Re: [q] [q]

[Russ Gibson]

Joan Ryssin-Anthony wrote:
> Hi there,
> i just subscribed to this list so hope I'm doing this 
> correctly.  I came
> upon this site while trying to research Quadra 605's.  I have 
> one sitting in
> my house that I need to get rid of.  Is there any market for 
> them, and if
> so, how could I go about selling it? I have no idea what it 
> might be worth.
> I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area (Walnut Creek).
> Any advice is greatly appreciated.
> Thank you,
> Joan

There is another list called "Swap List" that is just for that kind of
thing.  Check it out at http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html.

I've had good results from it, both selling and buying.

--> Russ


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Re: [q] adb keyboard

[Russ Gibson]

Yes.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Quadlist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Torkill Lademoe
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 4:19 AM
> To: Quadlist
> Subject: [q] adb keyboard
> 
> 
> hi there
> this is my first time
> :)
> is the "APPLE MACINTOSH ADB EXTENDED KEYBOARD II"
> compatible with an Quadra 660dv??
> 
> Torkill


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Re: [q] 575 and 8.1

[Russ Gibson]

Michael Day wrote:
> Russyou need more RAM...a 32mb SIMM would help. On older 
> Macs, the "c"
> key on boot does'nt work . Try *Apple-Option-Shift-Delete* 
> instead. Mikie

The combination did it (more RAM and a-o-s-d).

Thanks!

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[q] 575 and 8.1

[Russ Gibson]

Anybody have an idea why a 575 won't boot a MacOS 8.1 CD?

When I hold the C key down, it sees the disc, spins it for a few seconds,
then ejects it and boots from the internal hard disk.

The internal hard disk has 7.1P6 on it, and I want to upgrade to the last
version it can use, which is supposedly 8.1.

If I insert the CD, and launch the "Upgrade to MacOS 8.1" or "Install MacOS
8.1" items, they come up and say "This program cannot run on your computer.
See the documentation for more information".  The docs, of course, say
nothing about a 575.

Any ideas?  It has 12 MB of RAM, does 8.1 require more?  I didn't see
anything in the docs that said that...

Thanks!

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Re: [q] Ripped off by eBay seller. WGS 60 logic board

[Russ Gibson]

> Sque wrote:
> 
> Sorry Russ, I did mean Robert.

No problem, I figured.

You are correct in that I was just trying to illustrate that they don't ID
as WGS's even when they are.  Your explanation was better though, as I left
out the rest...

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Re: [q] Ripped off by eBay seller. WGS 60 logic board

[Russ Gibson]

> robert balms wrote:
> > I was recently ripped off by a ebay seller and am currently 
> in arguments 
> > with him
> > 
> > I bought what was said to be a logic board from a WGS 60
> > 
> > When it arrived it is a logic board from a Quadra 610
> > 
> > It boots into MacOS and identifies itself as a Quadra 610. 
> Also, it has 
> > the weaker LC68040 CPU
> > 
> > He is arguing these are the same thing but they are not. I need 
> > verification from other user's that their WGS60 identifies not as a 
> > Quadra 610, and must have the full 68040 CPU.
> > 
> > Thank you
> > RB
> 
> They are more or less the same, the 610 generally has a full 040, the 
> early models having the LC68040, both at 25mhz.
> 
> The WGS 60 also carried the LC68040 in earlier models. CPU speed at 
> either 20 or 25mhz. Later models carried the full 040, meaning 
> intergrated FPU.
> 
> Apart from the markings they are the same board with a choice 
> of cpu's.
> 
> I dont know what the WGS will class itself as.

My 9650 WGS identifies itself as a 9600, not as a 9650 WGS, but I am certain
it is a WGS.

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Re: [q] Mac LC580

[Russ Gibson]

Jim Foster wrote:
> > Is there a startup disk for a Mac like there was for 
> Windows 9X and ME?
> > I would like to put it in and be able to format these disks 
> and start 
> > all
> > over again.
> 
> Our MUG has done a similar thing with a number of Performa 
> 580 and 580 
> CD models.
> 
> We installed OS 7.5.5 because, as you say, that was the last OS that 
> was in the pulbic domain. Apple made the 7.5.5 package available as a 
> CD-ROM installer as well as a package of something like 14 HD 
> diskettes. This was a number of years ago and I don't know if it is 
> still available from Apple or not. I am in Canada and would 
> have bought 
> mine through Apple Canada back before there was such a thing as the 
> Online Apple Store.
> 
> In any event, the package really boils down to a 7.5.3 
> Installer and a 
> 7.5.5 updater, as I recall. There is a 7.5.3 Disk Tools 
> diskette which 
> could be used to boot the Mac and wipe an internal hard drive clean.
> 
> I would think all this would be available somewhere in the depths of 
> the Apple web site, depending upon your patience to go looking for it 
> or someone else supplying a URL.

There is a link from lowendmac.com - just look under "OS Downloads" on the
right side of the header.

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Re: [q] Mac LC580

[Russ Gibson]

Tom M Abel wrote:
> Here is your Mac deprived and humble doctor again.  I have 16 
> Mac LC580's
> some of which the hard drives are blank or don't register at 
> all.  Some,
> from various schools, has administrator passwords which stop 
> me dead in
> my tracks.  I give these away to disabled and homebound 
> people and have
> given away over 25 computers here in my hometown.
> 
> Is there a startup disk for a Mac like there was for Windows 
> 9X and ME? 
> I would like to put it in and be able to format these disks 
> and start all
> over again.  Since they won't take OS 7.6, I plan on 
> downloading OS 7.5
> since it is public domain.  Should I see if there is a 7.5 
> setup or, if I
> put it on CD, if that would open things up to format and load?
> 
> Thanks.  I have orders for six of these and so far, I only 
> have two ready
> to go.

You can download the MacOS 7.5 set from Apple, then use it to create
floppies, then use the Tools floppy to boot with, which will allow you to
setup the internal hard disk.

If you can't get this to work (I haven't tried it from the free MacOS 7.5
stuff), I can send you a disk image of that floppy (since its now free,
there should be no reason I can't legally do that?).

--> Russ


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Re: [q] Quadra 640 DOS

[Russ Gibson]

Yes, but...

I'm saying this from a purely theoretical standpoint:  If you are using any
version of Window's on it, you can use the included Sound Recorder
application to do it.  If you are running in DOS mode, you'll need to get a
copy of the SoundBlaster 16 utilities, or a shareware/freeware DOS program
to do it.

Now, whether its easy to do is another thing entirely.  I'm not familiar
with the setup, so I don't know what's going to be involved in getting this
to work.  If there are instructions somewhere for installing Windows, even
3.x if that's all it'll support, I'd think that'd be the easiest way.

Somebody familiar with DOS based sound sampling may have another opinion.
Its been way to many years since I've done it to remember.

I have original SoundBlaster 16 floppies or CD somewhere I can look for if
you can't get anything else to work (it has the DOS utilities I refer to
above).

--> Russ

> -Original Message-
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> Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 10:57 AM
> To: Quadlist
> Subject: [q] Quadra 640 DOS
> 
> 
> I have a technical question about this computer.  It has a built in
> Soundblaster 16, so I assume that it can do 16-bit audio in 
> its PC mode.
> I was wondering if there was anyway to digitized audio at 
> 16-bit in the PC
> mode?
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [q] Odd 68040 in an LC580

[Russ Gibson]

> Not that it really means anything, but my curiosity dragged me to 
> question what brought it about!

I'd place my bet on it being the same as a standard 68LC040, but Motorola
probably either did a large run of these types and had to unload them (i.e.
misread the market), or they forced Apple to switch (because it cost less to
manufacture?), but Apple had the boards made with the original sockets and
had to adapt.

I've seen this on other systems before:  My old Apple IIgs had a TransWarpGS
in it that contained a PLCC 65816, even though the IIgs motherboard
contained a DIP 65816.

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Re: [q]best games for Quads (was best chess

[Russ Gibson]

> Dont forget MYST!

I've done my best to, but folks keep bringing it back up! :-)

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Re: [q]Apple ColorSync 17 on Quadra 950?

[Russ Gibson]

Christopher Kolp wrote:
> However, I'm yet to have it work and wonder if it's a software issue? 
> When it first arrived,
> I plugged it into the machine and turned it on. Nothing. After a few 
> minutes, the screen
> appeared and looked great! Then a few minutes later, nothing. Black 
> screen.

Somebody over on the PCI list mentioned something about software you can get
from Apple that resets the internal monitor settings.  You may want to do a
quick search on the PCI list.

I've never done it myself, so I know nothing more than that somebody said
its possible, and somebody else reported that it fixed their problem, which
yours sounds similar too.

How's that for non-committal help? :-)

--> Russ


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[q]Re: Hard drive formatting / partition sizes

[Russ Gibson]

> My previous reply should have gone further, but you'll 
> understand that 
> I'm going from memory now. My understanding is that, in order to run 
> 8.1, the OS has to be installed on to an HFS+
> formatted drive - end of story. If your machine can't start 
> up from an 
> HFS+ drive, then you can't run 8.1 - OS 8 is possibly as far 
> as you can 
> go, and I'd still recommend 7.6.1 as being the way forward 
> for you. The 
> huge hard drive - in terms of OS 7 and 8 - is perhaps also adding to 
> your problems. I don't know much about that side of things - perhaps 
> others on the list can clarify how you should proceed regarding 
> formatting/partitioning.

I got up this morning and was going to try a smaller partition, reverting
back to 7.6, etc., but, alas, its all a moot point now as I am getting a sad
Mac.  I let the thing sit on a ? Mac for about 3 hours (I was busy...), and
then it just all of the sudden changed to a sad Mac.  Now it does it just
after initializing the video - it's the first Mac icon I see.

In light of the fact that I've been able to purchase a 7600 MB, a complete
working 7200/120, and a 8600 system for less than $200, I think I'm just
going to part this thing out (if there is anything of any value in it)(I
paid about $2,000 for the 636CD originally!).

Thanks for everybody's help!

--> Russ


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[q]Re: Performa 636 & MacOS 8.1

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> On Behalf Of Paul Stamsen
> But did you try the option to partition the bigger drive?  I 
> always did that with my P630. I believe the articles pretty 
> much supported smaller partitions.

That didn't occur to me;  I'll give it a try next.

>  What other diagnostics have you tried? Check all 
> connections, and the leetle tiny PRAM battery?

I tried the pram zap and rebuild desktop to no avail.  When I booted up this
morning, I got the invalid clock date, so my PRAM battery is dead.  Gotta go
find one of those first.  I am beginning to wonder if this machine is worth
all this...

Thank you very much!

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[q]Performa 636 & MacOS 8.1

[Russ Gibson]

Hi all.

I have a Performa 636 who's hard disk failed (finally).  It had OS 7.5.3 on
it.  I replaced it with the smallest IDE drive I had - a 13 GB Quantum
Fireball, but OS 7.5.x wouldn't initialize the drive successfully.

I just received a copy of MacOS 8.1, and I booted the CD and initialized the
drive and installed 8.1 onto a single standard 13 GB partition (the notes on
the CD say that 68k based Mac's can't start from a HFS+ partition).

When I remove the CD and reboot, I get a ? Mac - it can't find anything to
boot from.  Does anybody have any ideas what I am doing wrong, or can point
me in the direction of what to do?

Thank you!

--> Russ


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