[QUAD-L] seat cushions and pressure sores
Has anyone have problems with pressure sores and sliding forward in their chair? I recently got a Roho Hybrid Elite seat cushion. For years I have been using a regular Roho cushion with no problems . The new cushion keeps me sitting straighter. I didn't realize that I was slouching or leaning to one side or another., but now I even feel I am sitting taller. I have had a Roho for more than 30 years, I never had a pressure sore while using it For a month or so I used a foam cushion and got a pressure sore. It took me 6 months in bed but I did get rid of it. Now I am back on my Roho and thought I was doing fine. I have no pressure sores but feel I am doing better with the Elite cushion. When I had a sore I had to stay in bed and keep off my butt. I went to the wound center every week, then home and back to bed for 6 months before it was healed. Once I was back on my Roho I got my life back and was able to get out of the house. Think positive .,, Rose
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A hard cushion? How does that work, Ed? Seems like it would exacerbate the problem. It certainly is counter-intuitive, but there has to be some science behind it! Seems like it would hurt..bad! Larry Willis Retired and proud of it Begin forwarded message: > Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com > From: Ed Tessier > Date: March 28, 2015 at 3:25:47 PM EDT > To: Gmail > Cc: Don Price , Bob Vogel , Derrick > , "quad-list@eskimo.com" > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions > > I used Roho for almost 30 years without problems. I couldn't understand how > so many quads pressure sores. After a very active lifestyle and losing some > weight Roho stopped being effective. I tried everything else on the market, > EVERYTHING. I lost almost a year and a half in bed when I finally tried the > RIDE CUSHION. It is completely counterintuitive – – A HARD FOAM customized > seat. It has worked well for two years now and got me most of my life back. > >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Gmail wrote: >> Great advice! Bobbie >> >> Smile Everyday >> >>> On Mar 27, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Don Price wrote: >>> >>> I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho >>> Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been >>> much better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro. >>> >>> Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you >>> get. We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our >>> sitting position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever >>> cushion you try be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up >>> or down. >>> >>> Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.' >>> >>> Jay 2 gel: >>> Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. >>> Cons - very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam >>> base amplifies bumps as you roll. >>> >>> Roho: >>> Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent >>> customer service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!) >>> Cons - harder to clean, possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust >>> air in elevation changes. >>> >>> My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one >>> gets dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring >>> between chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. >>> Having a backup cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance >>> won't buy you a spare: >>> 1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion. >>> 2. have a fundraiser with friends to raise the money. >>> 3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have been donated >>> (we get them in our office quite often.) >>> 4. Do a gofundme webpage. >>> >>> Do whatever it takes to get two cushions! >>> >>> Don >>> Tempe, AZ >>> C5-6, 1982, diving >>> >>> From: Gmail >>> To: Bob Vogel >>> Cc: Derrick ; "quad-list@eskimo.com" >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM >>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions >>> >>> Besides, everybody sits different every single day. >>> >>> I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very >>> best for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not >>> just give it the old college try? Bobbie >>> >>> Smile Everyday >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi Derrick, >>> > >>> > In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion >>> > with >>> > four quadrants that give you a custom fit. The cushion has two buttons >>> > on the front--the green >>> > button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red >>> > button locks the >>> > air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable. >>> > >>> > As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do >>> > NOT rely on >>> > pressure mapping alone. Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most >>> > important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the >>> > cushion for an extended >>> >
RE: [QUAD-L] seat cushions
You have it right. Each person needs to find the best for them, I’ve been on the jay cushion the entire time except for trying a roho Quadtro which did not work for me as I don’t have somebody around to adjust it and it did not stabilize me enough on our rocky hillside. JHave a great day everyone Joan From: RONALD L PRACHT [mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:37 PM To: Quad-list Post Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions The key is don't change anything if you aren't getting pressure sores. Every quad is a different size, bone structure, activity level, weight, amount of transfers, pressure relief, age. So many things go into the equation. Rohos aren't any good if you don't have help maintaining the air pressure. I have had 17 years pressure sore free on 4 Jay 2 cushions. I will stick with this method until my luck changes. Ron On Saturday, March 28, 2015 2:25 PM, Ed Tessier wrote: I used Roho for almost 30 years without problems. I couldn't understand how so many quads pressure sores. After a very active lifestyle and losing some weight Roho stopped being effective. I tried everything else on the market, EVERYTHING. I lost almost a year and a half in bed when I finally tried the RIDE CUSHION. It is completely counterintuitive – – A HARD FOAM customized seat. It has worked well for two years now and got me most of my life back. On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Gmail wrote: Great advice! Bobbie Smile Everyday On Mar 27, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Don Price wrote: I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been much better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro. Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you get. We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our sitting position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever cushion you try be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up or down. Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.' Jay 2 gel: Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. Cons - very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam base amplifies bumps as you roll. Roho: Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent customer service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!) Cons - harder to clean, possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust air in elevation changes. My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one gets dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring between chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. Having a backup cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance won't buy you a spare: 1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion. 2. have a fundraiser with friends to raise the money. 3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have been donated (we get them in our office quite often.) 4. Do a gofundme webpage. Do whatever it takes to get two cushions! Don Tempe, AZ C5-6, 1982, diving _ From: Gmail To: Bob Vogel Cc: Derrick ; "quad-list@eskimo.com" Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions Besides, everybody sits different every single day. I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just give it the old college try? Bobbie Smile Everyday > On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel wrote: > > Hi Derrick, > > In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with > four quadrants that give you a custom fit. The cushion has two buttons on > the front--the green > button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button > locks the > air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable. > > As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT > rely on > pressure mapping alone. Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most > important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the > cushion for an extended > period of time. > > An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it > mapped out fantastic, > all blue and cool. However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and > hot. If I had just > relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I > would have surely > ended up with a bad pressure ulcer. > > My 2-cents. > > Bob V > >> On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote: >> >> I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Ro
Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions
The key is don't change anything if you aren't getting pressure sores. Every quad is a different size, bone structure, activity level, weight, amount of transfers, pressure relief, age. So many things go into the equation. Rohos aren't any good if you don't have help maintaining the air pressure. I have had 17 years pressure sore free on 4 Jay 2 cushions. I will stick with this method until my luck changes. Ron On Saturday, March 28, 2015 2:25 PM, Ed Tessier wrote: I used Roho for almost 30 years without problems. I couldn't understand how so many quads pressure sores. After a very active lifestyle and losing some weight Roho stopped being effective. I tried everything else on the market, EVERYTHING. I lost almost a year and a half in bed when I finally tried the RIDE CUSHION. It is completely counterintuitive – – A HARD FOAM customized seat. It has worked well for two years now and got me most of my life back. On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Gmail wrote: Great advice! Bobbie Smile Everyday On Mar 27, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Don Price wrote: I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been much better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro. Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you get. We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our sitting position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever cushion you try be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up or down. Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.' Jay 2 gel: Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. Cons - very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam base amplifies bumps as you roll. Roho:Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent customer service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!)Cons - harder to clean, possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust air in elevation changes. My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one gets dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring between chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. Having a backup cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance won't buy you a spare:1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion.2. have a fundraiser with friends to raise the money.3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have been donated (we get them in our office quite often.)4. Do a gofundme webpage. Do whatever it takes to get two cushions! Don Tempe, AZC5-6, 1982, diving From: Gmail To: Bob Vogel Cc: Derrick ; "quad-list@eskimo.com" Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions Besides, everybody sits different every single day. I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just give it the old college try? Bobbie Smile Everyday > On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel wrote: > > Hi Derrick, > > In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with > four quadrants that give you a custom fit. The cushion has two buttons on > the front--the green > button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button > locks the > air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable. > > As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT > rely on > pressure mapping alone. Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most > important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the > cushion for an extended > period of time. > > An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it > mapped out fantastic, > all blue and cool. However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and > hot. If I had just > relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I > would have surely > ended up with a bad pressure ulcer. > > My 2-cents. > > Bob V > >> On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote: >> >> I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but >> balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air >> in them. >> >> I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years. >> Is gel or air cushions more popular? >> >> Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions? >> It maps out better than Roho, supposedly. >> >> Thanks, >> Derrick W in PA >
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I used Roho for almost 30 years without problems. I couldn't understand how so many quads pressure sores. After a very active lifestyle and losing some weight Roho stopped being effective. I tried everything else on the market, EVERYTHING. I lost almost a year and a half in bed when I finally tried the RIDE CUSHION. It is completely counterintuitive – – A HARD FOAM customized seat. It has worked well for two years now and got me most of my life back. On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Gmail wrote: > Great advice! Bobbie > > Smile Everyday > > On Mar 27, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Don Price wrote: > > I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho > Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been > much better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro. > > Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you > get. We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our > sitting position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever > cushion you try be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up > or down. > > Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.' > > Jay 2 gel: > Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. > Cons - very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam > base amplifies bumps as you roll. > > Roho: > Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent > customer service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!) > Cons - harder to clean, possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust > air in elevation changes. > > My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one > gets dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring > between chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. > Having a backup cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance > won't buy you a spare: > 1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion. > 2. have a fundraiser with friends to raise the money. > 3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have been donated > (we get them in our office quite often.) > 4. Do a gofundme webpage. > > Do whatever it takes to get two cushions! > > Don > Tempe, AZ > C5-6, 1982, diving > > ------ > *From:* Gmail > *To:* Bob Vogel > *Cc:* Derrick ; "quad-list@eskimo.com" < > quad-list@eskimo.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM > *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions > > Besides, everybody sits different every single day. > > I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very > best for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not > just give it the old college try? Bobbie > > Smile Everyday > > > > > On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel wrote: > > > > Hi Derrick, > > > > In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air > cushion with > > four quadrants that give you a custom fit. The cushion has two buttons > on the front--the green > > button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red > button locks the > > air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable. > > > > As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, > do NOT rely on > > pressure mapping alone. Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most > > important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the > cushion for an extended > > period of time. > > > > An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of > cushion--it mapped out fantastic, > > all blue and cool. However at the end of the day my skin was bright red > and hot. If I had just > > relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each > night I would have surely > > ended up with a bad pressure ulcer. > > > > My 2-cents. > > > > Bob V > > > >> On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote: > >> > >> I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho > but balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper > air in them. > >> > >> I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years. > >> Is gel or air cushions more popular? > >> > >> Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions? > >> It maps out better than Roho, supposedly. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Derrick W in PA > > > > >
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Great advice! Bobbie Smile Everyday > On Mar 27, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Don Price wrote: > > I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho > Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been > much better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro. > > Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you > get. We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our > sitting position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever > cushion you try be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up > or down. > > Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.' > > Jay 2 gel: > Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. > Cons - very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam base > amplifies bumps as you roll. > > Roho: > Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent customer > service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!) > Cons - harder to clean, possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust air > in elevation changes. > > My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one gets > dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring between > chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. Having a > backup cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance won't buy you > a spare: > 1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion. > 2. have a fundraiser with friends to raise the money. > 3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have been donated (we > get them in our office quite often.) > 4. Do a gofundme webpage. > > Do whatever it takes to get two cushions! > > Don > Tempe, AZ > C5-6, 1982, diving > > From: Gmail > To: Bob Vogel > Cc: Derrick ; "quad-list@eskimo.com" > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions > > Besides, everybody sits different every single day. > > I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best > for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just > give it the old college try? Bobbie > > Smile Everyday > > > > > On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel wrote: > > > > Hi Derrick, > > > > In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion > > with > > four quadrants that give you a custom fit. The cushion has two buttons on > > the front--the green > > button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red > > button locks the > > air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable. > > > > As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do > > NOT rely on > > pressure mapping alone. Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most > > important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the > > cushion for an extended > > period of time. > > > > An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it > > mapped out fantastic, > > all blue and cool. However at the end of the day my skin was bright red > > and hot. If I had just > > relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night > > I would have surely > > ended up with a bad pressure ulcer. > > > > My 2-cents. > > > > Bob V > > > >> On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote: > >> > >> I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho > >> but balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have > >> proper air in them. > >> > >> I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years. > >> Is gel or air cushions more popular? > >> > >> Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions? > >> It maps out better than Roho, supposedly. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Derrick W in PA > > > >
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Me also Ron, been on Roho for going on 18 years, Tom and the Group there do their best to work with us customers and help meet our needs. Dan H*** On Friday, March 27, 2015 4:26 PM, Don Price wrote: I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been much better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro. Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you get. We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our sitting position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever cushion you try be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up or down. Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.' Jay 2 gel: Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. Cons - very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam base amplifies bumps as you roll. Roho:Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent customer service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!)Cons - harder to clean, possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust air in elevation changes. My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one gets dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring between chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. Having a backup cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance won't buy you a spare:1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion.2. have a fundraiser with friends to raise the money.3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have been donated (we get them in our office quite often.)4. Do a gofundme webpage. Do whatever it takes to get two cushions! Don Tempe, AZC5-6, 1982, diving From: Gmail To: Bob Vogel Cc: Derrick ; "quad-list@eskimo.com" Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions Besides, everybody sits different every single day. I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just give it the old college try? Bobbie Smile Everyday > On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel wrote: > > Hi Derrick, > > In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with > four quadrants that give you a custom fit. The cushion has two buttons on > the front--the green > button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button > locks the > air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable. > > As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT > rely on > pressure mapping alone. Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most > important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the > cushion for an extended > period of time. > > An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it > mapped out fantastic, > all blue and cool. However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and > hot. If I had just > relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I > would have surely > ended up with a bad pressure ulcer. > > My 2-cents. > > Bob V > >> On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote: >> >> I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but >> balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air >> in them. >> >> I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years. >> Is gel or air cushions more popular? >> >> Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions? >> It maps out better than Roho, supposedly. >> >> Thanks, >> Derrick W in PA >
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I always keep two Jay 2 gel cushions and about 5 cushion covers at the ready. I have exploded to Jay 2 cushions and what comes out is a mess. Ron On Friday, March 27, 2015 4:26 PM, Don Price wrote: I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been much better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro. Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you get. We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our sitting position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever cushion you try be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up or down. Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.' Jay 2 gel: Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. Cons - very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam base amplifies bumps as you roll. Roho:Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent customer service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!)Cons - harder to clean, possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust air in elevation changes. My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one gets dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring between chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. Having a backup cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance won't buy you a spare:1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion.2. have a fundraiser with friends to raise the money.3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have been donated (we get them in our office quite often.)4. Do a gofundme webpage. Do whatever it takes to get two cushions! Don Tempe, AZC5-6, 1982, diving From: Gmail To: Bob Vogel Cc: Derrick ; "quad-list@eskimo.com" Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions Besides, everybody sits different every single day. I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just give it the old college try? Bobbie Smile Everyday > On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel wrote: > > Hi Derrick, > > In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with > four quadrants that give you a custom fit. The cushion has two buttons on > the front--the green > button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button > locks the > air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable. > > As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT > rely on > pressure mapping alone. Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most > important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the > cushion for an extended > period of time. > > An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it > mapped out fantastic, > all blue and cool. However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and > hot. If I had just > relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I > would have surely > ended up with a bad pressure ulcer. > > My 2-cents. > > Bob V > >> On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote: >> >> I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but >> balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air >> in them. >> >> I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years. >> Is gel or air cushions more popular? >> >> Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions? >> It maps out better than Roho, supposedly. >> >> Thanks, >> Derrick W in PA >
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I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been much better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro. Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you get. We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our sitting position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever cushion you try be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up or down. Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.' Jay 2 gel: Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. Cons - very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam base amplifies bumps as you roll. Roho:Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent customer service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!)Cons - harder to clean, possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust air in elevation changes. My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one gets dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring between chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. Having a backup cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance won't buy you a spare:1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion.2. have a fundraiser with friends to raise the money.3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have been donated (we get them in our office quite often.)4. Do a gofundme webpage. Do whatever it takes to get two cushions! Don Tempe, AZC5-6, 1982, diving From: Gmail To: Bob Vogel Cc: Derrick ; "quad-list@eskimo.com" Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions Besides, everybody sits different every single day. I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just give it the old college try? Bobbie Smile Everyday > On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel wrote: > > Hi Derrick, > > In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with > four quadrants that give you a custom fit. The cushion has two buttons on > the front--the green > button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button > locks the > air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable. > > As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT > rely on > pressure mapping alone. Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most > important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the > cushion for an extended > period of time. > > An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it > mapped out fantastic, > all blue and cool. However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and > hot. If I had just > relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I > would have surely > ended up with a bad pressure ulcer. > > My 2-cents. > > Bob V > >> On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote: >> >> I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but >> balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air >> in them. >> >> I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years. >> Is gel or air cushions more popular? >> >> Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions? >> It maps out better than Roho, supposedly. >> >> Thanks, >> Derrick W in PA >
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Besides, everybody sits different every single day. I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just give it the old college try? Bobbie Smile Everyday > On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel wrote: > > Hi Derrick, > > In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with > four quadrants that give you a custom fit. The cushion has two buttons on > the front--the green > button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button > locks the > air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable. > > As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT > rely on > pressure mapping alone. Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most > important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the > cushion for an extended > period of time. > > An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it > mapped out fantastic, > all blue and cool. However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and > hot. If I had just > relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I > would have surely > ended up with a bad pressure ulcer. > > My 2-cents. > > Bob V > >> On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote: >> >> I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but >> balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air >> in them. >> >> I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years. >> Is gel or air cushions more popular? >> >> Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions? >> It maps out better than Roho, supposedly. >> >> Thanks, >> Derrick W in PA >
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Hi Derrick, Pressure mapping is a very individualized test. What maps great for one individual will not necessarily map well for the next individual. That is why you have so many choices of cushions on the market today! I do think pressure mapping is a valuable assessment tool, so I would encourage you to find a seating clinic that offers pressure mapping as a component of their seating assessment process so you can try a variety of cushions and narrow your choices down to what maps well for you. Based on your comment about compromised balance, if you are looking at the ROHO family of products I would point you toward the QUADTRO SELECT cushion. You can lock the air into 4 quadrants of the cushion to improve seated balance and stability. The other ROHO family option would be the Hybrid Elite cushion. This is the ROHO product that utilizes a foam base manufactured by Sunrise Medical combined with a specially fitted ROHO adjustable air pad. The foam base addresses stability, while the ROHO air pad addresses the requirement for skin protection. Feel free to contact me directly if you have any specific questions about ROHO products or services. Sincerely, Tom Tom Borcherding ROHO Inc. 100 N. Florida Ave. Belleville, IL 62221 USA t...@roho.com www.therohogroup.com 1-618-277-9173, ext. 2006 toll-free 1-800-851-3449 mobile 314-378-0051 From: Derrick To: quad-list@eskimo.com, Date: 03/26/2015 06:53 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] seat cushions I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air in them. I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years. Is gel or air cushions more popular? Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions? It maps out better than Roho, supposedly. Thanks, Derrick W in PA This e-mail contains information and/or documents from The ROHO Group, Inc. Any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
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100% agree with Bob. Please excuse any typos or brevity of tone as this was typed using an iPhone (and possibly Siri, in an effort to be as safe as possible while en route.) G On Mar 26, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Bob Vogel wrote: Hi Derrick, In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with four quadrants that give you a custom fit. The cushion has two buttons on the front--the green button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button locks the air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable. As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT rely on pressure mapping alone. Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the cushion for an extended period of time. An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it mapped out fantastic, all blue and cool. However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and hot. If I had just relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I would have surely ended up with a bad pressure ulcer. My 2-cents. Bob V > On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote: > > I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but > balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air > in them. > > I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years. > Is gel or air cushions more popular? > > Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions? > It maps out better than Roho, supposedly. > > Thanks, > Derrick W in PA
Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions
Hi Derrick, In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with four quadrants that give you a custom fit. The cushion has two buttons on the front--the green button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button locks the air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable. As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT rely on pressure mapping alone. Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the cushion for an extended period of time. An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it mapped out fantastic, all blue and cool. However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and hot. If I had just relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I would have surely ended up with a bad pressure ulcer. My 2-cents. Bob V On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote: > I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but > balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air > in them. > > I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years. > Is gel or air cushions more popular? > > Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions? > It maps out better than Roho, supposedly. > > Thanks, > Derrick W in PA >
[QUAD-L] seat cushions
I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air in them. I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years. Is gel or air cushions more popular? Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions? It maps out better than Roho, supposedly. Thanks, Derrick W in PA
