Re: [QUAD-L] Magic Bullet Suppositories losing their potency?
Lori, I do remember you and a lot of the members talking about that subject of the Magic bullets and it was a while back---but I recall you and a few others saying they seemed to be losing potency, I also recall all that marketing Scam or whatever was going on , making them unavailable or very hard to get for a long while. I don't know if any ingredients were changed then or not. We use the other type ( I think the slower acting Veggie oil based) but we do keep Magic Bullets on hand to use on occasion if we are in a hurry...( I think they are water based and a bit faster acting ) if ones system has not changed or like you said--got to be less effective. And like you stated...Our bodies can go thru changes and OR different drugs can have an effect also. Funny how this Quad Life can be so complicated, at times we all must help our own doctors even, to solve some problems. Hang in there Dan Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that we have discussed this exact topic but it has been at least a year or so since we did so. Anyway, if you read my previous post you will have read that I am back to doing my bowel routine in bed and I am no longer on OxyContin to bind me up. Even when I was using my bedside commode and I was in an upright position... the Magic Bullets have seemed to have lost the potency they once had. I began using them around 1990 when a coworker of mine told me about them. At that time, and for 10 years later, they worked lickety-split within 30 minutes and most every time I was completely evacuating all by myself. They were truly Magic Bullets! Even in 1996 when I was hospitalized for my shunt surgery and HAD to do my bowel routine in bed (after using the commode chair for so many years by then) and I had absolutely no problem going after the insertion of the Magic bullet. This is no longer the case. There was a time around three years ago that the makers of the Magic Bullets took them off the market but from my investigation I found out that it was a weird sort of marketing idea because afterward they were more expensive. Most people were told that the formula had to be 'or was' being changed, etc. etc. etc but I did not buy into that foolishness even if folks still believe that as gospel today. And it WAS THEN, and since then, that I have noticed a great difference by having them not work like they used to. Now no matter if I am doing exactly what I was doing before and now adding shredded wheat to my diet and other things for encouragement in the bowel department routine... I will feel a whole bunch of pressure as if I am going on my own but we will wait an entire hour and it simply will not come out. So I need the digital help EVERY SINGLE TIME because they're not working like they used to. One could say that my body has changed, etc. etc. and that may be true but, especially not being on that binding narcotic anymore, there is no reason I should not be going at least partially on my own. In fact, after weaning myself off of the narcotic... for a good week or more afterward I was going at all times of the day. Ugh! Loose too. My body was not used to all of a sudden not having the narcotic to buying me up a little bit (or a lot) after eight years and my bowels had a hay day! Fortunately it did not take much longer than a week to get it straightened out. But now I am having the opposite problem except for I am not bound up or constipated. When someone recently posed the question of possibly using two Magic Bullets I recently thought about that myself but decided that would be too rough on the lower bowel. They still DO get my stool right there and ready to come out but that is the end of the story. I remember a week in 1997 when I did not go for that entire week and could not figure out why. I began drinking prune juice daily, super increasing my fiber intake with absolutely nothing happening. It then dawned on me that I had began purchasing generic Senokot tablets that did not say Senokot on the box. So I had a family member go right to the store and get those and that was the whole problem! I sure went after that! That is not my problem now however. But... my bottom line question is still Has anyone noticed the decrease in performance of the Magic Bullets over the last several years? -- Lori C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ
Re: [QUAD-L] Magic Bullet Suppositories losing their potency?
I asked a pharmacist about the difference between magic bullets and dulcolax and he told me the active ingredients are the same, the magic bullet simply dissolves faster. I just use the bisocodyl suppositories and only a digital check to be sure I'm empty. The day before I use glyco-lax three times. I drink a tall glass of water the night before. Medication changes have always caused some trouble. Anti-biotics either bind you up or clean you out. No telling what they will do next time. I take hydro-codone and it can stop everything so I'm always sure not to take one 6 hours before getting on the commode. I mostly need them when I'm up in the wheelchair anyway. Someone said oxycontin bound then up. It would do exactly that. Opiates and derivetive opiates virtually paralyze your digestive tract for a period of time. If you have the runs, hydrocodone, percaset or oxycontin should be a remedy. I can't say it enough, do not abuse these drugs! Like the anti biotics and anti siezure drugs some of us use, these are very strong drugs. Tylenol is a serious medication that has never caused me to bind up, but it is hard on the liver. The only time I have a hard time driving my wheelchair is when I'm taking a pain med. My commode chair is rather comfy. My sister made a seat for it with 6 inches of foam that always poofs outward. My feet are on a stool (the kind you put feet on)and there's a sprinkle of baby powder on the seat. Don't remember why, but after 32 years its part of the system. The only time I have trouble seems to be when I'm not using my commode chair. I guess I love my potty! :- Oh yea, the strangest thing I do is read the bible while I'm on my throne. I'm not saying its an act of God. But I seem to go faster and easier. Everyone all together now, HOLY CRAP BATMAN! I've tried other books. nada! I'm not preaching, it just happens to help me. Best wishes john C-5 post 32 - Original Message From: Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2007 3:23:28 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Magic Bullet Suppositories losing their potency? Lori, I do remember you and a lot of the members talking about that subject of the Magic bullets and it was a while back---but I recall you and a few others saying they seemed to be losing potency, I also recall all that marketing Scam or whatever was going on , making them unavailable or very hard to get for a long while. I don't know if any ingredients were changed then or not. We use the other type ( I think the slower acting Veggie oil based) but we do keep Magic Bullets on hand to use on occasion if we are in a hurry...( I think they are water based and a bit faster acting ) if ones system has not changed or like you said--got to be less effective. And like you stated...Our bodies can go thru changes and OR different drugs can have an effect also. Funny how this Quad Life can be so complicated, at times we all must help our own doctors even, to solve some problems. Hang in there Dan Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that we have discussed this exact topic but it has been at least a year or so since we did so. Anyway, if you read my previous post you will have read that I am back to doing my bowel routine in bed and I am no longer on OxyContin to bind me up. Even when I was using my bedside commode and I was in an upright position... the Magic Bullets have seemed to have lost the potency they once had. I began using them around 1990 when a coworker of mine told me about them. At that time, and for 10 years later, they worked lickety-split within 30 minutes and most every time I was completely evacuating all by myself. They were truly Magic Bullets! Even in 1996 when I was hospitalized for my shunt surgery and HAD to do my bowel routine in bed (after using the commode chair for so many years by then) and I had absolutely no problem going after the insertion of the Magic bullet. This is no longer the case. There was a time around three years ago that the makers of the Magic Bullets took them off the market but from my investigation I found out that it was a weird sort of marketing idea because afterward they were more expensive. Most people were told that the formula had to be 'or was' being changed, etc. etc. etc but I did not buy into that foolishness even if folks still believe that as gospel today. And it WAS THEN, and since then, that I have noticed a great difference by having them not work like they used to. Now no matter if I am doing exactly what I was doing before and now adding shredded wheat to my diet and other things for encouragement in the bowel department routine... I will feel a whole bunch of pressure as if I am going on my own but we will wait an entire hour and it simply will not come out. So I need
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Re: [QUAD-L] Magic Bullet Suppositories losing their potency?
I remember you talking about this a while back and I have to agree with you. The magic bullets are nowhere near the same quality they were prior to the debacle three or four years ago. Additionally, I discovered that I am addicted to the magic bullet. I tried going back to other various suppositories and even using the generic magic bullet, but I am unable to get hardly any results and end up having severe impaction problems. I thought I was alone until I went to the Tampa VA and was told by the clinical nurses there that 90% of the quadriplegics who had become accustomed to the magic bullets were having the same difficulty. I never should have changed to the magic bullet in 98. I was told it was faster and frankly I don't think it is, despite the protestations of others. It seems like at least once a week I am forced to use to suppositories in order to get a decent amount of result. I have also tried using the enemas which have the active ingredient to no avail. They definitely have something in that product which is addictive and it is no longer nearly as effective as it used to be. We even tried storing them in the refrigerator to see if this would prolong the effectiveness. No go. Take care, Quadius On 10/9/07, Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that we have discussed this exact topic but it has been at least a year or so since we did so. Anyway, if you read my previous post you will have read that I am back to doing my bowel routine in bed and I am no longer on OxyContin to bind me up. Even when I was using my bedside commode and I was in an upright position... the Magic Bullets have seemed to have lost the potency they once had. I began using them around 1990 when a coworker of mine told me about them. At that time, and for 10 years later, they worked lickety-split within 30 minutes and most every time I was completely evacuating all by myself. They were truly Magic Bullets! Even in 1996 when I was hospitalized for my shunt surgery and HAD to do my bowel routine in bed (after using the commode chair for so many years by then) and I had absolutely no problem going after the insertion of the Magic bullet. This is no longer the case. There was a time around three years ago that the makers of the Magic Bullets took them off the market but from my investigation I found out that it was a weird sort of marketing idea because afterward they were more expensive. Most people were told that the formula had to be 'or was' being changed, etc. etc. etc but I did not buy into that foolishness even if folks still believe that as gospel today. And it WAS THEN, and since then, that I have noticed a great difference by having them not work like they used to. Now no matter if I am doing exactly what I was doing before and now adding shredded wheat to my diet and other things for encouragement in the bowel department routine... I will feel a whole bunch of pressure* as if*I am going on my own but we will wait an entire hour and it simply will not come out. So I need the digital help EVERY SINGLE TIME because they're not working like they used to. One could say that my body has changed, etc. etc. and that may be true * but,* especially not being on that binding narcotic anymore, there is no reason I should not be going at least partially on my own. In fact, after weaning myself off of the narcotic... for a good week or more afterward I was going at all times of the day. Ugh! Loose too. My body was not used to all of a sudden not having the narcotic to buying me up a little bit (or a lot) after eight years and my bowels had a hay day! Fortunately it did not take much longer than a week to get it straightened out. But now I am having the opposite problem except for I am not bound up or constipated. When someone recently posed the question of possibly using two Magic Bullets I recently thought about that myself but decided that would be too rough on the lower bowel. They still DO get my stool right there and ready to come out but that is the end of the story. I remember a week in 1997 when I did not go for that entire week and could not figure out why. I began drinking prune juice daily, super increasing my fiber intake with absolutely nothing happening. It then dawned on me that I had began purchasing *generic* Senokot tablets that did not say Senokot on the box. So I had a family member go right to the store and get those and that was the whole problem! I sure went after that! That is not my problem now however. But... my bottom line question is still Has anyone noticed the decrease in performance of the Magic Bullets over the last several years? -- Lori C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ
