Re: [QUAD-L] Binder and Colotomy

2015-04-06 Thread Gail Holmes
The corset or binder has several purposes from what I've read.
It seems to not be for everybody though. It seems to be more important for the 
higher quads and newer injuries.

The c4-4 quad I work for has used one the better part of 3 decades and doesn't 
like to go without it when in his chair.

1) it can help with sustaining the blood pressure for those whose blood 
pressure runs too low when sitting upright ( orthostatic hypotension) 
It does this by compressing the larger blood vessels giving them some 
resistance. 

Of course if  you have a spike in blood pressure due to Autonomic Dysreflexia 
you should release the Velcro straps to help bring the blood pressure down 
while looking for the cause of the A.D.

2) it helps breathing when in the sitting position by making the abdominal wall 
more rigid so the diaphragm will be in a more normal position. 

3) it helps posture and balance if it has the metal or plastic stays in the 
back. 
Be sure the stays don't wiggle out and cause pressure.

4) appearance

Gail




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 On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:54 PM, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:
 
 Anyone with a colostomy also wear a abdominal binder?
 I can't find a binder that fits over one. Right now I just cut a hole in the 
 binder, but it just frays apart real fast.
 Plus, the binder moves and can cut into the stoma. I am going to buy a new 
 binder and just put it on over the stoma and bag and see if it can still work 
 and drain ok. I don't go much during the day usually.
 I just found a binder/belt that has a ring built into it that  bag snaps 
 onto. Made so you don't need to glue/tape a wafer onto the skin. I just worry 
 that the binder would move just a bit, then anything that comes out goes 
 right under the binder... messy mess. Plus, it only comes up to 9 inches tall 
 and I use 12. Good idea though.
 I think a binder with a pouch bubble over the stoma area would be  good idea. 
 You just need a binder that does not over lap itself. Or you would have to 
 line up 2 pouches on the binder. The binder I use now over laps itself, so I 
 had to cut 2 holes in the binder in that spot.
 


Re: [QUAD-L] Binder and Colotomy

2015-04-06 Thread Quadius
I'm wearing one right now for my urostomy, which is essentially the same
thing. I'll get the information for you. I don't like it as well as my
other one. US orthotics based here in Tampa can do one for you, but you
need to go through your local people to get them to order it.
Q

On Sunday, April 5, 2015, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:

 Anyone with a colostomy also wear a abdominal binder?
 I can't find a binder that fits over one. Right now I just cut a hole in
 the binder, but it just frays apart real fast.
 Plus, the binder moves and can cut into the stoma. I am going to buy a new
 binder and just put it on over the stoma and bag and see if it can still
 work and drain ok. I don't go much during the day usually.
 I just found a binder/belt that has a ring built into it that  bag snaps
 onto. Made so you don't need to glue/tape a wafer onto the skin. I just
 worry that the binder would move just a bit, then anything that comes out
 goes right under the binder... messy mess. Plus, it only comes up to 9
 inches tall and I use 12. Good idea though.
 I think a binder with a pouch bubble over the stoma area would be  good
 idea. You just need a binder that does not over lap itself. Or you would
 have to line up 2 pouches on the binder. The binder I use now over laps
 itself, so I had to cut 2 holes in the binder in that spot.




Re: [QUAD-L] Binder and Colotomy

2015-04-06 Thread Quadius
The one that I'm using is only 9 inches tall also. Because I have a long
torso I use a 10 inch regular binder above the binder that I use for my
lower abdominal region.
You need to adhere the colostomy/urostomy to the skin and then the binder
will help prevent any problems. If you get the right size it should move it
all and it is pretty easy to put on.

My problem is going to be that I I am considering getting a colostomy along
with the urostomy I already have. Then getting a binder that I can wear
with both of them will be a little more tricky.
Q

On Sunday, April 5, 2015, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:

 Anyone with a colostomy also wear a abdominal binder?
 I can't find a binder that fits over one. Right now I just cut a hole in
 the binder, but it just frays apart real fast.
 Plus, the binder moves and can cut into the stoma. I am going to buy a new
 binder and just put it on over the stoma and bag and see if it can still
 work and drain ok. I don't go much during the day usually.
 I just found a binder/belt that has a ring built into it that  bag snaps
 onto. Made so you don't need to glue/tape a wafer onto the skin. I just
 worry that the binder would move just a bit, then anything that comes out
 goes right under the binder... messy mess. Plus, it only comes up to 9
 inches tall and I use 12. Good idea though.
 I think a binder with a pouch bubble over the stoma area would be  good
 idea. You just need a binder that does not over lap itself. Or you would
 have to line up 2 pouches on the binder. The binder I use now over laps
 itself, so I had to cut 2 holes in the binder in that spot.




Re: [QUAD-L] Binder and Colotomy

2015-04-06 Thread Quadius
http://www.nu-hope.com/beltlit.pdf

I use the second belt down.

On Sunday, April 5, 2015, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:

 Anyone with a colostomy also wear a abdominal binder?
 I can't find a binder that fits over one. Right now I just cut a hole in
 the binder, but it just frays apart real fast.
 Plus, the binder moves and can cut into the stoma. I am going to buy a new
 binder and just put it on over the stoma and bag and see if it can still
 work and drain ok. I don't go much during the day usually.
 I just found a binder/belt that has a ring built into it that  bag snaps
 onto. Made so you don't need to glue/tape a wafer onto the skin. I just
 worry that the binder would move just a bit, then anything that comes out
 goes right under the binder... messy mess. Plus, it only comes up to 9
 inches tall and I use 12. Good idea though.
 I think a binder with a pouch bubble over the stoma area would be  good
 idea. You just need a binder that does not over lap itself. Or you would
 have to line up 2 pouches on the binder. The binder I use now over laps
 itself, so I had to cut 2 holes in the binder in that spot.




Re: [QUAD-L] Binder and Colotomy

2015-04-06 Thread wheelchair
Danny, similar to a corset or girdle.  It is made with elastic  material 
and velcro.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 4/6/2015 9:21:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
da...@immortaldesigns.co writes:

I've got  a colostomy but have never used an abdominal binder what are they
and what  is their purpose?

-Danny

-Original Message-
From:  greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 7:54 PM
To:  quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Binder and Colotomy

Anyone  with a colostomy also wear a abdominal binder?
I can't find a binder that  fits over one. Right now I just cut a hole in 
the
binder, but it just frays  apart real fast.
Plus, the binder moves and can cut into the stoma. I am  going to buy a new
binder and just put it on over the stoma and bag and see  if it can still
work and drain ok. I don't go much during the day  usually.
I just found a binder/belt that has a ring built into it  that  bag snaps
onto. Made so you don't need to glue/tape a wafer onto  the skin. I just
worry that the binder would move just a bit, then anything  that comes out
goes right under the binder... messy mess. Plus, it only  comes up to 9
inches tall and I use 12. Good idea though.
I think a  binder with a pouch bubble over the stoma area would be  good
idea.  You just need a binder that does not over lap itself. Or you would
have to  line up 2 pouches on the binder. The binder I use now over laps
itself, so  I had to cut 2 holes in the binder in that  spot.





RE: [QUAD-L] Binder and Colotomy

2015-04-06 Thread Danny
I've got a colostomy but have never used an abdominal binder what are they
and what is their purpose?

-Danny

-Original Message-
From: greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 7:54 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Binder and Colotomy

Anyone with a colostomy also wear a abdominal binder?
I can't find a binder that fits over one. Right now I just cut a hole in the
binder, but it just frays apart real fast.
Plus, the binder moves and can cut into the stoma. I am going to buy a new
binder and just put it on over the stoma and bag and see if it can still
work and drain ok. I don't go much during the day usually.
I just found a binder/belt that has a ring built into it that  bag snaps
onto. Made so you don't need to glue/tape a wafer onto the skin. I just
worry that the binder would move just a bit, then anything that comes out
goes right under the binder... messy mess. Plus, it only comes up to 9
inches tall and I use 12. Good idea though.
I think a binder with a pouch bubble over the stoma area would be  good
idea. You just need a binder that does not over lap itself. Or you would
have to line up 2 pouches on the binder. The binder I use now over laps
itself, so I had to cut 2 holes in the binder in that spot.




Re: [QUAD-L] Binder and Colotomy

2015-04-06 Thread Fragile
I believe their purpose is to support all of the organs inside the
abdominal cavity from falling, after they have lost support from
abdominal muscles due to atrophy.

On 4/6/15, Danny da...@immortaldesigns.co wrote:
 I've got a colostomy but have never used an abdominal binder what are they
 and what is their purpose?

 -Danny

 -Original Message-
 From: greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com]
 Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 7:54 PM
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: [QUAD-L] Binder and Colotomy

 Anyone with a colostomy also wear a abdominal binder?
 I can't find a binder that fits over one. Right now I just cut a hole in
 the
 binder, but it just frays apart real fast.
 Plus, the binder moves and can cut into the stoma. I am going to buy a new
 binder and just put it on over the stoma and bag and see if it can still
 work and drain ok. I don't go much during the day usually.
 I just found a binder/belt that has a ring built into it that  bag snaps
 onto. Made so you don't need to glue/tape a wafer onto the skin. I just
 worry that the binder would move just a bit, then anything that comes out
 goes right under the binder... messy mess. Plus, it only comes up to 9
 inches tall and I use 12. Good idea though.
 I think a binder with a pouch bubble over the stoma area would be  good
 idea. You just need a binder that does not over lap itself. Or you would
 have to line up 2 pouches on the binder. The binder I use now over laps
 itself, so I had to cut 2 holes in the binder in that spot.






RE: [QUAD-L] Binder and Colotomy

2015-04-06 Thread Ben Mattlin
I have always used an abdominal binder for breath support.  Eight years ago
I got a colostomy.  I wasn't sure how I would manage both.  Then I
discovered an abdominal binder with a ring cutout at the belly through which
my colostomy pouch fits perfectly.  Comes in all different sizes.  The one I
get is called the Nu-Form 7 Support Belt 2-1/2 Left Side Opening Placed
1-1/2 From Bottom, Large 36 - 40 Waist, Regular Elastic (Item # 796342G).

I order it online from EdgePark -
https://www.edgepark.com/ostomy/ostomy-accessories/ostomy-belts/nu-form-7-su
pport-belt-2-1-2-left-side-opening-placed-1-1-2-from-bottom-large-36---40-wa
ist-regular-elastic/p/796342g

Happy to discuss further, send pictures, etc.
__
BEN MATTLIN
www.BenMattlin.com
www.MiracleBoyGrowsUp.com

-Original Message-
From: greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 7:54 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Binder and Colotomy

Anyone with a colostomy also wear a abdominal binder?
I can't find a binder that fits over one. Right now I just cut a hole in the
binder, but it just frays apart real fast.
Plus, the binder moves and can cut into the stoma. I am going to buy a new
binder and just put it on over the stoma and bag and see if it can still
work and drain ok. I don't go much during the day usually.
I just found a binder/belt that has a ring built into it that  bag snaps
onto. Made so you don't need to glue/tape a wafer onto the skin. I just
worry that the binder would move just a bit, then anything that comes out
goes right under the binder... messy mess. Plus, it only comes up to 9
inches tall and I use 12. Good idea though.
I think a binder with a pouch bubble over the stoma area would be  good
idea. You just need a binder that does not over lap itself. Or you would
have to line up 2 pouches on the binder. The binder I use now over laps
itself, so I had to cut 2 holes in the binder in that spot.





Re: [QUAD-L] Binder and Colotomy

2015-04-05 Thread wheelchair
Have you consider a major rehab supply center?
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 4/5/2015 9:54:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

Anyone  with a colostomy also wear a abdominal binder?
I can't find a binder that  fits over one. Right now I just cut a hole in 
the binder, but it just frays  apart real fast.
Plus, the binder moves and can cut into the stoma. I am  going to buy a new 
binder and just put it on over the stoma and bag and see if  it can still 
work and drain ok. I don't go much during the day usually.
I  just found a binder/belt that has a ring built into it that  bag snaps  
onto. Made so you don't need to glue/tape a wafer onto the skin. I just 
worry  that the binder would move just a bit, then anything that comes out goes 
right  under the binder... messy mess. Plus, it only comes up to 9 inches 
tall and I  use 12. Good idea though.
I think a binder with a pouch bubble over the  stoma area would be  good 
idea. You just need a binder that does not over  lap itself. Or you would have 
to line up 2 pouches on the binder. The binder I  use now over laps itself, 
so I had to cut 2 holes in the binder in that  spot.