Re: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs

2009-01-29 Thread Quadius
I had a significant amount of bladder stones removed about two years ago and
since then I have had two or three minor UTIs.  I went for an extended
period of time without needing treatment for a UTI prior to getting the
bladder stones, but when I had them, I was consistently getting UTIs until
they were removed.

Irrigation does help, but make sure you do not infect your bladder when you
are doing this.  Make sure whoever is doing it has washed their hands
thoroughly and is wearing gloves.

Also it is important when washing the stoma to have a person clean in a
circular motion trying to clean outward.  That way you do not have anything
entering the stoma site.

I would also pay heed to John's suggestion about backflow.  I had a problem
with this during my first couple of years and once I rigged up some
solutions so my urine would consistently drained down it significantly
minimize my UTIs.
Quadius
PS I have had my suprapubic or almost 14 years now.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 THANKS LORI--- MY NEW UROLOGIST IS OUT FOR AT LEAST 2 MORE DAYS, ONE OF HIS
 FELLOW DOCTORS TOLD ME MY CULTURE SHIOWED I HAD PSEUDOMONAS AND I MAY BE
 ABLE TO GET 2 SHOTS A DAY IN THE BUTT OR GET IV DRUGS---HE TOLD ME I CAN
 WAIT FOR MY DOCTOR TO GET BACK AND SEE IF I'M DOING WORSE OR ?? HE TOLD ME
 IT IS EXTREMELY HARD TO KNOW WHEN TO TREAT AND DEPENDS ON SYMPTOMS AND ETC.
 ( HAVE YOU EVER HAD THE SO CALLED SHOTS? I NEVER KNEW THIS WAS EVEN
 AVAILABLE DID YOU?   DANNY H.


Re: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs

2009-01-27 Thread RONALD L PRACHT
thats a tough situation dan with the repeat infections, i know that infections 
kinda go in cycles...you might have 3 then nothing for a long while. I dont 
have a superpubic so im not much help in this instance. Only thing I could add 
is make sure your drinking plenty, taking your vitamin c, possibly cranberry 
pills. Try reading on the net in forums about others with superpubics. Did you 
ever go and get your mri...if so what were the findings?
 
ron c7 

--- On Tue, 1/27/09, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 12:10 PM







HI ALL-- I WAS WONDERING IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HAD REPEAT IV ANTIBIOTIC DRUG 
TREATMENT FOR BLADDER INFECTIONS?  I HAVE BEEN TREATED 3 DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE 
PAST FOR PSEDOMONAS UTI'S .  JUST TODAY I WAS INFORMED THAT I HAVE IT AGAIN AND 
NO ORAL DRUGS CAN HELP ME.  I HAD MY 1ST BLADDER STONE REMOVED EXACTLY 2 YEARS 
AGO-SO NOT SURE IF I COULD HAVE ANOTHER, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW FAST A 
STONE CAN DEVELOPE? I'M GETTING WORRIED ABOUT RESISTANCE TO IV ANTIBIOTICS--- 
NOT SURE HOW MANY TIMES A PERSON CAN GET REPEAT TREATMENTS ? ANY IDEA'S ? I'M 
GOING TO TRY AND HOLD OFF TREATMENT FOR A BIT TO SEE IF MY SYMPTOMS GET 
WORSE... RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST INCREASED SPASMS OF BODY AND SPASMS AND PAIN IN MY 
BLADDER. I HAVE A SUPRA-PUBIC CATHETER.
 THANKS TO ANY REPLY'S   DAN H. C-6  11.5 YR. 
POST

Re: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs

2009-01-27 Thread Danny Hearn
Hi  - Ron-- yes I do all the things you mentioned, plus today i'm going to 
start trying colloidal silver again ( not sure if it works, but many say so ) . 
No i did not get the mri that was scheduled for last friday---they want to 
reschedule later on when i'm not having bladder or kidney related uti 
problems.    thanks, Dan H.

--- On Tue, 1/27/09, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 1:49 PM







thats a tough situation dan with the repeat infections, i know that infections 
kinda go in cycles...you might have 3 then nothing for a long while. I dont 
have a superpubic so im not much help in this instance. Only thing I could add 
is make sure your drinking plenty, taking your vitamin c, possibly cranberry 
pills. Try reading on the net in forums about others with superpubics. Did you 
ever go and get your mri...if so what were the findings?
 
ron c7 

--- On Tue, 1/27/09, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 12:10 PM







HI ALL-- I WAS WONDERING IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HAD REPEAT IV ANTIBIOTIC DRUG 
TREATMENT FOR BLADDER INFECTIONS?  I HAVE BEEN TREATED 3 DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE 
PAST FOR PSEDOMONAS UTI'S .  JUST TODAY I WAS INFORMED THAT I HAVE IT AGAIN AND 
NO ORAL DRUGS CAN HELP ME.  I HAD MY 1ST BLADDER STONE REMOVED EXACTLY 2 YEARS 
AGO-SO NOT SURE IF I COULD HAVE ANOTHER, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW FAST A 
STONE CAN DEVELOPE? I'M GETTING WORRIED ABOUT RESISTANCE TO IV ANTIBIOTICS--- 
NOT SURE HOW MANY TIMES A PERSON CAN GET REPEAT TREATMENTS ? ANY IDEA'S ? I'M 
GOING TO TRY AND HOLD OFF TREATMENT FOR A BIT TO SEE IF MY SYMPTOMS GET 
WORSE... RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST INCREASED SPASMS OF BODY AND SPASMS AND PAIN IN MY 
BLADDER. I HAVE A SUPRA-PUBIC CATHETER.
 THANKS TO ANY REPLY'S   DAN H. C-6  11.5 YR. 
POST

Re: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs

2009-01-27 Thread Lori Michaelson
I THINK you recall my history Danny since you  I have had these similar
battles.
I was treated twice.  Summer of 2005  (one bug alone--forgot whether it was
Proteus Mirabilis or Psedemonas but I'm pretty sure it was the prior) then
Summer of 2006 (both BIG BAD BUGS -- PROTEUS MIRABILIS  PSEUDEMONAS).  Both
times requiring I.V. antibiodics.  SCARY with TWO pathogens running rampant
and AFTER bladder stone removal.  :-(   But IV antibiodics took care of
THEM.  The earlier the better with how aggressive these pathogens are.

It's irrelevant how fast stones grow when an infection is present.  Cuz, no
matter what, one has the infection.

Pseudemonas is one of THE BIG BAD PATHOGENS.  Very uncool to wait and see
as it grows and spreads and encapsulates.  Been over this ground before of
discussing it here.

What does your newer Urologist think?  Not that Drs CAN always think :-)
but it's up to him for treatment or looking out for your best interest.  If
he doesn't think Pseudemonas isn't a big deal -- he's a fool.  If you HAVE
the infection -- *preventatives* (H2O intake, Cranberry juice or tablets,
more Vitamin C) won't DO anything.

Lori Michaelson
Age - 44
C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post
Tucson, AZ



On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

   *HI ALL-- I WAS WONDERING IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HAD REPEAT IV ANTIBIOTIC
 DRUG TREATMENT FOR BLADDER INFECTIONS?  I HAVE BEEN TREATED 3 DIFFERENT
 TIMES IN THE PAST FOR PSEDOMONAS UTI'S .  JUST TODAY I WAS INFORMED THAT I
 HAVE IT AGAIN AND NO ORAL DRUGS CAN HELP ME.  I HAD MY 1ST BLADDER STONE
 REMOVED EXACTLY 2 YEARS AGO-SO NOT SURE IF I COULD HAVE ANOTHER, BECAUSE
 I'M NOT SURE HOW FAST A STONE CAN DEVELOPE? I'M GETTING WORRIED ABOUT
 RESISTANCE TO IV ANTIBIOTICS--- NOT SURE HOW MANY TIMES A PERSON CAN GET
 REPEAT TREATMENTS ? ANY IDEA'S ? I'M GOING TO TRY AND HOLD OFF TREATMENT FOR
 A BIT TO SEE IF MY SYMPTOMS GET WORSE... RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST INCREASED
 SPASMS OF BODY AND SPASMS AND PAIN IN MY BLADDER. I HAVE A SUPRA-PUBIC
 CATHETER.*
 * THANKS TO ANY REPLY'S   DAN H. C-6  11.5
 YR. POST*



Re: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs

2009-01-27 Thread Lori Michaelson
Typo by me below.  I wrote:

If he doesn't think Pseudemonas isn't a big deal -- he's a fool.

I MEANT to say:

If he doesn't think Pseudemonas *is* a big deal -- he's a fool.

Lori



On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.comwrote:

 I THINK you recall my history Danny since you  I have had these similar
 battles.
 I was treated twice.  Summer of 2005  (one bug alone--forgot whether it was
 Proteus Mirabilis or Psedemonas but I'm pretty sure it was the prior) then
 Summer of 2006 (both BIG BAD BUGS -- PROTEUS MIRABILIS  PSEUDEMONAS).  Both
 times requiring I.V. antibiodics.  SCARY with TWO pathogens running rampant
 and AFTER bladder stone removal.  :-(   But IV antibiodics took care of
 THEM.  The earlier the better with how aggressive these pathogens are.

 It's irrelevant how fast stones grow when an infection is present.  Cuz, no
 matter what, one has the infection.

 Pseudemonas is one of THE BIG BAD PATHOGENS.  Very uncool to wait and see
 as it grows and spreads and encapsulates.  Been over this ground before of
 discussing it here.

 What does your newer Urologist think?  Not that Drs CAN always think :-)
 but it's up to him for treatment or looking out for your best interest.  If
 he doesn't think Pseudemonas isn't a big deal -- he's a fool.  If you HAVE
 the infection -- *preventatives* (H2O intake, Cranberry juice or tablets,
 more Vitamin C) won't DO anything.

 Lori Michaelson
 Age - 44
 C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post
 Tucson, AZ



 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

   *HI ALL-- I WAS WONDERING IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HAD REPEAT IV ANTIBIOTIC
 DRUG TREATMENT FOR BLADDER INFECTIONS?  I HAVE BEEN TREATED 3 DIFFERENT
 TIMES IN THE PAST FOR PSEDOMONAS UTI'S .  JUST TODAY I WAS INFORMED THAT I
 HAVE IT AGAIN AND NO ORAL DRUGS CAN HELP ME.  I HAD MY 1ST BLADDER STONE
 REMOVED EXACTLY 2 YEARS AGO-SO NOT SURE IF I COULD HAVE ANOTHER, BECAUSE
 I'M NOT SURE HOW FAST A STONE CAN DEVELOPE? I'M GETTING WORRIED ABOUT
 RESISTANCE TO IV ANTIBIOTICS--- NOT SURE HOW MANY TIMES A PERSON CAN GET
 REPEAT TREATMENTS ? ANY IDEA'S ? I'M GOING TO TRY AND HOLD OFF TREATMENT FOR
 A BIT TO SEE IF MY SYMPTOMS GET WORSE... RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST INCREASED
 SPASMS OF BODY AND SPASMS AND PAIN IN MY BLADDER. I HAVE A SUPRA-PUBIC
 CATHETER.*
 * THANKS TO ANY REPLY'S   DAN H. C-6
 11.5 YR. POST*





-- 
Lori
C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post
Tucson, AZ


Re: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs

2009-01-27 Thread Danny Hearn
THANKS LORI--- MY NEW UROLOGIST IS OUT FOR AT LEAST 2 MORE DAYS, ONE OF HIS 
FELLOW DOCTORS TOLD ME MY CULTURE SHIOWED I HAD PSEUDOMONAS AND I MAY BE ABLE 
TO GET 2 SHOTS A DAY IN THE BUTT OR GET IV DRUGS---HE TOLD ME I CAN WAIT FOR MY 
DOCTOR TO GET BACK AND SEE IF I'M DOING WORSE OR ?? HE TOLD ME IT IS EXTREMELY 
HARD TO KNOW WHEN TO TREAT AND DEPENDS ON SYMPTOMS AND ETC. ( HAVE YOU EVER HAD 
THE SO CALLED SHOTS? I NEVER KNEW THIS WAS EVEN AVAILABLE DID YOU?   DANNY 
H.

--- On Tue, 1/27/09, Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs
To: ddh...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:23 PM



I THINK you recall my history Danny since you  I have had these similar 
battles.  

I was treated twice.  Summer of 2005  (one bug alone--forgot whether it was 
Proteus Mirabilis or Psedemonas but I'm pretty sure it was the prior) then 
Summer of 2006 (both BIG BAD BUGS -- PROTEUS MIRABILIS  PSEUDEMONAS).  Both 
times requiring I.V. antibiodics.  SCARY with TWO pathogens running rampant and 
AFTER bladder stone removal.  :-(   But IV antibiodics took care of THEM.  The 
earlier the better with how aggressive these pathogens are.
 
It's irrelevant how fast stones grow when an infection is present.  Cuz, no 
matter what, one has the infection.
 
Pseudemonas is one of THE BIG BAD PATHOGENS.  Very uncool to wait and see as 
it grows and spreads and encapsulates.  Been over this ground before of 
discussing it here.
 
What does your newer Urologist think?  Not that Drs CAN always think :-) but 
it's up to him for treatment or looking out for your best interest.  If 
he doesn't think Pseudemonas isn't a big deal -- he's a fool.  If you HAVE the 
infection -- preventatives (H2O intake, Cranberry juice or tablets, more 
Vitamin C) won't DO anything.
 
Lori Michaelson
Age - 44
C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post
Tucson, AZ


 
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:






HI ALL-- I WAS WONDERING IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HAD REPEAT IV ANTIBIOTIC DRUG 
TREATMENT FOR BLADDER INFECTIONS?  I HAVE BEEN TREATED 3 DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE 
PAST FOR PSEDOMONAS UTI'S .  JUST TODAY I WAS INFORMED THAT I HAVE IT AGAIN AND 
NO ORAL DRUGS CAN HELP ME.  I HAD MY 1ST BLADDER STONE REMOVED EXACTLY 2 YEARS 
AGO-SO NOT SURE IF I COULD HAVE ANOTHER, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW FAST A 
STONE CAN DEVELOPE? I'M GETTING WORRIED ABOUT RESISTANCE TO IV ANTIBIOTICS--- 
NOT SURE HOW MANY TIMES A PERSON CAN GET REPEAT TREATMENTS ? ANY IDEA'S ? I'M 
GOING TO TRY AND HOLD OFF TREATMENT FOR A BIT TO SEE IF MY SYMPTOMS GET 
WORSE... RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST INCREASED SPASMS OF BODY AND SPASMS AND PAIN IN MY 
BLADDER. I HAVE A SUPRA-PUBIC CATHETER.
 THANKS TO ANY REPLY'S   DAN H. C-6  11.5 YR. 
POST


Re: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs

2009-01-27 Thread John S.
Dear Dan,
Just curious, do you have a lot of house plants. Pseudomonas is a bacteria that 
is always in soil and on many plant leaves. Often, it manages to survive anti 
biotics that should have wiped it out. I had to take IV anti biotics and get 
rid of all my living plants to end that bug. Whoever cleans around your 
catheter needs to avoid plants, too. It is a very tough bacteria and will 
travel and survive conditions it shouldn't be able to. 
You really need to get rid of it even if it requires IV anti biotics because it 
can cause sepsis if left untreated. You may very well have a stone, but the 
doctor may not want to remove a stone while you have an infection. Stones can 
form in very short time periods. Your bones are decalcifying like an astronaut. 
Unfortunately, calcium leaves the body through the kidneys and you are at risk 
of kidney and bladder stones.
I've had the opposite experience. I rarely get UTI's with an external catheter, 
but I have not been catheterized since 1996. 
Do you flush your bladder with sterile water between changing it? While I have 
never tried it, maybe colloidal silver would be more effective if used with the 
flush. 
Now, my theory on backflow. The catheters do not have anti-backflow valves 
where they connect to leg bag and bed bag lines that also lack anti backflow 
valves. The anti-backflow valves are in the bags. There is nothing preventing 
the lines to the bag from flowing back into you along with the bacteria that is 
growing in it and if it was just cleaned with clorox, just how good is that 
when it enters your bladder?
My solution is to attach a 500cc leg bag to the catheter when it is first put 
in and attach your leg bag and bed bag lines. This puts an anti backflow valve 
at the end of your catheter and you can see how much urine or cleaning solution 
flows back from the lines when it is stopped in the 500cc bag. Lets face it, it 
only takes a fraction of a drop to reinfect you. 
Do not let people change your catheter that can't keep the job sterile. Exam 
gloves are not acceptable and sterile gloves over a year old are just exam 
gloves. You can call the manufacturer and find out when a batch was made and 
shipped. 
Yes, you build up resistance to anti biotics so it is important to avoid 
infections. STOP SHAKING HANDS!

I  wish you all the best,
john




From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:10:12 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs


HI ALL-- I WAS WONDERING IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HAD REPEAT IV ANTIBIOTIC DRUG 
TREATMENT FOR BLADDER INFECTIONS?  I HAVE BEEN TREATED 3 DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE 
PAST FOR PSEDOMONAS UTI'S .  JUST TODAY I WAS INFORMED THAT I HAVE IT AGAIN AND 
NO ORAL DRUGS CAN HELP ME.  I HAD MY 1ST BLADDER STONE REMOVED EXACTLY 2 YEARS 
AGO-SO NOT SURE IF I COULD HAVE ANOTHER, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW FAST A 
STONE CAN DEVELOPE? I'M GETTING WORRIED ABOUT RESISTANCE TO IV ANTIBIOTICS--- 
NOT SURE HOW MANY TIMES A PERSON CAN GET REPEAT TREATMENTS ? ANY IDEA'S ? I'M 
GOING TO TRY AND HOLD OFF TREATMENT FOR A BIT TO SEE IF MY SYMPTOMS GET 
WORSE... RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST INCREASED SPASMS OF BODY AND SPASMS AND PAIN IN MY 
BLADDER. I HAVE A SUPRA-PUBIC CATHETER.
 THANKS TO ANY REPLY'S   DAN H. C-6  11.5 YR. 
POST 


  

RE: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs

2009-01-27 Thread Steve Oldaker
Hi Dan,

 

I went through a period of more than a year of UTIs seemingly back-to-back.
I was initially treated with oral antibiotics, then injectables, then via
IV. I would get an infection, be treated, then a week or two later be
infected yet again, sometimes with the same bug, sometimes another. I
ultimately was referred to Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville where after extensive
testing they put me on a maintenance dosage of Bactrim (half the normal
dosage of the antibiotic) for four months. That was about 11 months ago and
I have not had a single UTI since then.

 

Steve, - C4, 20 years

 

From: Danny Hearn [mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:10 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs

 


HI ALL-- I WAS WONDERING IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HAD REPEAT IV ANTIBIOTIC DRUG
TREATMENT FOR BLADDER INFECTIONS?  I HAVE BEEN TREATED 3 DIFFERENT TIMES IN
THE PAST FOR PSEDOMONAS UTI'S .  JUST TODAY I WAS INFORMED THAT I HAVE IT
AGAIN AND NO ORAL DRUGS CAN HELP ME.  I HAD MY 1ST BLADDER STONE REMOVED
EXACTLY 2 YEARS AGO-SO NOT SURE IF I COULD HAVE ANOTHER, BECAUSE I'M NOT
SURE HOW FAST A STONE CAN DEVELOPE? I'M GETTING WORRIED ABOUT RESISTANCE TO
IV ANTIBIOTICS--- NOT SURE HOW MANY TIMES A PERSON CAN GET REPEAT TREATMENTS
? ANY IDEA'S ? I'M GOING TO TRY AND HOLD OFF TREATMENT FOR A BIT TO SEE IF
MY SYMPTOMS GET WORSE... RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST INCREASED SPASMS OF BODY AND
SPASMS AND PAIN IN MY BLADDER. I HAVE A SUPRA-PUBIC CATHETER.

 THANKS TO ANY REPLY'S   DAN H. C-6  11.5
YR. POST

 



Re: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs

2009-01-27 Thread Lori Michaelson
Nope, never heard of getting shots.  S I did a Google search
on injections for pseudemonas utis and found this --
http://www.springerlink.com/content/w23444xg25202712/ The last sentence
under *Summary* seems to say yes for that.  Never heard of that drug
either.

My last IV therapy drug to fight two pathogens was ZOSYN.

John is correct when he said Drs may not want to remove a stone with an
infection present.  That was my dilemma but I HAD little choice as I had 8
ROCKS in my bladder and they HAD to come out since :
A) They were causing all my previous UTIs over thge previous 6 yrs and
B) They can hang on to the bugs and so NEEDED to come out.

My urologist was hesitant to do the outpatient surgery when I had pathogens
present but went ahead with large doses of IV antibiodics during surgery and
oral ones 10 days-2weeks after surgery. This was May 2006.

In July or August of 2006 both my Dr and I were distressed when I got
another bad UTI with a pathogen being the bug.  BACK on at-home IV
antibiodics.  Yes - I was scared.  Thought the surgery would solve my
problem.

*I* only treat (if you remember) when I have a fever.  Fever = BAD NEWS.

Knock on wood I've not had any in a long time.  I hate to say that -- jinx
myself.

I still check my urine Ph on occassion with the U/A strips as that was my
problem for awhile after summer 2006 and it's been at a good number (6.5)
and eliminated bananas from my diet as they were making my urine too
alkaline (7+ Ph readings - uncool and bacteria friendly).

Best,
Lori (keep in touch)


I'd suggest working with one Dr though

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

   THANKS LORI--- MY NEW UROLOGIST IS OUT FOR AT LEAST 2 MORE DAYS, ONE OF
 HIS FELLOW DOCTORS TOLD ME MY CULTURE SHIOWED I HAD PSEUDOMONAS AND I MAY BE
 ABLE TO GET 2 SHOTS A DAY IN THE BUTT OR GET IV DRUGS---HE TOLD ME I CAN
 WAIT FOR MY DOCTOR TO GET BACK AND SEE IF I'M DOING WORSE OR ?? HE TOLD ME
 IT IS EXTREMELY HARD TO KNOW WHEN TO TREAT AND DEPENDS ON SYMPTOMS AND ETC.
 ( HAVE YOU EVER HAD THE SO CALLED SHOTS? I NEVER KNEW THIS WAS EVEN
 AVAILABLE DID YOU?   DANNY H.

 --- On *Tue, 1/27/09, Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com* wrote:

 From: Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] uti infections that require IV drugs
 To: ddh...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:23 PM


  I THINK you recall my history Danny since you  I have had these similar
 battles.
 I was treated twice.  Summer of 2005  (one bug alone--forgot whether it was
 Proteus Mirabilis or Psedemonas but I'm pretty sure it was the prior) then
 Summer of 2006 (both BIG BAD BUGS -- PROTEUS MIRABILIS  PSEUDEMONAS).  Both
 times requiring I.V. antibiodics.  SCARY with TWO pathogens running rampant
 and AFTER bladder stone removal.  :-(   But IV antibiodics took care of
 THEM.  The earlier the better with how aggressive these pathogens are.

 It's irrelevant how fast stones grow when an infection is present.  Cuz, no
 matter what, one has the infection.

 Pseudemonas is one of THE BIG BAD PATHOGENS.  Very uncool to wait and see
 as it grows and spreads and encapsulates.  Been over this ground before of
 discussing it here.

 What does your newer Urologist think?  Not that Drs CAN always think :-)
 but it's up to him for treatment or looking out for your best interest.  If
 he doesn't think Pseudemonas isn't a big deal -- he's a fool.  If you HAVE
 the infection -- *preventatives* (H2O intake, Cranberry juice or tablets,
 more Vitamin C) won't DO anything.

 Lori Michaelson
 Age - 44
 C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post
 Tucson, AZ



 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

   *HI ALL-- I WAS WONDERING IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HAD REPEAT IV ANTIBIOTIC
 DRUG TREATMENT FOR BLADDER INFECTIONS?  I HAVE BEEN TREATED 3 DIFFERENT
 TIMES IN THE PAST FOR PSEDOMONAS UTI'S .  JUST TODAY I WAS INFORMED THAT I
 HAVE IT AGAIN AND NO ORAL DRUGS CAN HELP ME.  I HAD MY 1ST BLADDER STONE
 REMOVED EXACTLY 2 YEARS AGO-SO NOT SURE IF I COULD HAVE ANOTHER, BECAUSE
 I'M NOT SURE HOW FAST A STONE CAN DEVELOPE? I'M GETTING WORRIED ABOUT
 RESISTANCE TO IV ANTIBIOTICS--- NOT SURE HOW MANY TIMES A PERSON CAN GET
 REPEAT TREATMENTS ? ANY IDEA'S ? I'M GOING TO TRY AND HOLD OFF TREATMENT FOR
 A BIT TO SEE IF MY SYMPTOMS GET WORSE... RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST INCREASED
 SPASMS OF BODY AND SPASMS AND PAIN IN MY BLADDER. I HAVE A SUPRA-PUBIC
 CATHETER.*
 * THANKS TO ANY REPLY'S   DAN H. C-6
 11.5 YR. POST*





-- 
Lori
C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post
Tucson, AZ