Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain

2014-12-06 Thread alcibiates2
I just thought of a problem that I have from time to time. Check for wrinkles 
under you. After several hours they can feel like knives. 
Best wishes
john s


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 Original message 
From: Quadius quad...@gmail.com 
Date:12/05/2014  6:28 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com 
Cc: Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com,quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain 

If you're having lactose intolerance you can try multiple things to ameliorate 
the situation. Lactase, avoiding dairy, using substitutes. Me I have more of a 
dairy allergy most of the time.

On Thursday, December 4, 2014, Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com wrote:
Sounds like you might have some food allergies. Remember that allergies CAN 
develop over time, so just because you've never been lactose intolerant doesn't 
mean that hasn't changed. The one you hear about now is gluten sensitivity, but 
there are many foods that could be causing you to have reactions. Excessive gas 
in the stomach or intestines could easily cause A.D., as well as inflame your 
digestive tract. It might be worth seeing and allergist, or at least trying a 
change in diet to see what happens. For example, no dairy products for two 
weeks. Other common allergens include: eggs, nuts, shellfish, soy and wheat 
products. Carbonated beverages can cause gas too.

Good luck. I hope you guys can figure it out!

Don.

From: Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 9:24 AM
Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain

Empty bowels always makes me feel better. Sometimes I wish I could get by 
without eating anything at all. But, alas, hunger pangs interfere. I eat, 
become bloated and painful, and the whole thing starts over again. Bummer.

Sent from my iPad

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From: jume9...@comcast.net
Date: November 24, 2014 at 5:25:01 PM EST
To: alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com, quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain



You are correct and I do that. Also, i have noticed that when you have a 
thorough bowel movement it helps the medicine work better...weird I know, but 
true for me. Anyone else notice that?

From: alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com
To: jume9...@comcast.net, quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 1:21:23 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain

I think that the first thing everyone needs to know about most pain drugs is 
that you must continually break the forming addiction.  Staying on one drug 
will cause it to lose its effectiveness.at that point you are taking the drug 
and its not doing anything but feeding an addiction. No one in pain wants to 
hear this but the fact is you must find another drug or device while you detox.
 The drug needs to come from another family of drugs.  Altering your 
medications and using milder drugs whatever the pain isn't quite as bad can 
help extend the use of Norco or vicodin.
  Don't get me wrong, I'm totally sympathetic I've been on the trip myself.  
john s


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 Original message 
From: jume9...@comcast.net 
Date:11/24/2014 3:40 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: quad-list 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain 

I have the same thing with pinched nerves from my disc. Also, when I first 
broke my neck My hip on one side got inflamed with calcium deposits 
(hetertopicosification) witch has left me crooked. The last few years my whole 
other side has deterorated and so Norco has stopped working very well. What is 
the next step up in pain management.? They won't operate.

Meredith
From: alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com
To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:57:02 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia

I was told it was disintegrating disc disease. There's no cure for it. It 
causes nerves to be pinched as well as making it impossible to position 
comfortably. Spending long times sitting in the chair is really painful.I'm to 
the point now where I get out of bed for a couple hours each day.
Best wishes. 
john s


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Danny Hearn 
Date:11/24/2014 5:44 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: alcibiates2 ,quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia 

John, I read that many quads develope disc problems in their backs, did they do 
anything for yours or do you just get by as best you can with that??  thanks, 
Dan**


On Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:55 PM, alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com wrote:


Dan, I've had some fractures that were almost undetectable but really sent my 
bp up and pulse way down. Just the weight of my foot separated my tibia at the 
mantle below the knee. Chalky bones and deterioration

Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain

2014-12-05 Thread Quadius
If you're having lactose intolerance you can try multiple things to
ameliorate the situation. Lactase, avoiding dairy, using substitutes. Me I
have more of a dairy allergy most of the time.

On Thursday, December 4, 2014, Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Sounds like you might have some food allergies. Remember that allergies
 CAN develop over time, so just because you've never been lactose intolerant
 doesn't mean that hasn't changed. The one you hear about now is gluten
 sensitivity, but there are many foods that could be causing you to have
 reactions. Excessive gas in the stomach or intestines could easily cause
 A.D., as well as inflame your digestive tract. It might be worth seeing and
 allergist, or at least trying a change in diet to see what happens. For
 example, no dairy products for two weeks. Other common allergens include:
 eggs, nuts, shellfish, soy and wheat products. Carbonated beverages can
 cause gas too.

 Good luck. I hope you guys can figure it out!

 Don.

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 Empty bowels always makes me feel better. Sometimes I wish I could get by
 without eating anything at all. But, alas, hunger pangs interfere. I eat,
 become bloated and painful, and the whole thing starts over again. Bummer.

 Sent from my iPad

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 You are correct and I do that. Also, i have noticed that when you have a
 thorough bowel movement it helps the medicine work better...weird I know,
 but true for me. Anyone else notice that?

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 *Subject: *Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain

 I think that the first thing everyone needs to know about most pain drugs
 is that you must continually break the forming addiction.  Staying on one
 drug will cause it to lose its effectiveness.at that point you are taking
 the drug and its not doing anything but feeding an addiction. No one in
 pain wants to hear this but the fact is you must find another drug or
 device while you detox.
  The drug needs to come from another family of drugs.  Altering your
 medications and using milder drugs whatever the pain isn't quite as bad can
 help extend the use of Norco or vicodin.
   Don't get me wrong, I'm totally sympathetic I've been on the trip
 myself.
 john s


 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone


  Original message 
 From: jume9...@comcast.net
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jume9...@comcast.net');
 Date:11/24/2014 3:40 PM (GMT-05:00)
 To: quad-list
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain

 I have the same thing with pinched nerves from my disc. Also, when I first
 broke my neck My hip on one side got inflamed with calcium deposits
 (hetertopicosification) witch has left me crooked. The last few years my
 whole other side has deterorated and so Norco has stopped working very
 well. What is the next step up in pain management.? They won't operate.

 Meredith
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 quad-list@eskimo.com
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 *Sent: *Monday, November 24, 2014 5:57:02 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia

 I was told it was disintegrating disc disease. There's no cure for it. It
 causes nerves to be pinched as well as making it impossible to position
 comfortably. Spending long times sitting in the chair is really painful.I'm
 to the point now where I get out of bed for a couple hours each day.
 Best wishes.
 john s


 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone


  Original message 
 From: Danny Hearn
 Date:11/24/2014 5:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
 To: alcibiates2 ,quad-list@eskimo.com
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Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain

2014-12-04 Thread Bob Vogel
I agree with Don, food allergies CAN develop over time and at any age.  I 
developed celiac disease at age 50 (bummer!).
I *think* folks with SCI are more susceptible to developing food allergies 
because we get hit with so many bugs that 
require antibiotics, which mess up the good bacteria in our gut.  In some 
people a good probiotic taken daily can help.
Here is a New Mobility article I wrote about Celiac Disease and Non-Gluten 
Sensitivity
http://www.newmobility.com/2013/05/paramedic-gluten-sensitivity-celiac-disease-and-sci/

Bob V

On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Don Price wrote:

 Sounds like you might have some food allergies. Remember that allergies CAN 
 develop over time, so just because you've never been lactose intolerant 
 doesn't mean that hasn't changed. The one you hear about now is gluten 
 sensitivity, but there are many foods that could be causing you to have 
 reactions. Excessive gas in the stomach or intestines could easily cause 
 A.D., as well as inflame your digestive tract. It might be worth seeing and 
 allergist, or at least trying a change in diet to see what happens. For 
 example, no dairy products for two weeks. Other common allergens include: 
 eggs, nuts, shellfish, soy and wheat products. Carbonated beverages can cause 
 gas too.
 
 Good luck. I hope you guys can figure it out!
 
 Don.
 
 From: Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 9:24 AM
 Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain
 
 Empty bowels always makes me feel better. Sometimes I wish I could get by 
 without eating anything at all. But, alas, hunger pangs interfere. I eat, 
 become bloated and painful, and the whole thing starts over again. Bummer.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
 From: jume9...@comcast.net
 Date: November 24, 2014 at 5:25:01 PM EST
 To: alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com, quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain
 
 
 
 You are correct and I do that. Also, i have noticed that when you have a 
 thorough bowel movement it helps the medicine work better...weird I know, 
 but true for me. Anyone else notice that?
 
 From: alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com
 To: jume9...@comcast.net, quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 1:21:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain
 
 I think that the first thing everyone needs to know about most pain drugs is 
 that you must continually break the forming addiction.  Staying on one drug 
 will cause it to lose its effectiveness.at that point you are taking the 
 drug and its not doing anything but feeding an addiction. No one in pain 
 wants to hear this but the fact is you must find another drug or device 
 while you detox.
  The drug needs to come from another family of drugs.  Altering your 
 medications and using milder drugs whatever the pain isn't quite as bad can 
 help extend the use of Norco or vicodin.
   Don't get me wrong, I'm totally sympathetic I've been on the trip myself.  
 john s
 
 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
 
 
  Original message 
 From: jume9...@comcast.net 
 Date:11/24/2014 3:40 PM (GMT-05:00) 
 To: quad-list 
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain 
 
 I have the same thing with pinched nerves from my disc. Also, when I first 
 broke my neck My hip on one side got inflamed with calcium deposits 
 (hetertopicosification) witch has left me crooked. The last few years my 
 whole other side has deterorated and so Norco has stopped working very well. 
 What is the next step up in pain management.? They won't operate.
 
 Meredith
 From: alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com
 To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:57:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia
 
 I was told it was disintegrating disc disease. There's no cure for it. It 
 causes nerves to be pinched as well as making it impossible to position 
 comfortably. Spending long times sitting in the chair is really painful.I'm 
 to the point now where I get out of bed for a couple hours each day.
 Best wishes. 
 john s
 
 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
 
 
  Original message 
 From: Danny Hearn 
 Date:11/24/2014 5:44 AM (GMT-05:00) 
 To: alcibiates2 ,quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia 
 
 John, I read that many quads develope disc problems in their backs, did they 
 do anything for yours or do you just get by as best you can with that??  
 thanks, Dan**
 
 
 On Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:55 PM, alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 Dan, I've had some fractures that were almost undetectable but really sent 
 my bp up and pulse way down. Just the weight of my foot separated my tibia 
 at the mantle below the knee. Chalky bones and deterioration of spinal 
 disc's have

Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain

2014-12-04 Thread wheelchair
Bob, thanks for all of those great articles.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/4/2014 12:07:38 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
rhvsh...@mac.com writes:

I agree with Don, food allergies CAN develop  over time and at any age.  I 
developed celiac disease at age 50  (bummer!).  
I *think* folks with SCI are more  susceptible to developing food allergies 
because we get hit with so many bugs  that 
require antibiotics, which mess up  the good bacteria in our gut.  In some 
people a good probiotic taken  daily can help.
Here is a New Mobility article I  wrote about Celiac Disease and Non-Gluten 
Sensitivity
http://www.newmobility.com/2013/05/paramedic-gluten-sensitivity-celiac-disea
se-and-sci/


Bob V


On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Don Price wrote:



 
Sounds like you might have some food  allergies. Remember that allergies 
CAN develop over time, so just because  you've never been lactose intolerant 
doesn't mean that hasn't changed. The  one you hear about now is gluten 
sensitivity, but there are many foods that  could be causing you to have 
reactions. Excessive gas in the stomach or  intestines could easily cause A.D., 
as 
well as inflame your digestive tract.  It might be worth seeing and 
allergist, or at least trying a change in diet  to see what happens. For 
example, no 
dairy products for two weeks. Other  common allergens include: eggs, nuts, 
shellfish, soy and wheat products.  Carbonated beverages can cause gas too.


Good luck. I hope you guys can figure it  out!


Don.


 
  

 From: Larry Willis _lwillis82153@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com) 
To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)  
_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)  
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 9:24  AM
Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L]  Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain



 
Empty bowels always makes me feel  better. Sometimes I wish I could get by 
without eating anything at all. But,  alas, hunger pangs interfere. I eat, 
become bloated and painful, and the  whole thing starts over again. Bummer.

Sent  from my iPad

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Date: November 24, 2014 at 5:25:01 PM EST
To: alcibiates2 _alcibiates2@yahoo.com_ (mailto:alcibiat...@yahoo.com) ,  
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Subject: Re:  [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain







 
 
You are correct and I do that.  Also, i have noticed that when you have a 
thorough bowel movement it helps  the medicine work better...weird I know, 
but true for me. Anyone else  notice that?



 

From:  alcibiates2 _alcibiates2@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:alcibiat...@yahoo.com) 
To: _jume@comcast.net_ (mailto:jume9...@comcast.net) ,  quad-list 
_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 1:21:23 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain


I think that the first thing everyone needs to know about most pain  drugs 
is that you must continually break the forming addiction.  Staying on one 
drug will cause it to lose its _effectiveness.at_ (http://effectiveness.at/)  
that point you are taking  the drug and its not doing anything but feeding 
an addiction. No one in  pain wants to hear this but the fact is you must 
find another drug or  device while you detox.
 The drug needs to come from another family of drugs.  Altering your 
medications and using milder drugs whatever the pain  isn't quite as bad can 
help 
extend the use of Norco or vicodin.
  Don't get me wrong, I'm totally sympathetic I've been on the  trip 
myself.  
john s





Sent from my Verizon Wireless  4G LTE smartphone




 Original message 
From: _jume@comcast.net_ (mailto:jume9...@comcast.net)  
Date:11/24/2014 3:40 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To:  quad-list 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and  pain 



I have the same thing with pinched nerves from my disc. Also, when I  first 
broke my neck My hip on one side got inflamed with calcium deposits  
(hetertopicosification) witch has left me crooked. The last few years my  whole 
other side has deterorated and so Norco has stopped working very  well. What 
is the next step up in pain management.? They won't  operate.


Meredith

 

From:  alcibiates2 _alcibiates2@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:alcibiat...@yahoo.com) 
To: Danny Hearn _ddh247@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net) ,  
quad-list _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:57:02 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia


I was told it was disintegrating disc disease. There's no cure for  it. It 
causes nerves to be pinched as well as making it impossible to  position 
comfortably. Spending long times sitting in the chair is really  painful.I'm to 
the point now where I get out of bed

Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain

2014-11-24 Thread jume9999
I have the same thing with pinched nerves from my disc. Also, when I first 
broke my neck My hip on one side got inflamed with calcium deposits 
(hetertopicosification) witch has left me crooked. The last few years my whole 
other side has deterorated and so Norco has stopped working very well. What is 
the next step up in pain management.? They won't operate. 

Meredith 
- Original Message -

From: alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com 
To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:57:02 AM 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia 

I was told it was disintegrating disc disease. There's no cure for it. It 
causes nerves to be pinched as well as making it impossible to position 
comfortably. Spending long times sitting in the chair is really painful.I'm to 
the point now where I get out of bed for a couple hours each day. 
Best wishes. 
john s 


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone 


 Original message  
From: Danny Hearn 
Date:11/24/2014 5:44 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: alcibiates2 ,quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia 

John, I read that many quads develope disc problems in their backs, did they do 
anything for yours or do you just get by as best you can with that?? thanks, 
Dan** 


On Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:55 PM, alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com 
wrote: 


Dan, I've had some fractures that were almost undetectable but really sent my 
bp up and pulse way down. Just the weight of my foot separated my tibia at the 
mantle below the knee. Chalky bones and deterioration of spinal disc's have 
played hell with me. Try sitting straight up and take something for pain. Don't 
recline until your pulse returns to your normal never be afraid to 911 yourself 
to an er. 
Tip:take a copy of a medical definition of AD with you along with your med 
list. I swear they can be pig ignorant of what is going on and what to do. Help 
has gotten ambivalent in Cincinnati. 
Best Wishes, 
John s 







Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone 


 Original message  
From: Danny Hearn 
Date:11/23/2014 4:42 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia 

Man, I hate having dysreflexia and unable to find the cause, I have been having 
it on and off for about 3 days and have had almost no sleep for the last 2 
days. Bladder and bowels all seem fine-no pressure sores or etc. that we can 
find. When I try to lay down at night after a while I get real hot and clammy, 
my heart begins to pound and act up. I do have a syrinx and bad neck and back 
pain but not sure if that can be the problem. I guess Monday I'll try to call 
my primary doctor and get checkup and bloodwork for a start, This stuff is 
depressing and drives my wife crazy making her lose sleep also, plus she is a 
caregiver to an elderly woman with alzheimers 4 days a week. This Quad related 
stuff can be so challenging at times ! Well I guess i'm done venting...it's 
about 3:45 am. Hope To get better before long. Dan H*** 





Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain

2014-11-24 Thread alcibiates2
I think that the first thing everyone needs to know about most pain drugs is 
that you must continually break the forming addiction.  Staying on one drug 
will cause it to lose its effectiveness.at that point you are taking the drug 
and its not doing anything but feeding an addiction. No one in pain wants to 
hear this but the fact is you must find another drug or device while you detox.
 The drug needs to come from another family of drugs.  Altering your 
medications and using milder drugs whatever the pain isn't quite as bad can 
help extend the use of Norco or vicodin.
  Don't get me wrong, I'm totally sympathetic I've been on the trip myself.  
john s


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message 
From: jume9...@comcast.net 
Date:11/24/2014  3:40 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain 

I have the same thing with pinched nerves from my disc. Also, when I first 
broke my neck My hip on one side got inflamed with calcium deposits 
(hetertopicosification) witch has left me crooked. The last few years my whole 
other side has deterorated and so Norco has stopped working very well. What is 
the next step up in pain management.? They won't operate.

Meredith
From: alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com
To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:57:02 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia

I was told it was disintegrating disc disease. There's no cure for it. It 
causes nerves to be pinched as well as making it impossible to position 
comfortably. Spending long times sitting in the chair is really painful.I'm to 
the point now where I get out of bed for a couple hours each day.
Best wishes. 
john s


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Danny Hearn 
Date:11/24/2014 5:44 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: alcibiates2 ,quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia 

John, I read that many quads develope disc problems in their backs, did they do 
anything for yours or do you just get by as best you can with that??  thanks, 
Dan**


On Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:55 PM, alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com wrote:


Dan, I've had some fractures that were almost undetectable but really sent my 
bp up and pulse way down. Just the weight of my foot separated my tibia at the 
mantle below the knee. Chalky bones and deterioration of spinal disc's have 
played hell with me. Try sitting straight up and take something for pain. Don't 
recline until your pulse returns to your normal never be afraid to 911 yourself 
to an er.
Tip:take a copy of a medical definition of AD with you along with your med 
list. I swear they can be pig ignorant of what is going on and what to do. Help 
has gotten ambivalent in Cincinnati. 
Best Wishes,
John s







Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Danny Hearn 
Date:11/23/2014 4:42 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia 

Man, I hate having dysreflexia and unable to find the cause, I have been having 
it on and off for about 3 days and have had almost no sleep for the last 2 
days. Bladder and bowels all seem fine-no pressure sores or etc. that we can 
find. When I try to lay down at night after a while I get real hot and clammy, 
my heart begins to pound and act up. I do have a syrinx and bad neck and back 
pain but not sure if that can be the problem. I guess Monday I'll try to call 
my primary doctor and get checkup and bloodwork for a start, This stuff is 
depressing and drives my wife crazy making her lose sleep also, plus she is a 
caregiver to an elderly woman with alzheimers 4 days a week. This Quad related 
stuff can be so challenging at times ! Well I guess i'm done venting...it's 
about 3:45 am. Hope To get better before long.  Dan H***





Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain

2014-11-24 Thread jume9999
You are correct and I do that. Also, i have noticed that when you have a 
thorough bowel movement it helps the medicine work better...weird I know, but 
true for me. Anyone else notice that? 

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From: alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com 
To: jume9...@comcast.net, quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 1:21:23 PM 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain 

I think that the first thing everyone needs to know about most pain drugs is 
that you must continually break the forming addiction. Staying on one drug will 
cause it to lose its effectiveness.at that point you are taking the drug and 
its not doing anything but feeding an addiction. No one in pain wants to hear 
this but the fact is you must find another drug or device while you detox. 
The drug needs to come from another family of drugs. Altering your medications 
and using milder drugs whatever the pain isn't quite as bad can help extend the 
use of Norco or vicodin. 
Don't get me wrong, I'm totally sympathetic I've been on the trip myself. 
john s 


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 Original message  
From: jume9...@comcast.net 
Date:11/24/2014 3:40 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: quad-list 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain 

I have the same thing with pinched nerves from my disc. Also, when I first 
broke my neck My hip on one side got inflamed with calcium deposits 
(hetertopicosification) witch has left me crooked. The last few years my whole 
other side has deterorated and so Norco has stopped working very well. What is 
the next step up in pain management.? They won't operate. 

Meredith 
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From: alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com 
To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:57:02 AM 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia 

I was told it was disintegrating disc disease. There's no cure for it. It 
causes nerves to be pinched as well as making it impossible to position 
comfortably. Spending long times sitting in the chair is really painful.I'm to 
the point now where I get out of bed for a couple hours each day. 
Best wishes. 
john s 


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 Original message  
From: Danny Hearn 
Date:11/24/2014 5:44 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: alcibiates2 ,quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia 

John, I read that many quads develope disc problems in their backs, did they do 
anything for yours or do you just get by as best you can with that?? thanks, 
Dan** 


On Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:55 PM, alcibiates2 alcibiat...@yahoo.com 
wrote: 


Dan, I've had some fractures that were almost undetectable but really sent my 
bp up and pulse way down. Just the weight of my foot separated my tibia at the 
mantle below the knee. Chalky bones and deterioration of spinal disc's have 
played hell with me. Try sitting straight up and take something for pain. Don't 
recline until your pulse returns to your normal never be afraid to 911 yourself 
to an er. 
Tip:take a copy of a medical definition of AD with you along with your med 
list. I swear they can be pig ignorant of what is going on and what to do. Help 
has gotten ambivalent in Cincinnati. 
Best Wishes, 
John s 







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 Original message  
From: Danny Hearn 
Date:11/23/2014 4:42 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia 

Man, I hate having dysreflexia and unable to find the cause, I have been having 
it on and off for about 3 days and have had almost no sleep for the last 2 
days. Bladder and bowels all seem fine-no pressure sores or etc. that we can 
find. When I try to lay down at night after a while I get real hot and clammy, 
my heart begins to pound and act up. I do have a syrinx and bad neck and back 
pain but not sure if that can be the problem. I guess Monday I'll try to call 
my primary doctor and get checkup and bloodwork for a start, This stuff is 
depressing and drives my wife crazy making her lose sleep also, plus she is a 
caregiver to an elderly woman with alzheimers 4 days a week. This Quad related 
stuff can be so challenging at times ! Well I guess i'm done venting...it's 
about 3:45 am. Hope To get better before long. Dan H***