Re: OS Help!

2003-11-03 Thread Denny Davis 
At 10:41 AM -0800 on 11/3/03, Terry Graham wittily wrote:


>At 2:22 AM -0500 11/3/03, Scott Granlund wrote:
>>
>>I've been running 9.2.1 on my 8500 and it's been just a little nicer for
>>me. I think the OpenGL is a newer version and it runs the video just a
>>little smoother. Starts up quite a bit faster too. Really stable also, I
>>leave the thing on for months sometimes.
>
>Hi Scott,
>Did you mean 'nicer' than 9.1?
>
>What is the OpenGL architecture exactly?  Is it like the computer's way of
>handling
>graphics and video and what are the counterparts that it replaces. . .
>GXGraphics?
>Quickdraw? etc.
>
>>If you're interested in experiments, I believe there is a version of Linux
>>that runs fairly well on the 950. Neither OpenBSD or NetBSD will run on it
>>(rats!) but Apple's A/UX will (3.1.1) and it's fairly interesting. It runs
>>System 7.0.1 and Unix, side by side. Plenty of downloads still out there.
>
>
>I have Linux 6.1 redhat
>and LinuxPPC 1999. . . on CD but I've never tried them.
>

Linux is a variant of Unix more or less and both use a command line.
I am not sure if Linux 6.1 redhat will run on a 68k Mac, but I suspect not.
I know that LinuxPPC will not run a 68k Mac. :-}

>What are OpenBSD and NetBSD and Apple's A/UX?
>

OpenBSD and NetBSD and Apple's A/UX are all various "flavours" of UNIX.

>I have a 660, a 605, a 7100 and a 9500/200
>with 416 RAM.
>
>Any musings and advice, oh more experienced one? :-)
>
>Thanks,
>Terry
>
>
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Re: OS Help!

2003-11-03 Thread Sque 
Terry Graham wrote:

At 2:22 AM -0500 11/3/03, Scott Granlund wrote:

I've been running 9.2.1 on my 8500 and it's been just a little nicer for
me. I think the OpenGL is a newer version and it runs the video just a
little smoother. Starts up quite a bit faster too. Really stable also, I
leave the thing on for months sometimes.


Hi Scott, Did you mean 'nicer' than 9.1?
Do a search for all the bugs in upgrading a biege 604 to 9.2.x and see if its 
worth it. You got to hand it to crapple for pulling the plug on the classic OS

What is the OpenGL architecture exactly?  Is it like the computer's way of
handling graphics and video and what are the counterparts that it replaces. .
. GXGraphics? Quickdraw? etc.
OpenGL is a video standard, mainly used for gaming ect where your examples arn't.

If you're interested in experiments, I believe there is a version of Linux
that runs fairly well on the 950. Neither OpenBSD or NetBSD will run on it
(rats!) but Apple's A/UX will (3.1.1) and it's fairly interesting. It runs
System 7.0.1 and Unix, side by side. Plenty of downloads still out there.
I have Linux 6.1 redhat and LinuxPPC 1999. . . on CD but I've never tried
them.
What are OpenBSD and NetBSD and Apple's A/UX?
Old rubbish for the main. Linux ppc Q4 is niceish and YDL is ok

I have a 660, a 605, a 7100 and a 9500/200 with 416 RAM.

Any musings and advice, oh more experienced one? :-)
MDK9.1 ppc, debain for the low end, you get colour. :)
Oh I'm sorry, I only just stopped laughing at using 9.x as a router on a 
7100/66. I guess the answer "because" is enough. :) Mean while I use a 68k and 
ipnr to do the same job. :)



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Re: OS Help!

2003-11-03 Thread Terry Graham 
At 2:22 AM -0500 11/3/03, Scott Granlund wrote:
>
>I've been running 9.2.1 on my 8500 and it's been just a little nicer for me. I think 
>the OpenGL is a newer version and it runs the video just a little smoother. Starts up 
>quite a bit faster too. Really stable also, I leave the thing on for months sometimes.

Hi Scott,
Did you mean 'nicer' than 9.1?

What is the OpenGL architecture exactly?  Is it like the computer's way of handling
graphics and video and what are the counterparts that it replaces. . . GXGraphics?
Quickdraw? etc. 

>If you're interested in experiments, I believe there is a version of Linux that runs 
>fairly well on the 950. Neither OpenBSD or NetBSD will run on it (rats!) but Apple's 
>A/UX will (3.1.1) and it's fairly interesting. It runs System 7.0.1 and Unix, side by 
>side. Plenty of downloads still out there.


I have Linux 6.1 redhat
and LinuxPPC 1999. . . on CD but I've never tried them.

What are OpenBSD and NetBSD and Apple's A/UX?

I have a 660, a 605, a 7100 and a 9500/200 
with 416 RAM. 

Any musings and advice, oh more experienced one? :-)

Thanks,
Terry


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Re: Mac OS 9.2 or later?

2003-11-03 Thread Denny Davis 
At 6:57 PM + on 11/2/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wittily wrote:


>Can I upgrade to Mac OS 9.2 or later on my Quadra 950? Please reply to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
NO! OS 8.1 is the most recent Mac OS that will run on a Quadra.
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Re: OS Help!

2003-11-03 Thread Scott Granlund 

>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Is there a maximum version that my Quadra 950 can be upgraded to?

> Unaccelerated 68k tops out at OS8.1.

The 950 has pretty good video. I've noticed that System 7.* is quite snappy. OS 8.1 is 
nice and stable but the user interface is noticeably more lugubrious. It's what I run 
mostly though. If you want the snappiest feel you might try System 7.5.5 or 7.6.1. 
7.0.1 is quick but sure is primitive. OS 8.1 may allow you run a greater selection of 
apps.

> With a ppc upgrade you can take it to 8.6, maybe more but 9.x bloat will limit 
> the usefulness of the machine. A 601 upgrade will run 8.6 just as well as it 
> runs 8.1

I just installed a PPC 601 card into my 950 and may report back if I have time to 
experiment sometime soon. 

> I was wondering about that myself, as I just installed 8.6 on a 7100/66
> (601).  I wondered if 8.1 would be any faster.
> Which OS you choose is very relative to your hard drive space and memory
> overhead, of course.
> 9.1 requires 64MB of RAM
> 8.6 requires 24MB of RAM  (190 - 250 MB Disk Space)
> 8.1 requires 12MB of RAM  (125 MB - 200)

I've 9.1 installed on my 7100/66 "router box" and it's just to slow on that machine 
for my tastes. I believe I have 104M RAM. For routing it's fine but the user interface 
is "goopy". I'd think the same would be true for an accelerated 950.

> I use 9.1 on my 9500 and could choose to use 9.2.1 as well but prefer 9.1.

I've been running 9.2.1 on my 8500 and it's been just a little nicer for me. I think 
the OpenGL is a newer version and it runs the video just a little smoother. Starts up 
quite a bit faster too. Really stable also, I leave the thing on for months sometimes.

If you're interested in experiments, I believe there is a version of Linux that runs 
fairly well on the 950. Neither OpenBSD or NetBSD will run on it (rats!) but Apple's 
A/UX will (3.1.1) and it's fairly interesting. It runs System 7.0.1 and Unix, side by 
side. Plenty of downloads still out there.

Enjoy,
Scott

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