Re: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game of being Christian

2004-10-13 Thread Stacy Harim




Still not judging here so I hope that people are not labeling me as 
judging.  I stated the facts.  I tried to do a search on the 
statistics on blacks and whites collecting government assistance to compare to 
the numbers that you pulled up, but came up empty handed so far so I will not 
speculate, but I think that we would be surprised.  
There are more whites in the population so that should mean that there 
would be far less blacks collecting, but I don't know what we would find if we 
got the statistics on what race is on government assistance.  
Stacy
"People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy 
yourself"

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 9:56 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game 
  of being Christian
  IN REPONSE TO:"I never mentioned color in 
  my post because I know it's not just black women that do it, however they are 
  the majority when it comes to that.  I realize what you are saying, but 
  it's wrong no matter what color you are and having all these children knowing 
  you don't have an honest way to support them."US Census 
  2000Total population:  281,421,906Total responses to 
  race:   274,595,678, African American:    
  34,658,190 White 211,460,626 
  Hispanic:    35,305,818 The percentage of African 
  Americans on government assistance is higher than the other races, this is 
  true.  However, if you consider the population at whole, is the African 
  American percentage actually higher than whites on government programs?  
  
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Re: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game of being Christian

2004-10-13 Thread STILSOULVIVEN
IN REPONSE TO:
"I never mentioned color in my post because I know it's not just black women that do it, however they are the majority when it comes to that.  I realize what you are saying, but it's wrong no matter what color you are and having all these children knowing you don't have an honest way to support them."

US Census 2000
Total population:  281,421,906
Total responses to race:   274,595,678, 
African American:    34,658,190 
White 211,460,626 
Hispanic:    35,305,818 

The percentage of African Americans on government assistance is higher than the other races, this is true.  However, if you consider the population at whole, is the African American percentage actually higher than whites on government programs?  


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Re: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game of being Christian

2004-10-13 Thread Stacy Harim
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game of being Christian




You didn't.  He replied to me and I had no mention or did anyone else 
about a minority receiving any more than anyone else.
Stacy
 
"People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy 
yourself"

  - Original Message - 
  From: Boyd 
  Jenkins 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:58 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game 
  of being Christian
  On 10/12/04 7:41 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  <snip> But if one looks at the complete picture, minorities receive 
the least about of benefits.  In essence, poor white women 
receiving benefits outnumber black women receiving benefits 
considerably.  That in itself trashes the argument against 
minorities.  Apparently, I’ve overlooked some email traffic posing an argument 
  against minorities, but I’m prepared to accept your conclusions if they 
  are based on percentile tabulations. I’ve not looked at the latest 
  figures, but traditionally, the percentage of blacks on a per capita 
  basis receiving welfare, is greaterthan the percentage of whites on a 
  per capita basis.
  <snip> 
I congratulate anyone who succeeds and does well. 
We are most definitely of 
  the same opinion here.
  <snip> 
No matter what their racial background is/or was. 
WIt bothers me somewhat 
  however, that some among us seem to harbour negative feelings about a good 
  and honorable notable who, though wealthy, became a strong advocate on 
  behalf of the spinal cord-injured everywhere. I would ask of you and every 
  reader of this email: “What single, non-medicalltytrained individual has 
  given more of himself to alleviate the scourge of spinal cord-injury than 
  any other?”Boyd


Re: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game of being Christian

2004-10-12 Thread Stacy Harim
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I never mentioned color in my post because I know it's not just black women 
that do it, however they are the majority when it comes to that.  I realize 
what you are saying, but it's wrong no matter what color you are and having all 
these children knowing you don't have an honest way to support them.
Stacy
 
"People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy 
yourself"

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:41 
  AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game of 
  being Christian
  I always enjoy the discussion of women on welfare and where 
  they come from, what they do, what they get and what they have.  This 
  is indeed, the negative side to living in America.  As one travels 
  from the East Coast to the West Coast and from the South to the North, 
  they will see that racial mix of those making babies and collecting 
  benefits on the system vary greatly.  But if one looks at the 
  complete picture, minorities receive the least about of benefits.  In 
  essence, poor white women receiving benefits outnumber black women 
  receiving benefits considerably.  That in itself trashes the argument 
  against minorities.As each year goes by, I believe that many within the 
  organization really try to improve the situation.  I congratulate 
  anyone who succeeds and does well.  No matter what their racial 
  background is/or was.WIn a message dated 10/12/04 7:08:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:<< Pretty much here too.  As a matter of fact I 
  swear some women make a  living off of it.  The system 
  is all some of these women know.  They  are raised by women 
  that have babies out of wed lock.  They have 5 with  all different 
  fathers.  They go after them in court for child support and  
  count on the government for what they donât receive.Stacy 
  >>


Re: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game of being Christian

2004-10-12 Thread Boyd Jenkins
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game of being Christian



On 10/12/04 7:41 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

<snip> But if one looks at the complete picture, minorities receive 
the least about of benefits.  In essence, poor white women receiving 
benefits outnumber black women receiving benefits considerably.  
That in itself trashes the argument against minorities.  

Apparently, I’ve overlooked some email traffic posing an argument against 
minorities, but I’m prepared to accept your conclusions if they are based on 
percentile tabulations. I’ve not looked at the latest figures, but traditionally, 
the percentage of blacks on a per capita basis receiving welfare, is greater
than the percentage of whites on a per capita basis.

<snip> I congratulate anyone who succeeds and does well. 

We are most definitely of the same opinion here.

<snip> No matter what their racial background is/or was. W

It bothers me somewhat however, that some among us seem to harbour 
negative feelings about a good and honorable notable who, though wealthy, 
became a strong advocate on behalf of the spinal cord-injured everywhere. 
I would ask of you and every reader of this email: “What single, non-medicallty
trained individual has given more of himself to alleviate the scourge of spinal 
cord-injury than any other?”

Boyd







[QUAD-L] Bush plays the game of being Christian

2004-10-12 Thread wheelchair
I always enjoy the discussion of women on welfare and where they come from, 
what they do, what they get and what they have.  This is indeed, the negative 
side to living in America.  As one travels from the East Coast to the West 
Coast and from the South to the North, they will see that racial mix of those 
making babies and collecting benefits on the system vary greatly.  But if one 
looks at the complete picture, minorities receive the least about of benefits.  In 
essence, poor white women receiving benefits outnumber black women receiving 
benefits considerably.  That in itself trashes the argument against minorities.
As each year goes by, I believe that many within the organization really try 
to improve the situation.  I congratulate anyone who succeeds and does well.  
No matter what their racial background is/or was.
W
In a message dated 10/12/04 7:08:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Pretty much here too.  As a matter of fact I swear some women make a  
living 

off of it.  The system is all some of these women know.  They  are raised by 

women that have babies out of wed lock.  They have 5 with  all different 

fathers.  They go after them in court for child support and  count on the 
government 

for what they donât receive.

Stacy >>