Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life
Mostly agree. Bottom line... There HAS TO BE a leader of the pack. A dog UNDERSTANDS THIS from instinct. If you want a good pet, a great canine family member, or a service dog -- SOMEONE has to be the pack leader. And ANY unwanted behavior *all stems from that.* Watch at least 10 episodes of The Dog Whisperer (Cesar Milan) who teaches that. INCLUDING priming them for being/staying a service dog. Like a child (subconciously) they want and NEED and live wonderfully WITHIN SET BOUNDARIES. Otherwise it can be chaos and a form of abuse in my opinion. Lori On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 7:15 PM, John S. wrote: > Just speaking as a dog lover, I think it is important that anyone > considering a service dog think about their responsibility toward the dog. > Don't say things like, "my dog doesn't bite" any dog bites. If your dog is > growling at other dogs there is a lack of leadership in his life and out of > frustration, the dog has assumed the mantle. This is a serious problem and > your dog needs to socialize more and stop making decisions. He is a devout > follower and in dire need of leadership around you and other dogs. Stop the > lovey dovey stuff and start controlling him. He is a dog and will only be > happy as a dog. Service dogs are not pets and should not be a family toy or > pet. This is exactly why so many trainers refuse to give up dogs to > handicapped people and sell them to drug enforcement or police K9 units. > if you don't walk a service dog twice a day and establish a routine of > training, your dogs talents are being abused. You must do it. It is your job > as much as it is his. You decide where he can go potty. You decide virtually > everything including his punishment for growling at other dogs. A simple > jerk on the leash may be enough, but it must be consistant and timely. I > don't care if you have a bedsore. That dog has given his life to serve you. > If you haven't got the health to care for him, pass him on to a master who > does and will. > I hear people argue about electronic collars being cruel, but what is > truely inhumane is people that pretend their dog is a person and not take > the time to train it. If all you need is a dog to love, go get a dog from > the pound and buy ceasar milan's books. If you have a service dog than you > have been told your obligation to that animal. > > Happy New Year > john. > > --- On *Sun, 12/28/08, Eric W Rudd * wrote: > > From: Eric W Rudd > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life > To: quad-list@eskimo.com > Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 11:41 PM > > > exceptional prelude...calm submissive. > > Eric W Rudd > c5sc...@gmail.com > > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Merrill > *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:44 PM > *Subject:* FW: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life > > You need a refresher class for your dog, but important is YOU.. Being an > assertive strong leader is often hard for higher injuries, but it is > necessary. Your dog has challenged you and believes you not assertive nor a > leader which is why it feels necessary to take charge. This can be either a > challenge to you or a time of reconing and resignation. You can do it. If > frustration is your only short coming, your energy of take charge with > committed work activates daily with your dog will turn your dogs behavior in > short time. > > > > The service dog performs best on a short leech about 20" long. That leech > is a conduit from how you feel and act yourself, and to the dog. Lots of > communication going on. This challenge is on going and will bring the best > out of you if it is going to work. > > > > Merrill > -- > > *From:* chippyhe...@aol.com [mailto:chippyhe...@aol.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, December 25, 2008 2:36 PM > *To:* merril...@cox.net; lwillis82...@msn.com > *Cc:* quad-list@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life > > > > I am very interested in hearing what everybody has to say about the service > dog life. I have a C6 complete injury and I ended up going to a private > organization for my service animal because there was no more waiting list at > the places I applied. My service dog was supposed to be three years old > which would make her seven years old now, the veterinarian agrees with me > that she is at least 11 or 12. She is starting to act aggressive towards > other dogs, hackels up and barking, although she would never hurt anyone or > anything. I just moved to a place where I can go anywhere I want any time > and now I cannot go because she acts like this. It seems like one day I am > so frustrated that I want to give her another home and the n
Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life
Just speaking as a dog lover, I think it is important that anyone considering a service dog think about their responsibility toward the dog. Don't say things like, "my dog doesn't bite" any dog bites. If your dog is growling at other dogs there is a lack of leadership in his life and out of frustration, the dog has assumed the mantle. This is a serious problem and your dog needs to socialize more and stop making decisions. He is a devout follower and in dire need of leadership around you and other dogs. Stop the lovey dovey stuff and start controlling him. He is a dog and will only be happy as a dog. Service dogs are not pets and should not be a family toy or pet. This is exactly why so many trainers refuse to give up dogs to handicapped people and sell them to drug enforcement or police K9 units. if you don't walk a service dog twice a day and establish a routine of training, your dogs talents are being abused. You must do it. It is your job as much as it is his. You decide where he can go potty. You decide virtually everything including his punishment for growling at other dogs. A simple jerk on the leash may be enough, but it must be consistant and timely. I don't care if you have a bedsore. That dog has given his life to serve you. If you haven't got the health to care for him, pass him on to a master who does and will. I hear people argue about electronic collars being cruel, but what is truely inhumane is people that pretend their dog is a person and not take the time to train it. If all you need is a dog to love, go get a dog from the pound and buy ceasar milan's books. If you have a service dog than you have been told your obligation to that animal. Happy New Year john. --- On Sun, 12/28/08, Eric W Rudd wrote: From: Eric W Rudd Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 11:41 PM exceptional prelude...calm submissive. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Merrill To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life You need a refresher class for your dog, but important is YOU.. Being an assertive strong leader is often hard for higher injuries, but it is necessary. Your dog has challenged you and believes you not assertive nor a leader which is why it feels necessary to take charge. This can be either a challenge to you or a time of reconing and resignation. You can do it. If frustration is your only short coming, your energy of take charge with committed work activates daily with your dog will turn your dogs behavior in short time. The service dog performs best on a short leech about 20” long. That leech is a conduit from how you feel and act yourself, and to the dog. Lots of communication going on. This challenge is on going and will bring the best out of you if it is going to work. Merrill From: chippyhe...@aol.com [mailto:chippyhe...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 2:36 PM To: merril...@cox.net; lwillis82...@msn.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life I am very interested in hearing what everybody has to say about the service dog life. I have a C6 complete injury and I ended up going to a private organization for my service animal because there was no more waiting list at the places I applied. My service dog was supposed to be three years old which would make her seven years old now, the veterinarian agrees with me that she is at least 11 or 12. She is starting to act aggressive towards other dogs, hackels up and barking, although she would never hurt anyone or anything. I just moved to a place where I can go anywhere I want any time and now I cannot go because she acts like this. It seems like one day I am so frustrated that I want to give her another home and the next day I feel guilty for even thinking about giving her away. I can't go anywhere without her and they can't take her anywhere. Take care and play nice Tammie Lou chippertue.com Chippertue's World In a message dated 12/22/2008 11:36:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, merril...@cox.net writes: Error! Cannot read or display file.Error! Cannot read or display file. My first service dog came to me through an organization. Years after she passed on I was turned down for a successor dog because they thought at C5 I was too sick. So, I thought if I treat my puppy as a service dog, with lots of work and training that in time she would become one. With my physical limitations getting rewards fast enough was impossible so the clicker training technique worked well for us. I was surprised to what a good dog my golden had become even though she was not the class act as my first dog. Do you live mostly indoors confined to mostly your dg’s company? My health is not what it was, and at times I do feel tha
Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life
exceptional prelude...calm submissive. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Merrill To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life You need a refresher class for your dog, but important is YOU.. Being an assertive strong leader is often hard for higher injuries, but it is necessary. Your dog has challenged you and believes you not assertive nor a leader which is why it feels necessary to take charge. This can be either a challenge to you or a time of reconing and resignation. You can do it. If frustration is your only short coming, your energy of take charge with committed work activates daily with your dog will turn your dogs behavior in short time. The service dog performs best on a short leech about 20" long. That leech is a conduit from how you feel and act yourself, and to the dog. Lots of communication going on. This challenge is on going and will bring the best out of you if it is going to work. Merrill -- From: chippyhe...@aol.com [mailto:chippyhe...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 2:36 PM To: merril...@cox.net; lwillis82...@msn.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life I am very interested in hearing what everybody has to say about the service dog life. I have a C6 complete injury and I ended up going to a private organization for my service animal because there was no more waiting list at the places I applied. My service dog was supposed to be three years old which would make her seven years old now, the veterinarian agrees with me that she is at least 11 or 12. She is starting to act aggressive towards other dogs, hackels up and barking, although she would never hurt anyone or anything. I just moved to a place where I can go anywhere I want any time and now I cannot go because she acts like this. It seems like one day I am so frustrated that I want to give her another home and the next day I feel guilty for even thinking about giving her away. I can't go anywhere without her and they can't take her anywhere. Take care and play nice Tammie Lou chippertue.com Chippertue's World In a message dated 12/22/2008 11:36:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, merril...@cox.net writes: Error! Cannot read or display file.Error! Cannot read or display file. My first service dog came to me through an organization. Years after she passed on I was turned down for a successor dog because they thought at C5 I was too sick. So, I thought if I treat my puppy as a service dog, with lots of work and training that in time she would become one. With my physical limitations getting rewards fast enough was impossible so the clicker training technique worked well for us. I was surprised to what a good dog my golden had become even though she was not the class act as my first dog. Do you live mostly indoors confined to mostly your dg's company? My health is not what it was, and at times I do feel that I am not satisfying all her needs. Last month this family cared for her for several weeks. Wonderful people. They had given my dog such care I never could which has made my dog so very happy. My point to all of this is I am interested in how active you are and if you too are shut indoors most of the day? I am feeling so self centered taking her back now that it is time for her to return because I cannot compete to her life with a really family much more active than I. Do you believe that it is true I am all she wants? Do you have a strong family or supportive people around you which helps not being restrictive? Was the service dog organization right in their judgment of me in your mind? Merrill From: William Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:03 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] Exercise Joan, you are one tough cookie. I am a c-5 and I don't think I have anything near your gumption and zest. Hang tough and God bless. Willis Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:04:32 -0500 To: quad-list@eskimo.com From: d...@unh.edu Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Exercise Way to go Joan! Dan At 11:33 PM 12/21/2008, Joan Anglin said something that elicited my response: Lucinda I am a C4 complete. October 1990, fell off scaffolding in my barn. Shoulder shrug is it. I have had to have three tracheotomies, but fortunately for me I was able to get off of each trach within a couple of weeks. I have an omega trac wheelchair, very powerful even if it is not very fast, and have not tipped myself over sinc
Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life
wow thats hard to believe you were denied a service dog. maybe they thought you being sick was you going to the hospitol alot and where would you put the dog? as for me, i had a dog b4 my c-6 injury back in 02'. a big white shepard named gus. it will be two years in july of 09' since i put him down of old age and deteriating discs in his back.no hip dysplasia tho thank god. a few years ago, i had susquahanna service dogs from carliale,pa come to the house (carbon county, pa.)with one of thier demo dogs for me to check out.they are about 120 miles down the line from me.they were very willing to offer me a dog. now that i am ready for another one, i was thinking this summer of doing it. i guess i fit the criteria...i live alone, hands dont work, i drop stuff religously,found an organization to pay for most of it. all i have to do is get references and stay down there for the two week training program thatt you have to go thru w/ them. the only thing holding me back is i am not a yellow lab fan. but i have come to terms with if i do decide to aquire another dog, it should work with me and not be a liability.and i have saved enuf money for the hotel/motel and expences down there. i rescued a tottally emaciated young pitbull last summer and i am very sorry i didnt keep him. he was a great dog after 7 weeks with me.sttill regret getting him a good home. but i guess a service dog would be the best bet.maybe i could get them to do a chocolate for me. or maybe i should just be gratefull for the yellow.regardless i was very impressed with what the dog was capable of. it picked up a dime off of my living room carpet to remotes to openng closing doors and also getting the phone,turning off light switches.gonna wait till the weather clears a bit. then i am gonna get one. but i believe if you want a different breed i dont think it would be that bad to get one and train it yourself, like we dont have the time, right. but i do no want to go thru the puppy stage ever again. and the organization doesnt work with puppies. they do breed thier own dogs and foster them for i think a year or a year and a half b4 they start the exstensive training on them. then you go, and whatever your needs are they pick the dog that will do the most for you. - Original Message - From: Quadius To: LTeasley Cc: Joan Anglin ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life Somebody once posted a site where you could go and try to get a job as a disabled person working from home. It seemed like the IRS was the primary employer, but it didn't look feasible in my situation. It may, however, work out for you. I have lost the link, but perhaps the person who put it on here might do so again. I believe it might have been KK, but it has been quite a while. Q On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 7:21 PM, LTeasley wrote: hi Joan, I saved your response from the question I sent you earlier. I've been trying to think of a way to express how impressed I am. Then I get this. Joan, you blow me away! I turned 47 on the 14th of December, and I have had such a struggle with what to do now. Having only been a quad for just over three years, and waiting tables or working in an in-home childcare center prior to my accident, I have no idea where to turn. Alot of people in my life suggest going to school, which I have not done now for 25 1/2 years. I was registered to start for the first time in 22 years one month after my accident. The field I was looking into going to school for, does not seem even remotely appealing, nor do I think it would any longer be a good fit for me. I would like to look into something that might be recession proof, but what is these days? friends mentioned that I should go into volunteer work, but that doesn't pay. How do you do what you do? I'm scared as hell to get out there in the big bad world. In between a nonexistent family, and PCAs that don't show up on time in the morning, or sometimes at all, I'd never be able to get ready for class or work. What's a kid to do, eh? Lucinda C-45 complete? July 31,' 05. Minneapolis, Minnesota When I was first injured I applied for a service dog, and they told me they had never trained a dog for my level. They suggested that I train my own dog, but as you all know the first couple of years is usually taken up with learning how to live in our new bodies-and mindset too. My youngest daughter was only 15, and we were into showing horses, so that is what we did for four years. Then life just took over, I designed and had a house built for myself-luckily my family could do it, so labor was free. I had sold my original house, so I was able to
Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life
Somebody once posted a site where you could go and try to get a job as a disabled person working from home. It seemed like the IRS was the primary employer, but it didn't look feasible in my situation. It may, however, work out for you. I have lost the link, but perhaps the person who put it on here might do so again. I believe it might have been KK, but it has been quite a while. Q On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 7:21 PM, LTeasley wrote: > hi Joan, > I saved your response from the question I sent you earlier. I've been > trying to think of a way to express how impressed I am. Then I get this. > Joan, you blow me away! I turned 47 on the 14th of December, and I have > had such a struggle with what to do now. Having only been a quad for just > over three years, and waiting tables or working in an in-home childcare > center prior to my accident, I have no idea where to turn. Alot of people in > my life suggest going to school, which I have not done now for 25 1/2 > years. I was registered to start for the first time in 22 years one month > after my accident. The field I was looking into going to school for, does > not seem even remotely appealing, nor do I think it would any longer be a > good fit for me. I would like to look into something that might be recession > proof, but what is these days? friends mentioned that I should go into > volunteer work, but that doesn't pay. How do you do what you do? I'm scared > as hell to get out there in the big bad world. In between a nonexistent > family, and PCAs that don't show up on time in the morning, or sometimes at > all, I'd never be able to get ready for class or work. What's a kid to do, > eh? > Lucinda > C-45 complete? > July 31,' 05. > Minneapolis, Minnesota > > > > When I was first injured I applied for a service dog, and they told me they > had never trained a dog for my level. They suggested that I train my own > dog, but as you all know the first couple of years is usually taken up with > learning how to live in our new bodies-and mindset too. > My youngest daughter was only 15, and we were into showing horses, so that > is what we did for four years. Then life just took over, I designed and had > a house built for myself-luckily my family could do it, so labor was free. > I > had sold my original house, so I was able to finance the new house with a > mortgage. > I have worked hard at developing a support system for myself, and as I get > older it is hard to maintain it but so far I have been very fortunate. My > daughter lives in my old house but I do try not to use her for my personal > care as I learned very early on that it is hard to maintain a mother > daughter relationship when your daughter is your personal care giver. But > she does help out when necessary. > I have always been an active-some would say pushy-person, and I still am. I > had four mentally retarded young men/boys living with me when I broke my > neck. 18 years later, I still have two of them, and we help each other out, > I am very good at walking people through problems verbally, and they are > very good at following my directions. It definitely works for us. > I volunteer at my grandchildren's school-love working with > kindergartners-and that make sure that I stay involved with young people, > which for me is exhilarating. I am active and serve on two local > organizations as a board member, and have been asked to give some speeches > to local volunteer organizations. > We still have three horses, a greenhouse, five acres to try to maintain, so > I do not run out of projects to do. As my mother in law always said-Joan, > if > you would stop thinking we would all have less work to do. One day, I am > sure my mind will shut down or at least slow down, and they will all have > less work to do. > This has been my way of coping with the devastation of a spinal cord > injury, > each of you have shown so many other ways to cope, and I am so impressed > with the quality of life that all of you on the quad list have achieved for > yourself, that it inspires me to keep on going. > There I go again-motor mouth-good thing I use speech recognition :-) Joan > -Original Message- > From: Merrill [mailto:merril...@cox.net] > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:36 AM > To: 'William Willis' > Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com > Subject: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life > > My first service dog came to me through an organization. Years after > she passed on I was turned down for a successor dog because they thought > at C5 I was too sick. So, I thought if I treat my puppy as a service > dog, with lots of work and training that in time she would become one. > > > > With my physical limitations getting rewards fast enough was impossible > so the clicker training technique worked well for us. I was surprised > to what a good dog my golden had become even though she was not the > class act as my first dog. > > > > Do you live mostly indoors confined to mostly your dg's company? My > health is not
RE: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life
hi Joan, I saved your response from the question I sent you earlier. I've been trying to think of a way to express how impressed I am. Then I get this. Joan, you blow me away! I turned 47 on the 14th of December, and I have had such a struggle with what to do now. Having only been a quad for just over three years, and waiting tables or working in an in-home childcare center prior to my accident, I have no idea where to turn. Alot of people in my life suggest going to school, which I have not done now for 25 1/2 years. I was registered to start for the first time in 22 years one month after my accident. The field I was looking into going to school for, does not seem even remotely appealing, nor do I think it would any longer be a good fit for me. I would like to look into something that might be recession proof, but what is these days? friends mentioned that I should go into volunteer work, but that doesn't pay. How do you do what you do? I'm scared as hell to get out there in the big bad world. In between a nonexistent family, and PCAs that don't show up on time in the morning, or sometimes at all, I'd never be able to get ready for class or work. What's a kid to do, eh? Lucinda C-45 complete? July 31,' 05. Minneapolis, Minnesota When I was first injured I applied for a service dog, and they told me they had never trained a dog for my level. They suggested that I train my own dog, but as you all know the first couple of years is usually taken up with learning how to live in our new bodies-and mindset too. My youngest daughter was only 15, and we were into showing horses, so that is what we did for four years. Then life just took over, I designed and had a house built for myself-luckily my family could do it, so labor was free. I had sold my original house, so I was able to finance the new house with a mortgage. I have worked hard at developing a support system for myself, and as I get older it is hard to maintain it but so far I have been very fortunate. My daughter lives in my old house but I do try not to use her for my personal care as I learned very early on that it is hard to maintain a mother daughter relationship when your daughter is your personal care giver. But she does help out when necessary. I have always been an active-some would say pushy-person, and I still am. I had four mentally retarded young men/boys living with me when I broke my neck. 18 years later, I still have two of them, and we help each other out, I am very good at walking people through problems verbally, and they are very good at following my directions. It definitely works for us. I volunteer at my grandchildren's school-love working with kindergartners-and that make sure that I stay involved with young people, which for me is exhilarating. I am active and serve on two local organizations as a board member, and have been asked to give some speeches to local volunteer organizations. We still have three horses, a greenhouse, five acres to try to maintain, so I do not run out of projects to do. As my mother in law always said-Joan, if you would stop thinking we would all have less work to do. One day, I am sure my mind will shut down or at least slow down, and they will all have less work to do. This has been my way of coping with the devastation of a spinal cord injury, each of you have shown so many other ways to cope, and I am so impressed with the quality of life that all of you on the quad list have achieved for yourself, that it inspires me to keep on going. There I go again-motor mouth-good thing I use speech recognition :-) Joan -Original Message- From: Merrill [mailto:merril...@cox.net] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:36 AM To: 'William Willis' Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life My first service dog came to me through an organization. Years after she passed on I was turned down for a successor dog because they thought at C5 I was too sick. So, I thought if I treat my puppy as a service dog, with lots of work and training that in time she would become one. With my physical limitations getting rewards fast enough was impossible so the clicker training technique worked well for us. I was surprised to what a good dog my golden had become even though she was not the class act as my first dog. Do you live mostly indoors confined to mostly your dg's company? My health is not what it was, and at times I do feel that I am not satisfying all her needs. Last month this family cared for her for several weeks. Wonderful people. They had given my dog such care I never could which has made my dog so very happy. My point to all of this is I am interested in how active you are and if you too are shut indoors most of the day? I am feeling so self centered taking her back now that it is time for her to return because I cannot compete to her life with a really family much more active than I. Do you believe that it is true I am all she wants? Do y
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too sick?? please... yes, i think they were wrong in their judgment, but this comes from someone who has been denied a dog. as far as the question about whether or not, you can provide a dog with enough, I think you need to ask yourself based on instinct and what you feel in your heart is right. If you need a dog for companionship, and for the services that she/he provides, then keep it. However, if you really believe that you cannot give that dog all that it deserves, then re-home at. trust me enough that I do not say that lightly. my family has raised several breeds of dogs while I was growing up. dogs don't really require a lot. if you have a dog that is pretty mellow, they want food, treats once in a while, some of the love that you can give them as their owner, and of course to be let out a few times a day to relieve itself. Depending on the breed, some of them just want to give you lots of love, and do whatever it can to please you. I don't know if you have access to cable TV or not, that there has been a great show on animal planet lately called dogs 101. It gives you a brief synopses on four different kinds of dogs of per show. check it out if you get the chance. Lucinda C 4-5 Complete ? July 31,-05. Minneapolis, Minnesota SFrom: Merrill Subject: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life To: "'William Willis'" Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 1:36 PM My first service dog came to me through an organization. Years after she passed on I was turned down for a successor dog because they thought at C5 I was too sick. So, I thought if I treat my puppy as a service dog, with lots of work and training that in time she would become one. With my physical limitations getting rewards fast enough was impossible so the clicker training technique worked well for us. I was surprised to what a good dog my golden had become even though she was not the class act as my first dog. Do you live mostly indoors confined to mostly your dg’s company? My health is not what it was, and at times I do feel that I am not satisfying all her needs. Last month this family cared for her for several weeks. Wonderful people. They had given my dog such care I never could which has made my dog so very happy. My point to all of this is I am interested in how active you are and if you too are shut indoors most of the day? I am feeling so self centered taking her back now that it is time for her to return because I cannot compete to her life with a really family much more active than I. Do you believe that it is true I am all she wants? Do you have a strong family or supportive people around you which helps not being restrictive? Was the service dog organization right in their judgment of me in your mind? Merrill From: William Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:03 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] Exercise Joan, you are one tough cookie. I am a c-5 and I don't think I have anything near your gumption and zest. Hang tough and God bless. Willis Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:04:32 -0500 To: quad-list@eskimo.com From: d...@unh.edu Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Exercise Way to go Joan! Dan At 11:33 PM 12/21/2008, Joan Anglin said something that elicited my response: Lucinda I am a C4 complete. October 1990, fell off scaffolding in my barn. Shoulder shrug is it. I have had to have three tracheotomies, but fortunately for me I was able to get off of each trach within a couple of weeks. I have an omega trac wheelchair, very powerful even if it is not very fast, and have not tipped myself over since I bought it. It has given me a very confident and safe lifestyle, especially now that I have a German shepherd puppy-now eight months who is already helping me out. She can open most doors, is very calm in stores, loves children and will sit to shake hands with them without command, and of course she is a great conversation opening. I have always been an independent person, and really enjoy getting out by myself. With my cell phone, Elfie my German shepherd, and my omega trac Im good to go. We have joined a German shepherd Schaeferhunde Gruppe (in a former life I trained German shepherds in Germany, and I am very much looking forward to taking Elfie through her SchH1 degree in a couple of years. However, I will be the first one to admit that it is a whole bunch more difficult training a dog when you cannot use your arms. She has had to learn to step up on my wheelchair to get a treat from my mouth. I am now working with the silent whistle as my whistle left me when I broke my neck. J Sorry to go on. I am just very excited about all the things that seem to be happening in my life. I’ll be 70 next April, and we are trying very hard to get me certified to go scuba diving in Honduras . Everyone around me scuba dives, and now I figure
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When I was first injured I applied for a service dog, and they told me they had never trained a dog for my level. They suggested that I train my own dog, but as you all know the first couple of years is usually taken up with learning how to live in our new bodies-and mindset too. My youngest daughter was only 15, and we were into showing horses, so that is what we did for four years. Then life just took over, I designed and had a house built for myself-luckily my family could do it, so labor was free. I had sold my original house, so I was able to finance the new house with a mortgage. I have worked hard at developing a support system for myself, and as I get older it is hard to maintain it but so far I have been very fortunate. My daughter lives in my old house but I do try not to use her for my personal care as I learned very early on that it is hard to maintain a mother daughter relationship when your daughter is your personal care giver. But she does help out when necessary. I have always been an active-some would say pushy-person, and I still am. I had four mentally retarded young men/boys living with me when I broke my neck. 18 years later, I still have two of them, and we help each other out, I am very good at walking people through problems verbally, and they are very good at following my directions. It definitely works for us. I volunteer at my grandchildren's school-love working with kindergartners-and that make sure that I stay involved with young people, which for me is exhilarating. I am active and serve on two local organizations as a board member, and have been asked to give some speeches to local volunteer organizations. We still have three horses, a greenhouse, five acres to try to maintain, so I do not run out of projects to do. As my mother in law always said-Joan, if you would stop thinking we would all have less work to do. One day, I am sure my mind will shut down or at least slow down, and they will all have less work to do. This has been my way of coping with the devastation of a spinal cord injury, each of you have shown so many other ways to cope, and I am so impressed with the quality of life that all of you on the quad list have achieved for yourself, that it inspires me to keep on going. There I go again-motor mouth-good thing I use speech recognition :-) Joan -Original Message- From: Merrill [mailto:merril...@cox.net] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:36 AM To: 'William Willis' Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life My first service dog came to me through an organization. Years after she passed on I was turned down for a successor dog because they thought at C5 I was too sick. So, I thought if I treat my puppy as a service dog, with lots of work and training that in time she would become one. With my physical limitations getting rewards fast enough was impossible so the clicker training technique worked well for us. I was surprised to what a good dog my golden had become even though she was not the class act as my first dog. Do you live mostly indoors confined to mostly your dg's company? My health is not what it was, and at times I do feel that I am not satisfying all her needs. Last month this family cared for her for several weeks. Wonderful people. They had given my dog such care I never could which has made my dog so very happy. My point to all of this is I am interested in how active you are and if you too are shut indoors most of the day? I am feeling so self centered taking her back now that it is time for her to return because I cannot compete to her life with a really family much more active than I. Do you believe that it is true I am all she wants? Do you have a strong family or supportive people around you which helps not being restrictive? Was the service dog organization right in their judgment of me in your mind? Merrill From: William Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:03 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] Exercise Joan, you are one tough cookie. I am a c-5 and I don't think I have anything near your gumption and zest. Hang tough and God bless. Willis Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:04:32 -0500 To: quad-list@eskimo.com From: d...@unh.edu Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Exercise Way to go Joan! Dan At 11:33 PM 12/21/2008, Joan Anglin said something that elicited my response: Lucinda I am a C4 complete. October 1990, fell off scaffolding in my barn. Shoulder shrug is it. I have had to have three tracheotomies, but fortunately for me I was able to get off of each trach within a couple of weeks. I have an omega trac wheelchair, very powerful even if it is not very fast, and have not tipped myself over since I bought it. It has given me a very confident and safe lifestyle, especially now that I have a German shepherd puppy-now eight months who is already helping me out. She can open most doors, is very
RE: [QUAD-L] Service Dog pooping in walmart
This is the one I used for my partner http://www.petco.com/product/2324/KONG-Dog-Toy.aspx Tim From: Timothy Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Service Dog pooping in walmart Its a little different design than the one I am used to, the original has a pyramidal design that creates a totally eradic bounce and the rubber is heavy duty, enough to withstand the abuse of a German Sheperd chomping on it, but this is the same company, I wonder if they still have the original models. Tim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:07 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog pooping in walmart Is this it, Tim? http://www.petco.com/product/104148/Air-KONG-Squeaker-Stick.aspx In a message dated 3/12/2008 12:01:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I used to be a K-9 officer, it is actually the original name of the toy "Kong", there are imitations out there but the original still can be bought. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance.<http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301>
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Its a little different design than the one I am used to, the original has a pyramidal design that creates a totally eradic bounce and the rubber is heavy duty, enough to withstand the abuse of a German Sheperd chomping on it, but this is the same company, I wonder if they still have the original models. Tim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:07 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog pooping in walmart Is this it, Tim? http://www.petco.com/product/104148/Air-KONG-Squeaker-Stick.aspx In a message dated 3/12/2008 12:01:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I used to be a K-9 officer, it is actually the original name of the toy "Kong", there are imitations out there but the original still can be bought. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance.<http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301>
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Is this it, Tim? _http://www.petco.com/product/104148/Air-KONG-Squeaker-Stick.aspx_ (http://www.petco.com/product/104148/Air-KONG-Squeaker-Stick.aspx) In a message dated 3/12/2008 12:01:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I used to be a K-9 officer, it is actually the original name of the toy "Kong", there are imitations out there but the original still can be bought. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
RE: [QUAD-L] Service Dog pooping in walmart
I used to be a K-9 officer, it is actually the original name of the toy "Kong", there are imitations out there but the original still can be bought. Tim From: John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:03 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog pooping in walmart A kong is a dogs toy. I don't have a clue where the term came from. Ask any trainer. john - Original Message From: Silas Shelburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:30:20 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Service Dog pooping in walmart What is a Kong? From: John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:57 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog pooping in walmart Dear Merril, When you walk your dog do not let him/her go potty any place. Keep them moving untill you find where they can potty. Then just sit still and let them do there business while whispering "potty". Afterward, if they do it like you want, they get the "kong". And a big hug and back pat. In a few weeks the dog will only go on your command during a walk and gradually stop with the kong. It becomes standard behavior. Do not punish the dog for his problem in walmart, in fact, try to ignore it. You'll need to have a friend to do the walks while your in hospital. The "kong" will always let the dog know that person is part of their pack. Good luck, john - Original Message From: Merrill Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Maria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:37:15 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Service Dog My first service dog came from the CCI organization. So, I thought no problem to train a second if I treat my new Golden as a service dog then she will become one. Three years post the first passing away, I bought a healthy one year old. I had it half right but no getting around consistent daily work. Once after a year of work she continued to poop in Wal-Mart. I wanted to cry, in fact I did. After an extended vacation for her while I was hospitalized, she just forgot about pooping only in that store. I took this as communication and listened to her. I changed and realized that I was too hard with little joy. She became a very good dog. Not the class act but a very good dog. See your local animal shelter on how to certify if interested with $25.00 I was right that you need to remember she is a working dog which means no contact with so many people. Plus side is you are never alone. This gets so old in short time but if a service dog is what you want, then you must deny others that touch folks find irresistible. Most people ask and some think you are there for them. Best is to say the dog is working and it is not a good idea to interact at this time. You have a good breed on one side. The down side is seems no one can resist letting you go by. On the other side the dog needs socializing on your terms. There is much to be said about clicker training. Consistency and exclusiveness are primary. A dog only needs to develop as far as you take it, or should I say will only. Basic obeisance is the first stage, along with holding control regardless of the public, cats, or dogs. Merrill Use e-collar ONLY when desperate From: Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:18 PM To: Raúl Rebollo; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] post to quad list Hey Everybody -- thanks for the welcome. I am 42 years old and a C5/6 complete quadriplegic due to a car accident in a wind storm. In December of 2000, the top part of a tree broke off and fell on our minivan while we were driving about 35 or 40 miles an hour on a back road. Wrong place at the wrong time. My husband and I both broke our necks and had surgery to get them fused. There was more damage to my side of the van, which left me a quadriplegic. My husband fortunately did not have any permanent damage. I have movement of my arms, but no finger movement. We are in the midst of training our three-month old AKC yellow lab, which we got when she was seven weeks old. My husband is doing a great job with her. She was the youngest and most mellowest of the whole litter and should be around 60 pounds or so full-grown. Everyone that knows Labs says that she is not a lab because she is so mellow. She is potty trained and sleeps in a kennel during the night. Has anyone out there trained their dogs to do things for them? I still need to find a way to be able to give her treats. Any suggestions? Nice to Be on Board -- :-) Maria On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raúl Rebollo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Hi Mar
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A kong is a dogs toy. I don't have a clue where the term came from. Ask any trainer. john - Original Message From: Silas Shelburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:30:20 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Service Dog pooping in walmart What is a Kong? From: John S.[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:57 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog pooping in walmart Dear Merril, When you walk your dog do not let him/her go potty any place. Keep them movinguntill you find where they can potty. Then just sit still and let them do therebusiness while whispering "potty". Afterward, if they do it like youwant, they get the "kong". And a big hug and back pat. In a few weeksthe dog will only go on your command during a walk and gradually stop with thekong. It becomes standard behavior. Do not punish the dog for his problem inwalmart, in fact, try to ignore it. You'll need to have a friend to dothe walks while your in hospital. The "kong" will always let the dogknow that person is part of their pack. Good luck, john - Original Message From: Merrill Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Maria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:37:15 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Service Dog My first service dog came from the CCI organization. So, I thought no problem to train a second if I treat my new Golden as a service dog then she will become one. Three years post the first passing away, I bought a healthy one year old. I had it half right but no getting around consistent daily work. Once after a year of work she continued to poop in Wal-Mart. I wanted to cry, in fact I did. After an extended vacation for her while I was hospitalized, she just forgot about pooping only in that store. I took this as communication and listened to her. I changed and realized that I was too hard with little joy. She became a very good dog. Not the class act but a very good dog. See your local animal shelter on how to certify if interested with $25.00 I was right that you need to remember she is a working dog which means no contact with so many people. Plus side is you are never alone. This gets so old in short time but if a service dog is what you want, then you must deny others that touch folks find irresistible. Most people ask and some think you are there for them. Best is to say the dog is working and it is not a good idea to interact at this time. You have a good breed on one side. The down side is seems no one can resist letting you go by. On the other side the dog needs socializing on your terms. There is much to be said about clicker training. Consistency and exclusiveness are primary. A dog only needs to develop as far as you take it, or should I say will only. Basic obeisance is the first stage, along with holding control regardless of the public, cats, or dogs. Merrill Use e-collar ONLY when desperate From: Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:18 PM To: Raúl Rebollo; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] post to quad list Hey Everybody -- thanks for the welcome. I am 42 years old and a C5/6 complete quadriplegic due to a car accident in awind storm. In December of 2000, the top part of a tree broke off and fellon our minivan while we were driving about 35 or 40 miles an hour on a backroad. Wrong place at the wrong time. My husband and I both brokeour necks and had surgery to get them fused. There was more damage to myside of the van, which left me a quadriplegic. My husband fortunately didnot have any permanent damage. I have movement of my arms, but no fingermovement. We are in the midst of training our three-month old AKC yellow lab, which wegot when she was seven weeks old. My husband is doing a great job withher. She was the youngest and most mellowest of the whole litter andshould be around 60 pounds or so full-grown. Everyone that knows Labssays that she is not a lab because she is so mellow. She is potty trainedand sleeps in a kennel during the night. Has anyone out there trainedtheir dogs to do things for them? I still need to find a way to be ableto give her treats. Any suggestions? Nice to Be on Board -- :-) Maria On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 7:41 AM,Raúl Rebollo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hi Maria. You can post and can write us about your injury, accident. I hope as soon as possible you can participe as all ours. bye Yahoo!Encuentros Ahora encontrar pareja es mucho más fácil, probá el nuevo Yahoo! Encuentros. Visitá http://yahoo.cupidovirtual.com/servlet/NewRegistration Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo!Mobile. Try it now. __
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What is a Kong? From: John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:57 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog pooping in walmart Dear Merril, When you walk your dog do not let him/her go potty any place. Keep them moving untill you find where they can potty. Then just sit still and let them do there business while whispering "potty". Afterward, if they do it like you want, they get the "kong". And a big hug and back pat. In a few weeks the dog will only go on your command during a walk and gradually stop with the kong. It becomes standard behavior. Do not punish the dog for his problem in walmart, in fact, try to ignore it. You'll need to have a friend to do the walks while your in hospital. The "kong" will always let the dog know that person is part of their pack. Good luck, john - Original Message From: Merrill Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Maria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:37:15 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Service Dog My first service dog came from the CCI organization. So, I thought no problem to train a second if I treat my new Golden as a service dog then she will become one. Three years post the first passing away, I bought a healthy one year old. I had it half right but no getting around consistent daily work. Once after a year of work she continued to poop in Wal-Mart. I wanted to cry, in fact I did. After an extended vacation for her while I was hospitalized, she just forgot about pooping only in that store. I took this as communication and listened to her. I changed and realized that I was too hard with little joy. She became a very good dog. Not the class act but a very good dog. See your local animal shelter on how to certify if interested with $25.00 I was right that you need to remember she is a working dog which means no contact with so many people. Plus side is you are never alone. This gets so old in short time but if a service dog is what you want, then you must deny others that touch folks find irresistible. Most people ask and some think you are there for them. Best is to say the dog is working and it is not a good idea to interact at this time. You have a good breed on one side. The down side is seems no one can resist letting you go by. On the other side the dog needs socializing on your terms. There is much to be said about clicker training. Consistency and exclusiveness are primary. A dog only needs to develop as far as you take it, or should I say will only. Basic obeisance is the first stage, along with holding control regardless of the public, cats, or dogs. Merrill Use e-collar ONLY when desperate _ From: Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:18 PM To: Raúl Rebollo; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] post to quad list Hey Everybody -- thanks for the welcome. I am 42 years old and a C5/6 complete quadriplegic due to a car accident in a wind storm. In December of 2000, the top part of a tree broke off and fell on our minivan while we were driving about 35 or 40 miles an hour on a back road. Wrong place at the wrong time. My husband and I both broke our necks and had surgery to get them fused. There was more damage to my side of the van, which left me a quadriplegic. My husband fortunately did not have any permanent damage. I have movement of my arms, but no finger movement. We are in the midst of training our three-month old AKC yellow lab, which we got when she was seven weeks old. My husband is doing a great job with her. She was the youngest and most mellowest of the whole litter and should be around 60 pounds or so full-grown. Everyone that knows Labs says that she is not a lab because she is so mellow. She is potty trained and sleeps in a kennel during the night. Has anyone out there trained their dogs to do things for them? I still need to find a way to be able to give her treats. Any suggestions? Nice to Be on Board -- :-) Maria On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raúl Rebollo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Maria. You can post and can write us about your injury, accident. I hope as soon as possible you can participe as all ours. bye _ Yahoo! Encuentros Ahora encontrar pareja es mucho más fácil, probá el nuevo Yahoo! Encuentros. Visitá http://yahoo.cupidovirtual.com/servlet/NewRegistration _ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http:/mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8H DtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ%20> it now.
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I have a service dog that I trained myself. I allow people to pet her in two places: (1) my dorm room [helps draw the ladies in], and (2) when we're sitting outside in the courtyard and she's rollin' in the grass. Other than those places I enjoy making children cry out, "but I wanna pet the puppy." I say "haha I wanna pill that'll make me walk, but you don't see me cryin'." That might be slightly exaggerated... Luke -Original Message- From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 2:56 pm Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog pooping in walmart Dear Merril, When you walk your dog do not let him/her go potty any place. Keep them moving untill you find where they can potty. Then just sit still and let them do there business while whispering "potty". Afterward, if they do it like you want, they get the "kong". And a big hug and back pat. In a few weeks the dog will only go on your command during a walk and gradually stop with the kong. It becomes standard behavior. Do not punish the dog for his problem in walmart, in fact, try to ignore it. You'll need to have a friend to do the walks while your in hospital. The "kong" will always let the dog know that person is part of their pack. Good luck, john - Original Message From: Merrill Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Maria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:37:15 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Service Dog My first service dog came from the CCI organization. So, I thought no problem to train a second if I treat my new Golden as a service dog then she will become one. Three years post the first passing away, I bought a healthy one year old. I had it half right but no getting around consistent daily work. Once after a year of work she continued to poop in Wal-Mart. I wanted to cry, in fact I did. After an extended vacation for her while I was hospitalized, she just forgot about pooping only in that store. I took this as communication and listened to her. I changed and realized that I was too hard with little joy. She became a very good dog. Not the class act but a very good dog. See your local animal shelter on how to certify if interested with $25.00 I was right that you need to remember she is a working dog which means no contact with so many people. Plus side is you are never alone. This gets so old in short time but if a service dog is what you want, then you must deny others that touch folks find irresistible. Most people ask and some think you are there for them. Best is to say the dog is working and it is not a good idea to interact at this time. You have a good breed on one side. The down side is seems no one can resist letting you go by. On the other side the dog needs socializing on your terms. There is much to be said about clicker training. Consistency and exclusiveness are primary. A dog only needs to develop as far as you take it, or should I say will only. Basic obeisance is the first stage, along with holding control regardless of the public, cats, or dogs. Merrill Use e-collar ONLY when desperate From: Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:18 PM To: Raúl Rebollo; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] post to quad list Hey Everybody -- thanks for the welcome. I am 42 years old and a C5/6 complete quadriplegic due to a car accident in a wind storm. In December of 2000, the top part of a tree broke off and fell on our minivan while we were driving about 35 or 40 miles an hour on a back road. Wrong place at the wrong time. My husband and I both broke our necks and had surgery to get them fused. There was more damage to my side of the van, which left me a quadriplegic. My husband fortunately did not have any permanent damage. I have movement of my arms, but no finger movement. We are in the midst of training our three-month old AKC yellow lab, which we got when she was seven weeks old. My husband is doing a great job with her. She was the youngest and most mellowest of the whole litter and should be around 60 pounds or so full-grown. Everyone that knows Labs says that she is not a lab because she is so mellow. She is potty trained and sleeps in a kennel during the night. Has anyone out there trained their dogs to do things for them? I still need to find a way to be able to give her treats. Any suggestions? Nice to Be on Board -- :-) Maria On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raúl Rebollo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Maria. You can post and can write us about your injury, accident. I hope as soon as possible you can participe as all ours. bye Yahoo! Encuentros Ahora encontrar pareja es mucho más fácil, probá el nuevo Yahoo! Encuentros. Visitá http://yahoo.c
Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog pooping in walmart
Dear Merril, When you walk your dog do not let him/her go potty any place. Keep them moving untill you find where they can potty. Then just sit still and let them do there business while whispering "potty". Afterward, if they do it like you want, they get the "kong". And a big hug and back pat. In a few weeks the dog will only go on your command during a walk and gradually stop with the kong. It becomes standard behavior. Do not punish the dog for his problem in walmart, in fact, try to ignore it. You'll need to have a friend to do the walks while your in hospital. The "kong" will always let the dog know that person is part of their pack. Good luck, john - Original Message From: Merrill Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Maria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:37:15 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Service Dog My first service dog came from the CCI organization. So, I thought no problem to train a second if I treat my new Golden as a service dog then she will become one. Three years post the first passing away, I bought a healthy one year old. I had it half right but no getting around consistent daily work. Once after a year of work she continued to poop in Wal-Mart. I wanted to cry, in fact I did. After an extended vacation for her while I was hospitalized, she just forgot about pooping only in that store. I took this as communication and listened to her. I changed and realized that I was too hard with little joy. She became a very good dog. Not the class act but a very good dog. See your local animal shelter on how to certify if interested with $25.00 I was right that you need to remember she is a working dog which means no contact with so many people. Plus side is you are never alone. This gets so old in short time but if a service dog is what you want, then you must deny others that touch folks find irresistible. Most people ask and some think you are there for them. Best is to say the dog is working and it is not a good idea to interact at this time. You have a good breed on one side. The down side is seems no one can resist letting you go by. On the other side the dog needs socializing on your terms. There is much to be said about clicker training. Consistency and exclusiveness are primary. A dog only needs to develop as far as you take it, or should I say will only. Basic obeisance is the first stage, along with holding control regardless of the public, cats, or dogs. Merrill Use e-collar ONLY when desperate From: Maria[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:18PM To: Raúl Rebollo; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] post to quadlist Hey Everybody -- thanks for the welcome. I am 42 years old and a C5/6 complete quadriplegic due to a car accident in awind storm. In December of 2000, the top part of a tree broke off andfell on our minivan while we were driving about 35 or 40 miles an hour on aback road. Wrong place at the wrong time. My husband and I bothbroke our necks and had surgery to get them fused. There was more damageto my side of the van, which left me a quadriplegic. My husbandfortunately did not have any permanent damage. I have movement of myarms, but no finger movement. We are in the midst of training our three-month old AKC yellow lab, which wegot when she was seven weeks old. My husband is doing a great job withher. She was the youngest and most mellowest of the whole litter andshould be around 60 pounds or so full-grown. Everyone that knows Labssays that she is not a lab because she is so mellow. She is potty trainedand sleeps in a kennel during the night. Has anyone out there trainedtheir dogs to do things for them? I still need to find a way to be ableto give her treats. Any suggestions? Nice to Be on Board -- :-) Maria On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raúl Rebollo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Maria. You can post and can write us about your injury, accident. I hope as soon as possible you can participe as all ours. bye Yahoo! Encuentros Ahora encontrar pareja es mucho más fácil, probá el nuevo Yahoo! Encuentros. Visitá http://yahoo.cupidovirtual.com/servlet/NewRegistration Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
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Exactly why the clicker is used successfully. In training the idea is to mark the desired behavior with a treat. With many of us by the time we get to the treat the moment has passed. Thus the clicker to mark the desired behavior, then the treat to reinforce it. Merrill _ From: Silas Shelburne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:28 PM To: 'Merrill Burghardt'; 'Maria' Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Seems like a lot of us have new dogs, I just got Australian Sheppard. I too am trying the clicking method, and cant drop the treat. Lol. What is a e-collar? Silas From: Merrill Burghardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:37 PM To: 'Maria' Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Service Dog My first service dog came from the CCI organization. So, I thought no problem to train a second if I treat my new Golden as a service dog then she will become one. Three years post the first passing away, I bought a healthy one year old. I had it half right but no getting around consistent daily work. Once after a year of work she continued to poop in Wal-Mart. I wanted to cry, in fact I did. After an extended vacation for her while I was hospitalized, she just forgot about pooping only in that store. I took this as communication and listened to her. I changed and realized that I was too hard with little joy. She became a very good dog. Not the class act but a very good dog. See your local animal shelter on how to certify if interested with $25.00 I was right that you need to remember she is a working dog which means no contact with so many people. Plus side is you are never alone. This gets so old in short time but if a service dog is what you want, then you must deny others that touch folks find irresistible. Most people ask and some think you are there for them. Best is to say the dog is working and it is not a good idea to interact at this time. You have a good breed on one side. The down side is seems no one can resist letting you go by. On the other side the dog needs socializing on your terms. There is much to be said about clicker training. Consistency and exclusiveness are primary. A dog only needs to develop as far as you take it, or should I say will only. Basic obeisance is the first stage, along with holding control regardless of the public, cats, or dogs. Merrill Use e-collar ONLY when desperate _ From: Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:18 PM To: Raúl Rebollo; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] post to quad list Hey Everybody -- thanks for the welcome. I am 42 years old and a C5/6 complete quadriplegic due to a car accident in a wind storm. In December of 2000, the top part of a tree broke off and fell on our minivan while we were driving about 35 or 40 miles an hour on a back road. Wrong place at the wrong time. My husband and I both broke our necks and had surgery to get them fused. There was more damage to my side of the van, which left me a quadriplegic. My husband fortunately did not have any permanent damage. I have movement of my arms, but no finger movement. We are in the midst of training our three-month old AKC yellow lab, which we got when she was seven weeks old. My husband is doing a great job with her. She was the youngest and most mellowest of the whole litter and should be around 60 pounds or so full-grown. Everyone that knows Labs says that she is not a lab because she is so mellow. She is potty trained and sleeps in a kennel during the night. Has anyone out there trained their dogs to do things for them? I still need to find a way to be able to give her treats. Any suggestions? Nice to Be on Board -- :-) Maria On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raúl Rebollo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Maria. You can post and can write us about your injury, accident. I hope as soon as possible you can participe as all ours. bye _ Yahoo! Encuentros Ahora encontrar pareja es mucho más fácil, probá el nuevo Yahoo! Encuentros. Visitá http://yahoo.cupidovirtual.com/servlet/NewRegistration
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I don't have a new dog but I've had a Catahoula for several years and she's a great dog. I think the e-collar is an electric shock collar. Mark Jackson RollinOn _ From: Silas Shelburne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 6:28 PM To: 'Merrill Burghardt'; 'Maria' Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Seems like a lot of us have new dogs, I just got Australian Sheppard. I too am trying the clicking method, and cant drop the treat. Lol. What is a e-collar? Silas From: Merrill Burghardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:37 PM To: 'Maria' Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Service Dog My first service dog came from the CCI organization. So, I thought no problem to train a second if I treat my new Golden as a service dog then she will become one. Three years post the first passing away, I bought a healthy one year old. I had it half right but no getting around consistent daily work. Once after a year of work she continued to poop in Wal-Mart. I wanted to cry, in fact I did. After an extended vacation for her while I was hospitalized, she just forgot about pooping only in that store. I took this as communication and listened to her. I changed and realized that I was too hard with little joy. She became a very good dog. Not the class act but a very good dog. See your local animal shelter on how to certify if interested with $25.00 I was right that you need to remember she is a working dog which means no contact with so many people. Plus side is you are never alone. This gets so old in short time but if a service dog is what you want, then you must deny others that touch folks find irresistible. Most people ask and some think you are there for them. Best is to say the dog is working and it is not a good idea to interact at this time. You have a good breed on one side. The down side is seems no one can resist letting you go by. On the other side the dog needs socializing on your terms. There is much to be said about clicker training. Consistency and exclusiveness are primary. A dog only needs to develop as far as you take it, or should I say will only. Basic obeisance is the first stage, along with holding control regardless of the public, cats, or dogs. Merrill Use e-collar ONLY when desperate _ From: Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:18 PM To: Raúl Rebollo; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] post to quad list Hey Everybody -- thanks for the welcome. I am 42 years old and a C5/6 complete quadriplegic due to a car accident in a wind storm. In December of 2000, the top part of a tree broke off and fell on our minivan while we were driving about 35 or 40 miles an hour on a back road. Wrong place at the wrong time. My husband and I both broke our necks and had surgery to get them fused. There was more damage to my side of the van, which left me a quadriplegic. My husband fortunately did not have any permanent damage. I have movement of my arms, but no finger movement. We are in the midst of training our three-month old AKC yellow lab, which we got when she was seven weeks old. My husband is doing a great job with her. She was the youngest and most mellowest of the whole litter and should be around 60 pounds or so full-grown. Everyone that knows Labs says that she is not a lab because she is so mellow. She is potty trained and sleeps in a kennel during the night. Has anyone out there trained their dogs to do things for them? I still need to find a way to be able to give her treats. Any suggestions? Nice to Be on Board -- :-) Maria On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raúl Rebollo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Maria. You can post and can write us about your injury, accident. I hope as soon as possible you can participe as all ours. bye _ Yahoo! Encuentros Ahora encontrar pareja es mucho más fácil, probá el nuevo Yahoo! Encuentros. Visitá HYPERLINK "http://yahoo.cupidovirtual.com/servlet/NewRegistration"; \nhttp://yahoo.cupidovirtual.com/servlet/NewRegistration No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1323 - Release Date: 3/10/2008 11:07 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1323 - Release Date: 3/10/2008 11:07 AM
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i use an e-collar (shock) sometimes...but seldom have 2 shock her, she knows when its on she better listen... Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Silas Shelburne To: 'Merrill Burghardt' ; 'Maria' Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 6:27 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Seems like a lot of us have new dogs, I just got Australian Sheppard. I too am trying the clicking method, and can't drop the treat. Lol. What is a e-collar? Silas From: Merrill Burghardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:37 PM To: 'Maria' Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Service Dog My first service dog came from the CCI organization. So, I thought no problem to train a second if I treat my new Golden as a service dog then she will become one. Three years post the first passing away, I bought a healthy one year old. I had it half right but no getting around consistent daily work. Once after a year of work she continued to poop in Wal-Mart. I wanted to cry, in fact I did. After an extended vacation for her while I was hospitalized, she just forgot about pooping only in that store. I took this as communication and listened to her. I changed and realized that I was too hard with little joy. She became a very good dog. Not the class act but a very good dog. See your local animal shelter on how to certify if interested with $25.00 I was right that you need to remember she is a working dog which means no contact with so many people. Plus side is you are never alone. This gets so old in short time but if a service dog is what you want, then you must deny others that touch folks find irresistible. Most people ask and some think you are there for them. Best is to say the dog is working and it is not a good idea to interact at this time. You have a good breed on one side. The down side is seems no one can resist letting you go by. On the other side the dog needs socializing on your terms. There is much to be said about clicker training. Consistency and exclusiveness are primary. A dog only needs to develop as far as you take it, or should I say will only. Basic obeisance is the first stage, along with holding control regardless of the public, cats, or dogs. Merrill Use e-collar ONLY when desperate -- From: Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:18 PM To: Raúl Rebollo; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] post to quad list Hey Everybody -- thanks for the welcome. I am 42 years old and a C5/6 complete quadriplegic due to a car accident in a wind storm. In December of 2000, the top part of a tree broke off and fell on our minivan while we were driving about 35 or 40 miles an hour on a back road. Wrong place at the wrong time. My husband and I both broke our necks and had surgery to get them fused. There was more damage to my side of the van, which left me a quadriplegic. My husband fortunately did not have any permanent damage. I have movement of my arms, but no finger movement. We are in the midst of training our three-month old AKC yellow lab, which we got when she was seven weeks old. My husband is doing a great job with her. She was the youngest and most mellowest of the whole litter and should be around 60 pounds or so full-grown. Everyone that knows Labs says that she is not a lab because she is so mellow. She is potty trained and sleeps in a kennel during the night. Has anyone out there trained their dogs to do things for them? I still need to find a way to be able to give her treats. Any suggestions? Nice to Be on Board -- :-) Maria On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raúl Rebollo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Maria. You can post and can write us about your injury, accident. I hope as soon as possible you can participe as all ours. bye -- Yahoo! Encuentros Ahora encontrar pareja es mucho más fácil, probá el nuevo Yahoo! Encuentros. Visitá http://yahoo.cupidovirtual.com/servlet/NewRegistration
RE: [QUAD-L] Service Dog
Seems like a lot of us have new dogs, I just got Australian Sheppard. I too am trying the clicking method, and cant drop the treat. Lol. What is a e-collar? Silas From: Merrill Burghardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:37 PM To: 'Maria' Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Service Dog My first service dog came from the CCI organization. So, I thought no problem to train a second if I treat my new Golden as a service dog then she will become one. Three years post the first passing away, I bought a healthy one year old. I had it half right but no getting around consistent daily work. Once after a year of work she continued to poop in Wal-Mart. I wanted to cry, in fact I did. After an extended vacation for her while I was hospitalized, she just forgot about pooping only in that store. I took this as communication and listened to her. I changed and realized that I was too hard with little joy. She became a very good dog. Not the class act but a very good dog. See your local animal shelter on how to certify if interested with $25.00 I was right that you need to remember she is a working dog which means no contact with so many people. Plus side is you are never alone. This gets so old in short time but if a service dog is what you want, then you must deny others that touch folks find irresistible. Most people ask and some think you are there for them. Best is to say the dog is working and it is not a good idea to interact at this time. You have a good breed on one side. The down side is seems no one can resist letting you go by. On the other side the dog needs socializing on your terms. There is much to be said about clicker training. Consistency and exclusiveness are primary. A dog only needs to develop as far as you take it, or should I say will only. Basic obeisance is the first stage, along with holding control regardless of the public, cats, or dogs. Merrill Use e-collar ONLY when desperate _ From: Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:18 PM To: Raúl Rebollo; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] post to quad list Hey Everybody -- thanks for the welcome. I am 42 years old and a C5/6 complete quadriplegic due to a car accident in a wind storm. In December of 2000, the top part of a tree broke off and fell on our minivan while we were driving about 35 or 40 miles an hour on a back road. Wrong place at the wrong time. My husband and I both broke our necks and had surgery to get them fused. There was more damage to my side of the van, which left me a quadriplegic. My husband fortunately did not have any permanent damage. I have movement of my arms, but no finger movement. We are in the midst of training our three-month old AKC yellow lab, which we got when she was seven weeks old. My husband is doing a great job with her. She was the youngest and most mellowest of the whole litter and should be around 60 pounds or so full-grown. Everyone that knows Labs says that she is not a lab because she is so mellow. She is potty trained and sleeps in a kennel during the night. Has anyone out there trained their dogs to do things for them? I still need to find a way to be able to give her treats. Any suggestions? Nice to Be on Board -- :-) Maria On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Raúl Rebollo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Maria. You can post and can write us about your injury, accident. I hope as soon as possible you can participe as all ours. bye _ Yahoo! Encuentros Ahora encontrar pareja es mucho más fácil, probá el nuevo Yahoo! Encuentros. Visitá http://yahoo.cupidovirtual.com/servlet/NewRegistration
RE: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Question
I have a Service Dog and I write off all expenses under Medical Other. According to my Tax Attorney this is allowable because the dog is acting as durable medical "equipment" and the upkeep is not covered by insurance. Therefore the expenses involved are tax deductible. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 1:49 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Question I'd sure try to put the dog down as an expense for work or education. If you are working, he's a necessity.
Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Question
I would say a medical expense, it is used more than just at work. They are considered a medical assistance "device" like crutches or a w/c. Dana and on May 1st, Rocco! [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Question I'd sure try to put the dog down as an expense for work or education. If you are working, he's a necessity.
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I'd sure try to put the dog down as an expense for work or education. If you are working, he's a necessity.
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If you have a doctor's script and it doesn't include painting the dog's paw nails, I believe so. A tax's expert is still the best reference. W In a message dated 4/29/05 12:21:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Hi all, Does anyone know whether the cost of service dog upkeep is tax deductible? thanks, River >>