Re: [q] [PCI] Anti-spam services and Low End Mac lists

2004-11-18 Thread pjspop 
At 11:01 -0500 11/18/04, Dan Knight wrote:
I just received an email from a subscriber who got a challenge and
response email from the Cashette anti-spam service. Such services work
by blocking email from any address not on the user's white list - which
means anyone posting to the list.

Our lists are already spam-proofed, so please don't use a challenge and
response anti-spam system on the address you use to subscribe to this
list. Here's our official policy on these services:

What about anti-spam services?

We already take the steps necessary to keep spam off our lists. Whatever
filtering you do with your email software and your email service is up to
you.

That said, we take a dim view of anti-spam services such as Spam Arrest
that require the sender of a message to respond to a message from the
anti-spam service before allowing the recipient to receive the posting.
Such a service inconveniences anyone who posts to the list and is
unnecessary.

These are all closed lists, so there is no spam. Only those who have
requested a subscription and confirmed their subscription are allowed to
post. If that is not good enough for you, please don't inconvenience our
members by asking them to jump through hoops to keep your mailbox spam
free.

Any subscriber using this kind of anti-spam service will receive one
warning. If the situation is not resolved quickly, the subscriber will be
banned. The burden should be on the spammers, not innocent list members.

Remember, one warning.

I ask that anyone posting to the list who receives a challenge and
response email forward it to me with anti-spam in the subject line.

Thanks!

Dan the listmom

As the ListMom noted (above)  a few members on our lists are using
filtering services like cashette.com.

This is not allowed on the QuadList or the PCI-PowerMacs list.
Please remove the filtering service or unsub immediately.

Secondly, if you are going to be out of office you must unsub from the list.

With the holidays fast approaching this is advance warning that out of office
auto-reply services will result in banishment.

Then you will have to explain yourself before re-admittance to the list.

We are not going to tolerate all the out of office
messages during the holidays as in the past.

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Re: [q] [PCI] Anti-spam services and Low End Mac lists

2004-11-18 Thread Philip Stortz 
ok, i'll mention this here as well

i would personally use spamcop.net if i were concerned.  they are cheap and use 
a very good set of
methods that do not involve challenges or silly text scanning.  i use them to 
report spam and a
friend uses their filtering service, he's delighted with it.  i have no 
connection with them other
than being very, very happy with their reporting service which i use regularly 
(and such reporting
does help reduce spam, you tend to be taken off the spam list since they really 
don't want to be
reported to their isp, including those that host their site!).  i've found all 
other filtering to
be
nothing more than a pain that makes the problem worse.  i'll refrain from cross 
posting this
unless
the list mom thinks it's ok in this case, cross posting is another small 
annoyance with a few list
members so i won't do it myself.

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 As the ListMom noted (above)  a few members on our lists are using
 filtering services like cashette.com.
 
 This is not allowed on the QuadList or the PCI-PowerMacs list.
 Please remove the filtering service or unsub immediately.
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