Re: [QUAD-L] Obamacare Decision
As a Liberal, I’d give on Tort reform as long as all malpractice suits are still covered. Yes doctors need much more room. They can’t be held responsible every time something goes wrong. But if they are negligent, a person’s needs to be covered. No limit on expenses, but a limit on the pain and suffering part. I think just National Medicare, you can opt out if you want private insurance, is the best way. At least we need the “Pre existing” clause taken out, or Medicare for them. It would be great for large businesses if they didn’t have these huge overhead costs of insurance. Greg -- I visit rehab hospitals almost daily as part of my job. I don't like a lot of our current system and I don't like a lot of Obamacare. In about 72 hours we will have the SCOTUS opinion on Obamacare. My guess is the individual mandate gets ruled unconstitutional. If that's the case I hope our lawmakers can go back to the drawingboard and develop some serious, bi-partisan healthcare reform, and do it right this time. I know I'm dreaming. Two things I hope they consider: 1. tort reform. Medical malpractice suits and awards are out of hand. This is one of the biggest reasons healthcare costs have skyrocketed. Ever wonder why doctors push to have every test under the sun performed before they diagnose? Yes, the want to cover their a$$ from malpractice suits. Everytime somebody sues the hospital for $80 million everybody else foots the bill. Some lawsuits have merit, many do not. 2. Allow interstate health insurance--allow market forces to work. If you can buy your health insurance cheaper from a company in Indiana or Oregon you should be allowed to. Competition tends to keep price down. Look at how auto insurance companies compete by offering lower rates. That's a start. I wish I knew all the answers. Don.
Re: [QUAD-L] Obamacare Decision
I have never found a redeeming feature in any organized religion, so the comment about right wing religion in politics made me laugh and cry. The idea of a Just God is fine but remember, men create Justice on Earth. When in history did a religous man impart justice. The wealthy own our so called judicial system. Soon, they will own health care, too. If it is right that those who have everything should be allowed to own everything and do as they please with everything, then the rest of us must leave so they can have a place to put it all. A little note, Obamacare has not gone into affect. Lets all say it together, Bush Care Sux! It is true. many people don't have health insurance and have no way to negotiate with Dr.s and Hospitals to pay a fraction of what they are charged. Of course, they are left to file bankruptcy because they couldn't afford outragous insurance rates. A family of four pays $800.00 a month for a minimal policy and god help them if an accident befalls a child. Just paying the co-pay often bankrupts and even destroys many families. Right now, I have medicare and Medicaid and I am paying a $3000.00 loan to the bank so I don't loose my stinking little trailor and my pitifull credit and be forced into a nursing home. The money was for crap that wasn't paid on the 3 surgeries I had oct. dec. and april of this year. I'm proud that I can pay my bills. I do beg at times, but only as a last resort and I'm honest about it. Mostly, I think they just want us cripples out of sight and in nursing homes where we can be forgotten to death. They need to know we are here. I don't really support Obama no matter what many of you think. I'm a socialist. I believe everyone has a right to health care, to justice, and police protection. I don't believe our legal system works and why can't Americans go to the colleges and universities according to their grades in high school and not their parents ability to pay. Scholarships are a joke as are the huge foundations that pay out more to lawyers to run them than they will ever pay so students can get an education.
Re: [QUAD-L] Obamacare Decision
Noway! I've seen too many ding dong Dr.s to cut tort and too many wicked drugs. Drug companies knowingly put out medicine that is BS. Look at propecia? Cures baldness but cause ED. They knew it could cause birth defects if a woman touched the damn pill. Do you think a tad more study might have been in line, Naw, we need the money. So what if a few bald freaks can't get laid. Jesus. Do away with tort. NO! health insurance, everyone just pays it in their taxes and Health Insurers go down. Rich ppl can join private hospitals but no opt out. In fact, the VA could run it all. People shouldn't go broke because they got sick. If congress cant agree, maybe its time we replaced everyone in washington and start over. From: Greg g...@eskimo.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Obamacare Decision As a Liberal, I’d give on Tort reform as long as all malpractice suits are still covered. Yes doctors need much more room. They can’t be held responsible every time something goes wrong. But if they are negligent, a person’s needs to be covered. No limit on expenses, but a limit on the pain and suffering part. I think just National Medicare, you can opt out if you want private insurance, is the best way. At least we need the “Pre existing” clause taken out, or Medicare for them. It would be great for large businesses if they didn’t have these huge overhead costs of insurance. Greg -- I visit rehab hospitals almost daily as part of my job. I don't like a lot of our current system and I don't like a lot of Obamacare. In about 72 hours we will have the SCOTUS opinion on Obamacare. My guess is the individual mandate gets ruled unconstitutional. If that's the case I hope our lawmakers can go back to the drawingboard and develop some serious, bi-partisan healthcare reform, and do it right this time. I know I'm dreaming. Two things I hope they consider: 1. tort reform. Medical malpractice suits and awards are out of hand. This is one of the biggest reasons healthcare costs have skyrocketed. Ever wonder why doctors push to have every test under the sun performed before they diagnose? Yes, the want to cover their a$$ from malpractice suits. Everytime somebody sues the hospital for $80 million everybody else foots the bill. Some lawsuits have merit, many do not. 2. Allow interstate health insurance--allow market forces to work. If you can buy your health insurance cheaper from a company in Indiana or Oregon you should be allowed to. Competition tends to keep price down. Look at how auto insurance companies compete by offering lower rates. That's a start. I wish I knew all the answers. Don.
[QUAD-L] Obamacare Decision
I visit rehab hospitals almost daily as part of my job. I don't like a lot of our current system and I don't like a lot of Obamacare. In about 72 hours we will have the SCOTUS opinion on Obamacare. My guess is the individual mandate gets ruled unconstitutional. If that's the case I hope our lawmakers can go back to the drawingboard and develop some serious, bi-partisan healthcare reform, and do it right this time. I know I'm dreaming. Two things I hope they consider: 1. tort reform. Medical malpractice suits and awards are out of hand. This is one of the biggest reasons healthcare costs have skyrocketed. Ever wonder why doctors push to have every test under the sun performed before they diagnose? Yes, the want to cover their a$$ from malpractice suits. Everytime somebody sues the hospital for $80 million everybody else foots the bill. Some lawsuits have merit, many do not. 2. Allow interstate health insurance--allow market forces to work. If you can buy your health insurance cheaper from a company in Indiana or Oregon you should be allowed to. Competition tends to keep price down. Look at how auto insurance companies compete by offering lower rates. That's a start. I wish I knew all the answers. Don.
