has Helen Hunt, Wesley snipes and others in the
> 1992 flick Waterdance. Pretty realistic for a movie.
>
>
>
> 1992 The Waterdance
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> 1992 The Waterdance
>
> The Waterdance 1992 Movie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
"Petting, scratching and cuddling a 

Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article

[Jeffrey Gaede]

I didn't need to read this to know I'll never be going into a nursing home…

  From: Lori Michaelson 
 To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list  
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article
   
​Nursing homes are another death sentence for high level quads.  They have no 
idea what our care requires​ let alone wound care, power chair care, lift care, 
& with ONE aide assigned to 25-27 patients & only 10 minutes of care to each. 
Worldwide.
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Danny Espinoza  
wrote:

There was just a paralyzed person that was in the news for dying in prison 
https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=LAKUMYuLz-g=share Our prison system in 
a lot of cases is a death sentence for us no matter how bad the crime and there 
are many cases like this. The cost is another concern he should be forced to 
wear a monitor/be on house arrest for the remaining time+probation IMHO but 
that’s just my 2 cents right or wrong.
-Danny From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com ] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:12 PM
To: greg ; quad-list 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article I also factor in that the liberal 
media loves to word things that can make part of any story untrue and, with 
this article, something just doesn't jive.  On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:45 PM, 
greg  wrote:
I understad both sides, but they should keep him locked up.Not a good guy. He 
might not rape again, but can still do harm.Otherwise it gives us quads no 
reason to not go do crime. I could tape a gun to my hand. Might not be able to 
pull the trigger, but they wont know that.Lets start a Quad-Squaud Gang. Bank 
Robers on wheels. Greg> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ news/article-2234046/Court- 
orders-> release-repulsive- quadriplegic-rapist-prison- costs-care-him.html


 -- "Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and 
heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean 
Koontz



-- 
"Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and heart 
and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean Koontz


   

Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article

[Lori Michaelson]

​Nursing homes are another death sentence for high level quads.  They have
no idea what our care requires​ let alone wound care, power chair care,
lift care, & with ONE aide assigned to 25-27 patients & only 10 minutes of
care to each. Worldwide.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Danny Espinoza 
wrote:

> There was just a paralyzed person that was in the news for dying in prison
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAKUMYuLz-g=share Our prison
> system in a lot of cases is a death sentence for us no matter how bad the
> crime and there are many cases like this. The cost is another concern he
> should be forced to wear a monitor/be on house arrest for the remaining
> time+probation IMHO but that’s just my 2 cents right or wrong.
> -Danny
>
>
>
> *From:* Lori Michaelson [mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:12 PM
> *To:* greg ; quad-list 
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article
>
>
>
> I also factor in that the liberal media loves to word things that can make
> part of any story untrue and, with this article, something just doesn't
> jive.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:45 PM, greg  wrote:
>
> I understad both sides, but they should keep him locked up.
>
> Not a good guy.
>
> He might not rape again, but can still do harm.
>
> Otherwise it gives us quads no reason to not go do crime. I could tape a
> gun to my hand. Might not be able to pull the trigger, but they wont know
> that.
>
> Lets start a Quad-Squaud Gang. Bank Robers on wheels.
>
>
>
> Greg
>
> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2234046/Court-orders-
>
> > release-repulsive-quadriplegic-rapist-prison-costs-care-him.html
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> "Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and
> heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean
> Koontz
>



-- 
"Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and
heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean
Koontz

RE: [QUAD-L] Check out this article

[Danny Espinoza]

There was just a paralyzed person that was in the news for dying in prison 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAKUMYuLz-g 
 =share Our 
prison system in a lot of cases is a death sentence for us no matter how bad 
the crime and there are many cases like this. The cost is another concern he 
should be forced to wear a monitor/be on house arrest for the remaining 
time+probation IMHO but that’s just my 2 cents right or wrong.
-Danny

 

From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:12 PM
To: greg ; quad-list 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Check out this article

 

I also factor in that the liberal media loves to word things that can make part 
of any story untrue and, with this article, something just doesn't jive. 

 

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:45 PM, greg  
> wrote:

I understad both sides, but they should keep him locked up.

Not a good guy. 

He might not rape again, but can still do harm.

Otherwise it gives us quads no reason to not go do crime. I could tape a gun to 
my hand. Might not be able to pull the trigger, but they wont know that.

Lets start a Quad-Squaud Gang. Bank Robers on wheels.

 

Greg

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2234046/Court-orders-

> release-repulsive-quadriplegic-rapist-prison-costs-care-him.html





 

-- 

"Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and heart 
and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean Koontz