Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
My personal thing: At one time the max dosage was 100-120 mg per 24 hour period because of the possible damage to the liver, in taking oral meds. Using the pump requires a lot less medication because the bachoflen doesn't pass thru the body system first. With the pump system, the meds go directly to the leison. When I see 300mg, I have to wonder not only the effects on the spasm, but potential damage to other parts and organs in your body. I can only speculate as I am not your doctor and I hope your doctor is monitoring your meds and their process. Best Wishes In a message dated 7/29/2009 6:57:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, quad...@gmail.com writes: I'm a little shocked at the 300. I take 80 mg of baclofen a day, but that is orally. The individuals I know who have a baclofen pump tell me it requires quite a bit less than when they were taking the medicine orally. Everyone reacts differently, but I never experienced fatigue from baclofen, then again I wasn't taking it in the quantities you are. The highest I ever went to was 160 mg a day. I still take quite a bit of medicine for spasms. Baclofen doesn't seem to be that effective for me, so I end up taking 75 mg of dantrolene a day and 5 mg diazepam (Valium) a day. I managed to reduce my intake of diazepam considerably over a 2 1/2 year period, but I have reached a plateau where reducing my medication would cause too many spasms. Definitely getting to see your doctor ASAP. Good luck, Q On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Veranda Escobar _vaescob...@yahoo.com_ (mailto:vaescob...@yahoo.com) wrote: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol **Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223105306x1201716871/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D9)
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
amen On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:02 AM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: My personal thing: At one time the max dosage was 100-120 mg per 24 hour period because of the possible damage to the liver, in taking oral meds. Using the pump requires a lot less medication because the bachoflen doesn't pass thru the body system first. With the pump system, the meds go directly to the leison. When I see 300mg, I have to wonder not only the effects on the spasm, but potential damage to other parts and organs in your body. I can only speculate as I am not your doctor and I hope your doctor is monitoring your meds and their process. Best Wishes In a message dated 7/29/2009 6:57:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, quad...@gmail.com writes: I'm a little shocked at the 300. I take 80 mg of baclofen a day, but that is orally. The individuals I know who have a baclofen pump tell me it requires quite a bit less than when they were taking the medicine orally. Everyone reacts differently, but I never experienced fatigue from baclofen, then again I wasn't taking it in the quantities you are. The highest I ever went to was 160 mg a day. I still take quite a bit of medicine for spasms. Baclofen doesn't seem to be that effective for me, so I end up taking 75 mg of dantrolene a day and 5 mg diazepam (Valium) a day. I managed to reduce my intake of diazepam considerably over a 2 1/2 year period, but I have reached a plateau where reducing my medication would cause too many spasms. Definitely getting to see your doctor ASAP. Good luck, Q On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Veranda Escobar vaescob...@yahoo.comwrote: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol -- Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to Schoolhttp://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223105306x1201716871/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D9
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
- Original Message - From: Paul Pacera To: Steve Oldaker Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I take 150mg of Bachlofen daily(30mg 5xdaily),also 4mg of Zanaflex 3x daily.It has been 10yrs.I do not get tired.Paul - Original Message - From: Steve Oldaker To: 'Quadius' ; 'Veranda Escobar' Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I've taken 120mg daily (30mg 4x daily) orally for 21 years per SCI MDs direction, though FDA advises 80mg daily as the maximum dosage. I've tried cutting back slowly several times, but anything below even 100mg daily has my legs spasming out of my shoes. 120mg works for me. 300mg daily sounds close to lethal. I don't know how one functions at all at that dosage let alone being sleepy. I hope you can work things out, Veranda. Steve - C4, 21 years From: Quadius [mailto:quad...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:57 PM To: Veranda Escobar Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I'm a little shocked at the 300. I take 80 mg of baclofen a day, but that is orally. The individuals I know who have a baclofen pump tell me it requires quite a bit less than when they were taking the medicine orally. Everyone reacts differently, but I never experienced fatigue from baclofen, then again I wasn't taking it in the quantities you are. The highest I ever went to was 160 mg a day. I still take quite a bit of medicine for spasms. Baclofen doesn't seem to be that effective for me, so I end up taking 75 mg of dantrolene a day and 5 mg diazepam (Valium) a day. I managed to reduce my intake of diazepam considerably over a 2 1/2 year period, but I have reached a plateau where reducing my medication would cause too many spasms. Definitely getting to see your doctor ASAP. Good luck, Q On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Veranda Escobar vaescob...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.35/2271 - Release Date: 07/29/09 18:07:00
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
Thanks Paul. Do you have your liver ultrasound every two years too? Best Wishes In a message dated 7/30/2009 6:02:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pau...@comcast.net writes: - Original Message - From: _Paul Pacera_ (mailto:pau...@comcast.net) To: _Steve Oldaker_ (mailto:steve.olda...@comcast.net) Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I take 150mg of Bachlofen daily(30mg 5xdaily),also 4mg of Zanaflex 3x daily.It has been 10yrs.I do not get tired.Paul - Original Message - From: _Steve Oldaker_ (mailto:steve.olda...@comcast.net) To: _'Quadius'_ (mailto:quad...@gmail.com) ; _'Veranda Escobar'_ (mailto:vaescob...@yahoo.com) Cc: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I've taken 120mg daily (30mg 4x daily) orally for 21 years per SCI MDs direction, though FDA advises 80mg daily as the maximum dosage. I've tried cutting back slowly several times, but anything below even 100mg daily has my legs spasming out of my shoes. 120mg works for me. 300mg daily sounds close to lethal. I don't know how one functions at all at that dosage let alone being sleepy. I hope you can work things out, Veranda. Steve - C4, 21 years From: Quadius [mailto:quad...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:57 PM To: Veranda Escobar Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I'm a little shocked at the 300. I take 80 mg of baclofen a day, but that is orally. The individuals I know who have a baclofen pump tell me it requires quite a bit less than when they were taking the medicine orally. Everyone reacts differently, but I never experienced fatigue from baclofen, then again I wasn't taking it in the quantities you are. The highest I ever went to was 160 mg a day. I still take quite a bit of medicine for spasms. Baclofen doesn't seem to be that effective for me, so I end up taking 75 mg of dantrolene a day and 5 mg diazepam (Valium) a day. I managed to reduce my intake of diazepam considerably over a 2 1/2 year period, but I have reached a plateau where reducing my medication would cause too many spasms. Definitely getting to see your doctor ASAP. Good luck, Q On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Veranda Escobar _vaescob...@yahoo.com_ (mailto:vaescob...@yahoo.com) wrote: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.35/2271 - Release Date: 07/29/09 18:07:00 **Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223105306x1201716871/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D9)
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
No I don't.Every three years. - Original Message - From: wheelch...@aol.com To: pau...@comcast.net ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen Thanks Paul. Do you have your liver ultrasound every two years too? Best Wishes In a message dated 7/30/2009 6:02:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pau...@comcast.net writes: - Original Message - From: Paul Pacera To: Steve Oldaker Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I take 150mg of Bachlofen daily(30mg 5xdaily),also 4mg of Zanaflex 3x daily.It has been 10yrs.I do not get tired.Paul - Original Message - From: Steve Oldaker To: 'Quadius' ; 'Veranda Escobar' Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I've taken 120mg daily (30mg 4x daily) orally for 21 years per SCI MDs direction, though FDA advises 80mg daily as the maximum dosage. I've tried cutting back slowly several times, but anything below even 100mg daily has my legs spasming out of my shoes. 120mg works for me. 300mg daily sounds close to lethal. I don't know how one functions at all at that dosage let alone being sleepy. I hope you can work things out, Veranda. Steve - C4, 21 years From: Quadius [mailto:quad...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:57 PM To: Veranda Escobar Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I'm a little shocked at the 300. I take 80 mg of baclofen a day, but that is orally. The individuals I know who have a baclofen pump tell me it requires quite a bit less than when they were taking the medicine orally. Everyone reacts differently, but I never experienced fatigue from baclofen, then again I wasn't taking it in the quantities you are. The highest I ever went to was 160 mg a day. I still take quite a bit of medicine for spasms. Baclofen doesn't seem to be that effective for me, so I end up taking 75 mg of dantrolene a day and 5 mg diazepam (Valium) a day. I managed to reduce my intake of diazepam considerably over a 2 1/2 year period, but I have reached a plateau where reducing my medication would cause too many spasms. Definitely getting to see your doctor ASAP. Good luck, Q On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Veranda Escobar vaescob...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.35/2271 - Release Date: 07/29/09 18:07:00 -- Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.37/2273 - Release Date: 07/30/09 18:09:00
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
I'm a little shocked at the 300. I take 80 mg of baclofen a day, but that is orally. The individuals I know who have a baclofen pump tell me it requires quite a bit less than when they were taking the medicine orally. Everyone reacts differently, but I never experienced fatigue from baclofen, then again I wasn't taking it in the quantities you are. The highest I ever went to was 160 mg a day. I still take quite a bit of medicine for spasms. Baclofen doesn't seem to be that effective for me, so I end up taking 75 mg of dantrolene a day and 5 mg diazepam (Valium) a day. I managed to reduce my intake of diazepam considerably over a 2 1/2 year period, but I have reached a plateau where reducing my medication would cause too many spasms. Definitely getting to see your doctor ASAP. Good luck, Q On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Veranda Escobar vaescob...@yahoo.comwrote: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol
RE: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
I've taken 120mg daily (30mg 4x daily) orally for 21 years per SCI MDs direction, though FDA advises 80mg daily as the maximum dosage. I've tried cutting back slowly several times, but anything below even 100mg daily has my legs spasming out of my shoes. 120mg works for me. 300mg daily sounds close to lethal. I don't know how one functions at all at that dosage let alone being sleepy. I hope you can work things out, Veranda. Steve - C4, 21 years From: Quadius [mailto:quad...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:57 PM To: Veranda Escobar Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I'm a little shocked at the 300. I take 80 mg of baclofen a day, but that is orally. The individuals I know who have a baclofen pump tell me it requires quite a bit less than when they were taking the medicine orally. Everyone reacts differently, but I never experienced fatigue from baclofen, then again I wasn't taking it in the quantities you are. The highest I ever went to was 160 mg a day. I still take quite a bit of medicine for spasms. Baclofen doesn't seem to be that effective for me, so I end up taking 75 mg of dantrolene a day and 5 mg diazepam (Valium) a day. I managed to reduce my intake of diazepam considerably over a 2 1/2 year period, but I have reached a plateau where reducing my medication would cause too many spasms. Definitely getting to see your doctor ASAP. Good luck, Q On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Veranda Escobar vaescob...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
Hopefully you don't mean 320 mg of Baclofen a day. 10mg twice a day was about all I could take without falling asleep every time I sat still. My waking spasms have now settled down after 42 years of this crap. Sleeping/lying spasms still bother me but the med-head bothers me too much to kill them with drugs. Just experiment to find the right balance for you. No Dr. can guess right the 1st time. You are the feed-back mechanism. AZDAVE Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. _Dave Patty's Grandkids_ (http://ocgrands.com/) In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:26:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, vaescob...@yahoo.com writes: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol **A bad credit score is 600 below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823322x1201398723/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgI D=62bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62)
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
Try medical marijuana..no joke.it totally worksit really is incredible. Paul c5/6 complete - Original Message - From: dav...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen Hopefully you don't mean 320 mg of Baclofen a day. 10mg twice a day was about all I could take without falling asleep every time I sat still. My waking spasms have now settled down after 42 years of this crap. Sleeping/lying spasms still bother me but the med-head bothers me too much to kill them with drugs. Just experiment to find the right balance for you. No Dr. can guess right the 1st time. You are the feed-back mechanism. AZDAVE Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. Dave Patty's Grandkids In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:26:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, vaescob...@yahoo.com writes: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol --
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
The stuff you grow in the back yard works well too. :) Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. _Dave Patty's Grandkids_ (http://ocgrands.com/) In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:51:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, pjacob...@san.rr.com writes: Try medical marijuana..no joke.it totally worksit really is incredible. Paul c5/6 complete - Original Message - From: _dav...@aol.com_ (mailto:dav...@aol.com) To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen Hopefully you don't mean 320 mg of Baclofen a day. 10mg twice a day was about all I could take without falling asleep every time I sat still. My waking spasms have now settled down after 42 years of this crap. Sleeping/lying spasms still bother me but the med-head bothers me too much to kill them with drugs. Just experiment to find the right balance for you. No Dr. can guess right the 1st time. You are the feed-back mechanism. AZDAVE Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. _Dave Patty's Grandkids_ (http://ocgrands.com/) In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:26:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, vaescob...@yahoo.com writes: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol **A bad credit score is 600 below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823322x1201398723/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgI D=62bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62)
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
Bachoflen, is a prescribed drug. If you are having these symptoms you should be talking with your doctor before you downgrade the dosage. Bachoflen is that powerful of a drug. No one here should tell you otherwise (Michael Jackson Syndrome). Contact Your Primary Doctor FIRST. Best Wishes In a message dated 7/28/2009 2:26:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, vaescob...@yahoo.com writes: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol **A bad credit score is 600 below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823322x1201398723/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgI D=62bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62)
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
One thing you need to do is before you even upped your baclofen was to find out why your getting the sweats n spasms, usually alot of times taking more medicine hides whats really wrong.(the sweats n spasms or A.D. is usually our body telling us something is wrong) I took myself off (slowly) but 60mg of baclofen from 160mg the only reason I needed so much at the time was cause I broke my leg. One thing about baclofen is it lowers your blood pressure and you need to remember also its hard on the digestive system and liver. It will make you very sleepy because its a type of relaxer. You need to talk w/ your doctor and see if there's something wrong w/ your back you might have done something to it and not realized it or maybe the way your laying in bed or could be your bed, but just taking more medicine is not always a good idea, your just masking the problem. Maybe try something else becoz thats alot of baclofen and sounds like causing more problems. Regina Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and No one can know what they can do until they try. --- On Tue, 7/28/09, dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com wrote: From: dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:01 PM The stuff you grow in the back yard works well too. :) Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. Dave Patty's Grandkids In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:51:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, pjacob...@san.rr.com writes: Try medical marijuana..no joke.it totally worksit really is incredible. Paul c5/6 complete - Original Message - From: dav...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen Hopefully you don't mean 320 mg of Baclofen a day. 10mg twice a day was about all I could take without falling asleep every time I sat still. My waking spasms have now settled down after 42 years of this crap. Sleeping/lying spasms still bother me but the med-head bothers me too much to kill them with drugs. Just experiment to find the right balance for you. No Dr. can guess right the 1st time. You are the feed-back mechanism. AZDAVE Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. Dave Patty's Grandkids In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:26:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, vaescob...@yahoo.com writes: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol
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For me, weed does wonders at reducing AD, but are you saying it helps you reduce spasms too? Has it been demonstrated as effective (like it has for Glaucoma, for example)? If not, any researchers listening (on this list)? 420! bobq At 04:01 PM 7/28/2009, dav...@aol.com wrote: The stuff you grow in the back yard works well too. :) Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. http://ocgrands.com/Dave Patty's Grandkids In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:51:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, pjacob...@san.rr.com writes: Try medical marijuana..no joke.it totally worksit really is incredible. Paul c5/6 complete - Original Message - From: mailto:dav...@aol.comdav...@aol.com To: mailto:quad-list@eskimo.comquad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen Hopefully you don't mean 320 mg of Baclofen a day. 10mg twice a day was about all I could take without falling asleep every time I sat still. My waking spasms have now settled down after 42 years of this crap. Sleeping/lying spasms still bother me but the med-head bothers me too much to kill them with drugs. Just experiment to find the right balance for you. No Dr. can guess right the 1st time. You are the feed-back mechanism. AZDAVE Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. http://ocgrands.com/Dave Patty's Grandkids In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:26:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, vaescob...@yahoo.com writes: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol -- --
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I agree with this guy. I can also relate to the pain. My doctor explained to me that there is no cure for nerve pain. That bacloflen and nerontin, stimulate a different pat of your brain to kind cover up the pain. But have side effects, fatigue, cognitive and memory laps or loss. For me, I am in pain from the moment I wake up until I fall asleep. I have to take Ambien to fall asleep, or like you I am up for days. What have for me that helps is water and exercise. A bath and a Chiropractic adjustment. Honestly, I need to work on the excersise part. Hope this helps I know how hard it is to focus when your tired and in pain, I will keep you in my prayers. Maggie C-6/7 One thing you need to do is before you even upped your baclofen was to find out why your getting the sweats n spasms, usually alot of times taking more medicine hides whats really wrong.(the sweats n spasms or A.D. is usually our body telling us something is wrong) I took myself off (slowly) but 60mg of baclofen from 160mg the only reason I needed so much at the time was cause I broke my leg. One thing about baclofen is it lowers your blood pressure and you need to remember also its hard on the digestive system and liver. It will make you very sleepy because its a type of relaxer. You need to talk w/ your doctor and see if there's something wrong w/ your back you might have done something to it and not realized it or maybe the way your laying in bed or could be your bed, but just taking more medicine is not always a good idea, your just masking the problem. Maybe try something else becoz thats alot of baclofen and sounds like causing more problems. Regina Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and No one can know what they can do until they try. --- On Tue, 7/28/09, dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com wrote: From: dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:01 PM The stuff you grow in the back yard works well too. :) Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. Dave Patty's Grandkids In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:51:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, pjacob...@san.rr.com writes: Try medical marijuana..no joke.it totally worksit really is incredible. Paul c5/6 complete - Original Message - From: dav...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen Hopefully you don't mean 320 mg of Baclofen a day. 10mg twice a day was about all I could take without falling asleep every time I sat still. My waking spasms have now settled down after 42 years of this crap. Sleeping/lying spasms still bother me but the med-head bothers me too much to kill them with drugs. Just experiment to find the right balance for you. No Dr. can guess right the 1st time. You are the feed-back mechanism. AZDAVE Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. Dave Patty's Grandkids In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:26:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, vaescob...@yahoo.com writes: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol
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Thanks guys I just like to hear you'lls opinion. I will be making a appt waiting now for call back. I think i'll downgrade it too 300. I'm just way to sleepy. Then working 40 hrs a week makes it so much harder. And i cant down grade it since its in my pump so bk to the doc i go. Thanks for the prayers margarita i need them right now. I'm about to pull my hair out. From: Margarita Elizondo blessed_with_l...@yahoo.com To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:01:22 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I agree with this guy. I can also relate to the pain. My doctor explained to me that there is no cure for nerve pain. That bacloflen and nerontin, stimulate a different pat of your brain to kind cover up the pain. But have side effects, fatigue, cognitive and memory laps or loss. For me, I am in pain from the moment I wake up until I fall asleep. I have to take Ambien to fall asleep, or like you I am up for days. What have for me that helps is water and exercise. A bath and a Chiropractic adjustment. Honestly, I need to work on the excersise part. Hope this helps I know how hard it is to focus when your tired and in pain, I will keep you in my prayers. Maggie C-6/7 One thing you need to do is before you even upped your baclofen was to find out why your getting the sweats n spasms, usually alot of times taking more medicine hides whats really wrong.(the sweats n spasms or A.D. is usually our body telling us something is wrong) I took myself off (slowly) but 60mg of baclofen from 160mg the only reason I needed so much at the time was cause I broke my leg. One thing about baclofen is it lowers your blood pressure and you need to remember also its hard on the digestive system and liver. It will make you very sleepy because its a type of relaxer. You need to talk w/ your doctor and see if there's something wrong w/ your back you might have done something to it and not realized it or maybe the way your laying in bed or could be your bed, but just taking more medicine is not always a good idea, your just masking the problem. Maybe try something else becoz thats alot of baclofen and sounds like causing more problems. Regina Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and No one can know what they can do until they try. --- On Tue, 7/28/09, dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com wrote: From: dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:01 PM The stuff you grow in the back yard works well too. :) Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. Dave Patty's Grandkids In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:51:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, pjacob...@san.rr.com writes: Try medical marijuana..no joke.it totally worksit really is incredible. Paul c5/6 complete - Original Message - From: dav...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen Hopefully you don't mean 320 mg of Baclofen a day. 10mg twice a day was about all I could take without falling asleep every time I sat still.. My waking spasms have now settled down after 42 years of this crap. Sleeping/lying spasms still bother me but the med-head bothers me too much to kill them with drugs. Just experiment to find the right balance for you. No Dr. can guess right the 1st time. You are the feed-back mechanism. AZDAVE Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. Dave Patty's Grandkids In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:26:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, vaescob...@yahoo.com writes: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy.. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol
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Do any of you get itchy ears and face from baclofen? I itch like crazy, Mike~ Please check out my paintings at: www.MurGallery.com -Original Message- From: Veranda Escobar [mailto:vaescob...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:33 PM To: Margarita Elizondo; quad-list Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen Thanks guys I just like to hear you'lls opinion. I will be making a appt waiting now for call back. I think i'll downgrade it too 300. I'm just way to sleepy. Then working 40 hrs a week makes it so much harder. And i cant down grade it since its in my pump so bk to the doc i go. Thanks for the prayers margarita i need them right now. I'm about to pull my hair out. _ From: Margarita Elizondo blessed_with_l...@yahoo.com To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:01:22 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I agree with this guy. I can also relate to the pain. My doctor explained to me that there is no cure for nerve pain. That bacloflen and nerontin, stimulate a different pat of your brain to kind cover up the pain. But have side effects, fatigue, cognitive and memory laps or loss. For me, I am in pain from the moment I wake up until I fall asleep. I have to take Ambien to fall asleep, or like you I am up for days. What have for me that helps is water and exercise. A bath and a Chiropractic adjustment. Honestly, I need to work on the excersise part. Hope this helps I know how hard it is to focus when your tired and in pain, I will keep you in my prayers. Maggie C-6/7 One thing you need to do is before you even upped your baclofen was to find out why your getting the sweats n spasms, usually alot of times taking more medicine hides whats really wrong.(the sweats n spasms or A.D. is usually our body telling us something is wrong) I took myself off (slowly) but 60mg of baclofen from 160mg the only reason I needed so much at the time was cause I broke my leg. One thing about baclofen is it lowers your blood pressure and you need to remember also its hard on the digestive system and liver. It will make you very sleepy because its a type of relaxer. You need to talk w/ your doctor and see if there's something wrong w/ your back you might have done something to it and not realized it or maybe the way your laying in bed or could be your bed, but just taking more medicine is not always a good idea, your just masking the problem. Maybe try something else becoz thats alot of baclofen and sounds like causing more problems. Regina Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and No one can know what they can do until they try. --- On Tue, 7/28/09, dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com wrote: From: dav...@aol.com dav...@aol.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:01 PM The stuff you grow in the back yard works well too. :) Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. Dave http://ocgrands.com/ Patty's Grandkids In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:51:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, pjacob...@san.rr.com writes: Try medical marijuana..no joke.it totally worksit really is incredible. Paul c5/6 complete - Original Message - From: dav...@aol.com http://us.mc842.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dav...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com http://us..mc842.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=quad-l...@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen Hopefully you don't mean 320 mg of Baclofen a day. 10mg twice a day was about all I could take without falling asleep every time I sat still.. My waking spasms have now settled down after 42 years of this crap. Sleeping/lying spasms still bother me but the med-head bothers me too much to kill them with drugs. Just experiment to find the right balance for you. No Dr. can guess right the 1st time. You are the feed-back mechanism. AZDAVE Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. Dave http://ocgrands.com/ Patty's Grandkids In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:26:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, vaescob...@yahoo.com writes: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared
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i had and still have sweats and spasms when I get in my chair. I have been working at getting a new chair for about 14 months. When I was at a fitting last week I noticed the new chair caused me to stop sweating. That happened when I replaced the last chair. When I begin the sweats it is usually a deformity getting worse. It is AD and if you find what is causing the irritation or pain you may not need any new drugs. It is strange that a chair can stop the pain. I swear it is much more comfortable than slamming vicodins and Oxy's. With quads, chairs MUST fit. From what you said about your leg, it may not be properly supported or guarded. Best Wishes, john From: bob quinn r...@sockets.com To: dav...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:59:18 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen For me, weed does wonders at reducing AD, but are you saying it helps you reduce spasms too? Has it been demonstrated as effective (like it has for Glaucoma, for example)? If not, any researchers listening (on this list)? 420! bobq At 04:01 PM 7/28/2009, dav...@aol.com wrote: The stuff you grow in the back yard works well too. :) Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. Dave Patty's Grandkids In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:51:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, pjacob...@san.rr.com writes: Try medical marijuana..no joke.it totally worksit really is incredible. Paul c5/6 complete - Original Message - From: dav...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen Hopefully you don't mean 320 mg of Baclofen a day. 10mg twice a day was about all I could take without falling asleep every time I sat still. My waking spasms have now settled down after 42 years of this crap. Sleeping/lying spasms still bother me but the med-head bothers me too much to kill them with drugs. Just experiment to find the right balance for you. No Dr. can guess right the 1st time. You are the feed-back mechanism. AZDAVE Young people talk of the future because they have no past, Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol while old people talk of the past because they have no future. Dave Patty's Grandkids In a message dated 7/28/2009 12:26:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, vaescob...@yahoo.com writes:
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Yes, a number of muscle relaxer type meds have made my face itch. But I was so tired for how little they helped me, I topped taking them. My pain meds helped with spasms almost completely. Greg _ Do any of you get itchy ears and face from baclofen? I itch like crazy,
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Pain meds knock the bad spasms out for me too when I'm having pain. Fortunately I don't get bad pain too often. I've tried to get by with otc pain meds but they're just not strong enough. Tim C5 36yrs http://thequadlink.com --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Greg g...@eskimo.com wrote: From: Greg g...@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 4:57 PM Yes, a number of muscle relaxer type meds have made my face itch. But I was so tired for how little they helped me, I topped taking them. My pain meds helped with spasms almost completely. Greg Do any of you get itchy ears and face from baclofen? I itch like crazy,
