Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare
i'll attempt to chime in w/ my opinion. full-size van i was caught dangling because the 'flaps' didn't pop up...yep, sucked...minivan, i've had 2 entervans & guess what my next 1 will be? (Don't u guys love gmail?) Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Lori Michaelson To: quad-list Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 5:54 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare I forgot to post this to the list. Just in case, or perhaps, others want to chime in or have been or will be in the same or similar dilemmas. -- Forwarded message -- From: Lori Michaelson Date: Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare To: Quadius POWER WHEELCHAIRS, NEW VANS, and I'M GROWING!!! ** Yesterday, when my DEMO INVACARE TDX was still in the house... my husband measured the seat pan to floor distance for the Invacare TDX and it is about an inch lower than my current 12-year-old Permobile Chairman. Like Quadius, when my van rocks back and forth for any reason... I also will/can get my eyebrow area on the felt-like material of the indoor roof of my minivan. Not to mention not being able to easily get under tables in restaurants and home. So that inch might make a world of difference... or not. Tough call. ** Here's an interesting tidbit of information: Since I have pretty much been bedridden over the last year and a half (because of my wound) ... the times that I HAVE had to get into my van to go to the Wound Care or other places ... every time I go to get into my van it seems like I have to bend my head down/forward further and farther each time. Then, after I am in my van as a passenger... it seems like I keep sitting taller and taller and taller. MAKING NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. But when I went for my "seating evaluation" not long ago I mentioned this to the Occupational Therapist and I think she figured out what/is was happening. While I was used to sitting up in my chair for at least 7 hours every day ... the spine or vertebrae are usually compressed little by little over time (making me sit a little shorter). But having to be in bed 99.99% of the time over the last year + that much time does not allow for any vertebrae compression. So ALMOST the reverse has been happening over the last year! My upper torso probably has been growing! :-) To make it worse, I am always been "pulled up" (at least once a day) in bed because I easily slide down in the bed on my rotating air mattress during the day. So that stretches my upper torso as well. I don't think I would have ever thought of that! ** And since my van is almost 13 years old (Braun Enter Van - Dodge) ... it is also time for me to look for another van (for reasons of my own). So I have had a minivan for the last 12 1/2 years. Before that I had 3 full-size vans since my injury 31 years ago. That is a whole other story/dilemma -- to stay with a minivan with all of its pros and cons or go back to a full-size van with all of its pros and cons. DECISIONS, DECISIONS!!! Since I have had both and already know the pros and cons... it does not make the choice any easier! Especially when choosing a new chair AT THE SAME TIME. One would think that might be easier but it's not. Are we twins Quadius? Lori C 4/5 Complete Quad, 31 years post Tucson Arizona On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Quadius wrote: I agree with all the limitations which Lori has adequately highlighted. I might mention that my Permobile also tends to bounce around in my van a little that I would like. In fact, I got a C. 350 so the seat to floor distance would be lower, but I am still about a half-inch from the top of my Uplander. My problem is that when someone takes a turn too quickly to the left or a speed bump I risk hitting my head against the side molding. Now I'm thinking about whether I might need to think about another van. Quadius On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Lori Michaelson wrote: Absolutely the dealer should have gotten in trouble and made it right! What you said made me remember WHEN, in January of 1999, I got my Permobile. It took forever for the dealer to make the chair right for me after it was delivered. THEN, the first time I needed new batteries (X-number of years later) we found out that the dealer who sold me my chair had taken out the gel cell batteries that the chair was SUPPOSED TO come with and replaced them with acid, deep cell batteries! By then, we had moved from New York State so we found out we got screwed too late. We think they stripped the chair of what they could and I got the runt of the litter. Also, I remember that the dealer or Permobile (can't remember now nearly 14 years later) let me try out a chair for a week in early 1997 and the chair I tried out easily slid
Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare
I agree with all the limitations which Lori has adequately highlighted. I might mention that my Permobile also tends to bounce around in my van a little that I would like. In fact, I got a C. 350 so the seat to floor distance would be lower, but I am still about a half-inch from the top of my Uplander. My problem is that when someone takes a turn too quickly to the left or a speed bump I risk hitting my head against the side molding. Now I'm thinking about whether I might need to think about another van. Quadius On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Lori Michaelson wrote: > Absolutely the dealer should have gotten in trouble and made it right! > What you said made me remember WHEN, in January of 1999, I got my > Permobile. It took forever for the dealer to make the chair right for me > after it was delivered. > > THEN, the first time I needed new batteries (X-number of years later) we > found out that the dealer who sold me my chair had taken out the gel cell > batteries that the chair was SUPPOSED TO come with and replaced them with > acid, deep cell batteries! By then, we had moved from New York State so we > found out we got screwed too late. We think they stripped the chair of what > they could and I got the runt of the litter. > > Also, I remember that the dealer or Permobile (can't remember now nearly 14 > years later) let me *try out a chair* for a week in early 1997 and the > chair I tried out easily slid under tables and had a comfortable back, etc. > but I did not make my FINAL DECISION to choose a Permobile until the middle > of 1998 and it arrived in January of 1999. > > Looking back NOW, I can see that the chair I tried out for a week and the > chair that I FINALLY GOT WERE NOT one and the same. > > I now understand why "seating evaluations" BEFORE HAND need to occur!!! > And constantly following up with the dealer TO MAKE SURE everything is > kosher before all is said and done. > > Lori > > > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:13 AM, wrote: > >> II really liked my Chairman 2K but my dealer sold me a C. 300 and I >> don't like it at all. The C. 500 is the same as the Chairman 2K. He did not >> tell me this until 6 months after I had the chair. I told him I wanted the >> same chair. The company would not do anything nor would Permobile . They >> said it was too late. The dealer was United Seating and Mobility (previously >> Apria) I got the Chairman 2K through Apria.. The dealer should have gotten >> in trouble and they should have made it right. >> Dana >> in a message dated 11/8/2010 5:24:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, >> wheelch...@aol.com writes: >> >> Atta Boy Eric! If you send an email to Mark Smith-Product Manager at >> Pride Quantum Div with your Provider and Purchase order, he will personally >> update you with any progress of your chair. Mark can be reached at: >> msm...@pridemobility.com >> >> Best Wishes >> >> In a message dated 11/8/2010 1:44:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, >> c5sc...@gmail.com writes: >> >> Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to >> reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to >> a very close dealer. >> >> Eric W Rudd >> c5sc...@gmail.com >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* Derrick >> *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com >> *Sent:* Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM >> *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare >> >> I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. >> >> I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. >> Which do you prefer and why? >> >> Any suggested questions that I should ask? >> Thanks, >> Derrick >> Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry >> i'll get your message >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Lori > Age - 46 > C4/5 complete quad, 31 years post > Tucson, AZ >
Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare
As always, remember the value of your signature. Don't accept, don't sign until all is done properly. Your valued signature is what gets the company its money. No signature, no money. Best Wishes In a message dated 11/9/2010 7:16:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, lorilivin...@gmail.com writes: Absolutely the dealer should have gotten in trouble and made it right! What you said made me remember WHEN, in January of 1999, I got my Permobile. It took forever for the dealer to make the chair right for me after it was delivered. THEN, the first time I needed new batteries (X-number of years later) we found out that the dealer who sold me my chair had taken out the gel cell batteries that the chair was SUPPOSED TO come with and replaced them with acid, deep cell batteries! By then, we had moved from New York State so we found out we got screwed too late. We think they stripped the chair of what they could and I got the runt of the litter. Also, I remember that the dealer or Permobile (can't remember now nearly 14 years later) let me try out a chair for a week in early 1997 and the chair I tried out easily slid under tables and had a comfortable back, etc. but I did not make my FINAL DECISION to choose a Permobile until the middle of 1998 and it arrived in January of 1999. Looking back NOW, I can see that the chair I tried out for a week and the chair that I FINALLY GOT WERE NOT one and the same. I now understand why "seating evaluations" BEFORE HAND need to occur!!! And constantly following up with the dealer TO MAKE SURE everything is kosher before all is said and done. Lori On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:13 AM, <_daa...@aol.com_ (mailto:daa...@aol.com) > wrote: II really liked my Chairman 2K but my dealer sold me a C. 300 and I don't like it at all. The C. 500 is the same as the Chairman 2K. He did not tell me this until 6 months after I had the chair. I told him I wanted the same chair. The company would not do anything nor would Permobile . They said it was too late. The dealer was United Seating and Mobility (previously Apria) I got the Chairman 2K through Apria.. The dealer should have gotten in trouble and they should have made it right. Dana in a message dated 11/8/2010 5:24:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, _wheelch...@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) writes: Atta Boy Eric! If you send an email to Mark Smith-Product Manager at Pride Quantum Div with your Provider and Purchase order, he will personally update you with any progress of your chair. Mark can be reached at: _msm...@pridemobility.com_ (mailto:msm...@pridemobility.com) Best Wishes In a message dated 11/8/2010 1:44:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) writes: Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to a very close dealer. Eric W Rudd _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) - Original Message - From: _Derrick_ (mailto:whe...@cvn.net) To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. Which do you prefer and why? Any suggested questions that I should ask? Thanks, Derrick Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry i'll get your message -- Lori Age - 46 C4/5 complete quad, 31 years post Tucson, AZ
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which is why i'm going local Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Lori Michaelson To: daa...@aol.com ; quad-list Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare Absolutely the dealer should have gotten in trouble and made it right! What you said made me remember WHEN, in January of 1999, I got my Permobile. It took forever for the dealer to make the chair right for me after it was delivered. THEN, the first time I needed new batteries (X-number of years later) we found out that the dealer who sold me my chair had taken out the gel cell batteries that the chair was SUPPOSED TO come with and replaced them with acid, deep cell batteries! By then, we had moved from New York State so we found out we got screwed too late. We think they stripped the chair of what they could and I got the runt of the litter. Also, I remember that the dealer or Permobile (can't remember now nearly 14 years later) let me try out a chair for a week in early 1997 and the chair I tried out easily slid under tables and had a comfortable back, etc. but I did not make my FINAL DECISION to choose a Permobile until the middle of 1998 and it arrived in January of 1999. Looking back NOW, I can see that the chair I tried out for a week and the chair that I FINALLY GOT WERE NOT one and the same. I now understand why "seating evaluations" BEFORE HAND need to occur!!! And constantly following up with the dealer TO MAKE SURE everything is kosher before all is said and done. Lori On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:13 AM, wrote: II really liked my Chairman 2K but my dealer sold me a C. 300 and I don't like it at all. The C. 500 is the same as the Chairman 2K. He did not tell me this until 6 months after I had the chair. I told him I wanted the same chair. The company would not do anything nor would Permobile . They said it was too late. The dealer was United Seating and Mobility (previously Apria) I got the Chairman 2K through Apria.. The dealer should have gotten in trouble and they should have made it right. Dana in a message dated 11/8/2010 5:24:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, wheelch...@aol.com writes: Atta Boy Eric! If you send an email to Mark Smith-Product Manager at Pride Quantum Div with your Provider and Purchase order, he will personally update you with any progress of your chair. Mark can be reached at: msm...@pridemobility.com Best Wishes In a message dated 11/8/2010 1:44:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to a very close dealer. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Derrick To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. Which do you prefer and why? Any suggested questions that I should ask? Thanks, Derrick Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry i'll get your message -- Lori Age - 46 C4/5 complete quad, 31 years post Tucson, AZ
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Absolutely the dealer should have gotten in trouble and made it right! What you said made me remember WHEN, in January of 1999, I got my Permobile. It took forever for the dealer to make the chair right for me after it was delivered. THEN, the first time I needed new batteries (X-number of years later) we found out that the dealer who sold me my chair had taken out the gel cell batteries that the chair was SUPPOSED TO come with and replaced them with acid, deep cell batteries! By then, we had moved from New York State so we found out we got screwed too late. We think they stripped the chair of what they could and I got the runt of the litter. Also, I remember that the dealer or Permobile (can't remember now nearly 14 years later) let me *try out a chair* for a week in early 1997 and the chair I tried out easily slid under tables and had a comfortable back, etc. but I did not make my FINAL DECISION to choose a Permobile until the middle of 1998 and it arrived in January of 1999. Looking back NOW, I can see that the chair I tried out for a week and the chair that I FINALLY GOT WERE NOT one and the same. I now understand why "seating evaluations" BEFORE HAND need to occur!!! And constantly following up with the dealer TO MAKE SURE everything is kosher before all is said and done. Lori On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:13 AM, wrote: > II really liked my Chairman 2K but my dealer sold me a C. 300 and I don't > like it at all. The C. 500 is the same as the Chairman 2K. He did not tell > me this until 6 months after I had the chair. I told him I wanted the same > chair. The company would not do anything nor would Permobile . They said it > was too late. The dealer was United Seating and Mobility (previously Apria) > I got the Chairman 2K through Apria.. The dealer should have gotten in > trouble and they should have made it right. > Dana > in a message dated 11/8/2010 5:24:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, > wheelch...@aol.com writes: > > Atta Boy Eric! If you send an email to Mark Smith-Product Manager at > Pride Quantum Div with your Provider and Purchase order, he will personally > update you with any progress of your chair. Mark can be reached at: > msm...@pridemobility.com > > Best Wishes > > In a message dated 11/8/2010 1:44:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, > c5sc...@gmail.com writes: > > Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to > reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to > a very close dealer. > > Eric W Rudd > c5sc...@gmail.com > > - Original Message - > *From:* Derrick > *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM > *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare > > I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. > > I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. > Which do you prefer and why? > > Any suggested questions that I should ask? > Thanks, > Derrick > Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry > i'll get your message > > > > > -- Lori Age - 46 C4/5 complete quad, 31 years post Tucson, AZ
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Oh, I thought you mentioned that you were getting a Quantum by Pride. Mark sends out lil presents with the order if you ask ahead of time. If not, that's ok too. Best Wishes In a message dated 11/8/2010 5:24:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: confused here...need 2 correspond w/ Mark why? Eric W Rudd _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) - Original Message - From: _wheelch...@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) To: _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) ; _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare Atta Boy Eric! If you send an email to Mark Smith-Product Manager at Pride Quantum Div with your Provider and Purchase order, he will personally update you with any progress of your chair. Mark can be reached at: _msm...@pridemobility.com_ (mailto:msm...@pridemobility.com) Best Wishes In a message dated 11/8/2010 1:44:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) writes: Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to a very close dealer. Eric W Rudd _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) - Original Message - From: _Derrick_ (mailto:whe...@cvn.net) To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. Which do you prefer and why? Any suggested questions that I should ask? Thanks, Derrick Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry i'll get your message
Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare
II really liked my Chairman 2K but my dealer sold me a C. 300 and I don't like it at all. The C. 500 is the same as the Chairman 2K. He did not tell me this until 6 months after I had the chair. I told him I wanted the same chair. The company would not do anything nor would Permobile . They said it was too late. The dealer was United Seating and Mobility (previously Apria) I got the Chairman 2K through Apria.. The dealer should have gotten in trouble and they should have made it right. Dana in a message dated 11/8/2010 5:24:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, wheelch...@aol.com writes: Atta Boy Eric! If you send an email to Mark Smith-Product Manager at Pride Quantum Div with your Provider and Purchase order, he will personally update you with any progress of your chair. Mark can be reached at: _msm...@pridemobility.com_ (mailto:msm...@pridemobility.com) Best Wishes In a message dated 11/8/2010 1:44:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to a very close dealer. Eric W Rudd _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) - Original Message - From: _Derrick_ (mailto:whe...@cvn.net) To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. Which do you prefer and why? Any suggested questions that I should ask? Thanks, Derrick Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry i'll get your message
Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare
confused here...need 2 correspond w/ Mark why? Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: wheelch...@aol.com To: c5sc...@gmail.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare Atta Boy Eric! If you send an email to Mark Smith-Product Manager at Pride Quantum Div with your Provider and Purchase order, he will personally update you with any progress of your chair. Mark can be reached at: msm...@pridemobility.com Best Wishes In a message dated 11/8/2010 1:44:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to a very close dealer. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Derrick To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. Which do you prefer and why? Any suggested questions that I should ask? Thanks, Derrick Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry i'll get your message
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color?...black, of course! when i 1st read this, i thought u were talkin
legbag opener color...but then u said shiny red, pictured...here i go speeding
in my chair & open my new shiny legbag opener...hearing the kid in the
christmas story (you'll shoot ur eye out kid) lol
Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com
- Original Message -
From: Lori Michaelson
To: Eric W Rudd ; quad-list
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare
Oh, I most definitely did not think you did not do your research! I know you
better than that. :-)
I am just curious (and I am sure that many other people are for when they
need new chairs) WHAT chairs people are choosing and WHY.
That is great that you are getting a leg bag opener put on it!!!
What color did you pick? The DEMO that my husband brought back today is a
shiny red color around the base and the tire rims. I like the red color but not
sure right now what color I will end up choosing.
Again, thanks again for your information! And hope you get it sooner than
later!
Lori
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Eric W Rudd wrote:
The closer dealer is not 'permobil authorized' & the previous permobil
dealer went under. Believe me I've done alot of research, including
wheelchairjunkie.
lol it surely can't be 2 much longer til it arrives...he has it but was
waiting for my legbag emptier.
Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com
- Original Message -
From: Lori Michaelson
To: quad-list
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare
Hi Eric,
If you "much prefer your Permobiles over your Invacare solely due to
reliability" I would be very leery of changing. ESPECIALLY after having TWO
Permobiles to more or less prove that.
Even though the dealer for A Quantum is much closer... just curious as to
why you would want to change? Because I would put reliability first or before
getting another chair.
For example, my dealer/vendor is not exactly close by for WHICHEVER chair
I use ... but I surely want one that I know has been reliable <--- to avoid
going to the shop x-number of times.
Any idea when your Quantum will arrive? I know these days that it takes
6+ months to GET any new chair so it is just a waiting game for you or can you
call someone every once in a while to get an idea of when to expect it?
Thanks in advance!
Lori
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Eric W Rudd wrote:
Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to
reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to a
very close dealer.
Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com
- Original Message -
From: Derrick
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare
I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci.
I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for
evaluation.
Which do you prefer and why?
Any suggested questions that I should ask?
Thanks,
Derrick
Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not
worry i'll get your message
--
Lori
Age - 46
C4/5 complete quad, 31 years post
Tucson, AZ
--
Lori
Age - 46
C4/5 complete quad, 31 years post
Tucson, AZ
Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare
Atta Boy Eric! If you send an email to Mark Smith-Product Manager at Pride Quantum Div with your Provider and Purchase order, he will personally update you with any progress of your chair. Mark can be reached at: _msm...@pridemobility.com_ (mailto:msm...@pridemobility.com) Best Wishes In a message dated 11/8/2010 1:44:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to a very close dealer. Eric W Rudd _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) - Original Message - From: _Derrick_ (mailto:whe...@cvn.net) To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. Which do you prefer and why? Any suggested questions that I should ask? Thanks, Derrick Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry i'll get your message
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Oh, I most definitely did not think you did not do your research! I know you better than that. :-) I am just curious (and I am sure that many other people are for when they need new chairs) WHAT chairs people are choosing and WHY. That is great that you are getting a leg bag opener put on it!!! What color did you pick? The DEMO that my husband brought back today is a shiny red color around the base and the tire rims. I like the red color but not sure right now what color I will end up choosing. Again, thanks again for your information! And hope you get it sooner than later! Lori On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Eric W Rudd wrote: > The closer dealer is not 'permobil authorized' & the previous permobil > dealer went under. Believe me I've done alot of research, including > wheelchairjunkie. > > lol it surely can't be 2 much longer til it arrives...he has it but was > waiting for my legbag emptier. > > Eric W Rudd > c5sc...@gmail.com > > - Original Message - > *From:* Lori Michaelson > *To:* quad-list > *Sent:* Monday, November 08, 2010 2:48 PM > *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare > > Hi Eric, > > If you "much prefer your Permobiles over your Invacare solely due to > reliability" I would be very leery of changing. ESPECIALLY after having TWO > Permobiles to more or less prove that. > > Even though the dealer for A Quantum is much closer... just curious as to > *why* you would want to change? Because I would put reliability first > or before getting another chair. > > For example, my dealer/vendor is not exactly close by for WHICHEVER chair I > use ... but I surely want one that I know has been reliable <--- to avoid > going to the shop x-number of times. > > Any idea when your Quantum will arrive? I know these days that it takes 6+ > months to GET any new chair so it is just a waiting game for you or can you > call someone every once in a while to get an idea of when to expect it? > > Thanks in advance! > > Lori > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Eric W Rudd wrote: > >> Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to >> reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to >> a very close dealer. >> >> Eric W Rudd >> c5sc...@gmail.com >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* Derrick >> *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com >> *Sent:* Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM >> *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare >> >> I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. >> >> I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. >> Which do you prefer and why? >> >> Any suggested questions that I should ask? >> Thanks, >> Derrick >> Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry >> i'll get your message >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Lori > Age - 46 > C4/5 complete quad, 31 years post > Tucson, AZ > > -- Lori Age - 46 C4/5 complete quad, 31 years post Tucson, AZ
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The closer dealer is not 'permobil authorized' & the previous permobil dealer went under. Believe me I've done alot of research, including wheelchairjunkie. lol it surely can't be 2 much longer til it arrives...he has it but was waiting for my legbag emptier. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Lori Michaelson To: quad-list Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare Hi Eric, If you "much prefer your Permobiles over your Invacare solely due to reliability" I would be very leery of changing. ESPECIALLY after having TWO Permobiles to more or less prove that. Even though the dealer for A Quantum is much closer... just curious as to why you would want to change? Because I would put reliability first or before getting another chair. For example, my dealer/vendor is not exactly close by for WHICHEVER chair I use ... but I surely want one that I know has been reliable <--- to avoid going to the shop x-number of times. Any idea when your Quantum will arrive? I know these days that it takes 6+ months to GET any new chair so it is just a waiting game for you or can you call someone every once in a while to get an idea of when to expect it? Thanks in advance! Lori On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Eric W Rudd wrote: Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to a very close dealer. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Derrick To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. Which do you prefer and why? Any suggested questions that I should ask? Thanks, Derrick Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry i'll get your message -- Lori Age - 46 C4/5 complete quad, 31 years post Tucson, AZ
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Hi Eric, If you "much prefer your Permobiles over your Invacare solely due to reliability" I would be very leery of changing. ESPECIALLY after having TWO Permobiles to more or less prove that. Even though the dealer for A Quantum is much closer... just curious as to * why* you would want to change? Because I would put reliability first or before getting another chair. For example, my dealer/vendor is not exactly close by for WHICHEVER chair I use ... but I surely want one that I know has been reliable <--- to avoid going to the shop x-number of times. Any idea when your Quantum will arrive? I know these days that it takes 6+ months to GET any new chair so it is just a waiting game for you or can you call someone every once in a while to get an idea of when to expect it? Thanks in advance! Lori On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Eric W Rudd wrote: > Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to > reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to > a very close dealer. > > Eric W Rudd > c5sc...@gmail.com > > - Original Message - > *From:* Derrick > *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM > *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare > > I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. > > I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. > Which do you prefer and why? > > Any suggested questions that I should ask? > Thanks, > Derrick > Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry > i'll get your message > > > > -- Lori Age - 46 C4/5 complete quad, 31 years post Tucson, AZ
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The best wheelchair is the one that can be repaired or adjusted in the least amount of time. Your provider get their best deals on Permobil. Best Wishes In a message dated 11/8/2010 1:29:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, whe...@cvn.net writes: I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. Which do you prefer and why? Any suggested questions that I should ask? Thanks, Derrick Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry i'll get your message
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Well, I have been using the same *Permobile* *Chairman* of the last 12 years. So now it is finally time to look into other options. My biggest complaint with the *Permobile* is that it sits too high. I can't fit under most tables or, if I can, barely so. I don't drive but I can't see out my van Windows which makes for poor drives (scenic or otherwise). From the seat plate to the floor it is 18/2 inches (or close to 19 inches) and then I have my wheelchair cushion on top of that. Anyway, the *Invacare* chairs sit much lower so that is a plus. Actually, my *Permobile* has treated me very well over all these years. Which is good because they are made in Sweden and often times it will be very difficult to get parts (even though they have a branch in Tennessee). Fortunately, anything I have needed over the last 12 years... my vendor has easily been able to fix and therefore I have not had to go more then one day without my chair. According to my vendor, if I am looking for a new chair (which I am) then * Invacare* is probably the way to go because they had such a BIG VARIETY of options (seating, backing, controls, etc.) and getting parts for them is super easy compared to getting parts for a Permobile. I was also considering the *Quantum* 600 (made by Pride Mobility) but not so much now after my seating evaluation that was done a week ago today (Monday). There is nothing WRONG with going where they *Quantum* power chair ... it is just that my vendor is telling me that Invacare is better to go with for not only a huge amount of selections for seating and so much more as well as easily getting parts. However, he did say (for certain reasons I can't remember at the moment) that perhaps I might want to stay with getting another Permobile. My husband is in the process (as I write this) of taking a DEMO* INVARE FDX *wheelchair back to the vendor today. I didn't even get a chance to write here that my vendor got an Invacare FDX (latest model of the Invacare chairs) for me to be able to try out (over this last weekend) before making a final decision on what chair I do want. The *Invacare* *FDX* is Invacare's latest model that has many cool features. But when I first saw it on Friday, and over the weekend, it looks so Mickey Mouse compared to the chair I am using. It is definitely smaller and more compact. I easily fit into it ... it just looks so "cheap." Anyway, my husband picked it up on Friday, brought it home, he was pretty sure that I would not be able to reach the joystick and the controls. Sure enough, when I got into it late Friday afternoon... I could NOT reached the joystick port controls am therefore I couldn't try it out all weekend! So that was a wasted trip on Friday and now he has to take it back today! What is really frustrating is that when he was down there on Friday and the representative was showing him everything on the wheelchair (how this feature and that feature works) my husband mentioned that "It doesn't look like Lori will be able to reach the joystick or controls" but the guy didn't say anything and did not respond. But what he DID say (after my husband said that I probably would not be able to reach the joystick or controls) was that "They can't ALTER demos."* Well, what good is a DEMO if the person can't use it to try it out??? * Just another thing for my husband to have to do. And the vendor that we are going through isn't exactly close by (with traffic and everything it is probably 30 or 35 minutes). *UPDATE* - As I am writing this... my husband just called me from the vendor shop and told me that they are modifying the chair right now. So now he has to bring it back, I have to try it out again and OF ALL WEEKS this is an extremely busy one. So he has to worry about getting me in and out of that chair during the 3 or 4 hour four hour timeframe that I can be up (cuz of my wound area) as well as having to take it back to the vendor after I try it out x-number of days. BIG DECISIONS TO MAKE FOR AS CHAIR I'LL SIT IN FOR MANY YEAS TO COME! Lori On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Eric W Rudd wrote: > Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to > reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to > a very close dealer. > > Eric W Rudd > c5sc...@gmail.com > > - Original Message - > *From:* Derrick > *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM > *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare > > I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. > > I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. > Which do you prefer and why? > > Any suggested questions that I should ask? > Thanks, > Derrick > Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry > i'll get your message > > > > -- Lori Age - 46 C4/5 complete quad, 31 years post Tucson, AZ
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Personally, I much prefer my Permobils over my Invacare solely due to reliability. After having 2 Permobils I've decided to try a Quantum due to a very close dealer. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Derrick To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:07 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Permobil or Invacare I have had electric Invacare wheelchairs all my years with c/5 sci. I hear Permobil is better and my vendor is bringing one for evaluation. Which do you prefer and why? Any suggested questions that I should ask? Thanks, Derrick Ps:if you get a message from my spamblocker whenn replying -do not worry i'll get your message
